Adg 3Rd Edition: Roops
Adg 3Rd Edition: Roops
Adg 3Rd Edition: Roops
FAQ
AdG 3rd Edition
This document compile clarifications about certain rules and answers some of the questions frequently
asked by the players. To facilitate the search, the questions and answers follow the order in which the
chapters have been written. New points from the previous FAQ are highlighted in yellow. You can find
more explanations and examples online in Rules section.
TROOPS
+1 Bonus against mounted
Q : Does a bowmen, if attacked from the flank by a mounted, keep its bonus against mounted ?
A : No. This specific bonus must be considered as the Support capability, with the same restrictions :
The bonus is valid only for the 1st turn if the unit is charged from the front.
The bonus not valid if the unit simply conforms.
The bonus is cancelled if the unit is contacted in the flank, even by a Li.
Medium spearmen
Q : When receiving a charge from a mounted, does a medium spearmen unit get the impact ability ?
A :If the mounted is not Impact, then yes. If the mounted is also impact, then the medium spearmen
Impact bonus is cancelled, as p 17.
Note : Only Heavy spearmen and pikemen keep their Impact against Impact mounted.
Examples :
A medium spearmen is charged by a Cv:
Medium spearmen = 1 + 1 Impact = +2
Cv = 1 + 1 bonus vs MI = +2
A medium spearmen is charged by an Impact Cv:
Medium spearmen = 1 + 0 (no Impact) =+1
Impact Cv = 1 + 0 (Impact cancelled by spearmen) =+1
Q : Is the +1 bonus in the 1st round of the non impact Cv vs Mi/LMi still valid if the unit is attacked in the flank ?
Or if the unit conforms after a melee ?
A : No. Like the Impact capability, it is valid only from the front, and during the charge. Therefore, the
bonus cant be used if the Cv is attacked from the flank, or if it conforms after a melee.
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2HW ability
Q : If a unit with 2HW attacks a spearmen unit with the Support capability, in which order must we resolve the
effects of the capabilities ?
A : We apply first the effects of the 2HW, then Support (like the Armour effect).
Q : Does the 2HW ability just cancel the effect of Armour and Heavy Armour abilities ?
A : The factors practically will have that effect as cancelling the armour effet. Nevertheless, you need to
apply all the factors as listed p16.
COMMAND
Commanders leak
Q : Does a general, either included or attached to a unit, counts towards demoralisation, should he flee with the
unit and then leave the table ?
A : No. The corps become leaderless but hes not counted as a lost general.
MOUVEMENTS
Wheeling
Q : Should a group have less units on the 1st line than on the other ones behind, can it wheel ?If so, then how do we
proceed ?
A : YES, such a group can wheel. The widest line is considered as the groups width. Wheeling is then
mesured using this width, and not the one from the 1st line. No unit can move further than its allowed
mouvement distance.
Q : A group with a 2UD mouvement makes a 2UD wheel from one of its corners, the other one not moving. In the
same mouvement, can the 2nd corner also wheel 2UD, each corner having moved 2UD ?
A : NO. If a group does a wheel, its limited by its maximum mouvement allowance. The move ends
after the 1st 2UD wheel.
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Q : Considering a group of impetuous cavalry and impetuous knights. If the group make a 3UD move, do we have
to pay 1 or 2 CPs ?
A : 2 CPs because the cavalry hasnt moved his full mouvement allowance.
Q : A knight is in the ZOC of an elephant on its rear. How can he get away ?
A : The only way is to fall back on its rear, which is impossible, because it would bring it closer to the
enemy. Therefore, it must first make a turn to face the elephant. In the following turn, if it wasnt
charged, it will be able to leave the ZOC.
SPECIAL MOVEMENTS
Charge
Q : Can we make a or turn, then a wheel, just before charging ?
A : Yes we can, but only at the beginning of the charge.
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Uncontrolled charge
Q : D is an impetuous knight making an uncontrolled
charge. How to resolve this particular case ?
Q : A heavy Impetuous chariot has a target 2UDs from its flank, but, since it must do a turn (costing 2UDs), it
wont be able to contact the target. What must we consider ? The distance in a straight line, or the distance the unit
can make in one move ?
A : For a unit to make an uncontrolled charge, it must be able to reach the target with a normal charge
move. In that case, there is no uncontrolled charge.
Q : Page 42, in the example, the sentence for unit F seems not correct.
A : Yes, there is an error here : unit F doesnt move as it cannot reach an enemy.
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Interpenetration
Q : If a group of units interpenetrate partially friendly units, is adjusting applicable to every unit in the group or
only those which interpenetrate ?
A : Only the units passing through friends, even partially, can be adjusted. So, a group could end up
fractionned after an interpenetration.
RALLYING
Q : Can an included general use his bonus to help rally an adjacent unit ?
A : No.
Q : If a unit is contacted in the flank by a pursuing enemy unit, and then must conform, ca nit rally ?
A : Yes, the unit will conform at the end of the melee phase, and can rally.
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SHOOTING
Bowmen in column
Q : When shooting, can a bowmen unit (LMI) in column support another one if front of it ?
A : No, because the second unit has no clear line of sight.
Shooting modificators
Q : If a bowmen shoot at a foot knight, with a crossbow Li in support, is the armour value of the target reduced to 1
because of the crossbow ? Does the -1 for Li shooting apply ?
A : No, and no. You only use the modifiers relating to the main shooting unit.
MELEE
Contact restrictions for bowmen
Q : We have a group of 2 bowmen, and an elephant in between. Facing them, 2 enemy HI. How do we charge them
with the elephant and the bowmen ?
A : You have to declare 2 charges :
1- The elephant charge a HI, with a bowmen in support.
2- Next, the 2nd bowmen on the 2nd Hi
Nota : If the units are 1UD or less from the enemy, the charges can be spontaneous and therefore free.
Furious charge
Q : A Cv, Lh or Kn with Impact has the furious charge against all foot. But a spearmen (either Mi or Hi)
cancels the impact if receiving the charge. In that case, is the Furious charge also cancelled ?
A : No. The Furious charge is still valid, even if the Impact is cancelled.
Q : The Armour/Heay Armour capability doesnt count during the first round if the opponent has the Furious
charge. What happens if the opponent with the Furious charge also has Armour and loses the melee ?
A : Then, the opponents Armour counts towards the final result, because its only the target of the
charge that doesnt get it for the first round.
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Q : A Cv attacks a group of Lh from the flank and they dont evade. If the 1st Lh is destroyed, how does the 2 nd one
conform ?
A : If the Cv attacks Lh n1 from the flank, Lh n2 is also touched. If Lh n1 is destroyed, then it
conforms to the Cv before routing. Therefore, it pushes Lh n2 out of the Cvs ZOC. That way, we avoid
the problems linked to variable bases depths (3 or 4cm). Cv and Lh n2 are now in contact corner-to-
corner.
Q: We have a group of 3 Cv in column. Is it possible to charge only the front corner of the 2nd Cv? How to
conform units ?
A: No, you cannot charge a unit in this way. The only permitted charge against a unit in a column
(except the head unit) is a flank charge on the column.
Conforming examples
It is the turn of A,B and C, belongong to the same
army.Cest le tour de A, B et C qui sont du mme
camp.
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Example :
A and B1 are flank against flank as indicated. It is the
turn for unit A. Unit A cannot conform on the flank of
B1 or B2 as there is not enough space. Therefore unit
A can make quarter-turn on the right and then
conform to align on the front edge of B1 if it is
impossible to conform on the flank.
Time of conformation
Q : When can the units conform ?
A : Conformation can happen in 3 cases :
Just after a charge, to align with the enemy.
Just after a melee if a unit routs an opponent on its front and there is another opponent whose front
is in contact with the units flank or rear (as per p54). The conformation then replaces the pursuit.
In the players turn mouvement phase, to align with an opponent already in contact (flank against
flank, or corner against corner for instance). This is detailed on p55 (Conforming after a melee). The
conformation then replaces the charge, which cant take place because the units are already in
contact.
Flank attack
Q : If a unit is attacked in the flank/rear by a light unit, does it still lose its capabilities, as per page 57 ?
A : Yes.
Impetuous conforming
Q : A unit of Impetuous swordsmen is in flank to flank contact with an enemy spearmen unit. In their turn , what
can the swordsmen do ?
A : The swordsmen being impetuous, they must conform for free to enter the melee with the spearmen
on their flank, or charge another unit in range. Any different action will cost 3 CPs. Should they
conform, they wont get get their impact nor the Furious charge.
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Group conforming
Q : If a group is in contact corner-to-corner with an enemy, with just the rightmost unit in contact corner-to-
corner. This unit can conform with a slide to enter the melee. Can the whole group conform too, or only the unit
which contacts the enemy ?
A : The whole group can conform (cf p53, 2nd paragraph)
Multiples opponents
Q : if a unit is in melee on its front with an enemy, and is then charged from the flank, i twill lose 1 cohesion point.
What happens if during the same pahse, the enemy breaks contact ? Does the unit still lose 1 CP ?
A : Yes, the cohesion loss is instantaneous (cf p59).
Q : Is turning from side-to-side edge contact to front edge against side edge in multiple opponents (p 59),
qualifies as new enemy and therefore inflicts a cohesion loss if someone else is in contact with front ?
A : Yes
Q : If a unit which is in contact with its front against the flank of an enemy is contacted on the flank by
another enemy, does it suffer a cohesion loss ?
A : Yes. As indicated page 50, 2nd bullet, the unit is considered in melee and so suffers a cohesion loss as
stated page 59. The unit will conform to the new enemy as it is not in frontal mlee against the first
enemy unit.
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Q : When the camp has been sacked and the unit is still busy pillaging it, is it still considered as being in melee ?
A : Yes, with all the implied consequences. If it is attacked, it will be taken from the rear/flank it cant
evade. Should it survive the charge, it would stop pillaging the camp, and conform.
Flanked by a WWg
Q : If a unit is in melee with an enemy, and at the same time in contact on its flank/rear by a WWg, does it lose a
cohesion point ? Will it fight being considered as attacked from the flank/rear ?
A : It wont lose any cohesion because the WWg cant charge. However, it will fight as if attacked from
the flank (see effects on p56 and 57), because every side of a WWg is to be treated as a front face.
Q : How unit can attack from a river if the enemy is not parallel to the river border ?
A : The unit in the river charge and conform as normal.
Q : When an impetuous unit must do a compulsory pursuit, what is the minimal pursuit distance ?
A : impetuous units must pursue as far as possible, ie 1UD, or until they contact a new enemy.
Restrictions on pursuit on p62 still apply.
Destruction of LI
The rule page 52 is not very clear. Add the following points :
A heavy unit already in melee cannot destroy LI by simple contact.
If an LI unit is contacted in clear terrain by a heavy unit, the attacker must conform. The LI is then
automatically destroyed during the melee phase.
A heavy unit that contacts several LI can destroy only one LI during the melee phase and possibly
another one in the pursuit phase. Other LI contacted are moved away by a UD to break contact.
Q : Can a LI unit support in the open by contacting the corner or the flank of a heavy unit ?
A : Yes, the LI is not destroyed in this case as the ennemy unit is already in melee.
Q : A LI unit is in melee against an elephant. If a MI unit comes to support the elephant by contacting LI
corner-to-corner, is the LI destroyed ? Same question if the MI charge the LI on the flank.
A : No, the LI is not destroyed as it is in melee with the elephant, not with the MI unit.Nevertheless, if MI
charge LI on the flank, MI enters in melee with LI. LI cannot evade in this case and it is destroyed.
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Q : On p62 : If a pursuing unit of LMI, MI, HI, Cv or Kn contacts a light infantry unit, the light infantry unit is
immediately eliminated as an evade move is not permitted. Is this true if the light infantry is in a terrain ?
A : No, LI is destroyed only in open terrain (cf. page 52).
SETTING UP
Placing terrain.
Misprint. You must replace the third bullet with : Defender places the compulsary element.
Q : When we get a dry riverbed, what are the effects on shooting, melee and mouvmeent ?
A : A dry riverbed can be crossed as open terrain in any direction. It is possible to shoot from a dried up
river without minuses. Units defending the bank still retain their +1 bonus if the opponenet is partially
in the riverbed.
Village placing
Q : What is the use of the placing die for the village ? What happens if we also have a river/coast line ?
A : The player chooses a flank sector to place the village, the die is used only to know the position of the
village from the plyaers long edge :
1 to 4 : the player must place the village on the long edge in the chosen sector.
5 and 6, it will be placed more than 2 UD from any edge.
Nota : For a river/coast line, we roll the die, but the village will be placed next to the river/coast line.
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Q : In the 100 points game, can the defending player deploy a second ambush markers if the general is a
Strategist ?
A : No. In that game, there is only one marker for the defending player.
Q : Is a corps completely in ambush is considered as being on table ? Can we deploy it before the other two corps ?
A : No. We must first deploy the corps whose units are in part or completely visible on the table. Once
all the units are deployed on the table, we can say that our deployment is over. The player can say that
some of his units are not visible, without telling the opponenet whether they are in ambush or in a flank
march.
OPTIONNAL RULES
Big battles
Q : Can you clarify the command point ratings of armies do not change for 300 or 400 point games ?
A : Command points are the same in 200, 300 or 400 pts.
Dmoralisation rules
Q : When a unit is routed, how the loss is calculated ?
A : There is a mistake in the rule. The value of the unit is doubled when it is routed. For example a
routed elite knight unit counts as 4 losses.
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ARMY LISTS
Allies included in the lists
Q : What does an ally included in the list mean ?
A : Most of the time, an ally comes from another list. However, sometimes the ally doesnt a propoer list.
The list of available unit sis then mentionned in the army list under the main list. To see some examples :
lists number 36, 37, 49, 62, 64, 67, 72, 78.
41 - Early Successors
Alliance between Lysimachos and Seleucos.
Misprint : You can have 2-10 pikemen but only two Elite.
53 Republican Romans
Q : Must the raw legions have the armour if the Hastati have them ?
A : Yes. The choice for the armour must be applied to the whole army.
75 Early Arab
Q : What are the conditions for an allied command to be considered as Bedouin Tribe ?
A : All allied corps from this list can be considered as Bedouin Tribe.
101 Romano-British
Misprint : Welsh allies is after 580.
142 - Lombard
Misprint about the followers : Fantassins moyens impetueux means Impetuous medium swordsmen.
178 Anglo-Irish
Irish allies : before 1300 (list #151 Feudal Irish) ; after 1300 (list #223 Medieval Irish)
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220 - Swiss
Misprint. Seulement jusquen 1400 means Only up to 1400 .
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