Concerning The Count of Saint Germain

Concerning the Count of SaintGermain
Secret Societies
29 Nov, 2013
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Originally Published at Conspiracy Archive on 2009/01/21
Design sketch of the alchemical laboratory at the estate of Landgrave Karl von Hessen
Kassel
In an email Monday, L.G. wrote:
Ive been searching for materials about the Illuminati (I read yesterday some of your
notes on May Day and the Illuminati quite interesting and helpful!) and there is one
historical personage that keeps popping up in my searches: Saint Germain, the so-called
Wonderman of Europe. I dont know if he was an illuminatus, but his persistent
connections to May 1st in the New Age Movement are very interesting. According to
some sources, he ascended on May 1st 1684, and was crowned as the new Chohan
(Planetary Lord) on May 1st 1954. I know these are just New Age inventions, with no
historical value, but anyway the choice of that day is curious, to say the least.
While reading Manly P. Halls The Secret Destiny of America, I noticed he mentioned
a person not named in the book who apparently influenced the creation of the
american flag and called himself The Professor. What I wanted to know is if you
know, from your own studies, if this man had anything to do with the well-known
european aristocrat who called himself the Count of Saint Germain. If there was a
connection, and if there was any possibility for him to have been a member of the
Bavarian Illuminati, maybe this could explain the connection between the New Age
Ascended Master Saint Germain and the day of the foundation of the Bavarian
Illuminati.
By the way, as Im talking about Saint Germain and the New Age Movement, maybe
youll find curious the fact that certain new age circles working with this ascended
master use a kind of violet disc with a dot in the middle as a tool for spiritual
exercises. You can see it here (the fourth from above):
http://www.naveluz.arq.br/download.htm
This, amazingly, reminds me of the point within a circle used by the Illuminati to
designate their Order. What do you think about all this?
Thanks for your time and attention.
The short answer, is no; Saint Germain wasnt a member of the Illuminati. His name
doesnt appear on any authentic membership list, nor would you expect to find it. Quite
the opposite.
Regarding Freemasonry and other secret societies during the 18th Century, those of a
mystical/occultist bent usually joined the Golden and Rosy Cross, Strict Observance or
the Illumins in France and Northern Europe (embracing the teachings of Pasqually,
Saint-Martin, Pernety, and Swedenborg) or all of the above. The die-hard rationalists,
whose foundation was in philosophy rather than Pietism or mysticism or alchemy, were
recruited into the Bavarian Illuminati. That being said, there was certainly overlap, but
the two camps were at odds, even antagonistic. Saint Germain was of the former group.
To the rationalists in the Illuminati, Saint-Germain indeed Cagliostro and the rest of
the mystical fabulists were the butt of the joke. If you were found to be sympathetic to
alchemy or Rosicrucianism, in most cases you were kicked out of the Order.
While contemplating whether to initiate Princes into the Order, a compromise was
reached. The noble would certainly be led to believe that he was ascending the ladder,
but instead of the normal discourse read to the initiate in the higher mysteries, that the
church and throne were to be dispensed with these were conveniently left out. Thus
the sovereigns good name could be used to recruit others demonstrating the grandeur
of the Order and the Prince or Duke, believing he was privy to the final secret, would,
in turn, work on behalf of his brethren.
Landgrave Karl von Hessen-Kassel was a close friend of Saint-Germains. He was one
of those Princes initiated into the Order, and it seems as though he had an agenda as
well to spy on its activities, keep it in check, and have full control over the initiates in
his territory. This power, Knigge provided to him; despite the fact that Karl was one of
the most accomplished occultists of his time (and being an initiate of more mystical
associations than most anyone else).
Prince Karl and Saint-Germain set up shop at his Louisenlund estate in what is now
Schleswig-Holstein. While conducting experiments at Karls alchemical laboratory (a
dark, cold, and dreary stone tower), Saint-Germain caught pneumonia and died on
February 27, 1784.
The simple fact is that Rosicrucian obsession with the myths surrounding St. Germain is
a ruse meant to fleece the credulous. That they use May 1st is perhaps due a desire to
insinuate a connection with Weishaupts Order. But there is none. The power and allure
of the very word Illuminati is considerable, is it not? Crowley, too, sought to conflate
various names throughout history and intimate that they belonged to one grand
authentic tradition. They have alternative histories whimsical and imprecise whose
purpose is to impress; indoctrinate; initiate; propagate.

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