Basic Scope Presentation - Probes PDF
Basic Scope Presentation - Probes PDF
Basic Scope Presentation - Probes PDF
Oscilloscopes
Probes
Agenda
Probe basics
Influence of probing the device under test
Choose the right probe (passive, active, current, differential)
Trigger and decode on serial busses like I2C,SPI,UART,LIN
Basics of mixed signal scopes
Using mixed signal scopes (cross trigger, measurements)
Q & A
Agenda
Probe basics
Influence of probing the device under test
Choose the right probe (passive, active, current, differential)
Trigger and decode on serial busses like I2C,SPI,UART,LIN
Basics of mixed signal scopes
Using mixed signal scopes (cross trigger, measurements)
Q & A
1
R
2fc
Z
1
R
2fc
Input Capacitance
Dominated
Input
Impedance
W
0
DC
Frequency
2 GHz
Agenda
Probe basics
Influence of probing the device under test
Choose the right probe (passive, active, current, differential)
Trigger and decode on serial busses like I2C,SPI,UART,LIN
Basics of mixed signal scopes
Using mixed signal scopes (cross trigger, measurements)
Q & A
Current Probe
Active device that measures the current in a signal
rather than the voltage
3 main types, transformer based, Hall effect devices
or combination transformer/Hall effect
Most modern clamp on current probes are
combination transformer/Hall effect
Scope
1 M
Probe
9 Mohm
Scope
50 ohm
Correct Compensation
Over compensated
Connect the probe to the desired input channel and set the channel coupling to 1
MOhm DC
Connect the probe tip to the CAL output on the front panel of the DSO
Adjust the LF compensation trimmer in the probe BNC box for best squarewave
response as shown in the middle trace above
High Resistance
Low capacitance
50 ohm
C1
Fixed Or selectable
attenuation
1:1, 10:1, 100:1 (typical)
Input capacitance
0.5 - 3 pF (typical)
Input resistance
2 k - 10 MOhms (typical)
Bandwidth
500 MHz to 7.5 GHz
(typical)
R2
PROBE
R1
R3
OUTPUT
VC C -
Attenuation = R2 / (R1+R2)
Input Resistance = (R1+R2)
Input Capacitance < 3 pF
Caution: Active probes have
limited input voltage range
Active or Passive?
Both passive probes and active probes have
strengths and weaknesses
Knowing when to use which probe will help
make accurate and reliable measurements
Passive probes are great for low frequency
measurements where high voltages may be
probed
Active transistor probes are better for
measurements which require the highest
bandwidth possible, typically 2 GHz or greater
Active FET probes are a great general
purpose probe for all frequencies from 10 kHz
to 2 GHz but are not designed for signals
above 8 12 V
HFP
ZS Probe
10 M
PP007
1 M
Impedance (W )
100 k
10 k
1 k
Transistor based active probes
100
10
Frequency (Hz)
Why Differential?
General purpose oscilloscopes can only measure
Ground Referenced voltages however not all
measurements are ground referenced
Consider power supply measurements where to test
points are referenced to each other and there is no
ground
Upper V measurement required
GS
B
Output
- 175 Volts
Scope Transformer or
Power Supply Stressed
vSIGNAL
Z CIRCUIT
vA - B
POWER
SUPPLY
SCOPE PROBE
vC - G
B
Z GROUND LEAD
OSCILLOSCOPE
POWER CORD
Z COMMON
iCOMMON
Z SCOPE GROUND
vCOMMON
Z POWER TO GROUND
IDEAL EARTH GROUND
A Minus B Method
Both A & B must be on screen.
This determines the maximum sensitivity the
oscilloscope can be set at.
Limited channel accuracy matching severely
limits the ability to Reject (Subtract) the
signal that is Common to both A & B.
Line
Voltage
1W
Shunt
Load Circuit
Scope remains
safely grounded
A B limitations
This technique will not work when the signal of
interest is much smaller than the common mode
Isolators
Double
Insulated
Probe
Line
Voltage
Conventional
Scope Front End
1W
Shunt
Load Circuit
Transformer or
optical isolation
Parasitic
Capacitance
Scope remains
safely grounded
Earth Ground
Consists of oscilloscope front end protected with insulation which drives a system based
on optical or transformer isolation
Limitations of Isolators
Unbalanced inputs
Parasitic capacitance
Low CMRR at high frequencies
+175 Volts
A
B
Output
Important Characteristics:
Common Mode Range
Common Mode Rejection Ratio
True Balanced Inputs
Load sees high Impedance
Lead parasitic effects cancel out !
- 175 Volts
Scope is Not
Overdriven
vSIGNAL A
ZSCOPE PROBE
ZCIRCUIT
vA - B
B
POWER
SUPPLY
DA1855
DIFFERENTIAL
AMPLIFIER
ZSCOPE PROBE
vA - B
OSCILLOSCOPE
POWER CORD
ZCOMMON
iCOMMON
ZSCOPE GND
vCOMMON
IDEAL EARTH GND
Scope and
Amplifier
Operate
SAFELY at
Ground
ZPOWER TO GND
High CMRR, Wide Common Mode Range,
Signal Gain, Offset, Low Noise and Fast
Overdrive Recovery Allow Minute Details of
the A - B Signal to be Seen
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CMRR Observations
In this particular measurement there is so
much common mode feed through that the
signal shape can be seen when using either
probe
The difference is that the high performance
amplifier feed through is 5 to 6 times less than
the high voltage differential probe
The 100,000:1 CMRR specification of the
amplifier helps maintain accurate
measurements in a variety of noisy scenarios
where common mode interface can corrupt
measurements
High Performance
Differential Amplifiers
start at higher CMRR,
up to 100,000:1 and can
be maintained across
wide frequency bands
DA1855A
CMRR
100,000
HV Differential probes
have good CMRR at DC
and low frequency but it
cannot be maintained
through the entire probe
bandwidth
10,000
1,000
10
100
1,000
10,000
Frequency (Hz)
100,000
1,000,000
10,000,000
Transformers
AC Current Transformers (CT)
AC Current Probes
Hall Devices
DC to Low Frequency AC
Disadvantages
TO SCOPE
Advantages
Precision transformers can be
very accurate
Low cost
RTERM
Disadvantages
Measures only AC
DC component moves
(lowers) the dynamic
operating range for
measuring AC components
Requires circuit to be broken
Inserts Impedance Into Circuit
Under Test
Disadvantages
May require access wire to
be added to circuit
Inserts Impedance Into
Circuit Under Test