Changes in The CornerHouse Interview Protocol

Changes in the CornerHouse Interview Protocol
by Judy Weigman, M.A., L.I.C.S.W.

CornerHouse developed a specific protocol for interviewing children about sexual abuse in
1989, and began teaching this protocol to multidisciplinary child abuse teams in 1990. This
protocol was and continues to be based on the research and practice of numerous professionals in
the field and our staffs interviewing experience. Over time, as new information has become
available, we have changed the protocol to reflect new knowledge. This article is intended to share
some of the changes we have made over the past six years. The list does not necessarily reflect all
of the changes we have made over time, but it does describe the most significant ones.
Drawing the Childs Face. Interviewers often make a brief drawing of the childs face at the
beginning of the interview as part of rapport building. When drawing a younger childs face,
the interviewer no longer asks the child to guess what the interviewer is drawing. Instead,
the interviewer may say, Im going to draw your face. The interviewer does not want to
condition the child to guess about anything in the interview. When the child is older than age
8, the interviewer usually gives the child the choice of whether s/he would like the face drawn.
For children over 10, the interviewer usually skips this and begins the interview with family
drawings.
Previously, after the childs face was drawn, the interviewer told the child s/he could take the
drawing home. It was suggested that this offering might be perceived as a bribe or an influence
to get the child to disclose something. Now the interviewer gives the face drawing to the child
at the end of the interview, along with the interviewers business card.
Drawing the Childs House. Interviewers no longer routinely draw the childs house as part
of rapport-building. Time is of the essence when interviewing children, and additional time
may be needed to cover the details of any abuse disclosed by the child. However, the childs
house may be drawn if it becomes relevant to disclosure.
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1997 Training Schedule

Child Sexual Abuse Forensic Interview Training for child protection workers, law
enforcement investigators, and prosecuting attorneys teaches a reliable, child friendly and
legally credible method for interviewing children about possible sexual abuse. Our January,
March, April and May sessions are full. Sessions for which there are still openings are:
Five days, Mon-Fri
February 3-7
September 8-12
October 6-10
Tuition: $850
November 3-7
December 8-12
Effective Intervention in Child Sexual Abuse: A Pre-Assessment Model, for

mandated reporters, teaches a brief, specific process for talking with a child about possible
sexual abuse. Offered in a full-day and half-day format. Both formats have similar topics and a
participant manual. The full day provides more depth of content and practice opportunities. Call
us about bringing this seminar to your organization or group for inservice training!
Orientation for interagency team members in Hennepin County is a three-hour session

that includes: a tour of CornerHouse, the interview protocol, videotaped interview, and a team
meeting demonstration. Other interested community members are welcome to attend the first half
of the orientation session that does not involve confidential information (about 1-1/2 hours).
There is no fee, but pre-registration is required.
Time: 8:30-11:30 a.m. Dates: February 18, April 29, June 3, and September 2
For more information or to register, contact Kristi Thomson at (612) 872-6225.
Winter, 1997
CORNERHOUSE STAFF
Interview, Team Services
and Training Program
Lori Holmes,
Training Specialist
Mary Hunt,
Program Assistant
Debbie Peterson,
Interview Specialist/Trainer
Anne Nuernberg,
Interview Specialist/Trainer
Diane Sharper, Cultural Support
Program Coordinator
Mary Annette Venier,
Program Director
Judy Weigman,
Clinical Supervisor
Physicians
Marjorie Hogan, M.D.
Julie Kummer, M.D.
Jud Reaney, M.D.
Linda Thompson, M.D.
Administration
Theresa Culpert,
Secretary-Receptionist
Carolyn Smith,
Administrative Assistant
Kristi Thomson,
Administrative Supervisor
Joci Tilsen,
Executive Director
Changes in the CornerHouse Interview Protocol

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Telling Children They Are Being Videotaped. Children who
have been sexually abused often feel tricked by the perpetrator.
Because CornerHouse doesnt want to add to a childs feeling
of being tricked, the interviewer routinely tells children 5 years
and older that the interview will be videotaped. For children
under 5, the parents or guardians are informed.
Instructing the Child. CornerHouse now uses a modified
approach to the cognitive interview, which was developed by
Karen Saywitz. The cognitive interview gives instructions at the
beginning of an interview and asks a child to practice
responding to various questions. Such instructions might
include statements like, If I ask you a question that you dont
understand, I want you to tell me, or, If I ask you the same
question twice, it doesnt mean that you gave the wrong answer
the first time. At CornerHouse, instead of giving these
instructions at the beginning of the interview, the interviewer
responds as the situation presents itself. For example, the first
time a child corrects the interviewer, the interviewer may say,
Thank you for correcting me. Whenever I say something that
isnt right, I want you to tell me like you did just now.
Introducing Anatomical Drawings. The anatomy identification stage has been adapted to better address the various ages
of the children interviewed. Generally, for children under age
5, the interviewer may say, I have some pictures to show you.
Which picture is the boy? Which picture is the girl? Are you a
boy or girl? In the past, two sheets were shown to the child,
one depicting the front and back of a boy and the other the front
and back of a girl. Since this appeared to be too abstract and
therefore confusing for young children, the interviewer now
gently folds the drawings so the child sees only the front of the
boy and girl. More explanation regarding the drawings is given
to children over 5. The interviewer may
indicate to the child that, since people have different names for
body parts, the interviewer would like to know what the child
calls a particular part. Reassurance such as, Whatever you call
it is OK, or, I just want to be sure I call it the same thing you
do, may be included. Only a few body parts other than the
private areas are pointed out for the child to name. For children
over 10, this stage of the process is generally less useful, and
may be skipped altogether depending on the childs needs or
developmental level. However, the interviewer may still use
the drawings as needed to identify or refer to various places on
the body. For older children, the touch inquiry stage may also
be skipped. Instead, the interviewer may ask the child, Do you
know why you came here today?
Using Anatomical Dolls. In order to use the dolls, a child
must be able to make a representational shift. This is a level of
cognitive development usually reached by age 4-5. The
interviewer uses the dolls as a demonstration aid on a case-bycase basis. Dolls are no longer introduced as special, because
perpetrators often tell their victims that they are special."
Instead, the interviewer introduces the dolls as not to play
with, and, to talk about touches.
Inviting Statement to the Perpetrator. One of the earliest
changes made in the protocol was dropping what was referred
to as the retaliation release. Near the end of the interview, the
interviewer would ask the child what s/he would like to say to
the person that the child had indicated was the abuser. This
scenario may have given the appearance of not being objective
on the part of the interviewer, and seemed to be more
appropriate in a therapeutic setting.
Inquiring About an Alternative Hypothesis. Before the
closure stage of the interview, the interviewer routinely asks a
question such as, Has anybody else touched the private areas
on your body or made you touch their private places? This
provides an opportunity for a child to disclose any other
possible perpetrators and indicates that the interview is not
biased toward the initial allegation.

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by Judy Weigman, M.A., L.I.C.S.W.

1997 Training Schedule

Effective Intervention in Child Sexual Abuse: A Pre-Assessment Model, for

Orientation for interagency team members in Hennepin County is a three-hour session

Changes in the CornerHouse Interview Protocol

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