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A Section created using Section Wizard can't be viewd in
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Posted by Steel Structural Design on Tue, Jun 4 2013 6:45 AM
Hi everybody,
I tried to create a new section using section wizard and then exporting it into STAAD, and using
create user table >>> Define >>> assign, but when I tried to view it as a 3D rendered , it appered
as a line, and I've to view it in its real shape to get the proper Beta Angle of the beam to get the right
load analysis of my structure and then a right design,
so what's the solution for this situation??????
Thanks a lot in advance =')
Posted by Sye on Thu, Jun 6 2013 4:37 AM
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STAAD cannot design coldformed sections unless these are chosen from the coldformed section
database available within the software. In your case, you have defined general sections and so these
cannot be designed per the AISI code ( members 7 9 17 to 20 ... etc ). The only way you can get these
designed is, if you add these coldformed sections directly into the STAAD.Pro Coldformed section
database. However you have to choose one of the standard coldformed shapes that is already
available and add the new section to that database
Also 23, 24, 25 ... are aluminum section and cannot be designed using LRFD code. You will need to
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design these as per the Aluminum code. This code comes as part of the US Specialized Design code
pack.
Posted by Shany on Tue, Jun 4 2013 6:58 AM
Hello
In order to plot the profile of the section in the STAAD GUI, the program needs to know the exact
shape. The shape can be understood only if STAAD.Pro knows the coordinates of the corners of the
cross section. Unfortunately, when one creates a PRISMATIC or a GENERAL section using Section
Wizard and exporting that data to a STAAD user table file, the coordinates of the corners are not
exported with the property values. Due to this, STAAD is unable to draw the precise shape.
As a workaround, if suitable for your section , you may use the "Create User Table" from the Tools
Menu and use the General Section type .
Switch on the check box named Define Profile polygon and provide the coordinates of the corners.
Once all corners are specified, click on Compute Section Properties and save it.
Shayan
Posted by Steel Structural Design on Tue, Jun 4 2013 7:24 AM
Hi Shany,
I created the following section, and as you said it won't draw the section,
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so that, I did as you told me (Create user table>>General>>OK), but no choice is available, i.e: the
following appears:
Posted by Steel Structural Design on Tue, Jun 4 2013 7:27 AM
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Ohhh, sorry it's working now, and I'm going to get my section =')
thanks a lot Shany =')
Posted by Shany on Tue, Jun 4 2013 7:40 AM
Happy to help....
You can verify the answer if the solution is working for you.
Shayan
Posted by Steel Structural Design on Tue, Jun 4 2013 7:48 AM
section file.sec
I was trying to plot my section, but it didn't work with me, a weird section appeared,
kindly find the attached file, which is my section file created using section wizard, I want to know which
coordinates to use??
Thank you Shany =')
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Posted by Shany on Tue, Jun 4 2013 8:12 AM
3D shape of a user table section.pdf
Please see the attached document . This may help you/
Shayan
Posted by Steel Structural Design on Wed, Jun 5 2013 5:58 AM
Thank you Shany =')
I could know how to draw the section, and it appeared as 3D rendered section, but when I was trying
to Run analysis it stops and gives this error msg:
" *** ERROR: INVALID SECTION TYPE IN USER TABLE "
why???
Posted by Shany on Wed, Jun 5 2013 7:05 AM
Please send me the Staad model .
Shayan
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Posted by Steel Structural Design on Wed, Jun 5 2013 7:09 AM
load analysis_mod.std
Hi Shany,
here is the model, =')
Posted by Shany on Wed, Jun 5 2013 7:50 AM
Hello ,
I analyzed the model in the latest Staad (20.07.09.31) and did not come up with any error . A couple of
warning comes up, but the analysis runs fine .
Shayan
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Posted by Steel Structural Design on Wed, Jun 5 2013 7:56 AM
it's now working with me too, so weird!!
anyway, thanks a lot Shayan =')
but If you have a look to the model after running analysis, why the beams which has a special section
which I created are not designed??
Posted by Sye on Thu, Jun 6 2013 4:37 AM
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STAAD cannot design coldformed sections unless these are chosen from the coldformed section
database available within the software. In your case, you have defined general sections and so these
cannot be designed per the AISI code ( members 7 9 17 to 20 ... etc ). The only way you can get these
designed is, if you add these coldformed sections directly into the STAAD.Pro Coldformed section
database. However you have to choose one of the standard coldformed shapes that is already
available and add the new section to that database
Also 23, 24, 25 ... are aluminum section and cannot be designed using LRFD code. You will need to
design these as per the Aluminum code. This code comes as part of the US Specialized Design code
pack.