This document provides a guide for upgrading cheap, older motorcycles into cafe racers on a budget. It discusses modifications that can be made to improve handling and performance, including lowering weight by choosing lightweight rims and tires. Front end modifications like swapping out forks and triple trees are recommended if the original forks are thin. Engine modifications and carb options are also covered. The goal is to build a bike that can handle well and keep up on twisty roads despite having less power than larger sports bikes.
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Cafe Racer Guide
This document provides a guide for upgrading cheap, older motorcycles into cafe racers on a budget. It discusses modifications that can be made to improve handling and performance, including lowering weight by choosing lightweight rims and tires. Front end modifications like swapping out forks and triple trees are recommended if the original forks are thin. Engine modifications and carb options are also covered. The goal is to build a bike that can handle well and keep up on twisty roads despite having less power than larger sports bikes.
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Cafes, Bobbers, Scramblers and Flat-Trackers and Ratbikes:
Jim's Guide To Upradin C!eap "ld Rice Rides#
By Jim March draft 1.0, May 3 rd 2013 $%TR" & '()T )R* '* TR+$%G T" )CC",-.$S( (*R*/ & ()%0.$%G T(*"R+ )%0 -R)CT$C* 1 Front end mods: 1 Rear end mods: 2 T!e Book "f Rims 3 "4erall ri!t !ei!t notes 5 front and rear as t!e6 interact 7 *RG"%",$CS ,"0S 8 *%G$%* ,"0S )%0 S*.*CT$"% 9 *nine ,odifications 9 -ipe ,ods 9 Carb "ptions )nd Tunin :: Carb Rebuildin: C; Carbs :< Carb Rebuildin 5 Roundslide carbs :< Carb Tunin :1 '()T B$=* T" ST)RT '$T(/ :1 S"URC*S (list of suppliers online) :7 ("' T" -$."T ) C)F* R)C*R :8 I !"# I$% &'I( #()#*, consider tippin+ the author (,- or ...) at my /epay account0 https011///./epay.com1donations1cafe23uilder2s2+uide2donation24ar &he listed manufacturers and sellers did $"& pay me to +et in here, nor /ill I e5er char+e for listin+s. If any3ody has more tips of any sort includin+ cool suppliers, drop me a line01.4im.march6+mail.com If I ma7e a 3it on this thin+ I /ill 3e more li7ely to 7eep it up to date 0). But honestly, this started out as my o/n notes for my o/n upcomin+ ne8t 3uild and that /ill remain part of the thin+ as I pro+ress. $%TR" &his is for some3ody /ho /ants somethin+ different. Instead of 3uyin+ a fairly modern 3e+inner sport3i7e li7e a (u9u7i (:;-0, you /ant to ta7e somethin+ older and up+rade it to personal taste. "r you<5e already +ot somethin+ older and /ant to tune it up on a 3ud+et. I<m /ritin+ this to +i5e you a +uide to ho/ to it safely and /ith a minimum of mis2steps. &his +uide /ill use the =>afe ?acer loo7@ as a startin+ point, and the info in that /ill 5alua3le to any3ody +oin+ a different direction such as a Bo33er or (cram3ler1lat2trac7er (the latter t/o more or less the same thin+). '()T )R* '* TR+$%G T" )CC",-.$S( (*R*/ =(uccess@ in 3uildin+ a rat2cafe (=on the cheap@) means 3uildin+ a 3i7e that is li+ht, fast2handlin+ and on a &IA'& t/isty mountain road can 7eep up /ith more or less anythin+ on the planet, /ith a +ood enou+h pilot at the /heel. "n a 5ery ti+ht road the horsepo/er ad5anta+e the other +uy on some modern sport3i7e can<t 3e used a+ainst you 5ery /ell. !ou<ll ha5e one ad5anta+e, and it<s not a 3i+ one0 your li+hter 3i7e /ith li+hter rims and tires /ill 3e a3le to flop o5er into a full 3attle lean faster than anythin+ this side of a hi+h23uc7s %ucati or the li7e. It<s not a hu+e ad5anta+e 3ut on the ri+ht road it<s enou+h to em3arrass the hell out of some ne/3ie sBuid 0). Cnd you don<t need to pass <em on a rat cafe, 4ust 7eep up and dri5e <em 3on7ers. 'u+e fun. 'ere<s /hat success loo7s li7e0 Drice0 under ,3,000 ma8. If you<re spendin+ more than that you<re doin+ it /ron+ in my opinion. ?ims are as li+ht as you can +et <em. &his is crucial to a really +ood performin+ canyon racer cafe ride. Ee<ll tal7 a3out those in their o/n chapter. >ar3s should 3e either /ell2tuned factory type (usually >: althou+h /e<re +oin+ to do a /hole chapter on car3sF) or 3etter yet some sort of roundslide or flatslide. or smaller to a5era+e si9e riders, most fol7s /ill 3e happy /ith a t/in of 3-02-00cc or a -00 to ;-0 sin+le cylinder, and around 3- to -0hp. Bi++er pilots mi+ht /ant to +et up to the ;-2G-hp ran+e in either one of the 3i++er t/ins or possi3ly a H23an+er motor of ;-0 or G-0cc (meanin+ a classic air2cooled four as opposed to a modern /ater2cooled =supersport@ motor). >osmetically, on the ne8t pa+e there are some classic <;0s Brit3i7es that most cafe 3uilders are 3asically aimin+ at, or chec7 out this 5ideo for more info on the cafe scene in +eneral0 http011///.youtu3e.com1/atch.5I5mCa:+#9$hJ Most of what's on that video, and what we're talking about in this guide, is fakes of those early British cafe racers made out of 197s!"s!9s!whatever #a$anese bikes%%%or whatever other weird stuff you can scrounge u$% &' (on't assume there's rules here%%% &hey all ha5e certain thin+s in common0 they<re t/ins (althou+h British sin+les /ere popular too +o do a +oo+le ima+e search for a 'onda AB-00 as it<s a pretty close Buasi2replica) and they ha5e lar+e li+ht rims in5ol5in+ aluminum2hoops2o5er2spo7e in a distincti5e ='2pattern@ that loo7s =flat2faced@ on the outside ed+e (also 7no/n as =shouldered@ 2 all of these rims pictured a3o5e are of that sort. &hese rims are li+ht and stiff and remain the li+htest street rims and tires you can run /ithout +oin+ to car3on fi3er ,-72a2piece monsters. Dut another /ay, there are fi5e aspects to a lo/23uc7s cafe 3uild0 1) *oo7s (/hich I<m not e5en +oin+ to tal7 a3out, that<s on youF) 2) )n+ine performance. 3) (uspension and handlin+ and /e<ll file =dumpin+ e8cess /ei+ht@ in there too as 3ein+ - th K+rinL. H) )r+onomics seat, handle3ar and footpet positionin+. "f these I consider suspension and handlin+ the most important, er+onomics second, en+ine third, loo7s in dead last 0). But that<s me. (ome thin+s affect more than one issue e8haust mods can increase cornerin+ clearance (handlin+ issue) /hile droppin+ total /ei+ht (sometimes 3y a lot) and can also increase performance /hen done ri+ht. I<m +oin+ to ta7e you throu+h moddin+ each area before /e tal7 a3out 3i7es, so that you ha5e a +ood feel for the theory as to /hy you /ould /ant any one particular 3i7e as a startin+ point. ()%0.$%G T(*"R+ )%0 -R)CT$C* In a corner your tires are +oin+ to 3ounce o5er small 3umps. !ou do not /ant the tires =catchin+ air@ in any fashion durin+ those mid2corner 3umps 3ecause /hen that happens you tend to =chatter side/ays@. &he tires lift, +et thro/n sides/ays (in mid2corner remem3er), and on landin+ there<s a ris7 they /on<t hoo7 3ac7 up a+ain in /hich case you and the 3i7e could 3e seriously dented. irst 7ey to pre5entin+ this seBuence is lo/ rim /ei+ht. It is impossi3le to o5erstate ho/ 5ital this is. *i+ht rims and tires /ill not ha5e as much up/ard momentum on those mid2corner 3umps, and it /ill 3e easier for the suspension to push the tires 3ac7 do/n onto the road /hen they try and lift. )n other words, lighter rims and tires will allow cra$$ier sus$ension $arts to still work *+% &herefore droppin+ the rim /ei+ht and runnin+ narro/2ish tires is a =uni5ersal up+rade@ to the entire suspension process. (econd ad5anta+e /ith li+ht rims is that there<s less +yroscopic effect holdin+ you upri+ht. &his means you can flop the 3i7e o5er faster into a corner, perhaps out2di5in+ some3ody in a much 3i++er, more po/erful 3i7e (/ith hea5ier /ider rims). It<s hard for some3ody in a supersport to use their massi5e po/er ad5anta+e if surpriseF 2 you already ha5e the inside line on their dum3 3utts 0). Ehen /e +et to specific 3i7e options /e<ll tal7 a3out possi3le rim choices for those 3i7es. (&id3it thou+h0 'onda =>omstar@ rims roc7 hard...they loo7 li7e crap 3ut they<re stiff and li+ht, the 3est rims of the late 1MG0s throu+h early <J0s.) Front end mods: Eell one option is to s/ap out the /hole front end, triple trees, for7s, 3ra7es, rims, the /or7s. Jun7yard 3its (or some3ody<s total scrap =dead en+ine@ parts 3i7e) can often 3e had cheap /ith effecti5e scroun+in+. )3ay is often /orth loo7in+ at. C total front end s/ap is often /orth thin7in+ a3out if your ori+inal for7s are fairly thin, esp. in the 3-mm /idth ran+e or less. Ct 3Gmm or 3Mmm you<re doin+ 3etter. &o do ran7en3i7e front ends, first you need to 7no/ a3out the for7 diameters of 5arious 3i7es to fi+ure out /hich 3i7es are an up+rade from the diameter your ha5e no/. &here<s data at0 http011///.dotheton.com1forum1inde8.php.topicI20M-0.0 If you /ant to 7eep your ori+inal rims (instead of 7eepin+ the one from the donor source) you need to 7no/ a3out a8le diameters0 http011///.dotheton.com1forum1inde8.php.topicI20M-2.0 Cnd then there<s these +uys, /ho sell =adapter steerin+ head 3earin+s@ for s/aps0 http011///.all3allsracin+.com1inde8.php1for7con5ersion 'ere<s the 7ic7er0 you punch in /hat your core 3i7e is (meanin+ the frame) 3y ma7e1model1year and it /ill list /hich potential front2end donor 3i7es they ha5e adapter 7its for, alon+ /ith their adapter part num3er. &his eliminates a lot of +uess/or7F "ther possi3le mods to the front end are0 N or7 3races. T!ese can be do>nri!t 4ital if 6ou pull off t!e front fender, because t!e oriinal steel front fender on t6pical cafe con4ersion bikes act as factor6 fork braces# (uper3race is the top source0 http011///.super3race.com1 2 these sta3ili9e the entire front end, reducin+ =headsha7e@ tendencies 3y 7eepin+ e5erythin+ properly ali+ned. 'i+hly recommended. N >artrid+e )mulators. "O...stoc7 cafe2pro4ect front ends usually use old2school for7 dampin+. &here<s a plate that mo5es up and do/n /ith the for7s /ith holes in it, /hich is +oin+ up and do/n in a pool of oil. &he a3ility for oil to flo/ throu+h those holes is /hat slo/s do/n the for7<s mo5ement e5en more than the sprin+s. Eith modern =cartrid+e@ sport3i7e for7s, there<s still holes 3ut they ha5e little flapper =sprin+ plates@ o5er them. &his lets them pass less oil on a small 3ump 3ut more on a 3i+ 3ump in other /ords, 5aria3le dampin+. ?emem3er that mid2corner 3ump pro3lem. !eah, /ell this is a 3i+ part fo a complete solution to that issue. >artrid+e emulators are replacement =hole assem3ly@ units that scre/ into classic for7s and adds modern 5aria3le dampin+. &he result is in5isi3le so if you<re +oin+ for the =classic loo7@ (instead of +raftin+ on A(P? for7s or /hate5er) they roc7. ?acetech is the top name 3ut there<s others +oo+le =cartrid+e emulators@ for more0 http011///.racetech.com1'&M*QI*)(1)M#*C&"?A:.'&M* ,ro ti$& if you're looking for a front end swa$, you might check here to see if your donor bike forks are su$$orted by racetech or other makes of cartridge emulator kits% N Dro+ressi5e sprin+s0 another up+rade for classic for7 tu3es, pro+ressi5e sprin+s ha5e an area of =/ide sprin+s@ for stiffness and ti+hter2/ound for handlin+ small 3umps. Just +oo+le =pro+ressi5e for7 sprin+s@ for your 3i7e...they are /idely a5aila3le. N )l >heapo or7 Dreload Mods0 increasin+ the sprin+ stiffness in your front end can help under some circumstances, if it =feels too soft@ out there. "O, fine ta7e the /ei+ht off the front end, frame on a mil7 crate /ill do, or han+ the handle3ars /ith ropes. &a7e the top caps off each for7 tu3e and cram 1@ lon+ sections of the appropriate /idth hea5y D:> pipe from any +ood hard/are store do/n in there, re2cap. &ry it out, 5ary the preload as needed /ith different len+ths of D:> pipe. %irt cheap and in5isi3le mod. Ma7e sure you clean up any plastic fra+ments that mi+ht fla7e off in thereFFF Rear end mods: N Ma7e sure the s/in+arm is not looseFFF Aet the /ei+ht off the rear, pull the rear rim, disconnect the shoc7s so that the s/in+arm is only on there 5ia the front. $o/ /i++le it. &here should 3e minimal side to side yet smooth up and do/n. If it feels at all /on7y s/ap the 3ushin+s. *isten carefully here0 sta3ility at that s/in+arm 4oint is 3eyond =5ital@. Insta3ility here is seriously, radically unsafe. N &he main up+rade a5aila3le at the rear end is shoc7s. Most of these 3i7es /ill 3e dual2shoc7 and that can /or7 "O. !ou /ant, yet a+ain, pro+ressi5e sprin+s in this case it usually means there<s t/o actual sprin+s, one /ound ti+hter than the other. Dictured is an e8ample of a 5ery +ood rear shoc7 pro+ressi5e /indin+ (note the dual2rate sin+le sprin+) and an e8ternal oil reser5oir more oil a5aila3le means the oil stays cooler lon+er. (?eally only 5ital in race applications or if you<re a ma4or canyon racer.) (hoc7s can 3e ordered =o5er2len+th@ if you /ant to =4ac7 up@ the rear so as to increase cornerin+ clearance. But there<s another, e5en more 5ital feature not immediately 5isi3le0 the best shocks can be ordered set u$ for your s$ecific bike and $ilot weight% Ct that point you<re spendin+ ,;00 or more from Eor7s Derformance or the li7e, 3ut the results.../ell, they can 3e do/nri+ht a/esome. "n a 3ud+et. &he cheaper non2reser5oir rear shoc7s from %ime >ity >ycles or the li7e that are still pro+ressi5ely /ound (often usin+ t/o different actual sprin+s stac7ed one on top of the other) for under ,200 can /or7 5ery /ell if you ad4ust the preload properly and run li+ht rims. ((ee =sources@ at the end for %ime >ity<s /e3site and much more.) N or those /ith access to a /elder and +uts, con5ersions to monoshoc7 can 3e damned interestin+ 3ecause you can then sometimes use 4un7yard rear shoc7 units from modern sport3i7es, /hich can 3e surprisin+ly cheap for /hat you<re +ettin+. C fe/ potential cafe pro4ects start out as monoshoc7 already, mainly the early !amaha :ira+os and the 'onda A*;-0. T!e Book "f Rims or 3est results as a cafe you /ant a 1M@ front rim, 1J@ rear. &hat<s =optimal@. !ou also /ant the front and rear diameters of each to 3e a fairly close match 1M@ front and 1;@ rear is not ad5isa3le. 1J@ front /ith an 1J@ or 1G@ rear can /or7 or a 1G@ rear 1M@ front if you can fit a 1H02J011G on it. -ou also want the rims to be as light as $ossible% &he 3est possi3le setup is aluminum hoops o5er spo7es. &hese /ill 3e much li+hter than any modern sport3i7e rim this side of e8pensi5e car3on fi3er or the li7e, and /ith less +yroscopic effect you<ll 3e a3le to flop it o5er into a corner faster than anythin+ else on the street. (teel hoops o5er spo7es /ill 3e "O and you can up+rade later Mi7e<s P( has aluminum rims in stoc7 /ith spo7es in 3;spo7e and HJspo7e. &here /as a factory option on some 1MG0s2era !amaha P(;-0s 2 ='2pattern@ (or =shouldered@) factory aluminum2o5er2spo7e hoops. &hey<re hard to find 3ut if you see them snatch them up. &his is also the preferred type if 3uyin+ replacement hoops from Mi7es...see this pa+e for e8amples0 http011///.mi7es8s.net1products2-;.htmlRproducts Ehere possi3le a5oid the =Buasi2cruiser@ 5ariants of these 3i7es, usually /ith 1;@ rear rims. Clso0 most factory =ma+@ rims of the pre21MJ- period /ere dis+ustin+ly hea5y, esp. !amaha 3ut also Oa/i and (u9u7i. 'onda ho/e5er +ot it ri+ht /ith the =>omstar@ aluminum rims they /ere 5ery li+ht and ri+id, e8cellent rims from the =narro/ rim@ period. 'onda mostly used these from 1MGJ21MJ2. &he early 'onda Aold/in+s (A*1000) from 1MG-2GM had t/o rim options0 >omstars 3y 1MGJ for/ard and 3efore that (and as an option all years) e8cellent ='2pattern@ (also 7no/n as =shouldered@) aluminum2o5er2spo7e rims front and rear. &hey /ere 1G@ rear, 1M@ front althou+h you could of course lace up different rims. I am told there ha5e 3een some successes +raftin+ this rear rim1hu3 (alon+ /ith a dis7 3ra7e up+rade) to the >P1A*-001;-0 t/in series, in particular the A*;-0 that I 7no/ of. Cpparantly that early Aold/in+ rim (and possi3ly the Aold/in+ rear dri5e unit on the A*;-0 s/in+arm.) can 3olt ri+ht in /ith minimal mods. I ha5e not personally tried it yet 3ut the +uys on the >P-00 forums are sayin+ it<s a =+o@. !ou can do "O /ith 1;@ rear rims 3ut you<ll /ant an 1J@ or 1M@ front. (maller 1;@ fronts from the earliest period (nota3ly the !amaha ?adian;00, earliest Oa/i )P1$in4a -00 and some others) had sBuirrelly handlin+. If you<re 3uyin+ a 3i7e /ith steel hoops o5er spo7es and plannin+ on s/appin+ to aluminum hoops later, yeah, that<s doa3le...fi+ure you<ll ha5e to replace the =nuts@ at the end of each spo7e 3ut usually you can recycle the ori+inal spo7es, /hich /ill 3e an easy /ay to match up your hu3s to the ne/ aluminum hoops of the same diameter. B#&F Ao count your spo7es and ma7e sure either Mi7e<s P( or %ime >ity >ycles (see lin7s section, end of this document) has aluminum hoops in your spo7e count, other/ise you<ll 3e payin+ 3i++er 3uc7s at Buchannon<s (po7es for aluminum rims /ith custom2drilled hole counts to match a particular 3i7e<s odd3all hu3 pattern. ortunately Buchannon<s can also sell you the correct spo7e len+ths for your hu3 /ith /hate5er si9e rim you /ant. http011///.3uchananspo7es.net &here are also a 3unch of +ood +uides on ho/ to lace up a custom rim and hu3 all o5er youtu3e if you search on terms li7e =lacin+ rims custom@ or the li7e. >'CI$ %?I:) BIO)( "$*!0 s/appin+ rims 3et/een 5ery different models or e5en 3rands is often /or7a3le, so lon+ as the a8le diameter is ri+ht, the chain type matches the sproc7ets front and rear and you mi+ht ha5e to t/ea7 the /idth of one of the spacers on a +rinder. C list of /hich 3i7es use /hich a8le diameters is at0 http011///.dotheton.com1forum1inde8.php.topicI20M-2.0 ma7e sure you +ra3 the a8les, a8le nuts and spacers from the donor 3i7e to ensure an easy hac7 4o3, "O. Clso, s/aps are easier on drum rear 3ra7e setups, in +eneral. "4erall ri!t !ei!t notes 5 front and rear as t!e6 interact Jac7ed up is +ood, /ithin limits. &here are ho/e5er thin+s you need to 7no/. (C)&! EC?$I$A0 &he closer the for7s point to strai+ht do/n, the less sta3le they<ll 3e. Aot that. $o/, that can 3e "O if you<5e also done =sta3ility enhancement mods@ to the front such as a for7 3race and1or thic7er for7 tu3es...plus ma7e sure the s/in+arm pi5ot point isn<t sloppy as that /ill affect ?"$& end sta3ility. (o. If you<5e ta7en steps to sta3ili9e the front, you can then ris7 4ac7in+ up the rear to +ain cornerin+ clearance, or if you<re a smaller rider and don<t need as much clearance, you can drop the for7s in the for7 tu3es to lo/er the front end and point the for7s closer to strai+ht do/n. Dictured is a set of for7 tu3es slid up /ithin the triple trees, droppin+ the 3i7e and speedin+ up the steerin+...he loosened the t/o nuts sho/n plus t/o more li7e them 3elo/, slid the for7 tu3es a3out an inch, ti+htened it all do/n. )5en half an inch can ha5e ma4or effects on the steerin+ feel and front end sta3ility. )ither /ay, steeper for7 an+les ma7e the steerin+ Buic7er (=t/itchier@) /hich can 3e a +ood thin+ in capa3le hands. T!is kind of mod is not for ne>bie pilots??? >apische. !ou can ho/e5er /or7 your /ay up to this point as you mod the 3i7e if you<re ne/ to motorcycles in +eneral. "35iously, front for7 complete s/aps can also affect the len+th of the front end and hence the an+le of the for7 tu3es ta7e all that into consideration /hen s/appin+ front end. If the donor for7s are lon+er than stoc7, o35iously mo5in+ them up the triple trees some to restore the stoc7 an+les is safe. %o not learn that your front end is unsta3le in a speed2/o33le that 7ills you. !ou ha5e 3een /arnedF M<7ay. Cnd for Aod<s sa7e, at the first si+n of a speed2/o33le that you pull out of, plan your ne8t set of mods to sta3ili9e the front some more fast. *r take off that swoo$y long rear shock you .ust bolted in and $ut the shorter stock units back on until your shiny new fork brace or other nice front end mods come in% Ehate5er you do as a 3i7e modder, listen ?)C* E)** to /hat the 3i7e tells you. &his is the most important thin+ I<5e said in this entire document. *RG"%",$CS ,"0S &his is a 5ery personal area so I<m not +oin+ to say much. ?un the handle3ars you /ant, standard or clip2on type. Eorst case you<ll ma7e the comfort stin7 for lon+ distance, if so s/ap around. I /ould recommend startin+ /ith lo/ =flat trac7@ type 3ars a5aila3le at any 3i7e 4un7yard for ,10...run those, see if you li7e <em, s/ap later once the 3i7e is closer to =done@ (haF). (eat is the same deal0 run /hate5er you li7e, don<t 3e afraid to roll your o/n. "n a 3ud+et. ?olls of closed2cell campin+ mattress foam, some contact cement to tac7 it do/n, a 7nife to sha5e the stac7 to shape and a ,1- duffel 3a+ from a sportin+ +oods store can 3uild you a surprisin+ly +ood seat. !eah. %uffel 3a+...I said it 0). :ery minimal stitchin+ needed to turn that into an a/esome seat co5er. "ne thin+ on seats and handle3ars that may 3e of interest to fol7s dri5in+ lon+ distances0 learn to set your =free/ay float@. Ehile leanin+ for/ard at, say, G-mph, you can ad4ust your seatin+ position and esp. handle3ars so that there<s almost no /ei+ht on your arms as the /ind literally holds you up you<re =floatin+@. "n a for/ard2lean 3i7e (cafe or sport3i7e) /ith no /indscreen, this is a top secret of a comforta3le lon+2distance ride. &hat and a full2face helmet. 0) Eith rearset footpe+s...there<s somethin+ interestin+ there0 LL&he closer you can mount them to the rear s/in+arm pi5ot point, the 3etter.KK Because that<s the part of the 3i7e you /ant to sta3ili9e /ith your feet. %ime >ity, Mi7e<s P( and *ossa ha5e rearsets all are listed under =(uppliers@ at the end of this article. 'ard/are stores ha5e +ood selections of threaded rod and 5arious 3its to ma7e lin7a+es out of. *%G$%* ,"0S )%0 S*.*CT$"% *et<s start /ith selection of the core 3i7e /ith motor. !ou should care a3out horsepo/er. $o Buestion. But you should also care a3out =ho/ it ma7es the po/er@. !ou should $"& care much a3out >>s (cu3ic centimeters of displacement, /hich is /here /e +et =-00cc@ or the li7e) as a motor si9e as it 3orders on meanin+less. C motor can 3e =pea7y and e8plosi5e@ /ith ma4or horsepo/er for it<s si9e, or it can 3e =torBuey and controlla3le@ for it<s si9e. "r some/here in 3et/een. &he factors that ma7e a 3i7e put out 3i+ po/er in a less controlled fashion0 1) More cylinders for the si9e...a ;00cc H2cylinder modern sport3i7e motor (>B?;00?? or the li7e) could easily put out 110hp stoc7. C (u9u7i =(a5a+e@ (a7a =(H0@) is a ;-0cc sin+le cylinder, =3i++er@ than the 'onda 3y -0cc, 3ut it<s only puttin+ out a3out 3-hp. 2) Cir2cooled /ill mean less pea7 po/er than /ater2cooled, all else 3ein+ eBual. It<s not definiti5e 3ut air2coolin+ is a si+n of a less =frantic@ motor. 3) More 5al5es per cylinder means 3i+ pea7y po/er, all else 3ein+ eBual. H) 'i+h redline means 3i+ po/er. -) &/o2stro7e motors /ill put out more po/er for their displacement than a four2stro7e. &hey are also less relia3le. #nless you really 7no/ /hat you<re +ettin+ into, a5oid t/o2stro7e motors li7e the pla+ue. (&he 3reed is no/ 3asically e8tinct 3ecause they put out se5ere pollution...3ut 3ac7 in the 1MG0s they /ere still a thin+...) !ou can of course plan out a cafe for a serious, e8perienced rider. !ou can start /ith a 3i7e that has a supersport2class modern motor if you /ant. &here<s no rules here. But a ne/3ie rider should consider a t/in /ith a ma8 of -02;-hp (the latter for a lar+e rider) as opposed to a H23an+er hypersport /ith 100S ponies on tap, unless you ()?I"#(*! mod the frame and suspension to fully modern standards. *nine ,odifications &he only mods a 3e+innin+ cafe 3uilder should need or /ant is mods to the inta7e and e8haust. %one ri+ht these /on<t 7ill the en+ine. #sin+ the e8tra po/er you +et (if you do it ri+ht) /ith hea5y2handed throttle can of course /ear the motor out faster. -ipe mods Aenerally you /ant to run the stoc7 inside /idth on your pipes, and do a =mer+e pipe@ on t/ins, triples or fours. (EC?$I$A0 a lot of stoc7 pipes are dou3le2/alled so if you measure the outside diameter, the inside diameter (that matters in terms of the /idth of ne/ pipe you<re doin+) /ill 3e /ay off. C =mer+ed pipe@ means all the outputs mer+e to one point at a set point do/nran+e, and then you run one muffler. &his 3oth increases performances and sa5es /ei+ht (one muffler is li+hter than 2 to H). 'ere<s /hy there<s a performance 3oost0 &a7e the case of a t/in (t/o2cylinder). (et up ri+ht, /hen the e8haust pulse from one cylinder hits the mer+e point, the pulse from the other cylinder is 4ust startin+. "nce past the mer+e point the first cylinder<s pulse literally pulls the pulse from the other cylinder. Cnd /hen that one clears the mer+e, the cycle starts a+ain. (ame /ith triples and four23an+ers. If you are doin+ a fully custom e8haust you can find out /here the proper mer+e point is 3y ta7in+ measurements of the mer+e 4unction distance from the heads on a professionally 3uilt aftermar7et pipe and then copyin+ that distance. "ther factors0 if you run fatter2than2stoc7 pipes, your lo/2?DM po/er /ill suffer 3ut your upper2?DM po/er can increase if you do e5erythin+ else ri+ht. 'o/e5er, you pro3a3ly need a seriously impro5ed motor to ta7e full effect of fat pipes 3i++er pistons in 3i++er cylinder 3ores, head/or7, hot cam, the sort of thin+s that are 3eyond the scope of this +uide and ha5e to 3e specific for your motor. %oin+ a full custom e8haust on a t/o2cylinder 3i7e isn<t as difficult as you mi+ht thin7. )5en on a four23an+er it can 3e done for reasona3ly cheap. %ime >ity and Mi7es< P( ha5e =+eneric pipe 7its@ /ith 5arious 3ends and strai+ht 3its that can 3e /elded up0 http011///.mi7es8s.net1product11M20H20.html http011///.dimecitycycles.com15inta+e2cafe2racer2caferacer23o33er23rat2chopper2custom2motorcycle2 parts23ilt/ell2uni5ersal2e8haust27it2e82aa2r/20020.html &hese 7inds of 7its should /or7 fine /ith most 1MG0s2era t/ins from 3-0cc up throu+h G-02J00 plus many of the 3i++er sin+les (-002;-0). !ou can use stu3s of the e8istin+ stoc7 pipes at the heads as a startin+ point. *ocal auto muffler shops are often /illin+ to help for surprisin+ly cheap a5oid the national chains, +o /ith a little mom<n<pop local type, they<re often 5ery cool. or a mer+e point, one option is to cruise 3i7e 4un7yards loo7in+ for a +ood mer+e point from an other/ise /rec7ed set of pipes. ,10 and it<s yours, cut out the mer+e point, use it in your other/ise custom setup. &he results /ill loo7 li7e crap 3ut run +reat than7 the diety of your choice for the pipe /rap tape loo7 K+rinL. $o/, one reason to do all this is that it is sometimes the only /ay to +et the pipes fully and completely out of the /ay of your lean an+le. Cnd for handlin+ issues, that matters. In the pipe sho/n here, the pipes interfere /ith ma8 lean an+le on a ri+ht2hand turn, /hich isn<t +ood. If the footpe+s /ere up hi+her and further 3ac7 (=rearsets@) the difference in a5aila3le cornerin+ clearance /ould 3e e5en more o35ious. &hat pipe should 3e tuc7ed in under the en+ine li7e )ric Buell lo5es to do instead of han+in+ off of one side. &he other /ay to +et pipes out of the /ay is to run them hi+h and off the side in =(cram3ler fashion@ or if you<5e dumped the ori+inal car3 air3o8, lose the side co5ers too and run the pipes out the underside of the seat for a 5ery effecti5e and cool loo7. Cs to the muffler0 I am a hu+e fan of usin+ +eneric2catalo+ (upertrapp e8hausts. 'ere<s /hy0 /ith the a3ility to add and remo5e 3affle dis7s you +et the chance to tune e8actly ho/ much air the pipe is flo/in+. &his is e8tremely useful /hen doin+ performance tunin+, in lar+e part 3ecause instead of re24ettin+ the car3s to e8actly match the pipe, you can +et the car3s close and then match the pipe to the car3s. It is impossi3le to o5erstate ho/ much easier this can 3e. (ummit ?acin+ is a >C? supply place that has a ton of a5aila3le (upertrapp muffler ends for 5arious diameter e8haust pipes0 http011///.summitracin+.com1search13rand1supertrapp1product2line1supertrapp2s2c2standard2mufflers. auto5ie/I(O# as you can see, this series +oes all the /ay do/n to a 2@ inlet si9e. If your outlet is smaller than that, no pro3lem, any muffler shop should ha5e tu3e e8panders to ta7e the end of a 1.G-@ or /hate5er pipe up to 2@ in seconds. If this lin7 stops /or7in+ 4ust search =supertrapp@ no Buotes on the (ummit /e3site li7e so0 http011///.summitracin+.com1search13rand1supertrapp they ha5e cool little =shorty@ units and /hate5er else you /ant. Clso a fair num3er of han+er 3rac7ets. !ou can also +o to %ime >ity, *ossa or the li7e and +et all 7inds of different 3i7e mufflers. "? 4un7yards are your friends of courseF But I<m tellin+ you no/, the (upertrapp option completely roc7s if you ha5e the cash a5aila3le. Carb "ptions )nd Tunin "O. &his is the 3i+ issue, in my 3oo7. Bi7e car3s of the 1M;0s and early <G0s /ere all =roundslide@ type direct2actuation car3s /ith a fe/ rare e8ceptions...BME for e8ample /ent to >:2type car3s early on. >: car3s, in my opinion, stin7. &hey<re delicate, hard to tune and cannot produce as much po/er as a +ood direct2actuation roundslide or flatslide. *et me sho/ you /hat I mean. &here<s some 3its left out the secondary pilot 4et, the lo/2speed idle 4et and the system for droppin+ ne/ +as into the reser5oir. I<5e also left out the small air passa+es that forces the >: slide to rise. (&here are also some 5ariations on e8actly ho/ the slide is controlled in some roundslide and flatslide desi+ns 3ut this doesn<t affect ho/ they perform.) But this simplified 5ie/ is enou+h to understand /hy these car3s are different. &he >: car3 has tiny ad5anta+es /here fuel economy is concerned and a modest decrease in pollution that allo/ed the Jap ma7ers to a5oid ha5in+ to +o to catalytic e8hausts. &o 3e fair, the >: car3 does ha5e one performance ad5anta+e0 as the en+ine speed rises it al/ays +i5es the en+ine 4ust the amount of +as it needs ne5er too much. &his /ould 3e +reat e8cept it doesn<t do so 5ery Buic7lyF Cnd since there<s t/o different thin+s in the car3<s 3ore +ettin+ in the /ay of airflo/ (the 3utterfly 5al5e and the main slide) there<s less total airflo/, /hich is /hy you can replace a 3Jmm 3ore >: car3 /ith a 3Hmm roundslide and still +et a performance increase. "n the roundslide (and racin+ flatslides) you +et direct no2B( control o5er the main slide. !ou /ant it up. !essir, ri+ht frac7in< no/, here /e +o, han+ on ti+ht. $o/, that means that if the car3 is a 3it on the 3i+ side, you can =3o+@ the motor feedin+ it too much +as. But e5en if that<s an issue, you can still learn to =ride the throttle@ on the /ay up the ?DM scale. C really properly tuned roundslide /on<t do that so lon+ as you didn<t pic7 too 3i+ a car3. I made a mista7e many moons a+o /ith my P(;-0, /ent for 3;mm roundslides /hen 3Hmm is the 3etter ans/er and I ran into that 3o+ situation...3ut e5en then it /as a short learnin+ cur5e and the top end po/er /as completely 7ic72ass a/esome so I didn<t /orry a3out it. $o/. "ne more difference the roundslide (and flatslide) doesn<t care much a3out the incomin+ air flo/ Buality. It 4ust suc7s it all up and 3e+s for more. "35iously, obstructed airflo/ is no +ood and some of the cheaper =pod air filters@ do that. Cnd 5elocity stac7s of some sort do help. But o5erall the roundslide1flatslide types don<t care much a3out the type of air filter setup you run or no filter at all and they<ll still /or7 "O. >: car3s are e8tremely pic7y. &hat incomin+ airflo/ has to 3e correct and strai+ht, plus for reasons I still don<t understand they need some sort of =air 3o8@ on multi2cylinder multi2car3 3i7es. (o /hen you see =pod filters@ of any sort on >: car3s, /ell...flat2out, that ain<t ri+ht. !ou >C$ sometimes ma7e <em =mostly /or7@, sometimes if you<re a real master at tunin+ them you can +et them almost runnin+ as +ood as stoc7. Clmost. More li7ely you<ll ha5e all 7inds of stum3les in the po/er output as it clim3s and top end po/er /ill 3e limited. (o, assumin+ you<re not yet ready to desi+n a ne/ roundslide or flatslide car3 setup for a +i5en 3i7e, ho/ do you do the con5ersion. Eell you find out if any3ody has a pre23uilt 7it, "? you loo7 for a 3i7e old enou+h that it used roundslides as the ori+inal factory car3s. "r if there<s no pac7a+ed up+rade 7it, search around that 3i7e<s forums and see if any3ody has successfully added 3etter car3s and if they left decent notes on mountin+ options, 4ettin+ recipes, etc. Mi7uni :M (usually :M3H) car3 7its for the P(;-0 are easy to +et from (udco and http011///.;-0central.com1 2 the latter for a3out ,H-0 /hich is reasona3le. #ser Murray on the >P-00 forums has a :M3H 7it for the >P1A* -00 and ;-0 motors, /ith fully custom manifolds needed for those 3i7es0 http011c8-00forum.com Mi7e<s P( has a cheap flatslide 7it for the P(;-0 (at ,300) 3ut I<5e heard the Buality is iffy as the car3s are out of >hina instead of Japan and the castin+s are...meh. *ossa has you co5ered for 'onda t/ins, (udco supports the )P-00 mini2sport3i7e and the :ulcan -00 is similar enou+h they should fit there too. Most of the 'onda =("'>@ ((in+le "5er'ead >am) -00, --0 and G-0 motors had roundslide car3s. I ha5e heard of some successes +raftin+ used sets of those onto later %"'> (1MGM for/ard) >BG-0s 3ut I don<t 7no/ the details. Carb Rebuildin: C; Carbs &he main do/nside to older >: car3s (esp. 20S years old) is that the =diaphra+m@ on top can easily crystali9e and de5elop crac7s or tears. "nce that happens the car3s /ill turn useless. &o chec7, pull off the =mushroom cap@ thin+ on top >C?)#**! and chec7 those ru33er sheets. If you need ne/ diaphra+ms this outfit may ha5e you co5ered0 http01143mindustries.com note the lin7 at the top ri+ht. "nce you ha5e the top of the car3 open and ha5e chec7ed or replaced the diaphra+m, carefully ma7e sure the central slide mo5es up and do/n smoothly. "nce it does re2cap the =mushroom top@ to protect the diaphra+m and only then flip it o5er and chec71clean the 3ottom end. &he rest of the car3s are easier. "nce you 7no/ that the top end is "O, scre/ it 3ac7 do/n, turn it o5er and start ta7in+ it apart and cleanin+ it from the 3ottom. Dull the fuel reser5ior 3o/ls, ta7e e5erythin+ apart, 3last out all the little passa+es and remo5a3le 3rass +as2flo/ inserts (=4ets@) /ith compressed air. $o air compressor. ine, +o to an office supply place and +et a couple of ,- or less cans of =compressed air for computer cleanin+@ li7e /hat<s sho/n here. !ou /ant those little plastic no99le e8tenders, they completely roc7 for cleanin+ car3s. I thin7 they actually /or7 3etter than an air compressor and seem to clean old +as off /ith nothin+ else in the /ay of sol5ents neededF Ma7e sure you +et the +un7 out of the reser5oir (a7a =float 3o/l@) and /hate5er you do, /rite do/n the num3ers stamped on each of the little 3rass inserts that meter the +as, 7no/n as =4ets@. Ehen you tune the 4ettin+ later (if you need to) you<ll need to 7no/ /hich 4et si9es to order to +o up or do/n from /here you<re at no/ on the main and pilot 4ets. (urprisin+ly, the rest of the insides of the car3s /ill usually 3e "O. &hey<ll need cleanin+ 3ut other/ise you don<t usually need the sort of =car3 re3uild 7it@ that comes /ith ne/ +as7ets, ne/ small ru33er 3its, etc. %o one car3 at a timeFFF &hat /ay you don<t mi8 up =innards@ from multiple car3s 0). Carb Rebuildin 5 Roundslide carbs (ame as the >: rules a3o5e e8cept you don<t need to chec7 the diaphra+ms 3ecause there ain<t none. Carb Tunin &here are t/o issues here0 4ettin+ and synchroni9ation. !ou =sync the car3s@ 3y ma7in+ sure they flo/ the same amount of air, each. &here<s a couple of /ays. Eith roundslide car3s you can set the amount of =startin+ point hei+ht@ of each slide 3y +ently measurin+ to ma7e sure all the openin+s are the same /idth /ith the blunt ends of drill 3its. %rill 3its come in pac7s that are 5ery precisely measured, so /ith the car3s in the 3i7e or 3etter yet off (=3ench synchroni9ation@) you match up the slide hei+hts 3y measurin+ the +aps 3elo/ the slides /ith drill 3its. Match them all up to the lo/est one, try it out, too lo/, match them all up to the ne8t si9e up 3it. It is more precise to measure the flo/ from each car3 /ith a suction tester /hile the en+ine is runnin+. &here are numerous youtu3e 5ideos on ho/ to do this for each motorcycle...search on the ma7e1model of your 3i7e alon+ /ith =sync@ or =synchroni9e@ and =car3s@. !ou can also find plans on ma7in+ a home3re/ synchroni9ation meter or you can 3uy meters for t/o2cylinder 3i7es for less than ,-0 at %ime >ity or else/here. Jettin+ is more comple8. %o a spar7 plu+ chec7 /ith 3rand ne/ plu+s to see /here you<re at0 http011///.Hstro7es.com1tech1spar7pl+.asp Ehen you cleaned1re3uilt your car3s you /rote do/n your 4ets, ri+ht. (o you can no/ order the ne8t si9e (or t/o si9es) up and do/n in each direction on the main and pilot 4ets pretty cheap, and start testin+ them. Jets are a5aila3le at a 3unch of sources onlineT you<ll need to 7no/ either the ma7e1model of car3 you<5e +ot "? if you 7no/ your car3s are stoc7 for your 3i7e, the ma7e1model of 3i7e. C lot of motorcycle shops ha5e trays full of 4ets layin+ around for ,32,- a pop. inally, if you /ent /ith my (upertrapp e8haust su++estion you can =re24et@ 3y addin+ 3affle dis7s (leanin+ the 3i7e out) or remo5in+ some (ma7in+ it richer and Buieter). &his can let you +et it runnin+ ri+ht no/, then +o score 3i++er 4ets later, s/ap and add some dis7s to match up for more oomph. '()T B$=* T" ST)RT '$T(/ ?ule one0 don<t do a 22stro7e. "O. (eriously. %on<t. $ot real relia3le lon+2term, parts are +ettin+ scarce, and if you mod them /ron+ you<ll +et horri3ly pea7y po/er that only an e8pert pilot should 3e any/here near. Eith rare e8ceptions (such as the !amaha &U2-013-0 series as >anadian or other such +rey2mar7et imports after 1MJ0ish) most had horri3le suspensions and frames. Dut another /ay0 if you<re +ettin+ 5alua3le data from this document, don<t +o 22stro7e. If all this is old hat to you, may3e you<re ready for the mechanical annoyances 0). Dast that, you /ant somethin+ fairly common and then ma7e it uncommon yourself. !ou /ant somethin+ /ith a ton of 4un7yard parts a5aila3le and if possi3le some aftermar7et support. Aoin+ /ith somethin+ o3scure /ill hurt you unless you<re /illin+ to really di+ around for parts. (B#&, )3ay is ma7in+ findin+ o3scure parts easier so...if you thin7 you 7no/ /hat you<re doin+...). I<5e already discussed '"E different en+ines ma7e po/er. (o let<s assume /e<re +oin+ =classic@, /ith a 3i7e that started life in the 1MG0s or <J0s (or at least, is that 7ind of tech le5el). Bi++er rider recipe is to aim for a3out ;0 to G0hp and under H00l3s under 3-0 preferred. )asiest startin+ points are a 'onda >B--0 H23an+er or the eBui5alent (u9u7i or Oa/asa7i --0s, ;-0 ma8 althou+h most are +oin+ to 3e too hea5y, !amaha P(;-0, a /ell2tuned !amaha :ira+o G-0 or M20 (early era monoshoc7 typesF) and possi3ly the earliest 'onda (hado/. &here<s also the !amaha (eca --0 and a 3it later the ?adian ;00, althou+h the handlin+ on the latter is 7inda sBuirrelly it can 3e fi8ed if you can find a cherry specimen cheap enou+h. &he P(;-0s are unfortunately all ate up 3y people doin+ cafes, 3o33ers etc. 3ecause the en+ine is 3oth 5ery +ood and a 5ery close cosmetic replica of a classic 1M;0s British t/in...and unmolested e8amples are 3i+ money. &he ?adian;00 motor /as later 3olted into the (eca22;00...the only 1MM0s2era H23an+er ;00 that /as still =ne/3ie friendly@ /ell into the 1MM0s and as they<re turnin+ up cheap enou+h, a possi3le candidate for a =modern loo7in+ cafe@. (maller riders can ha5e a lot of fun in the H02H-hp ran+e and 3-0l3s, 300 preferred. !ou can +et there /ith one of the 'onda H00 or e5en 3-0 four23an+ers if you can find one, the 5arious 'onda1(u9u7i1Oa/asa7i H-0 t/ins of the 1MG0s throu+h mid2J0s, or some people ha5e a lot of fun ta7in+ the 3i++est sin+le2cylinder street1dirt enduros they can find and con5ertin+ them to a cafe1supermotard mutant hy3rid. !amaha actually did a factory 5ersion at one point called the (?P;00 and 'onda had the AB-00 3oth are rare and /orth 3i+ money 3ut sho/ /hat can 3e done /ith an early 1MJ0s 3i+ sin+le dirt3i7e such as the !amaha P&-001--0 and 'onda P*-002;00 types. Eeirdest of all is the (u9u7i =(a5a+e@ ;-0 sin+le /hich 3elie5e it or not can 3e ri++ed as a >afe e5en /ithout a pre23uilt =7it@ /hich is a5aila3le0 http011///.youtu3e.com1/atch.5I%-r;rhVi&27 (ome people li7e the 'onda >P-00 as a startin+ point...honestly, it has issues /ith 3ein+ top2hea5y and does a little 3it of /eird =rollin+@ /hen you hammer the throttle in mid2corner so...hmmm...for a really serious effort, not a top choice althou+h it can 3e a lot of fun for a less +on9o effort. &here is also the >P;-01A*;-0 5ariants made in one year only, 1MJ3, that put out a3out 1-hp more than the -00 stoc7 and has potential as a =3i++er +uy@ 5ariant. !ou can also shoehorn the ;-0 motors into -00 frames, and a lot of people are doin+ that. &here<s a user 3y the name of Murray on the forums at http011c8-00forum.com /ho has de5eloped a complete 7it to 3olt a pair of Mi7uni :M3H car3s onto all of these 3i7es, -00 and ;-0. 'e also sells pre2fa33ed front motor mount han+ars to allo/ droppin+ the ;-0 motors cleanly into -00 frames and is other/ise &') +o2to +uy on these 3i7es. &he :M3H 7it /ith ne/ inta7e runners, throttle ca3les and e5erythin+ else needed is ,-00 I thin7. !ou can order them for a -00 motor and he<ll sell you 4ettin+ later for ,20 if you up+rade motors (or s/itch entire 3i7es). It<s hi+h for a dual2:M3H 7it 3ut considerin+ he had to desi+n all2ne/ inta7es to a5oid the car3s hittin+ the +as tan7s on these thin+s it<s fair...and there<s lots of reports that he has the 4ettin+ recipe e8tremely /ell de5eloped. &here is also a +uy sellin+ parts to con5ert >P2series >omstar rims to spo7es0 http011motosynthesis.3lo+spot.com1p1shoppin+2cart.html at the prices he char+es I /ould do the rear only, match it to a spo7e front rim from a 'onda A*1000 (early Aold/in+). I<m also told the early Aold/in+ rear 1G@ stoc7 rims can 3e +rafted onto the A*1>P ;-0 shaft dri5e units 3ut ha5e not confirmed this personally. Oa/asa7i had a G-0 t/in to compete /ith the P(;-0 3ut it has the dra/3ac7 of 3ein+ 5ery rare plus the Oa/i /as hea5ier and /orse handlin+. Oa/i frames throu+hout most of the 1MG0s had the /orst rep for fle8. &he Oa/i --02H3an+er /asn<t terri3le 3ut it needed up+rades to the suspension. &he Oa/asa7i, (u9u7i and 'onda ;-0 and G-0 four23an+ers of the late 1MG0s throu+h early 1MJ0s are /orth loo7in+ at for the 3i++est riders, mostly. &hey<re +oin+ to 3e harder to +et +ood handlin+ out of for pure /ei+ht reasons. I<m ;<H@ and 300l3s, and I had a lot of fun many years a+o on a tric7ed2out !amaha P(;-0 t/in. $o/ I<m +oin+ to loo7 for somethin+ a hair 3i++er, 3ut not to a G-0 Hcylinder. I am $"& a fan of the P(G-01J-0 triples for a num3er of reasons. &he po/er to /ei+ht ratio is iffy, the shaft unit is hea5y and the options for a li+ht/ei+ht rear rim are non2e8istant. &here is a rare 5ariant of the early !amaha :ira+o M20s that you mi+ht /ant to 7eep an eye out for0 the P:M20J /ith a chain dri5e, also 7no/n as the =)urosport (pecial@. C/esome cafe startin+ point. "5erall, the !amaha P(;-0 has the most +oin+ for it for a num3er of reasons. &he po/er output for this era of frame tech is a near2perfect match. It loo7s a lot li7e a late21M;0s Brit3i7e. Cftermar7et support is a/esome includin+ 3i+23ore en+ine 7its of G-0 or more if you /ant to +o nuts. &he usual ad5ice is =a5oid shaft dri5e@ 3ut...that<s not al/ays the case. &he 5ery earliest first2+eneration !amaha :ira+o G-01M20 ha5e a lot of interestin+ potential. )5en the 2 nd +en /ith more chrome can 3e stripped do/n the easy /ay to I% these early ones is the monoshoc7. &here<s no frame under the motor at all the motor I( the lo/er frame. Cctually ma7es it damned easy to /or7 on 0). indin+ or 3uildin+ li+ht/ei+ht rims for the :ira+os can 3e a pain. &he stoc7 cast rims /ere hea5y. !ou can ho/e5er s/ap in spo7e rims from later ='arley loo7in+@ :ira+o 5ariants and re2spo7e those hu3s on aluminum rims. Cnd the >P1A* -001;-0 'ondas are desi+ned from the +round up as shafties /ith the motor pointin+ the po/er the ri+ht /ay so there<s less =shaft dri5e po/er loss@. Cnythin+ 3i++er than G-0 from the early 1MJ0s or prior is +oin+ to 3e a +iant pi+ of a 3i7e 0). &his includes the !amaha shaft2dri5e 1100s, the early Aold/in+s, etc. &he only possi3le e8ception is the 'onda >BM00 and >BM00 try and a5oid the >BM00c (=>ustom@) despite it<s 3i9arre 102+ear dou3le2tranny setup. Cnd past a3out G-hp, you really need a more modern frame and suspensionF &here are also some early Japanese :2t/in =>ruisers@ that may ha5e potential as cafes. &he earliest 'onda (hado/ G-0 and J00 motors had ;;S horsepo/er and /ere fairly li+ht and narro/. (u9u7i<s Intruder G00, G-0 and J00 (ori+inal, not =:olusia@) and the Oa/i :ulcan G-0 /ere similar. &he Intruder already comes /ith li+ht aluminum rims 3ut the rear of the shaft dri5e unit is particularly hea5y. *i+ht rims on the (hado/s are possi3le if you can find a (hado/ J00 (1MJJ) spo7e rear rim and re2spo7e it to a 1G@ or 1J@ aluminum2o5er2spo7e rim setup. &he Oa/i has the /orst rim options and the motor is a /ee 3it delicate for my tastes. &here is also the Oa/i :ulcan -00 or earlier *&%H-H t/ins that ha5e potential as cafesT they share en+ine similarities /ith the )P-00 small t/in sport3i7es. S"URC*S %ime >ity is the 3i++est =+eneral merchant@ of >afe parts online. Aood fol7s0 http011///.dimecitycycles.com *ossa is a smaller 5ersion 3ut ha5e some neat pre2desi+ned14etted complete car3 setups for the 'onda t/o2cylinder 3i7es of the 1MG0s and early <J0s, plus +eneral +oodies0 http011///.lossaen+ineerin+.com Mi7e<s and ;-0>entral started as !amaha P(;-0 shops 3ut are 3ranchin+ out into other !amahas and cafes in +eneral. If you<re doin+ a car3 s/ap I recommend ;-0>entral<s :M3H23ased 7it /hile Mi7e<s has a 3etter =+eneral cafe parts selection@ 3eyond !amahas includin+ some a/esome deals on aluminum hoop rims if they match your spo7e counts0 http011///.;-0central.com http011///.mi7es8s.net #ser Murray on the >P-00 forums is &') top +uy any/here on the >P-001;-0 and A*-001;-0 motors and 3i7es. 'e<s the smallest =shop@ I<m mentionin+ a cool curmud+eon in a +ara+e /ho does on2site tuneups in $orth >arolina and sells car3 7its, en+ine adapters (;-0 in a -00 frame) and more0 http011c8-00forum.com &he other tiny shop I<m mentionin+ has the 3its needed to turn 'onda >omstar rims into spo7e hu3s you 4ust ha5e to i+nore the /ords =%o $ot %issassem3le@ 'onda stamped into these rims(F)0 http011motosynthesis.3lo+spot.com or custom rims /ith unlimited hole pattern possi3ilities and matchin+ spo7es, Buchannon<s are the people to see0 http011///.3uchananspo7es.net (udco is a hu+e +eneral motorcycle parts outlet /ell 7no/n for complete car3 7its and can offer custom24etted solutions for most 3i7es. &hey ha5e pre24etted complete 7its for the P(;-0 and others loo7 in the =5inta+e 3i7es@ portion of their catalo+0 http011///.sudco.com CllBalls?acin+ are the top people in the /orld for adaptin+ for7s off of one 3i7e to another. &o use this pa+e put in your frame<s data and it /ill tell you /hich donor for7s (entire front end /ith triple trees and such) can 3e adapted to your 3i7e /ith the adapter 3earin+s they sell, listed 3y part num3er. !ou need the donor<s 3i7e main 3olt and nut that +oes throu+h the steerin+ head0 http011///.all3allsracin+.com1inde8.php1for7con5ersion (ummit ?acin+ has the complete line of (upertrapp muffler ends do/n to 2@ inlet si9es that can 3e used on 3i7es0 http011///.summitracin+.com &he top cafe modder<s +eneral forum seems to 3e0 http011///.dotheton.com1forum -ou should look u$ whatever forum is s$ecific to the ty$e of bike you buy/ &here<s also the ?eddit http011reddit.com1r1caferacers and http011reddit.com1r1motorcycles forums /here I post as user =JimMarch@. ("' T" -$."T ) C)F* R)C*R C lot of this is my opinion. Arains of salt possi3ly needed, "O. Ao 3ac7 and /atch ="n Cny (unday@. &here<s a /hole section on )uropean =AD@ sport3i7e racin+ of the early 1MG0s...runnin+ rim si9es, types and tire si9es 5ery similar to /hat /e<re tal7in+ a3out here. Ehat you<ll see is these +uys maintainin+ a full tuc7 and ma8imum possi3le cornerin+ speed, /hile $"& e5er 3rea7in+ traction at the rear. Ehat they<re sho/in+ you is /hat the race +uys /ere doin+ 3efore a +loriously insane Cmerican name of Oenny ?o3erts came alon+. Oenny /as a dirt2trac7 racer for &eam !amaha, chasin+ (and often 3eatin+) 'arleys on the lo/ly little P(;-0 modded 3alls2to2the2/all. !amaha 3uilt a top street race 3i7e (the &UG-0 t/o2stro7e triple) and as7ed Oenny to pilot the thin+ a+ainst the )uro2dominated AD circuit. Eho /ere still ridin+ around /ith the tires loc7ed do/n li7e they /ere on rails, the poor 3astards. Oenny came alon+ and said =/ell scre/ that@ and started slidin+ the rear end out. "n concrete. Ee soon learned the translations in rench, Italian, Aerman and /hae5er else for the phrase =/hat the fuc7.@. Ehat Oenny fi+ured out is that 3y the late 1MG0s these 3i+ t/o2stro7es had so much po/er that instead of maintainin+ hi+h cornerin+ speed, you could /restle <em round the turn in u+ly fashion, point them do/nran+e as Buic7ly as possi3le (5ia slidin+ the rear end) and then =pull the tri++er@, 3lastin+ out of the corner. Oenny traded hi+h cornerin+ speed for hi+h corner )PI& speed and 7ic7ed e5ery3ody<s asses for years. I no/ thin7 the reason the =fat rear tire era@ started in the race and then street /orlds soon after Oenny came alon+ had a lot to do /ith that rear2slide techniBue. B#&, and here<s /here some people are +oin+ to scream and yell at me, I ha5e to as7 /hether or not slidin+ the rear end around (deli3erately) on the street is a +ood idea. #mmm...yeah, no...it isn<t. $o/, /hen I /as youn+ and dum3 2- years a+o 4ust startin+ out, I mi+ht ha5e said =hell yeah@. But I<m HG and ha5en<t o/ned a car in o5er 2- years and I<m still here...and I<m sayin+ no. I<m still for ha5in+ some 3ac72road fun no/ and a+ain, don<t +et me /ron+. But I thin7 the +ameplan ou+ht to center around +oin+ 3ac7 to the pre2Oenny days and 7eepin+ the dan+ tires planted. Cnd if you<re +oin+ to do that, +oin+ 3ac7 to the pre2Oenny2era tires (actually the same 3asic stuff Oenny himself started on) ma7es sense. (ee, the fat tires are $"& needed for traction. I only recently learned this myself...there<s a funny counter2intuiti5e thin+ +oin+ on /ith traction. If you ta7e a 3ric7 and measure ho/ much force it ta7es to dra+ it across a par7in+ lot, you<ll +et e8actly the same measurement /hether you lay it 3road2side2do/n or on2end. ?eally. It<s the /ei+ht and the materials that matter. (o a +ood narro/ tire (emphasis on +ood C5on seems to ha5e the 3est cafe2si9e ru33er, %ime >ity has the full line) can hang right in there with the modern fat0rear0tire boys. Cnd that, fol7s, can ma7e chasin+ sBuids on rat3i7es a seriously comical ho33y.