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BEST ANSWER BrentMHK Mar 25, 2013 at 4:57 M
I'd say uprade !"enter #irst$ add t%e &'( %osts$ t%en !)otion t%e V)s to t%e new %osts' *# +ourse$ t%is
depends on your li+ensin and %ow many %osts your !"enter li+ense +an manae'
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SinaOwolabi Mar 25, 2013 at 5:02 M
Wow t%an,s Brent)H-
I# t%ey uprade !"enter$ do t%ey add t%e &'( %osts to t%e same +luster as t%e .'( %osts$ or +reate a separate
one/ And I suppose t%ey %a!e to ma,e sure t%at all !0S swit+%in on t%e .'( en!ironment is repli+ated on
t%e &'( %osts too$ +orre+t/
Is t%ere anyt%in at all spe+ial t%at t%ey need to do to prep t%e &'( %osts 1esides addin t%em to t%e +luster$
and ma,in sure li+enses are su##i+ient/
Sorry #or t%e 2uestions$ I'm 3ust tryin to 1e +ertain so t%at t%ey don't +ome a#ter me i# anyt%in 1rea,s 456
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HE789:7 8*ST James (PHD Virtual) Mar 25, 2013 at 5:1! M
8H0 Virtual is a Spi+ewor,s 8artner'
;ou +an %a!e a mi<ed +luster runnin .'(=&'( #or t%e duration o# t%e miration 1ut it's not somet%in you
want to +ontinue to run' I# it was me I would stand up a #res% &'( +luster t%en mo!e e!eryt%in o!er' I would
3ust ma,e sure your &'( %osts' storae=networ, +on#i mat+% t%e +on#i on t%e .'( %osts 1e#ore you mo!e
anyt%in o!er to t%e new +luster'
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BrentMHK Mar 25, 2013 at 5:2" M
I 3ust %a!e a !ery 1asi+ setup %ere so ot%er users will 1e 1etter 2uali#ied to answer your 2uestions'
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SinaOwolabi Mar 25, 2013 at 5:27 M
T%an,s James$ Brent>
I did tell t%em to do a #res% &'( +luster>
Wow' Now t%ey want me to do it' I# only I +ould et some %and5%oldin'''
T%an,s a lot #or t%e timely and in#ormati!e answers'
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SinaOwolabi Mar 25, 2013 at ":51 M
Sorry I %a!e an additional 2uestion to as,' Sin+e t%ey will 1e mo!in V)s #rom 07 &?@ to A?@ ser!ers$ and
t%ese 1ot% %a!e EB5CCCC Ceon pro+essors$ are t%ey +lose enou% to 1e +onsidered in t%e same pro+essor
#amily or is "8: mas,in oin to 1e in!ol!ed/
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Hi
Im wonderin w%at is t%e 1est uprade and miration pat% #rom !Sp%ere .'( to &'('
)y +lient re+ently ot new ser!ers and would li,e to install !Sp%ere &'( and mo!e t%e V)s on .'( to &'(' T%e older ser!ers are H8 07&?@s$ and t%e newer ser!ers are H8 07A?@s'
T%ey are +onne+ted to t%e same SAN 7:Ns$ and will 1e +onne+ted to t%e same datastores'
W%at is t%e 1est way to mo!e t%e V)s on t%e .'( 07 &?@ ser!ers to &'( 07 A?@s/
Is it possi1le to add t%e &'( %osts to t%e .'( !Sp%ere 0ata+enter$ and use !)otion to mo!e t%em/ W%at's t%e 1est way to do t%is wit%out downtime/
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James (PHD Virtual) Mar 25, 2013 at 7:02 M
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I'm not all t%at #amiliar wit% t%at parti+ular +%ipset so I +an't say #or sure' T%is only applies i# you do a !motion
#rom t%e .'( to &'( +luster' I would ta,e a test V) and !eri#y you +an do a !motion a+ross t%ese +lusters
wit%out issue' *n+e you et all o# t%e V)'s o!er to &'( t%en you don't %a!e to worry a1out t%is sin+e all o# t%e
%osts will 1e identi+al and no mas,in would 1e needed'
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Samui Mar 2", 2013 at 3:0! M
Be#ore per#ormin an uprade$ as, t%ese 2uestions4
(6 0o you %a!e any apps t%at are not +ompati1le wit% !Sp%ere &'(/
5 I'!e seen some medi+al imain appli+ations t%at were not +ompati1le and wound up +ausin some
per#orman+e and support issues'
D6 "%e+, t%e 1lo+, sizes o# t%e e<istin 0atastores$ and !eri#y t%em/
E6 Is t%e +ustomer usin any SS7 "erts in t%e en!ironment/
5 I# so$ and t%ey are "A "erts$ t%ey will need to 1e re+reated as t%e +yp%erin +%aned'
As mentioned pre!iously$ I aree wit% t%e ot%ers and my re+ommendation would 1e to stand up a #res% &'(
+luster' Howe!er$ t%at's w%ere I de!iate #rom t%e ot%ers'
;ou mentioned t%at t%e +urrent .'( en!ironment %as a !0S' T%at poses an o1sta+le' Is it a !mware !0S$ or
is t%is a "is+o Ne<us addin/ Eit%er way$ it's an o1sta+le' I# it is a "is+o Ne<us !(@@@$ t%en read$ read$ read
t%e uprade do+umentation' H%ttp4==pu1s'!mware'+om=!sp%ere5&(=topi+=+om'!mware'I"1ase=809=!sp%ere5
es<i5!+enter5ser!er5&(5uprade5uide'pd#6 T%e earlier re+ommendation o# doin a in5pla+e uprade may
a+tually +ause you pain and su##erin 5 as t%e uprade +ould li,ely 1rea, t%e !0S' And i# t%e V" is a V)$ t%is
may +ause you a %eada+%e tryin to reain a++ess'
*n+e t%e new &'( +luster %as 1een stood up$ %ere's %ow I would mirate t%e e<istin en!ironment'
(6 0is+onne+t t%e .'( %osts #rom t%e +urrent .'( !"enter'
D6 Add t%e %osts into a separate +luster inside t%e &'( !"enter'
I Not only does t%is pro!ide an easier way o# miratin t%e V)s$ t%is also allows you a Jturn51a+, or #ail5
1a+,J plan'
E6 Ensure t%at t%e new %osts +an see t%e same networ,s and storae t%e old %osts were usin'
.6 Wit% a non5mission +riti+al V)$ attempt a warm !motion'
I I suspe+t t%at t%e "8: #amilies will 1e di##erent enou% t%at a warm !motion will not 1e an option' I# t%at is
t%e +ase$ t%en you will need to do a +old miration H8ower o## t%e V)s and !motion t%em6'
&6 A#ter t%e V)s %a!e 1een mirated$ wait a wee, or so 1e#ore t%is step' :prade t%e V)Tools and t%e
!irtual %ardware' HT%is re2uires a re1oot o# t%e V) 5 so do it durin a maintenan+e window$ or s+%eduled
downtime #or t%e V)s'6
F6 I# you %a!e spa+e on t%e SAN$ +reate a new datastore and s!motion V)s #rom t%e old .'( 0atastores
HV)9S E6 to t%e newer &'( 0atastores HV)9S &6' ;ou +an 3ust do an in5pla+e JupradeJ o# t%e old
datastores$ %owe!er$ i# t%e 1lo+, sizes were di##erent$ t%en you may a+tually seem some possi1le
per#orman+e issues' T%is is not a 1est pra+ti+e nor re+ommended 1y V)ware'
As always$ read t%e uprade uide'
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Shawnlo Mar 2", 2013 at 7:33 M
T%is is ,ind o# interestin as I 3ust upraded a 1un+% o# my Ser!ers #rom .'( to &'(1 o!er t%e last +ouple o#
days'
)y pro+ess went li,e t%is4
:praded !"enter .'( to &'(
A#ter !"enter was upraded I t%en installed update manaer
I set up update manaer and uploaded t%e ESCi &'('@ imae to update manaers ESCi Imaes se+tion
I t%en put t%e %ost I wanted to update in maintenan+e mode HI %a!e & Ser!ers in my +luster6
*n+e t%e %ost was in maintenan+e mode I used update manaer and remediated uprades wit% t%e &'(
:prade Baseline I %ad +reated$
Ser!er did it's update +ame 1a+, up$ I t%en did t%e remediation o# t%e pat+%es 1aseline and e<ited
maintenan+e mode'
t%e pro+ess was pretty seamless wit% zero downtime$ ot%er t%an !"enter 1ein ina++essi1le #or a s%ort time'
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SinaOwolabi Mar 2!, 2013 at 12:43 M
T%is is all pretty mu+% reat in#ormation'
T%an,s a lot #or listenin and #or s%arin$ uys
T%e en!ironment doesnt %a!e a !0S as I earlier t%ou%t so I'm oin to di!e in and see %ow it oes'
*ne last t%in$ Samui''' I'm not !ery sure w%at you mean 1y4
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0o you mean t%at$ i# I %a!e upraded !"enter #rom .'( to &'($ i s%ould remo!e t%e .'( %osts #rom t%eir
!"enter and add t%em to a new +luster in t%e newly upraded !"enter$ 1e#ore I try to mo!e t%e V)s/
T%an,s>
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SinaOwolabi Mar 2!, 2013 at 12:4! M
T%e networ, is a 1it tri+,y too t%ou%'' t%e ESC .'( %osts pretty mu+% %a!e . (K1 NI"s$ w%ile t%e ESCi &'(
%osts %a!e D<(K1 NI"s$ D<(@K1 NI"s$ and D<(@KB 9i1re "%annel ports Ht%ey also %a!e SAN HBAs$ so no
networ, storae +onne+tions6'
ESC .'( %a!e D swit+%es ea+%$ !swit+%@ and !swit+%($ wit% teamin oin on'' !swit+%@ is
!m,ernelL!motion$ w%ile !swit+%( %as all t%e !irtual ma+%ine tra##i+$ !lans and w%at not'
Tryin to #iure out %ow to split teamin properly on t%e ESCi %osts NI"s'' does it ma,e sense to team
(KBand(@KB NI"/
Kettin interestin>
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Samui Mar 2!, 2013 at 4:51 M
I would not try mi<in t%e two ni+s H(K and (@K6' 0etermin %ow you want your networ, +onne+tions is
really up to you' I'm assumin you ot a new (Dt% en 0ell RFD@=BD@' I# so$ t%en your new networ, +ard is
a+tually a "NA H"on!ered Networ, Adapter6' And li,ely$ it is eit%er a Broad+om or Intel Adapter'
0ependin on my +ustomers$ w%at I'!e 1een doin wit% t%ese new "NAs$ is usin t%e (K ports #or t%e S!+
"onsole and !)otion tra##i+ and splittin t%e (@K #or iS"SI and V) Tra##i+' Sin+e you %a!e HBAs$ you
pro1a1ly aren't runnin iS"SI storae in your en!ironment' I'm also oin to assume t%at you %a!e a (@K
networ,' I# so$ t%en w%at I would re+ommend would 1e to 3ust use t%e (@K ports on t%e "NA' ;ou +ould use
N8AR HNI" 8artitionin6 wit%in t%e 1ios to +ar!e up t%e (@K adapters into . NI"s' *# +ourse$ t%is means t%at
your networ, admin will need to trun, t%e (@K ports down to your %osts wit% all !lans #or s!+ +onsole$
!motion$ and !mtra##i+'
I'd re+ommend doin t%e #ollowin4
8ort ( H(@K6
5 (K 8artition #or Ser!i+e "onsole H!mni+@6
5 EK 8artition #or !)otion H!mni+(6
5 EK 8artition #or V) Tra##i+ H!mni+D6
5 EK 8artition #or V) Tra##i+ H!mni+E6
8ort D H(@K6
5 (K 8artition #or Ser!i+e "onsole H!mni+.6
5 EK 8artition #or !)otion H!mni+&6
5 EK 8artition #or V) Tra##i+ H!mni+F6
5 EK 8artition #or V) Tra##i+ H!mni+B6
*n+e ESCi %as 1een installed$ inside t%e networ, +on#i$ you +ould t%en do t%is4
!swit+%@
!m,@ s!+ +onsole 55555M NI" Team 5 !mni+@ N !mni+. HA+ti!e=Stand1y6
!swit+%(
!m,( !)otion 555555555555M NI" Team 5 !mni+( N !mni+& HA+ti!e=Stand1y or A+ti!e A+ti!e6
!swit+%D
!mtra##i+ 5555555555555555555M NI" Team 5 !mni+D$ !mni+E$ !mni+F$ !mni+B HA+ti!e=A+ti!e=A+ti!e=A+ti!e6
*# +ourse$ t%e (@K tra##i+ may 1e o!er,ill and you may not need (DK o# 1andwidt% #or your V) data tra##i+ 5
1ut you ne!er ,now' And you +an play wit% t%e 1andwidt% le!els o# N8AR as you need' Just ,now two t%ins
5 you +an only di!ide up to .NI"s per (@K port Hie$ #our D'&K NI"s$ one (@K NI"$ two &K NI"s$ or as I did
a1o!e$ et+6' And lastly$ w%ate!er 1andwidt% you i!e to !motion$ !motion will ta,e it and use it'
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SinaOwolabi 0pr ", 2013 at 2:34 M
T%an,s a lot Samui>
I'!e de+ided to setup a test en!ironment o# sorts usin V)ware Wor,station''
I'!e setup a !Sp%ere .'@ +luster wit% two ESC.'@ %osts and a little V)' I'!e also learnt t%at t%e %osts %a!e to
%a!e t%e same num1er o# pro+essors=+ores 1e#ore t%ey +an 1e in t%e same +luster$ or on t%e same
data+enter' I'm seeminly una1le to +reate a &'( +luster wit% &'( %osts 1e+ause o# t%is' H I su++ess#ully
upraded !Sp%ere .'@ to &'@6'
Is t%ere a way o# ettin past t%is/ i dou1t i# t%e li!e en!ironment's ser!ers will %a!e t%e same
pro+essors=+ores Htryin to mirate #rom 07&?@ KF ser!ers to 07A?@ KB ser!ers'
I t%ou%t EV" was supposed to %elp to loss t%is o!er$ sin+e t%ey are all Ceon pro+essors=+ores/
I wonder i# t%is is ma,in any sense to anyone/ Any suestions/
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Samui 0pr ", 2013 at 3:5! M
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Also$ i# you are oin to turn on EV"$ +%e+, and ma,e sure t%e le!el you sele+t +o!ers your di##erent sets o#
pro+essors' I 1elie!e t%e )erom Hsp6 settin +o!ers most +pu #amiies #or intel'
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SinaOwolabi 0pr ", 2013 at 5:23 M
T%an,s' T%e !"enter isnt in t%e +luster' Ill #iddle around some more'
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John77 0pr ", 2013 at 7:34 M
Syn+%ronet is an IT ser!i+e pro!ider'
Samui wrote4
;es$ EV" is JsupposedJ to mas, t%e pro+essors' Howe!er$ i# your !+enter is a V)
inside t%e +luster$ you runnin into some Jtri+,inessJ t%at is needed to ena1le EV"'
Also$ i# you are oin to turn on EV"$ +%e+, and ma,e sure t%e le!el you sele+t
+o!ers your di##erent sets o# pro+essors' I 1elie!e t%e )erom Hsp6 settin +o!ers
most +pu #amiies #or intel'
Just note w%at %ost its on$ and +onne+t to t%e %ost dire+tly Hand ma,e sure no idiot ena1led lo+, down
mode6'
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SinaOwolabi 0pr ", 2013 at 11:51 M
Hi
I +reated a di##erent !m #or t%e !"enter ser!er t%at's on t%e same le!el as t%e %osts$ so its te+%ni+ally on an
e<ternal ser!er'
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!KD"OO Ma$ 20, 2013 at 4:53 0M
*n+e t%e new &'( +luster %as 1een stood up$ %ere's %ow I would mirate t%e e<istin en!ironment'
(6 0is+onne+t t%e .'( %osts #rom t%e +urrent .'( !"enter'
D6 Add t%e %osts into a separate +luster inside t%e &'( !"enter'
I Not only does t%is pro!ide an easier way o# miratin t%e V)s$ t%is also allows you
a Jturn51a+, or #ail51a+,J plan'
E6 Ensure t%at t%e new %osts +an see t%e same networ,s and storae t%e old %osts
were usin'
.6 Wit% a non5mission +riti+al V)$ attempt a warm !motion'
I I suspe+t t%at t%e "8: #amilies will 1e di##erent enou% t%at a warm !motion will
not 1e an option' I# t%at is t%e +ase$ t%en you will need to do a +old miration H8ower
o## t%e V)s and !motion t%em6'
&6 A#ter t%e V)s %a!e 1een mirated$ wait a wee, or so 1e#ore t%is step' :prade
t%e V)Tools and t%e !irtual %ardware' HT%is re2uires a re1oot o# t%e V) 5 so do it
durin a maintenan+e window$ or s+%eduled downtime #or t%e V)s'6
F6 I# you %a!e spa+e on t%e SAN$ +reate a new datastore and s!motion V)s #rom
t%e old .'( 0atastores HV)9S E6 to t%e newer &'( 0atastores HV)9S &6' ;ou +an
3ust do an in5pla+e JupradeJ o# t%e old datastores$ %owe!er$ i# t%e 1lo+, sizes were
di##erent$ t%en you may a+tually seem some possi1le per#orman+e issues' T%is is
not a 1est pra+ti+e nor re+ommended 1y V)ware'
As always$ read t%e uprade uide'
I am #a+ed wit% similar tas, as t%e *8' )ine is a 1it simpler sin+e I am upradin=miratin to identi+al
%ardwareO so I %a!e %omoenous en!ironments' Howe!er I need +lari#i+ation a1out some steps please'
A#ter steps ( and D$ sin+e !dSwit+% Jli!esJ in !"enter w%at %appens to t%e !dSwit+% and its port roups/ 0o
t%e port roups mo!e o!er and are !isi1le in t%e !"enter &'( a#ter I dis+onne+t=+onne+t t%e .'( %osts/ 0o I
need to #irst mimi+ t%e +on#iuration o# t%e !dSwit+% in t%e !"enter &'(/ A#ter I +onne+t a .'( %ost to !"enter
&'( will t%e V)s runnin on t%at %ost ,eep t%eir de#ined Networ, "onne+tions Hport roups6/ Just as
important 5 will t%e V)s ,eep t%eir port roups a#ter !)otion to &'( %osts/ W%at do I need to do to ma,e sure
t%ose t%ins o +orre+tly/
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