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The document discusses various technical service bulletins and updates for GM 6-speed automatic transmissions including the 6L50, 6L80, and 6L90. Common issues discussed include TCC noise in the 6L50, clutch pack specifications for the 6L50, and valve body issues for the 6L80/6L90.

The 6L50 transmission may exhibit a 'boom, vibration, or noise' when the TCC engages due to engine firing pulses being transmitted through the drivetrain. An updated calibration raises the TCC apply speed by approximately 10 mph to address this. The document also provides clutch pack travel specifications for the 6L50.

Updates made to the 6L50 transmission include reducing the oil capacity of the 1-2-3-4/3-5-R clutches by 20% in 2008 models and revising the part numbers for various clutch pistons and seals. This was done to limit the volume of oil required to stroke the pistons.

Presented by:

Steve Garrett
ATRA Presenter
6L50-6L80-6L90 Updates and Product Issues
6L50
TCC Noise and/or Vibration
Cadillac DTS may exhibit a BOOM, VIBRATION, or NOISE when TCC is applied.
The cause generally is engine firing pulses that are being transmitted through the
drive train. Updated calibration has been released raising the TCC apply speed
approximately 10 mph.
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Customer may notice a decrease in fuel economy
Clutch Backing Plate Retaining
Ring Specifications (6L50)
Clutch Pack Travel Specification1.65-2.33 mm (0.065-0.092 in)

1.98-2.08 mm 0.078-0.082 in Orange
2.28-2.38 mm 0.090-0.094 in Yellow Stripe
2.58-2.68 mm 0.102-0.106 in Light Blue Stripe
2.88-2.98 mm 0.113-0.117 in Purple Stripe
3.18-3.28 mm 0.125-0.129 in Green
Delayed Engagement, Reverse Drain Down
N-R P-R Delay
3-5-Reverse Clutch Piston Capacity Reduction - SOP 2008 model year. Oil capacity
was reduced by 20% for the 1-2-3-4/3-5-R clutches. This update limits the
volume of oil required to stroke the piston. TCM Calibration was also changed due
to this reduction of oil.
New Part Numbers:
2006-07
24234213 Reverse Clutch Piston
24248576 Seal Kit 1-2-3-4/3-5-R Drum
(Car)
24248578 - Seal Kit 1-2-3-4/3-5-R Drum
(Truck)

2008-09
24238696 3-5-R Clutch Piston
24238700 1-2-3-4 Clutch Piston
24243898 1-2-3-4/3-4-R Drum
Note: Will NOT back service
previous model years
6L50 - UPDATE
6L45/50 AWD Appl i c at i ons
Grinding Noise, No FWD, No REV
2007-2010 Cadillac (RPO MYB) STS, SRX, CTS
Note:
If the splines of the
output shaft look ok,
use 2 o-rings GM#
24251228 along with
high temperature wheel
bearing grease during
assembly.
The splines of the transmission output shaft or transfer case input shaft may be
worn (rusted) or the shaft may have broke. The splines of the transmission
output shaft have been updated with a grove for a O-Ring to help maintain the
grease located between the transfer case input shaft and the transmission
output shaft. Updated shafts require that both the output shaft and input shaft
be replaced as a set.
Most Common Cause
Is Rusted Splines
A
6L45/50 AWD Appl i c at i ons
Grinding Noise, No FWD, No REV
2007-2010 Cadillac (RPO MYB) STS, SRX, CTS (continued)
Updated Part #s
Transmission Output Shaft
(MYB-6L50) 24251229
(MYA-6L45) 96043341
Transfer Case Input Shaft
(CTS) 19256369
(STS, SRX) 19256370
(O-Rings) - 24251228

There were two other updates also made to the transmission output shaft. The
hardening process was extended into the fillet radius (where output shaft
usually breaks) and the design of the fillet changed to reduce the stress on that
area of the shaft.
Note:
Make sure the dowels are properly position during assembly, and make
sure to use the proper lubrication on the shaft splilnes
Small Fillet
Increased Fillet
6L80/6L90 (MYC, MYD)
1-2-3-4 Slip Condition, Possible No movement Forward
CONCERN: 6L80/6L90 (RPO MYC, MYD) applications built before June of
2010 may exhibit a slip condition related to the operation of the 1-2-3-4
clutch. This condition may be present in more than one forward gear or if
the condition is bad enough, it may result in a no movement forward
condition.
CAUSE: The 1-2-3-4 piston may be broken or cracked
CORRECTION: Replace the piston with the new design, The updated
piston has 22% more rib area when compared to the previous design
piston. The updated piston is sold under part number 24258159

6L80 - UPDATE
No Forward Movement
1-2-3-4/3-5-R Clutch Housing was updated mid 2007 to address a NO FORWARD
condition. The root cause is the snap ring popping out of the housing. The
housing has been updated to prevent this. Additionally the 3-5-R waved plate was
updated from 12 to 18 teeth and the 1-2-3-4 wave plate was updated from 9 to 18
teeth.
Early Plate
Illustrated
New Part Numbers:
24239828 3-5-R 18 tooth wave plate
24239615 1-2-3-4 18 tooth wave
plate
24240194
24240201 Selective Snap Rings
24241232 Clutch housing Kit
(Includes Housing and Snap Rings)
Note: Will back service previous
model years
No Forward Movement
1-2-3-4/3-5-R Clutch Housing
1-2-3-4 Clutch 3-5-Reverse Clutch
Early Illustration
6L80 - UPDATE
Clutch Shudder Condition
Low/Reverse Clutch Plates Friction update was done to improve the
Low/Reverse clutch apply (Shudder Complaint). Along with the frictions, a
calibration update is needed when back servicing units
New Part Number:
24235460 Clutch Plate
Note: Will back service previous
model years
6L80 - UPDATE
Ticking and/or Rattling Noise
2-6 Clutch Friction Material Friction design was changed from the X pattern to a
radial grove to prevent the plates from rattling.
New Part Number:
24240221 Clutch Plate
Note: Will back service previous
model years
6L80 - UPDATE
DTC P1875
IMS Out of Range IMS mid 2007, interim 2007 update. Oxidation was forming
on the contacts leading to contact resistance. The updated IMS added additional
nickel plating to the contacts and changed the lead frame to stainless steel to
reduce the contact resistance.
New Part Number:
24246427 IMS
Note: Will back service previous
model years
6L80 6L90 - UPDATE
Low Sprag Update
The Low Sprag was updated as a mid 2007, interim 2007 change. Additional
elements were added ,from 30 elements to 38 elements for greater holding
strength. Oil hole positions changed,
New Part Number:
24248957 Low Sprag
Note: Will back service
previous model years
6L80 - UPDATE
UPDATE:
An update to the 6L80 and 6L90 (RPO MYC, MYD) transmission output
ring gear and output shafts began to enter production starting with the
March 2012 applications. All 6L80/6L90 transmissions will utilize the new
design by the end of 2012. Known as a UNIGEAR design, the updated
parts will incorporate the output ring gear and the output shaft into one
assembly. The update was incorporated as a cost reduction measure
and had nothing to do with durability. The new design will backservice
the previous design applications as long as the speed sensor is replaced
with it. The updated speed sensor is a different height because of the
design of the unigear.
NOTE: If the previous design sensor is used with the Unigear design assembly
damage to the sensor WILL occur and DTCs will result as a result of the sensor
damage. If the new design sensor is used with the previous design
planetary/output shaft components Speed Sensor DTCs will result, as the air gap
will be too wide.
The speed sensors are available separately by ordering one of the following part
numbers
24265535 Previous design sensor 6L80/6L90
24265536 Updated Unigear design compatible speed sensor 6L80/6L90
The unigear assembly is available in a kit which also includes the new design
sensor. Several part numbers are available for the kits depending on the length of
the output shaft and the shaft spine count. To determine which Unigear or kit is
required for you application, you will need to provide your VIN code to your parts
person as the parts are VIN specific.
Park Pawl Actuator Guide
Assembly 6L50 6L80 6L90
Update was related to supplier
Request, to improve production
Volume. Part number changed
For all models
Manual Shaft Pin Update 6L50 6L80 6L90

Length changed 5mm (.19), taper changed 2.5mm (.09)
Part numbers were updated, shaft will backservice
Spacer Plate and Valve Body Spring Updates
There have been 2 changes in the spacer plates used for the 6L80 starting in mid
2007 as a 2007 interim change adding an exhaust and a parallel path for a lube
circuit bleed. In Mid 2008, interim 2008 change has also occurred to address a
P0751 code. The spring load on the clutch select valves was lowered to allow the
valves to move at a lower pressure reducing tendency of the P0751 code to set.
These springs are not available individually.
New Part Numbers:
2006-07
24245720 Spacer Plate
24250384 Lower Valve
Body with spring updates
Note: Will back service
previous model years
6L80 - UPDATE
6L80/6L90 2009 and earlier 242457520
6L80/6L90 2010 and later with updated
valve bodies 24261077
All Variants Lwr Vlv Body Asm 24250384 24251431
6L45 Upr Vlv Body Asm None-Launched W/New Design 96043296
6L50 Upr Vlv Body Asm 96043348 96043298
6L80 Upr Vlv Body Asm 24231442 24240961
6L90 Upr Vlv Body Asm 24226709 24240953
2009 prior 2010 Later
Spacer Plate Update
6L50/80/90
DTCs P1825, P182E, P1915
Mode Switch Codes Chevrolet, Cadillac, GMC, Hummer and Pontiac vehicles may
have any of these codes set along with the PRNDL display not functioning. These
DTCs will set if the following conditions occur:
P1825 will set if:
IMS range A is Low while in D6
range for m ore than 8 seconds
IMS range C is High while in D6
range for more than 8 seconds
IMS range A, B, P are Low while in
Park range for more than 1 second
P/N switch indicates park/neutral
but the IMS shows a range other than
P/N
IMS indicates a INVALID range for
more than 3.25 seconds
VSS greater than 10 MPH
P0722 or P0723 not set
P1915 will set if:
Engine speed is greater than 525
RPM for more than 3.25 seconds
The transmission input shaft speed
is greater than 250 RPM
Transmission output speed less than
90 RPM
IMS voltage sequence does not
follow the designed state
6L50/80/90
DTCs P1825, P182E, P1915
Mode Switch Codes If P1825, P1915, or P182E set, the TCM will:
Command MAX line pressure
Turn off all solenoids resulting in 3
rd
or 6
th
gear default
Freeze shift adapts
Gear Position Selected Scan Value IMS Position P/N Switch PRNDL
PARK L/H/H/L PARK P/N PARK
PARK/REVERSE L/L/H/L ---------- IN GEAR BLANK
REVERSE L/L/H/H REVERSE IN GEAR REVERSE
REVERSE/NEUTRAL H/L/H/L ---------- IN GEAR BLANK
NEUTRAL H/L/H/L NEUTRAL P/N NEUTRAL
NEUTRAL/D6 H/L/L/H ---------- IN GEAR BLANK
D6 H/L/L/H D6 IN GEAR DRIVE
D6/D4 L/L/L/H ------------ IN GEAR BLANK
D4 L/L/L/L D4 IN GEAR MANUAL
D4/D3 L/H/L/L ------------ IN GEAR BLANK
D3 L/H/L/H D3 IN GEAR D3
D3/D2 H/H/L/H ------------- IN GEAR BLANK
D2 H/H/L/L D2 IN GEAR D2
INVALID H/H/H/L INVALID IN GEAR BLANK
INVALID L/H/H/H INVALID IN GEAR BLANK
INVALID H/H/H/H INVALID IN GEAR BLANK
Monitor switch states
with scan tool data.
If switch states are proper,
look at the following
areas:
Shift Cable
Shift Lever
Rooster comb / detent
assembly
TCM Calibrations
Replace IMS with new
design switch
Continued
6L50/80/90
DTCs P0751
SS1 Solenoid Performance, Stuck Off
P0751 will set if:
No DTCs P0716, P0717, P0722, P0723, P1915 or P1825 are set
First gear is commanded
Commanded gear is 1
st
and the gear ratio indicates 4
th
or slip exceeds 35 RPM
for .5 - 1.05 seconds
Use SCAN TOOL solenoid cleansing procedures covered in past ATRA seminars,
while in vehicle. Do solenoid test with scan tool and TEST PLATE on the bench
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Several Causes for P0751
Debris in pan
Cracks in filter
Debris in Separator plate as well as check ball problems
Clutch Select valve #2 bore plug improper size
CBR1/C456 regulator valve sticking
Calibration updates
Updated Separator Plate and Valve Body Springs (previously covered)
Updated Spacer Plates All Models
For a P0751
24245720
(2007-08 MYD) (2008 MYB, MYC) Plate,
Control Valve Spacer
24246916
(2006-2007 MYC) Plate, Control Valve
Spacer
24246917
(2007 MYB) Plate, Control Valve Spacer
24236934
(MYC, MYD) Plate Kit, Control Solenoid
Valve Filter
24238925
(MYB) Plate Kit, Control Solenoid Valve
Filter
6L50/80/90
DTCs P0751
SS1 Solenoid Performance, Stuck Off
Continued
CBR1/C456
Regulator Valve
(Sticking/Dragging)
Clutch Select #2 Bore
plug must be
11.502mm (0.453)
+/- .004mm (0.002)
6L80 6L90
No or Slipping 3
rd
, 5
th
, and Reverse
Flair on the 2-3 Shift
Tahoe, Suburban, C/K Trucks
Common Problem areas for these concerns:
3-5 Regulator Valve Sticking. (Upper Valve Body)
Leak in the 3-5-Rev Drum (air test using soapy water)
6L80/6L90
Slips in Reverse, 3
rd
, 5
th
P0776 Possibly Set, Cracked Drum
6L80 (RPO MYC) and 6L90 (RPO MYD) transmissions equipped in the GM C/K full size trucks and
SUVs, Cadillac D body (STS-V) and the Cadillac/Chevrolet Y body (XLR, Corvette) may experience
any or all of the following complaints.
Slips in Reverse
Slips in 3rd
Slips in 5th
Delayed Reverse Engagement
Intermittent Hard Shifts into 3rd and/or 5th
Problems change severity with transmission temp change
P0776 DTC may set

1-2-3-4 / 3-5-R Clutch Pump Cover Seal Update P0776 Slip
Design Change for mid 2009, Interim 2009. Update includes the grooves and
seals that are located on the back of the pump cover. Update addresss 2-3 shift
complaints. The depth of the groove is deeper to allow for a rubber o-ring under
the seal.

Part Numbers:
24248581 Seal Kit (Old Design)
24248559 Seal Kit (New Design)
24248573 Pump Cover and Seal Kit
6L80-6L90 - UPDATE
6L80 6L90
No or Slipping 3
rd
, 5
th
, and Reverse
Flair on the 2-3 Shift
Tahoe, Suburban, C/K Trucks
In addition, may have code P0776 (Clutch Pressure Control (PC)-Stuck Off)
P0776 will set if:
P0716, P0717, P0722, P0723, P1825 are NOT set
TFT greater than 32 deg. F ((0 deg. C)
High side Driver 1 is operational
Driven wheel speed greater than 80 RPM
Driven and Non Driven wheel speeds are within 150 RPM
Input speed greater than 60 RPM
PCS 2 is ON
3
rd
or 5
th
gear ratio has been achieved
TCM detects an incorrect on-coming clutch gear ratio, flare when the 3-5-R
clutch is commanded ON for 2.25 seconds and the transmission input shaft
speed is greater than 60 to 100 RPM from the anticipated input shaft speed
When P0766 sets the TCM will: Command Max. Line Pressure, Inhibit TCC, and
Freeze the shift adapts.
6L80 6L90
No or Slipping 3
rd
, 5
th
, and Reverse
Flair on the 2-3 Shift
Tahoe, Suburban, C/K Trucks (continued)
Common Problem areas for these concerns:
3-5 Regulator Valve Sticking. (Upper Valve Body)
Park Pawl Rod 6L80-6L90 Update
Update was designed
To address No Park
Concerns
08 and earlier
Heavier duty rod,
Updated part #
Will backservice
6L80
New Valve Body Bolts
Inverted #50 Torx Plus Bolts
There are six new inverted #50 Torx Plus bolts used on late model 6L80
transmission valve body. If the tool is Unavailable at the time of inspection, use
a bell housing bolt from a 4L60E late model (#50 Torx) along with a couple of
jam nuts to assembly a tool that will work as a substitute.
6L80
Intermittent Harsh Downshift, Chuggle or Shudder
During Deceleration 5.3L
Tahoe, Suburban, C/K Trucks
Customer complaint may be harsh forced downshifts or the chuggle/shudder
during a coast down intermittently.
This is considered Normal with this powertrain package. It is a self test for the
O2 sensors.
Test runs with the vehicle speed above 45 MPH (72 kph) in 6
th
gear with the TCC
applied. The ECM drives the fuel system rich and then into deceleration fuel
cutoff mode (shutting the injectors off) to check the system. Test will end during
the deceleration and fuel is restored. (This typically causes the
Shudder/Chuggle shift feel in the vehicle).
Aggressive throttle response during this system check mode will cause the
vehicle to have a Harsh downshift (this happens because the TCC remains
applied during the test).
If the test runs while in 5
th
gear, the TCC will not be applied and the complaint
will not likely occur.
Note: The test is designed to occur one time per key cycle, but can run up to 10
times if aborted due to throttle input.
6L80 or 6L90
Transmission Overtemp Indicated. Possible DTC set
Inspect the cooler lines for a restriction. In many instances, the cooler lines are kinked close to
the radiator leading to the restriction. If the fluid appears to be distressed you may need to
repair damage that may have occurred to the transmission. If the cooler lines are kinked try to
straighten them. If the lines have been operating with a kink in them for some time, you may
find it necessary to replace them as the restriction from the kink may cause the restriction to
take a set in the line.
C/K Full Size
Trucks With
6L80 Or
6L90
6L80 or 6L90
Slipping, No Forward or Reverse
The filter may have developed a crack leading to air ingestion in the hydraulic circuits. This
condition has been found on the OE as well as some aftermarket filter designs. Closely inspect
the filter for cracks and separation in the seam area of the filter. Upon inspection of the filter, if a
crack or damage is found, you may need to disassemble the pump and inspect it for damage.
Replace the filter and any damaged pump components.
Some 6L80
(C/K/G
Trucks/Vans, Y,
F and D cars
(RPO MYC)) and
6L90 (C/K/G
Truck/ Vans
(RPO MYD)
transmissions
6L80/6L90
P0756, P0766, P0796, P2714, P2723
Clutch Pressure Control Solenoid Stuck Off Codes Caused by
Valve Body Issues
DO NOT REPLACE TEHCM FOR THESE CODES!
Common to all the DTCs:
Check balls not sealing on the spacer plate.
Spacer plate damaged, worn check ball holes.
Bore plugs undersized or the incorrect bore plug was used. Bore plugs
should measure 0.4528" +/- 0.0001" or 11.502mm +/- 0.004mm.
Debris
Cracks in the suspect drum or seal leakage feeding the suspect drum.
Specific DTC Inspection:
P0756 Inspect the Clutch select valve #3 in the lower valve body for
evidence of wear and sticking.
P0776 Inspect the 3-5-R clutch regulator valve in the upper valve
body for evidence of wear and sticking. Inspect the 3-6 reverse drum for
cracks, inspect the seals for leakage.
P0796 Inspect the CBR1/4-5-6 clutch regulator valve in the upper
valve body for evidence of wear and sticking. Inspect the seals/circuit
for leakage.
P2714 Inspect the 2-6 clutch regulator valve in the upper valve body
for evidence of wear and sticking. Inspect the seals/circuit for leakage.
P2723 Inspect the 1-2-3-4 clutch regulator valve in the upper valve
body for evidence of wear and sticking. Inspect the seals/circuit for
leakage.

6L80/6L90
P0756, P0766, P0796, P2714, P2723
Clutch Pressure Control Solenoid Stuck Off Codes Caused by
Valve Body Issues
6L80/6L90
P0756, P0766, P0796, P2714, P2723
Clutch Pressure Control Solenoid Stuck Off Codes Caused by
Valve Body Issues (continued)
Clutch Select Valve #3
Clutch Select Valve #2
6L80/6L90
P0756, P0766, P0796, P2714, P2723
Clutch Pressure Control Solenoid Stuck Off Codes Caused by
Valve Body Issues (continued)
6L80/6L90 (MYC, MYD)
Exc essi ve TCC Sl i p, Possi bl e DTC P0741

CONCERN: On high mileage 6L80/6L90 (RPO MYC, MYD) applications a
excessive TCC slip condition may occur. This condition may/may not set a code
P0741.
CAUSE: The TCC friction material is delaminating. The root cause of this
concern has not yet been determined.

REPAIR: To repair the concern, replace the torque converter.
CONCERN: Some 6L80/6L90 (RPO MYC, MYD) transmissions may exhibit
a growling or rumble type noise from the transmission. The noise may
change depending on the gear the transmission is in.
CAUSE: Inspect the input planetary carrier for damage to the teeth. Even
when a noise is not present the technician should always inspect the
planetary for physical damage. The race on Bearing #54 may be broken.
Parts of the race may have gotten into the planetary which can lead to
gear damage.
REPAIR: Replace the damaged planetary components and bearings.

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