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    The document discusses different engine control units (ECUs) used by MTU engines and their compatibility with DSE controllers when configured correctly via J1939. It provides details on the functionality, wiring connections and CAN configuration for the ADEC, MDEC, and ECU8 ECUs to allow engine control and diagnostics through the DSE controller. Wiring diagrams and notes are given to illustrate the connections between the ECUs, DSE controller terminals, and any additional display modules involved.

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    The document discusses different engine control units (ECUs) used by MTU engines and their compatibility with DSE controllers when configured correctly via J1939. It provides details on the functionality, wiring connections and CAN configuration for the ADEC, MDEC, and ECU8 ECUs to allow engine control and diagnostics through the DSE controller. Wiring diagrams and notes are given to illustrate the connections between the ECUs, DSE controller terminals, and any additional display modules involved.

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    The document discusses different engine control units (ECUs) used by MTU engines and their compatibility with DSE controllers when configured correctly via J1939. It provides details on the functionality, wiring connections and CAN configuration for the ADEC, MDEC, and ECU8 ECUs to allow engine control and diagnostics through the DSE controller. Wiring diagrams and notes are given to illustrate the connections between the ECUs, DSE controller terminals, and any additional display modules involved.

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    The document discusses different engine control units (ECUs) used by MTU engines and their compatibility with DSE controllers when configured correctly via J1939. It provides details on the functionality, wiring connections and CAN configuration for the ADEC, MDEC, and ECU8 ECUs to allow engine control and diagnostics through the DSE controller. Wiring diagrams and notes are given to illustrate the connections between the ECUs, DSE controller terminals, and any additional display modules involved.

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    MTU and DSE Controllers

    15 MTU
    Engines in the MTU range are split into subgroups depending upon the type of engine governing are employed. These different systems are fully compatible with the DSE Controllers when configured correctly and can allow engine control and diagnostics via the J1939 link. We have collated the following data for the electronically governed engines.

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    15.1 ADEC

    ADEC ECU Mounted on the engine

    SAM module mounted in the customer panel

    15.1.1 ECU FUNCTIONALITY


    ADEC FUNCTIONALITY MODBUS Engine Hours MODBUS Oil Pressure MODBUS Coolant Temperature MODBUS Engine RPM MODBUS Charge Alt MODBUS Speed Feed Engine speed Oil Pressure Coolant Temperature Battery Voltage Charge Alternator Voltage Engine Hours Number of Starts Oil Temperature Coolant Pressure Inlet Temperature Exhaust Temperature Fuel Temperature Turbo Pressure Fuel Pressure Fuel Consumption Fuel Used Atmospheric Pressure Water in Fuel ADEC FUNCTIONALITY DM1 Conv. Method DM1 Ignored DM1 Amber DM1 Red DM1 Protect DM1 Malfunction Start Stop 1500/1800 switch Idle Mode Speed Control Source address ECU Power ECU Stop J1939 msg Proprietary msg Notes DTC Ignore 4

    DSE DSE DSE

    0x1 &delay OHECS, RQST, EBC1, CCVS, TSC1 mtu_LS, mtu_SDS, mtu_CONT ECU permanently powered.

    LEGEND Function supported Not supported DSE controller measures/calculates the value

    DSE

    15.1.2 ECU WIRING


    DSE TERMINAL DESCRIPTION Fuel Relay Output Start Relay Output CANbus common CANbus H CANbus L MTU ADEC TERMINAL X1 37 X1 43 1 (Hi) 2 (Lo) MTU SAM TERMINAL X23 3 X23 2 X23 1 NOTES Start input of ADEC (DI 7). Connect X1 22 to GND This terminal is optional. Start command is also sent by CAN message. Stop input of ADEC (DI 1). Connect X1 28 to GND Screen for the J1939 cable. Connect at one end only. J1939 + Use only screened 120 impedance cable approved specifically for use in CANbus applications. J1939 Use only screened 120 impedance cable approved specifically for use in CANbus applications.

    NOTE:NOTE:- The ADEC ECU is designed to be permanently powered via the emergency emergency stop button on the control panel. NOTE:NOTE:- Cranking of the engine is managed by the ADEC controller following instruction from the DSE controller. NOTE:NOTE:-The ADEC ECU has to be used with in conjunction with the MTU SAM display module.

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    15.1.3 CAN CONFIGURATION


    Information regarding these configuration parameters can be found in the products software manual, please refer to section entitled Bibliography for more details.

    15.1.3.1 DSE CONFIGURATION SUITE SOFTWARE


    These settings are only applicable to DSE controllers which use the DSE Configuration Suite Software. This comprises of the DSE31xx, DSE44xx, DSE6xxx, DSE71xx, DSE72xx, DSE73xx and DSE8xxx series of controllers. The DSE controller must be configured for the MTU ADEC CAN file.

    15.1.3.2 DSE5XXX/75XX PC SOFTWARE


    These settings are only applicable to DSE controllers which use the DSE5xxx and DSE75xx PC Software. This comprises the DSE5xxx and DSE75xx series of controllers. The DSE controller must be configured for the mtu-ADEC CAN file.

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    15.2 MDEC

    15.2.1 ECU FUNCTIONALITY


    MDEC FUNCTIONALITY MODBUS Engine Hours MODBUS Oil Pressure MODBUS Coolant Temperature MODBUS Engine RPM MODBUS Charge Alt MODBUS Speed Feed Engine speed Oil Pressure Coolant Temperature Battery Voltage Charge Alternator Voltage Engine Hours Number of Starts Oil Temperature Coolant Pressure Inlet Temperature Exhaust Temperature Fuel Temperature Turbo Pressure Fuel Pressure Fuel Consumption Fuel Used Atmospheric Pressure Water in Fuel MDEC FUNCTIONALITY DM1 Conv. Method DM1 Ignored DM1 Amber DM1 Red DM1 Protect DM1 Malfunction Start Stop 1500/1800 switch Idle Mode Speed Control Source address ECU Power ECU Stop J1939 msg Proprietary msg Notes DTC Ignore N/A

    (Not available when using MTU MDEC 303)

    DSE

    DSE

    N/A &delay N/A N/A ECU permanently powered.

    LEGEND Function supported Not supported DSE controller measures/calculates the value

    DSE

    15.2.2 ECU WIRING


    DSE TERMINAL DESCRIPTION Fuel Relay Output Start Relay Output CANbus common CANbus H CANbus L MTU MDEC X1 CONNECTER TERMINAL BE9 BE1 E G F NOTES Start input of MDEC Run input of MDEC Screen for the J1939 cable. Connect at one end only. J1939 + Use only screened 120 impedance cable approved specifically for use in CANbus applications. J1939 Use only screened 120 impedance cable approved specifically for use in CANbus applications.

    NOTE:NOTE:-The MDEC ECU is designed to be permanently powered however the DSE controller can be configured to switch the ECU power by configuring an Auxiliary output to be ECU power. This output should be used to control the ECU power relay and will turn off the MDEC ECU when the DSE controller is placed into STOP/RESET mode. Note that using this method, the MDEC mode.

    ECU takes approximately 30 seconds to power up once the DSE controller is taken out of STOP/RESET

    NOTE:NOTE:-Cranking of the engine is managed by the MDEC controller following instruction from the DSE controller. NOTE:NOTE:-The MTU engine can be used with or without the MTU PIM display module. Ensure that MTU are informed prior to the despatch of your engine whether or not you intend to fit fit the PIM module and also that you require CAN for connection to the DSE controller. This will ensure that you receive the engine with the relevant options enabled. Incorrectly set options for PIM and and secondary CAN controller may lead to CAN 1 NODE LOST 180 errors displayed by the DSE module (and MTU PIM module) NOTE:NOTE:-DSE55xx, DSE55xx, DSE75xx DSE75xx and DSE8xxx DSE8xxx can perform synchronising and loadsharing using CAN instructions to the engine ECU when using the MTUMTU-MDECMDEC-304 configuration file in conjunction with compatible compatible MDEC controllers. If in doubt about the MDEC version you have, you are referred to MTU. NOTE:NOTE:-MDEC Speed control is configurable. Ensure it is set to receive speed control signals via the CAN interface.

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    15.2.3 CAN CONFIGURATION


    Information regarding these configuration parameters can be found in the products software manual, please refer to section entitled Bibliography for more details.

    15.2.3.1 DSE CONFIGURATION SUITE SOFTWARE


    These settings are only applicable to DSE controllers which use the DSE Configuration Suite Software. This comprises of the DSE31xx, DSE44xx, DSE6xxx, DSE71xx, DSE72xx, DSE73xx and DSE8xxx series of controllers. Using the MTU MDEC303 CAN file with a version 304 MDEC a warning error code SD CAN SPEED DEMAND 250 will be displayed on the DSE controller (and MTU PIM module). Speed control is not available using the MTU MDEC303 CAN file. If in doubt about the MDEC version you have, you are referred to MTU. When using the MTU MDEC304 CAN file, speed control is available. If in doubt about the MDEC version you have, you are referred to MTU.

    When using the MTU MDEC504 CAN file, speed control is available. If in doubt about the MDEC version you have, you are referred to MTU.

    Using the MTU MDEC304 CAN file and above will require a SW1 setting of 5.0 and an SW2 setting of 4.0. This setting is only applicable with DSE Load Share Controllers and will need fine tuning during the DSE Four Steps to Successful Synchronisation Commissioning steps.

    15.2.3.2 DSE5XXX/75XX PC SOFTWARE


    These settings are only applicable to DSE controllers which use the DSE5xxx and DSE75xx PC Software. This comprises the DSE5xxx and DSE75xx series of controllers. Using the mtu-MDEC-303 CAN file with a version 304 MDEC, a warning error code SD CAN SPEED DEMAND 250 will be displayed on the DSE controller (and MTU PIM module). Speed control is not available using the mtu-MDEC-303 CAN file When using the mtu-MDEC-304 CAN file, speed control is available.

    NOTE:NOTE:- The mtumtu-MDECMDEC-506 CAN file is not currently available for the DSE5xxx and DSE75xxx range of modules. Please contact the DSE Technical Support Department for more information. Using the MTU MDEC304 CAN file and above will require a SW1 setting of 5.0 and an SW2 setting of 4.0. This setting is only applicable with DSE Load Share Controllers and will need fine tuning during the DSE Four Steps to Successful Synchronisation Commissioning steps. Ensure crank disconnect on Charge Alternator Voltage is disabled (not checked).

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    15.3 ECU8

    ECU8 Mounted on the engine

    Smart Connect module mounted in the customer panel

    15.3.1 ECU FUNCTIONALITY


    ECU8 FUNCTIONALITY MODBUS Engine Hours MODBUS Oil Pressure MODBUS Coolant Temperature MODBUS Engine RPM MODBUS Charge Alt MODBUS Speed Feed Engine speed Oil Pressure Coolant Temperature Battery Voltage Charge Alternator Voltage Engine Hours Number of Starts Oil Temperature Coolant Pressure Inlet Temperature Exhaust Temperature Fuel Temperature Turbo Pressure Fuel Pressure Fuel Consumption Fuel Used Atmospheric Pressure Water in Fuel ECU8 FUNCTIONALITY DM1 Conv. Method DM1 Ignored DM1 Amber DM1 Red DM1 Protect DM1 Malfunction Start Stop 1500/1800 switch Idle Mode Speed Control Source address ECU Power ECU Stop J1939 msg Proprietary msg Notes DTC Ignore N/A

    DSE DSE DSE

    0x01 &delay OHECS, RQST, EBC1, CCVS, TSC1 mtu_LS, mtu_SDS, mtu_CONT

    LEGEND Function supported Not supported DSE controller measures/calculates the value

    DSE

    15.3.2 ECU WIRING


    DSE TERMINAL DESCRIPTION ECU8 X1 CONNECTOR TERMINAL NOTES External relay used to close terminal 31 to terminal 32. NOTE:NOTE:- On applicable modules, configure the Fuel Relay Output to CAN ECU 31, 32

    Fuel Relay Output

    Power. Power.
    CAUTION! CAUTION!: UTION!:- An external slave relay will be needed. Check Check the current consumption and specify relay accordingly. accordingly.

    DSE TERMINAL DESCRIPTION CANbus common CANbus H CANbus L

    SMART CONNECT X4 CONNECTOR TERMINAL 3 1 2

    NOTES Screen for the J1939 cable. Connect at one end only. J1939 + Use only screened 120 impedance cable approved specifically for use in CANbus applications. J1939 Use only screened 120 impedance cable approved specifically for use in CANbus applications.

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    15.3.3 CAN CONFIGURATION


    Information regarding these configuration parameters can be found in the products software manual, please refer to section entitled Bibliography for more details.

    15.3.3.1 DSE CONFIGURATION SUITE SOFTWARE


    These settings are only applicable to DSE controllers which use the DSE Configuration Suite Software. This comprises of the DSE31xx, DSE44xx, DSE6xxx, DSE71xx, DSE72xx, DSE73xx and DSE8xxx series of controllers. The DSE controller must be configured for the MTU ECU8 CAN file.

    Using the MTU ECU8 CAN file will require a SW1 setting of 5.0 and an SW2 setting of 4.0. This setting is only applicable with DSE Load Share Controllers and will need fine tuning during the DSE Four Steps to Successful Synchronisation Commissioning steps.

    15.3.3.2 DSE5XXX/75XX PC SOFTWARE


    These settings are only applicable to DSE controllers which use the DSE5xxx and DSE75xx PC Software. This comprises the DSE5xxx and DSE75xx series of controllers.

    NOTE:NOTE:- The MTU ECU8 CAN file is not currently available for the DSE5xxx and DSE75xxx range of modules. Please contact the DSE Technical Support Department for more information.

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