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Robert Molenberghs
Destructive Attribute MSA (Measurement System Analysis)

17th March 2009 06:15 AM

I would like to have some information from a collegua who has done a destructive atrributive measurement system analysis. I've used the search function, but this was not helping me. Maybe someone has done a similar study. I know the normal attributive study and a destructive study when you can measure something. But wath about a destructive atrributive measurement system. Example : operator has to to a test and afterwards he has to check the sample visual to decide it is OK or NOK. Thanks in advance. :bigwave:

Stijloor
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17th March 2009 06:25 AM

In Reply to Parent Post by Robert Molenberghs (Post 303245) I would like to have some information from a collegua who has done a destructive atrributive measurement system analysis. I've used the search function, but this was not helping me. Maybe someone has done a similar study. I know the normal attributive study and a destructive study when you can measure something. But wath about a destructive atrributive measurement system. Example : operator has to to a test and afterwards he has to check the sample visual to decide it is OK or NOK. Thanks in advance. :bigwave:

Robert, Have you looked at the links at the bottom of this page? Stijloor.
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Marc
Re: Destructive attributive MSA

17th March 2009 06:32 AM

You might want to take a look at How to conduct destructive measurement system analysis (MSA). It's an old, rather short thread, but has some useful info. Here are some exciting discussion threads related to Destructive Testing. Don't hesitate to ask if you have more specific questions.

Robert Molenberghs
Re: Destructive Attribute MSA (Measurement System Analysis) Hi Stijloor,

17th March 2009 06:34 AM

Thanks for your reaction. Yes I did check them. But it is about a normal destruction study so you have variable data or it is about a normal attributive study where you can judge the same sample more then once. i'm looking for the combination.

Howard Atkins
Re: Destructive Attribute MSA (Measurement System Analysis)
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17th March 2009 07:38 AM

Please find an article in the attachment

Robert Molenberghs
Re: Destructive Attribute MSA (Measurement System Analysis)

17th March 2009 09:33 AM

Hi All Thanks for your information. Interesting, but not exactly wath I'm looking for; I can not put a number on my measuring result is is o go - no go decission on a destructive test. ;)

rtfmpliz
Re: Destructive Attribute MSA (Measurement System Analysis)

18th October 2013 12:58 AM

I still have this case now, and we still find some enlightenment.we have deadline until Feb 2014. I hope i'll find it soon sorry for my bad english wahyu

Bev D
Re: Destructive Attribute MSA (Measurement System Analysis)

18th October 2013 05:54 AM

if you are performing a visual inspection after the destruct test and the sample doesn't change
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substantially after the destruct test you can simply perform the visual MSA as you normally would. collect the appropriate number of parts, good, bad and marginal, randomly present the parts to the inspector(s) twice and perform the calculations...

rtfmpliz
Re: Destructive Attribute MSA (Measurement System Analysis) thank you Bev D, that's a good basic theory My superior already granted the permission to try this out. I hope it could satisfy our auditor :D sorry for my bad english wahyu ------------U aren't rich enough, if U unpossessed a scooter :P

20th October 2013 11:43 PM

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