How To Mic A Sitar
How To Mic A Sitar
There are basically 3 main ways to mic a sitar: using a condenser microphone, a
dynamic microphone, or a transducer. She short answer is: use a condenser
mic for studio recording, a dynamic mic for live performing, and a transducer
when playing with a band or other instruments to avoid feedback.
The solution that that lot of sitarists employ for difficult-to-mic environments,
such as playing with a band, is to use a transducer (also known as a pickup.)
(McIntyre HD-98 shown above)
Finally, if you are performing sitar with a band, consider routing your transducer
and preamp to a small on-stage amplifier, and then miking the amp. This will
allow you monitor your sound, so you can hear it properly over other
instruments that might have amps on stage as well, such as electric guitars.
Acoustic amplifiers, like the Laney A1, are ideal this, but certain valve guitar
amps, like the Epiphone Valve Junior, produce stunning results.
The bottom line is, use a microphone wherever possible for the best natural sitar
sound, but in very difficult-to-mic environments, such as when playing with
other, loud instruments in a live environment, transducers are a good quick fix
and often essential.
Transducers:
This is a lot of gear. How much of it do you really need? Ideally, one condenser
mic, one dynamic, a transducer and a preamp. That will cover every sound
situation that you’re likely to find yourself in.
However, this can become very expensive very quickly. You may want to
consider starting with a Sennheiser MD421. It’s a great general purpose mic
that will stand you well for recording and is ideal for live performances. From
there, consider purchasing a condenser mic if you’re going to be doing a lot of
studio recording, or a transducer and preamp if you do a lot of live performing.
On second thought, a possibly better, and certainly more inspired first purchase
might be a Rode NT 3. It has unsurpassed brilliance, depth and clarity. And,
because it is highly directional, it is very resistant to feedback on stage, making
it a great performance microphone for classical performances with a tabla or
with a small acoustic ensemble. You may struggle a bit with feedback problems
at a loud rock or pop performance with other electric instruments on stage, but
a transducer in your back pocket would cover you in those situations.
I know several people who use these transducers live, because they want to
avoid the hassle of setting up a mike, plus they are less sensitive to feedback,
but sound wise mikes can't be beaten. Have you ever seen them being used in a
recording? I doubt it.....
What is the XY configuration that Remco refers to? It’s a studio recording
technique to produce a basic stereo effect. Here’s what Wikipedia has to say
on the subject:
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I work in music and prosound here in Tucson, so I get to try just about
everything! I use a transducer for performing in a small room where I know the
speakers are going to be close and feedback is going to be a problem. However,
it is true, as several have said, that sound-wise a mic will always sound better
than a transducer on a sitar. So these factors have to be weighed. Condensers
sound great, have better harmonic pickup and clearer highs but will feedback
very easily compared to dynamics (like Shure 57's and 58's). Dynamics need to
be much closer to the instrument while condensers can be set back a bit. This is
why you will often see dynamics used for concerts but recording studios almost
always will use a condenser, where feedback and gain is not an issue.
XY is where you have the heads of the two mics almost touching but angled 90
degrees to each other. Very easy, simple stereo configuration. They must be
back away from the instrument and again are better in a studio. Hope that clears
some stuff up (Pencil mics are just very thin straight mics- nothing to do with
sound description).”
http://www.d-tar.com/ac_sitar.shtmland
For the pre-amp (I highly suggest getting the one I use because it can sit right
beside you and you have EQ/Volume etc at your fingertips which is needed)
I use - L.R. Baggs paracoustic DI
http://www.acousticmusicshop.com/lookupItemByCategoryID.do?element=9
(just scroll down, its 3rd from the bottom and has a pic)
If you think you only want to go the mic route. Keep in mind that even if you buy
the best mic on the market... the sound will differ depending on what type of P/A
system, speakers etc. you are using. If you have a $1000 mic and put it through a
$50 p/a.. you will get a $50 sound. So what Im trying to say is that... your p/a,
speaker system is just as important to your sound as the mic would be and if you
want to buy all of this equipment it is going to cost $1000+. ?
If you plan recording.. than you can just go and rent the best mic from the music
store if the recording studio doesn’t have one for you (which they should).
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Here’s Mike T’s experience with a very complicated live recording setup:
The last group I worked with that featured tabla, sitar & harmonium
were the accompanists for a traditional Indian Kathak dancer. They
were first-rate players, knew their stuff, and knew what they wanted.
They also did not want much in their monitors, because they understood
the drawbacks to that.
I used a single C451EB over the tablas, another C451EB, not too close,
on the sitar, and an SM57 on the harmonium. If I had more small-diaphragm
condensers, I would have used them.
I used two PZM at the downstage edge of the dance floor to pick up the
dancer's feet and ankle bells. He did percussion duets and traded
licks with the tabla player, who led the accompanists.
The musicians sat on a low, carpeted riser downstage right, facing the
dancer downstage centre.
KM184 on the sitar, aimed at the face plate of the resonator, below
the player's right hand.
If the sitar has a second resonant gourd on the neck, you might aim an
SM57 at it and used about 6 dB less of this than of the KM184 on the
main resonator.
The harmonium is easy. Mic from above, SM57. Back off enough to get
the whole instrument. Adjust balance between bass and treble by moving
the SM57. The mid range will be emphasized, but that's OK. Use two
SM57 if you must get them in close to the instrument, but it's better
to use one mic at a greater distance ... unless they insist on loud
monitors.
IF you have a Kathak dancer (and I don't know much about Turkish
music), the foot percussion is very important. It will be the fourth
instrument. I would suggest two SM57 on very short stands, downstage L
& R, pointed at the dancer's feet. I panned them slightly L & R in our
house PA, and it gave the audience a nice sense of the dancer's
movement.
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The hands down best recording of a sitar I've ever heard was done with 2
EAR mics in Blumlein and an EAR 824 - these recordings are actually how I
got involved with EAR.
But you don't have those. I've also had good results with KM-54s and
U-67s. But you don't have those. Your best bet is the C-12 and move it
around until you find the best balance. The upper mid peak of Neumann is
very complimentary to the sound of thin wood and gourds and sympathetic
strings. But the more general rising top end of a C-12 can still be
beautiful if you find the right spot. And I disagree with the omni idea.
Position the guy right and fig 8 might be interesting, but your best bet
is some cardoid variation to get more color out of the mic.
(By Mgod)
I use a pair of km 84's w/ spectacular results. So maybe you can borrow or rent,
BUT.....if you cannot, then go with a pair of large condensors. You should orient
them (no pun intended) near the bridge, near the body. In terms of the physics
of the sitar, think of it a large carved top mandolin with a round back, and a lot
of sympathetic strings. Be aware that this instrument uses VERY light strings in
great profusion and is NOT very loud, so get a bit close, but not so close that
you lose the sympathetic strings. 9 inches out to about 15 or so depending on
the player and if the player moves around.
(By Gallimhabu)
- In a seated position place the mic in a short stand on the floor about even with
the tailpiece and have the element of the mic about 2 to 3 inches south of the
main bridge NOT close to but positioned so if you are facing the instrument the
element appears 2 to 3 inches down from the bridge toward the tail. The
element will split the face of the tabli top to bottom at approximately a 45
degree angle shooting across the face towards the pic guard & past the hot spot
thats around the bridges. Distance in front - the element should be about 6
inches in front of the instrument - You will have to experiment to find the most
comfortable position while maintaining maximum sound pressure level from the
instrument. Too close & you might klunk the mic. Too far & you have to put too
much gain at the attenuator on the board & thereby create distortion & the
possibility of feedback from monitors as well as picking up unwanted sounds
from other instruments.
An easy test to find the hot spot on your individual instrument is:
Lay on the foor while in front of your instrument and have someone else play.
Have your head in an approximation of the mic position (you head is now the
mic ) cup your ears & listen to the sound of the sitar & you will be able to hear
where the most prominent sound is coming from on the face of the tabli it will be
somewhere around the bridges - this is the hot spot. You will also hear all the
rich overtones that radiate from the bridges out thru the instrument & up thru the
hollow neck - you are angling the mic position toward where the mizrabs are
striking the strings and picking up the ambient tones generated from the metallic
ping of the mizrab striking the string - this will help accentuate the percieved
bite of the plucked string especiallly during loud fast sections where it might
start getting a little blurred - This will help the fretted note explode & sound true
above all the rest of the background overtones. (remember mic the top gourd if
your using one and have an extra channel your tarafs will just sparkle )
On an acoustic guitar its the same principal except your hot spot is obviously
the sound hole - You angle the mic from the neck side toward the pic striking
the string past the hot spot for those stike sounds that adds bite, If you just fire
straight into the sound hole it can get a little blurred again during forceful
strumming, & you start to loose all those wonderful overtones radiating out thru
the soundboard that add that wonderful clear woody sound we're trying to
achieve.
By finding the hot spot on an instrument and also remembering to position in
such a way to help accentuate the striking medium (bow - pic - mizrab - etc) It
will give you a very clean, clear, & powerful sound with great penetration and will
give you tons more headroom on the channel at the board. It will also be a truer
sound and you won't have to eq heavily thereby giving it a more natural sound.
And remember these techniques are being used for acoustic only instruments -
if you then add a transducer and have the luxury of having 2 channels available
for the instrument it changes the dynamics of the sound at the speaker.
I would still position the mics for sitar in the same way but it will change your
settings for the miked channel vs the direct channel as you blend the 2 distinct
sounds.
Hope this helps.
(By Hamletsghost)