— MSC-06805 NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION Classification changed to__A tro de feaaee Caaf, Tee *“——KPOLLO 16 TECHNICAL CREW DEBRIEFING (U) MAY 5, 1972 PREPARED BY TRAINING OFFICE CREW TRAINING AND SIMULATION DIVISION This document will automatically become declassified 90 days from the published date. NOTICE: This document may be exempt from public disclosure under the Freedom of Infor- mation Act (5 U.S.C, 552), Requests for its release to persons outside the U.S. Govern ment should be handled under the provisions of NASA Policy Directive 1382.2. MANNED SPACECRAFT CENTER HOUSTON, TEXAS SIGHATOR LOCreSection 1.0 2.0 3.0 40 18.0 19.0 20.0 21.0 UNCLASSIFIED comrEenrs SUITING AND INGRESS 62... eee ee eee STATUS CHECKS AND COUNTDOWN... 2 eee ee eee PPOEREDILIGHD | es ee BARTH ORBIT AND SYSTEMS CHECKOUT... 1... LI THROUGH S-IVB CLOSEOUT... . 1... +2 -e TRANSLUWAR COAST ee eee LOL, DOL, LUNAR MODULE CHECKOUT . ACTIVATION THROUGH SEPARATION... ee ee eee SEPARATION THROUGH LM TOUCHDOWN... .- 2 Gee LUNAR SURFACE 6 0. ee ee CSM CIRCUMLUNAR OPERATIONS ©... +--+ +e ee LIFTOFF, RENDEZVOUS, AND DOCKING... .. . Bo LUNAR MODULE JEPTISON THROUGH TEL... .- 2.4 - SIRANGEARTHACORST) | eee pet et LANDING AND RECOVERY ... 1... RAINING Fe ee ee ee ee COMMAND MODULE SYSTEMS OPERATIONS . LUNAR MODULE SYSTEMS OPERATIONS .. 2... 1. [DAVEOPERATIONS ee MU UNCLASSIFIED 22-1 13-1Section UNCLASSIFIED uaa Page FLIGHT EQUIPMENT... ee ee et 22-1 FLIGHT DATA FILE 23-1 VISUAL SIGH 2he2 PREMUSSLONECLANNING | cg ee 25-. MISSION CONTROL . +--+ eee eee 26-1 HUMAN FACTORS MISCELLANEOUS UNCLASSIFIEDYOUNG SLAYTON YOUNG SLAYTON YouNG 1.0 SUITING AND INGRESS I aian't notice any problens associated with suiting em in- gress. Cabin Closeout was nominal throughout. As everyone knows, St is very difficult to reach the dump hendle to dump the cabin for the purge, but you can do it with your elbow. That's the way I did it. The other thing that made me nervous about ingress was the vay Troy Stuart leaned over the abort handle. I know the gyros are not armed, but man, ve should caution the suit technicians to stay evay from that kind of stuff. Speaking of Troy reminds me that we do need to get a comment from Charlie here on the suiting; whether he had some diffi- culty, based on your first goaround. Yes. On the day of launch, he said the legs of his were tight. And, everybody just sort of poo-pooed that. We can talk about that later. Suit circuit cheek was good; ingress and cabin closeout were nominal. In fact, we were about 20 minutes ahead the whole time through the launch.YOUNG YOUNG MATTINGLY YouNG MATTINGLY Ground communications and countdown were nominal; launch preparation was nominal; systens preparation was nominal. Crew Station Controls and Displays: 1 think there's @ couple of things we can say here, One is that we knew that the #, tank 1 pressure read-out was oscillating, didn't we? Yes. They told us that. We hed a caution and warning on it. They told us that. But the other thing that we didn't know was that the SPS pressure - the fuel pressure was what - 7 psi low? Due to a transducer. ve got all those nunbers written down. Apparently the problem with the SPS pressure vas something that they had known about and it was not sonething that we ever discussed. ‘The problen thet Charlie saw was that the Delta-P on the pad was greater than 20. That's right. When we were sitting there, we were sitting with an abort condition for LOI. We had a greater-than-20 Delta-P laying there on the pad. And they came back and said that's the way it is because there is a shift in thereae YOUNG MATTINGLY YOUNG MATTINGLY YOUNG And then sone other thing had failed and nobody told us any- thing about that. Some ground reference thing had failed and 1 guess 1b could have been our fault and they asked us if ve vanted a final triefing on the actual eystems, how they were operating, and I asked Dave Ballard if there was anything we ought to know about and he said not that hé knew of. S0 I eaid, let's not do it then because we're kind of busy and T don't want to unnecessarily fill squares. We talked to Don Arabian about it and he was sending us all the preflight problem tracking lists and I read every one of those reports. It wasn't in there. There vas a transducer shift, I remember, and it was @ telen- etry transducer shift. That was the way it was described, and it was something that the MOCR had calibrated and that was all taken care of and whether this vas the sane problem or whether it was an additional problem, I don't know. The point being, I think we could have had that problem all worked out before we ever left the ground with the mission rules and everything for LOT instead of going through a couple of days of LOT mission rules and coming up to LOI with an SPS light and thet kind of thing. The bad feature about an SPS CONFIDENTIALYOUNG (conr'D) MATTINGLY youn youNG DUKE Light, is - that's not the only thing you can get an SPS warning light for. That's right. It negates the value of the SPS pressure light because you've masked it by having it on all the time. For future design, we ought to be able to reset lights if there's more than one variable going to them. For example, when you get a fuel cell light, there's five things going into @ fuel cell. Charlie just walked into the room and he's going to say some~ thing about his suiting. His legs were too short. When we walked out of the suit room you said your legs were too short and I said, "Charlie." Well, I was really kidding a little bit. They really felt a Little tight, but I asked for them to be tight because Clyde seid that they vould stretch and sure enough they did. On the surface, they felt fine. I'll tell you that fastener didn't stretch much. That was the zipper problem it turned out, not a suit fit problem. I had the same problem with John's on PDI day that he had with mine the day before. When you pull the restraint zipper together, it doesn't lie flat in the middle of the back.2k DUKE (cona'D) YOUNG DUKE YOUNG DUKE YOUNG It gives a sort of series of W's, and when you try to pull it across there it takes three hands to really do it. Charlie, yours Just wasn't making on the first day. It was coming close. It really was nervous. I thought every EVA would be the ‘last because I didn't know whether I'd make the restraint zipper every time. The fit was fine, though Mirter we got out on the surface and got pressurized. Yes. The tighter you can get it, the better off you're going to be when you put that 3.5 psi in there. But sure enough, preflight, going out, they felt a little tight to me. But I'@ asked for it, so I couldn't complain. Had you changed it since the last time you wore it? No. Well, the problem we got into there, and maybe we could have avoided it, ie that, a couple of times preflight with the flight suits, Charlie and I zipped each other Just to see how hard that would be, We van about four or five suited exercises where we donned the suits in the evening and vorked for a couple of hours inside the building where the QC guys could watch the suits, and the first couple of times we tried CONHDENTIALYOUNG (conT'D) DUKE ‘YOUNG DUKE YOUNG zipping then. Maybe it's the last time you want to do the zipping, after all the adjustments have been made. On every adjustment of the flight suit, when we got to the middle of the back, Troy had a tough time getting that re~ straint zipper, because of that W in the back. I really recommend that there ought to be some way to adjust ‘thet thing down so that wien the two guys are alone one guy can do it, because you need to be able to pull it together Like that and you need to be able to stretch it out like that which takes four hands, only you got about two. You know whet I mean? You need to be able to pull the thing together to get the teeth closed. You could probably do it with some kind of restraint that pulls the two pieces together, like @ tie-down ring. I am not telling then how to fix it, but I think it's a solvable problem. You really do want that thing tight because you're in a good suit when it is tight. Concerning the SPS fuel and oxidizer Delta-P; I couldn't be~ lieve it when I looked up there and it was out of limits. It wes 7 psi low. Was thet what it was?