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    Winco 60711-018 Rotating Field Ts Guide

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    This document provides troubleshooting guidelines for generators with no output. It begins by outlining safety procedures and checks for residual output voltage. If no output, it describes flashing the field to test excitation. Next steps include checking the stator, capacitors, diodes and other components, with procedures varying depending on the generator's excitation type. It also provides testing guidelines for rectifiers and diagrams field flashing. Resistance values are listed for various generator models.

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    This document provides troubleshooting guidelines for generators with no output. It begins by outlining safety procedures and checks for residual output voltage. If no output, it describes flashing the field to test excitation. Next steps include checking the stator, capacitors, diodes and other components, with procedures varying depending on the generator's excitation type. It also provides testing guidelines for rectifiers and diagrams field flashing. Resistance values are listed for various generator models.

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    This document provides troubleshooting guidelines for generators with no output. It begins by outlining safety procedures and checks for residual output voltage. If no output, it describes flashing the field to test excitation. Next steps include checking the stator, capacitors, diodes and other components, with procedures varying depending on the generator's excitation type. It also provides testing guidelines for rectifiers and diagrams field flashing. Resistance values are listed for various generator models.

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    Winco 60711-018 Rotating Field Ts Guide

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    This document provides troubleshooting guidelines for generators with no output. It begins by outlining safety procedures and checks for residual output voltage. If no output, it describes flashing the field to test excitation. Next steps include checking the stator, capacitors, diodes and other components, with procedures varying depending on the generator's excitation type. It also provides testing guidelines for rectifiers and diagrams field flashing. Resistance values are listed for various generator models.

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    The document outlines safety procedures and troubleshooting steps for testing generators with no output or other issues.

    Safety precautions that should be followed include checking for residual voltage before disassembly, disconnecting loads before checks, and paying attention to voltage scale and potential shock hazards.

    Steps include checking for residual output, flashing the field, checking stator and capacitor leads, and inspecting diodes, slip rings, and brushes if still no output.

    TROUBLESHOOTING

    GUIDE
    NOTE: The following conditions are necessary for all tests that follow. Your life, your safety
    and the life of your test equipment depend on paying attention to these details.
    1) All resistance checks are with the unit STOPPED!
    2) All voltage checks are with the engine running.
    3) Always start with the highest voltage scale. (600 Volt scale minimun)
    4) Check for residual voltage before any disassembly.
    5) Dont disassemble any more than necessary.
    6) Mark leads for reassembly.
    7) Disconnect loads before residual voltage checks.
    8) Write down all your readings.
    9) Record Model #, Serial #, and P/N before calling.

    NO OUTPUT (ALL GENERATORS)


    1.

    2.
    3.
    4.

    5.
    6.

    (All AC voltage readings are with engine running)


    Check for Residual output at receptacles WITH THE ENGINE RUNNING. Expect
    Minimum of 3 - 5 VAC at the 120V receptacles, double at the 240V recept.
    Always start on the HIGHEST ACV Scale. Dont blow the ohms scale on the first
    test!
    With the engine running, flash the field with 9 VDC dry battery if output is below
    5 VAC. Refer to diagram #1
    Re-Check for output at ALL receptacles.
    STOP the engine. On WINCO units remove end-cover and disconnect only the
    generator output leads G1, G3 and N from the control box leads. Restart engine
    and check for output at stator power leads. The DYNA generators cannot be
    checked this way , for DYNA units move to step #9.
    a.
    All units with 120 volt capabilities:
    G-1 to N = 120 volts AC
    Q-1 to Q-2 =170-300 Volts AC (Capacitor Winding)
    b.
    For units with 240 volt capabilities:
    G-1 to N = 120 volts AC
    G-3 to N = 120 volts AC
    G-1 to G-3 = 240 volts AC
    Q-1 to Q-2 = 170-300 Volts AC (Capacitor Winding)
    If you get proper AC voltage from stator leads the generator end is good.Check
    receptacle panel for loose wires, shorted receptacles or defective parts.
    If you get no output from stator leads:
    a.
    For RFB - Rotating Field Brush type excitation - move to #17.
    b.
    For RFL - Rotating Field BrushLess Capacitor excitation - move to #7.

    RFL - Rotating field with brushless Capacitor type excitation.


    7.

    Check capacitors.
    a.
    Visually check capacitors for loose or burned wires and leaking caps.
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    b.

    Discharge capacitors by momentarily grounding capacitor terminals to


    the capacitor case. (Failure to ground capacitors may cause a shock)
    c.
    Disconnect capacitor leads.
    d.
    Using an VOM (ohm meter) set at 200K ohms. Connect meter leads to
    the two sets of terminals on one capacitor. Ohm meter should read 0
    and slowly move to an open circuit. (5 to 10 seconds) (the battery in ohm
    meter is charging capacitor) Reversing the meter leads will cause the
    Ohm meter to count down to zero. Then charge up and move to open
    circuit.
    e.
    Repeat step (d) for any remaining capacitors. (there may be up to three
    capacitors depending on the model of generator)
    8.
    Check stator capacitor leads for continuity and grounding.
    a.
    There should be continuity between leads.
    b.
    The resistance values are shown in table #1.
    c.
    There should not be any reading to ground.
    9.
    Check stator output power leads for continuity, resistance and grounding.
    a.
    There should be continuity between leads.
    b.
    The resistance values are shown in table #1.
    c.
    There should not be any reading to ground.
    10. Check for continuity between the capacitor leads and power leads in the stator.
    a.
    There should not be continuity between these two sets of leads.
    11. Remove stator/shell assembly.
    12. Unbolt the diode(s) from mounting bracket or the fan on rotor.
    13. Check diode(s) with an ohm meter. Most meters use a special setting for testing
    a diode. If your meter does not have special setting use the RX1 ohms scale.
    a.
    Meter leads should be placed on either end of one diode, check meter for
    current flow. (Diode must be unbolted to test)
    b.
    Reverse meter leads, check meter for current flow.
    c.
    Current flow (reading) should be detected in only one direction. If diode
    reads current flow in both or neither direction it should be replaced.
    d.
    Depending on model. Repeat step a thru c for the other diode if installed.
    NOTE: All of the two diode systems use one forward polarity and one
    reverse polarity diode.
    14. Check rotor leads for continuity and grounding. Place meter leads on solder end
    of diode(s). At least one of the diodes must be disconnected from the rotor to
    check continuity and resistance. There should be continuity between leads but no
    reading to ground See table #1 for resistance values.
    15. Replace any defective parts and reassemble generator.
    16. Flash field according to diagram #1.
    RFB - Rotating Field with Brush type excitation.
    17.
    18.

    Disconnect wires from rectifier and check rectifier.


    Check rectifier leads from the stator for continuity and grounding.
    a.
    There should be continuity between leads.

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    19.

    20.
    19.
    20.
    21.

    22.
    23.

    b.
    The resistance values are shown in table #1.
    c.
    There should not be any reading to ground.
    Check Stator Output power leads for continuity, resistance and grounding.
    a.
    There should be continuity between leads.
    b.
    The resistance values are shown in table #1.
    c.
    There should not be any reading to ground.
    Check for continuity between the rectifier leads and power leads from the stator.
    a.
    There should not be continuity between these two sets of leads.
    Remove brush rack and check brushes for spring tension, binding, burning, and
    a minimum of 3/8 in. length.
    Check rotor slip rings for wear and corrosion.
    Check rotor slip rings for continuity and grounding.
    a.
    There should be continuity between slip rings.
    b.
    The resistance values are shown in table #1.
    c.
    There should not be any reading to ground.
    Replace any defective parts and reassemble generator.
    Flash field according to diagram #1.

    TESTING RECTIFIERS
    The field excitation is supplied through a full wave bridge rectifier. This type of rectifier has four
    terminals - two AC, one DC positive and one DC negative. There are 4 diodes within each
    rectifier, one between each of the terminals as you go around the outside of the rectifier.

    6.
    7.
    8.
    9.

    The rectifier is tested in the following manner:


    1.
    Disconnect all leads from rectifier.
    2.
    Connect the red ohmmeter lead to the positive DC (+)
    terminal.
    3.
    Connect the black lead to each of the AC terminals in turn.
    Either a high or low resistance reading will be obtained.
    4.
    Reverse the meter leads, black lead to the DC POS (+)
    and red lead to the AC terminals, each in turn. An opposite
    reading should be observed.
    5.
    Connect the red ohmmeter lead to the negative DC (-)
    terminal.
    Connect the black lead to each of the AC terminals in turn. Either a high or low
    resistance reading will be obtained.
    Reverse the meter leads, black lead to the DC NEG (-) and red lead to the AC
    terminals, each in turn. An opposite reading should be observed.
    Check each terminal to the case. An open circuit (very high resistance) reading
    should be observed.
    If the rectifier fails any of the above tests, it should be considered defective and
    replaced.

    If a battery powered test light is used. Follow the same procedures described below. A good
    diode element will allow current to pass to the light in the test lamp in only one direction.
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    FIELD FLASHING PROCEDURES


    Material Required

    Diagram #1

    1. 9 Volt DC Transistor Battery


    2. Jumper wires 20 to 22 gauge
    Each wire should have a clip on one end
    and be stripped about 3/8 of an inch on the other.
    Procedure

    Neutral

    Hot Side

    Caution: Insure there is no open or spilled fuel in the


    area of the unit when flashing the fields. Insure the
    Positive
    wires used to flash the field have no bare spots on them.
    Terminal
    Negative
    1. Clip the jumper wires to the terminals on the battery.
    Terminal
    9 Volt Transistor
    2. Start the engine generator set.
    Battery
    3. Locate the 120 volt receptacle with the two flat blade slots.
    4. Making sure not to touch the bare wire, momentarily insert the bare ends of the wires into
    the appropriate slots.
    5. BRIEFLY POKE THE WIRES INTO THE RECEPTACLES, BUT DO NOT HOLD THE
    WIRES IN THE RECEPTACLE. THIS RECEPTACLE WILL ENERGIZE TO 120 VOLTS
    IMMEDIATELY.

    GENERATOR RESISTANCE TABLE #1


    MODELS

    ROTOR

    G1TO N

    HD3200, HD3200H HP3300,


    HP3300H, WT3000, WC3000H

    0.83-0.92

    0.52-0.57

    1.68-1.87

    SS 1530

    TF4500, DX4500, HP4500, HP4500H


    HP5000H, HD4500, HD4500, EC4500
    WC4500, WC5000H, W4500, W5000H

    0.95-1.05

    0.17-0.19

    0.34-0.375 0.53-0.58

    SS 1531

    TF6000, DX6000, HP6000, HP6000H

    1.87-2.08

    0.12-0.14

    0.25-0.28

    0.34-0.39

    SS 1533

    TFM6000,DXM6000, HDM6000, HDM6000H


    HPM6000, HPM6000H, WC6000, WC6000H
    W6000, W6000H

    10.9-12.1

    0.10-0.11

    0.17-0.19

    0.76-0.84

    SS 1544

    DX9000, HP9000, HP9500H


    TF9000, PSS8000, WC9000, W9500

    0.69-0.77

    0.12-0.13

    0.12-0.13

    0.22-0.24

    SS 1538

    LC1500, LC1750

    0.73-0.82

    0.72-0.86

    2.40-2.67

    SS 1545

    LC3000, LC3000H, LC3000I, D3000

    0.83-0.92

    0.52-0.57

    2.40-2.67

    SS 1540

    LC4500, LC5000H, LLC4500, LLC5000H


    DLC4500, D4500, D5000, DL4500, DL5000

    0.79-0.87

    0.61-0.67

    0.61-0.67

    2.10-2.33

    SS 1541

    LC6000, LLC6000, DLC6000,


    TFLC6000, DL6000, DL6000H

    1.95-1.05

    0.21-0.23

    0.22-0.25

    0.53-0.58

    SS1543

    LLC9000, TFLC9000, DL9000

    0.69-0.77

    0.12-0.13

    0.12-0.13

    0.22-0.24

    SS1538

    7325-00

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    G2 TO N

    Q1 TO Q2 SS SPEC

    60711-018

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