Instability at Joints Error
Instability at Joints Error
Im new to STAAD and have designed a steel bridge for a competition that I would like to model.
For some reason I get an error message of instability at several joints, and deflections which
dont make any sense. I also used the multiple structure tool and there are in fact 5 structures.
Can anyone help?
I uploaded my .STD file to a file-hosting site. Here is the link:
http://www.filedropper.com/flimsynewdebug_1
and here is my output file:
61. 169 16.3781 4.72142 3.7; 170 17.1281 4.55415 3.7; 171 19.3781 4.72142 3.7
62. 172 12.7781 2.10142 3.7; 173 24.8781 2.10142 3.7; 174 9.17815 4.72142 3.7
63. 175 10.9781 4.72142 3.7; 176 23.2281 4.55142 3.7; 177 20.5281 4.55142 3.7
64. 178 21.8781 4.55142 3.7; 179 21.8781 4.72142 3.7; 180 22.0281 4.55142 3.7
65. 181 22.0281 4.72142 3.7; 182 22.1782 4.55142 3.7; 183 22.1782 4.72142 3.7
66. 184 22.3282 4.55142 3.7; 185 22.3282 4.72142 3.7; 186 22.4781 4.55142 3.7
67. 187 22.4781 4.72142 3.7; 188 22.6281 4.55142 3.7; 189 22.6281 4.72142 3.7
68. 190 22.7781 4.55142 3.7; 191 22.7781 4.72142 3.7; 192 22.9282 4.55142 3.7
69. 193 22.9282 4.72142 3.7; 194 23.0782 4.55142 3.7; 195 23.0782 4.72142 3.7
70. 196 23.2281 4.72142 3.7; 197 20.5281 4.72142 3.7; 198 20.6782 4.55142 3.7
71. 199 20.6782 4.72142 3.7; 200 20.8282 4.55142 3.7; 201 20.8282 4.72142 3.7
72. 202 20.9781 4.55142 3.7; 203 20.9781 4.72142 3.7; 205 21.1281 4.72142 3.7
73. 206 21.2781 4.55142 3.7; 207 21.2781 4.72142 3.7; 208 21.4282 4.55142 3.7
74. 209 21.4282 4.72142 3.7; 210 21.5782 4.55142 3.7; 211 21.5782 4.72142 3.7
75. 212 21.7281 4.55142 3.7; 213 21.7281 4.72142 3.7; 214 20.3781 4.72142 3.7
76. 215 21.1281 4.55415 3.7; 216 23.3781 4.72142 3.7; 217 17.6782 4.55142 3.7
77. 218 17.6782 3.80142 3.7; 219 19.0882 4.55142 3.7; 220 19.0882 3.80142 3.7
78. MEMBER INCIDENCES
79. 1 1 2; 2 2 3; 3 3 4; 4 4 1; 5 5 6; 6 7 8; 7 8 9; 8 10 11; 9 12 13; 10 14 15
80. 11 44 17; 12 18 19; 13 20 21; 14 22 23; 15 24 25; 16 26 27; 17 28 29; 18 30 31
81. 19 32 33; 20 34 35; 21 36 37; 22 38 39; 23 40 41; 25 43 8; 26 8 11; 27 11 12
82. 28 12 15; 29 15 44; 30 44 19; 31 19 20; 32 20 23; 33 23 24; 34 24 6; 35 6 26
83. 36 26 29; 37 29 30; 38 30 33; 39 33 34; 40 34 37; 41 37 38; 42 38 41; 43 41 7
84. 45 1 46; 46 2 47; 47 4 48; 48 48 1; 49 49 1; 50 50 51; 51 52 53; 52 54 55
85. 53 56 57; 54 58 59; 55 60 61; 56 62 63; 57 64 65; 58 66 67; 59 68 69; 60 50 70
86. 61 51 71; 62 72 73; 63 74 75; 64 76 77; 66 80 81; 67 82 83; 68 84 85; 69 86 87
87. 70 88 51; 71 51 73; 72 73 74; 73 74 77; 74 77 89; 75 89 81; 76 81 82; 77 82 85
88. 78 85 86; 79 86 53; 80 53 54; 81 54 57; 82 57 58; 83 58 61; 84 61 62; 85 62 65
89. 86 65 66; 87 66 69; 88 69 50; 89 50 90; 90 91 92; 91 93 94; 93 97 98
90. 94 99 100; 95 1 91; 96 91 94; 97 101 102; 98 103 104; 99 94 103; 100 105 106
91. 101 103 106; 102 106 101; 103 101 98; 104 107 108; 105 109 110; 106 98 107
92. 107 107 110; 108 110 99; 109 99 2; 111 112 113; 112 113 114; 113 114 111
93. 114 115 116; 115 111 112; 116 117 118; 120 125 126; 121 127 128; 122 129 130
94. 123 131 132; 124 133 134; 125 135 136; 126 137 138; 127 139 140; 128 141 142
95. 129 143 144; 130 145 146; 131 147 148; 132 149 150; 133 115 151; 134 116 152
96. 135 153 154; 136 155 156; 137 157 158; 138 170 160; 139 161 162; 140 163 164
DXF IMPORT OF BRIDGENEW.DXF
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97. 141 165 166; 142 167 168; 143 169 116; 144 116 154; 145 154 155; 146 155 158
98. 147 158 170; 148 170 162; 149 162 163; 150 163 166; 151 166 167; 152 167 134
99. 153 134 135; 154 135 138; 155 138 139; 156 139 142; 157 142 143; 158 143 146
100. 159 146 147; 160 147 150; 161 150 115; 162 115 171; 163 112 172; 164 113 173
101. 165 111 174; 166 174 112; 167 175 112; 168 176 177; 169 178 179; 170 180 181
102. 171 182 183; 172 184 185; 173 186 187; 174 188 189; 175 190 191; 176 192 193
103. 177 194 195; 178 176 196; 179 177 197; 180 198 199; 181 200 201; 182 202 203
104. 183 215 205; 184 206 207; 185 208 209; 186 210 211; 187 212 213; 188 214 177
105. 189 177 199; 190 199 200; 191 200 203; 192 203 215; 193 215 207; 194 207 208
106. 195 208 211; 196 211 212; 197 212 179; 198 179 180; 199 180 183; 200 183 184
107. 201 184 187; 202 187 188; 203 188 191; 204 191 192; 205 192 195; 206 195 176
108. 207 176 216; 208 112 117; 210 217 218; 211 219 220; 214 218 219; 215 219 126
109. 216 126 127; 217 127 130; 218 130 131; 219 131 113; 220 3 113; 221 114 2
110. 222 97 126; 223 125 98; 224 103 122; 225 121 104; 228 174 4; 229 111 48
111. 230 112 4; 231 1 111; 232 117 120; 233 120 119; 234 120 121; 235 121 122
112. 236 121 218; 237 89 79
113. DEFINE PMEMBER
114. 3 47 PMEMBER 1
115. 113 165 PMEMBER 2
116. DEFINE MATERIAL START
117. ISOTROPIC STEEL
118. E 4.176E+009
119. POISSON 0.3
120. DENSITY 489.024
121. ALPHA 6E-006
122. DAMP 0.03
123. END DEFINE MATERIAL
124. MEMBER PROPERTY AMERICAN
125. 5 7 TO 23 26 TO 43 51 TO 64 66 TO 69 71 TO 88 124 TO 142 144 TO 161 126. 169 TO 187 189 TO 206 237 PRIS YD 0.03125
127. 2 4 48 49 90 91 93 TO 109 112 115 116 120 TO 123 166 167 208 210 211 128. 214 TO 219 232 TO 236 PRIS ROUND STA 0.08333 END 0.08333 THI 0.0054166
129. 1 3 45 TO 47 111 113 163 TO 164 130. 165 PRIS SQUARE STA 0.08333 END 0.08333 THI 0.00691667
131. 6 25 50 70 89 114 143 162 168 188 207 220 TO 225 228 TO 230 132. 231 PRIS SQUARE STA 0.0416667 END 0.0416667 THI 0.00541667
133. CONSTANTS
134. BETA 0 MEMB 236
135. MATERIAL STEEL ALL
136. SUPPORTS
137. 46 172 PINNED
138. 47 173 FIXED BUT FX FZ MX MY MZ
PROBLEM STATISTICS
----------------------------------NUMBER OF JOINTS/MEMBER+ELEMENTS/SUPPORTS = 210/ 224/
LOADING
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UDL
L1
L2
CON
LIN1
LIN2
43 DIRECTION = FX
527
528
529
530
531
532
767
768
769
770
771
772
1007
1008
1009
1010
1011
1012
1247
1248
1249
1250
1251
1252
FOR LOADING - 1
APPLIED JOINT EQUIVALENT LOADS
JOINT FORCE-X FORCE-Y FORCE-Z
MOM-X
MOM-Y
MOM-Z
3 0.00000E+00-2.89209E+02 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00 9.20378E+02
4 0.00000E+00-4.60791E+02 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00-1.24594E+03
111 0.00000E+00-4.60791E+02 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00-1.24594E+03
114 0.00000E+00-2.89209E+02 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00 0.00000E+00 9.20378E+02
STATIC LOAD/REACTION/EQUILIBRIUM SUMMARY FOR CASE NO.
LOADTYPE NONE TITLE LOAD CASE 1
1)
SUMMATION FORCE-Z =
0.00
DXF IMPORT OF BRIDGENEW.DXF
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1)
1)
EXT FX/ EXT FY/ EXT FZ/ EXT MX/ EXT MY/ EXT MZ/
INT FX INT FY INT FZ INT MX INT MY INT MZ
46
0.00
0.00
0.00 -433.88
0.00
-1.12
0.00
0.00
SUPPORT=1
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00 111000
47
0.00
0.00
0.00 -316.12
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00 010000
172
0.00
0.00
0.00 -433.88
0.00
1.12
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00 111000
173
0.00
0.00
0.00 -316.12
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00 010000
143. FINISH
DXF IMPORT OF BRIDGENEW.DXF
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1 Reply
SKLose
Go to the Tools menu and select Check Multiple Structures. You will notice that 5 structures are
listed. Four of them are trusses which appear to be suspended in space and are not connected
to the main structure.
Another indication of this fact is the message you'll find in the output file :
**WARNING- THIS STRUCTURE IS DISJOINTED. IGNORE IF
MASTER/SLAVE OR IF UNCONNECTED JOINTS.
Here is a simple way to rectify this. Select all the members of the structure. Go to the Geometry
menu on top of the screen and choose Intersect Selected Members followed by Intersect. Keep
the tolerance at 0. You will see a message that 194 new members have been created. It is the
result of the various "physical" members being segmented. After this, if you do the Multiple
structure check again, there won't be any more separate structures.
You may have to examine your physical members and the loads applied using the PMEMBER
command. In the meanwhile, just add a