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Considering how misogynistic Sokka was in the first few episodes of ATLA, its quite funny to think he won over the hearts of some of the most powerful women of his time.
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Lets see here...we have badass Suki, Toph aka one of the most powerful benders ever, Ty Lee who can fricking paralyze people, and the MOON.
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lmfao. This ~25 vote post got linked in two separate articles - one on ew and one on variety - today, as some sort of proof of “entire Reddit threads about [Sokka’s sexism], discussing how the original Sokka (prior to his character journey) would make remarks like ‘Girls are better at fixing pants than guys, and guys are better at hunting and fighting.'”
Wow! Entire reddit threads!
Seriously though, let's solve the mystery once and for all. Yes, Sokka has a poor attitude towards women/girls. The fact that he improves over time is called character growth and is in fact one of the signs of good storytelling. Taking it out of your movie only tells us how low an opinion you have of your audience, Netflix!
it's one of the few initial negatives about Sokka that he grows and learns from it.
He literally is probably just jealous he isn't a water bender initially.
Main characters can have flaws. How else is growth supposed to be shown?
I agree with you. It’s called character development. That was the whole point of him falling for Suki. She was unexpected to him.
Slow news day "journalism".
Edit: For a more concrete example of "sexism": https://x.com/TheStarWG/status/1752187336384033107?s=20.
They never showed this as something "right". It was Sokka's character and was obviously wrong, even a 10 year old of that time would see this. I don't think they should have toned it down either. Instead, there should have been scenes humiliating him and showing how wrong he is.
This.. "this 25 vote post"
they don't want to take it out tho just tone it down
I think just toning it down would be fine. I mean, in the original series, lots of things get played up for comedic effect. That works fine in a cartoon, but it might feel a little awkward when you see real people saying it. I can't judge whether they kept Sokka's characterization intact until I see it.
Unfortunately, there is such outrage culture nowadays. And that's on both sides. There definitely are people calling every single thing "problematic". But there's also people who are outraged that Tifa is wearing a bra in the FFVII remake. Even though it's a GOOD change that her tits aren't bouncing around.
Agreed 100%. A live action would very likely require sarcasm to deliver the joke, and sarcastic sexism will make him look too much of an ass.
The core of character development is not in humorous one-liners. It's in the plot points and self reflection.
I think it’s because no one can actually take him seriously in most instances because he has such a strong sarcastic aspect to his character. I feel like if the writers made him more serious or stoic, then he would be less like able.
Also, you have to take into account that during that time, the men were typically the heads of the tribes and were sent out to do the hunting and fighting. Thus why at the beginning of the series, Sokka and Katara are the only teens left in the Southern Tribe while the adults all went off to fight in the war. Which would make sense as to why he is the way he is, he feels the need to be a strong father like figure for the village and that’s the only way he knows how at the start.
But I was more surprised about Zuko and Mai given Zuko’s personality, but his character development is second to none. But good humor and comic relief will get any man positive points in the hearts of women.
It seems weird to me that people always include Ty Lee in this list. I mean, she thought he was hot, but did he really win her heart? She didn’t really give him that much thought other than ‘hey he’s kind of handsome.’ All the other girls are valid.
Variety quoting this😂😂😂 Shameless bunch
And he learned better, especially from Suki.
I strongly doubt that the one blush when he comes back from training means that Toph liked him. I think it just meant that she was uncomfortable expressing emotion/affection/that she had missed him as much as the other two.
Again, I believe that’s a “I’m so grateful you saved me” more than “I’m romantically crushing on you”. And the fact that she’s embarrassed after finding out it’s Suki just means she’s embarrassed about mistaking one for the other, and probably for kissing a girl.
Are you serious? That was definitely a full on crush a young girl would have.
Literally the same scene happened in Atonement (with more dire circumstances) because Saiorse Ronan’s character had a huge crush on James McAvoy’s.
Toph was embarrassed because that was tweenage girl speak for “I love you Sokka!!” and it was Suki who saved her.
I love Atonement! Nice connection you made there.
Now it has 32 votes. Lol some articles quoted this Reddit thread. I mean Sokka is being Sokka. There's no need to remove his childish sexism since he's just an immature teen earlier in the first season. Cancel culture is getting worse.