American-style white Christian Nationalism tells of a promised land given by God to the Puritan settlers. Their divine mandate for political dominance sanctifies a violent history that stretches from the 1690's all the way through to modern right-wing politics. Our interview today is with sociologists, Philip Gorski and Samuel Perry, authors of The Flag and The Cross. We discuss their study of Christian Nationalism as a white supremacist phenomenon that has always leaned into conspiracism and a primordial obsession with blood purity and blood sacrifice. With the dreaded midterm elections now in our rearview, Derek covers the Muscular Christian masturbation rules of bro-science influencer Ben Greenfield, while we reflect on the prophesied red wave that never crashed. Show NotesThe Flag and the Cross—Gorski and PerryIs Christian nationalism growing or declining? Both.Most Republicans Support Declaring the United States a Christian NationRally Urges US Midterm Voting Connected to Christianity-- -- --Support us on PatreonStay in touch with us on Twitter: @derekberes @julianmwalker @matthewremskiOriginal music by EarthRise SoundSystem