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On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 11:50, Darren Dale wrote:
> I was thinking about the first example in the tutorial. On windows, TkAgg 
> is the default backend, at least for the precompiled windows version. If 
> Idle is run with -n, the show() command must be omitted, or the window will 
> not render. 

Not in my experience.  What's the command sequence you're executing?

> Interactive2.py will try to render the window and then hang, 

I think interactive2.py is for GTK.  It's a bad idea to use it with
TkAgg since TkAgg is Tcl/Tk based.

> as will pycrust. 

I think PyCrust is WxWindows based.  It's also a bad idea to use with
TkAgg.  In general, multiple GUIs in the same process is a bad idea.  

> I think the first thing a newbie to matplotlib wants to do is 
> open their favorite shell interface and make sure they can reproduce the 
> first example in the tutorial.

I gotta admit,  shell confusion/compatibility is out of hand.   For
TkAgg, the only windows shells I recommend are python (not pythonwin!),
idle -n, and IPython.  Anything else either doesn't work or hasn't been
tested.

Regards,
Todd

>>>>> "Todd" == Todd Miller <jm...@st...> writes:

    >> * Well, here is my real problem. I need to generate EPS files
    >> of my pictures for use with TeX (MiKTeX). I'm having a lot of
    >> trouble with it (this includes problems with the GS conversion
    >> tool, but that is beyond the scope of this list). Basically,
    >> using TkAgg or the savefig method, I can generate a PS file
    >> with the figure. But the problem is that the figure does not
    >> show well - it is bigger than the generated page, so a very
    >> significant part of the figure is cut out. Is there anyway to
    >> resize the picture or tell matplotlib to fit the picture within
    >> specified dimensions (like some and some centimeters or inches
    >> height and width)?  Resizing the drawing window _did_ solve the
    >> problem, but then I can't generate the figures by scripting - I
    >> would have to manually resize everyone of them.

    Todd> I'm not sure it's made clear anywhere, but you can generate
    Todd> EPS by using the extension ".ep" or ".eps".

On earlier versions of matplotlib there was a figure sizing issue when
you saved from tkagg -> postscript or eps, but I thought this was
cleared up. Eg when I run examples/simple_plot.py with TkAgg backend
and then save test.eps, I don't see any figure size issues.

Are you using the latest version 0.53.1?  If so can you post a test
script that reproduces the eps figure size problem you describe.  In
the latter case I can probably fix it pronto.

JDH

On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 10:14, José Alexandre Nalon wrote:
> Greetings.
> 
> I'm new to matplotlib and to this list. I know it is a
> good thing to wait a little before posting, but I need
> some work done quickly, so I had to post a message as
> soon as I could. I also couldn't find in the list
> archives a solution to my problems, so I had to ask.
> Bear with me, please.
> 
> I must say that I'm very impressed with the overall
> quality of the figures generated with matplotlib, and
> the possibility to add TeX expression as labels is a
> fantastic feature that I have never even thought about
> (but now I can't live without).
> 
> I had some problems though, which I report below. Some
> of them I could solve (by hacking a little), others I
> didn't.
> 
> * I use TK backend, but also tried wx. They didn't work
>   well: in the TK backend, in interactive mode, the fi-
>   gure take a lot of time to be rendered, and sometimes
>   it does not. The same with wx. I looked into the
>   code of 'show' method in backend_tkagg.py, and did
>   some changes. The Tk.mainloop() was commented, I
>   uncommented it. I also changed the interactive mode
>   to False. By doing this, I lost the interactive
>   environment, but at least the figure shows quickly
>   when I use the 'show' command. I don't know if this
>   has been an issue for everyone, or if it is a problem
>   with compatibility with what I have installed here
>   (it is Python 2.3.2, Windows ME, Tk 8.4, if I'm right),
>   but if there is a better solution to it, I'd like to
>   hear.

I can't look at this today but I'll try to look tomorrow.

> * Also in the backend_tkagg.py there was two lines with
>   wrong identation. Line 181 (method show of
>   FigureManagerTkAgg class and line 416 (method update
>   of NavigationToolbar class) were not idented correctly.
>   I tried identing them and everything seems to be working
>   fine. I might have changed something that I shouldn't,
>   though.

I got these.  Thanks.

> * Well, here is my real problem. I need to generate EPS
>   files of my pictures for use with TeX (MiKTeX). I'm
>   having a lot of trouble with it (this includes problems
>   with the GS conversion tool, but that is beyond the
>   scope of this list). Basically, using TkAgg or the
>   savefig method, I can generate a PS file with the
>   figure. But the problem is that the figure does not
>   show well - it is bigger than the generated page, so a
>   very significant part of the figure is cut out. Is
>   there anyway to resize the picture or tell matplotlib
>   to fit the picture within specified dimensions (like
>   some and some centimeters or inches height and width)?
>   Resizing the drawing window _did_ solve the problem,
>   but then I can't generate the figures by scripting -
>   I would have to manually resize everyone of them.

I'm not sure it's made clear anywhere, but you can generate EPS by using
the extension ".ep" or ".eps".

Regards,
Todd

-- 
Todd Miller <jm...@st...>

>John writes:
>I still support the other backends because people still use them but
>spend less energy porting all the new features to them. If someone
>says "I need alpha blending on WX", I usually say "Can you use
>WXAgg?", and so on.  postscript is still very actively maintained
>because it is in a different category and widely used for publication
>and TeX.

All things to all people...PS support is a big selling point.

>Now I see why you were looking at
>interactive2.py -- you want to embed a python shell in your
>application.

No, not really. I was just reading through the documentation, found 
interactive2, and tried it out. I like the command recall better than Idle. 
It would be interesting to have a matplotlib user interface, akin to the 
one from Matlab. If for no other reason than to make converts like myself 
feel familiar. For example, I still dont know how to change the working 
directory from inside the shell, or how to access a list of attributes for 
an object.

>You may also want to look into VTK if you need 3D plotting, which has
>nice integration with pygtk.  I use this a lot in my application.  I
>find it amazing that you can embed an OpenGL window into a GTK widget
>set wrapped by pygtk running in a python interpreter on a Microsoft
>Windows OS and still get hardware acceleration!

And a partridge in a pear tree.

(that IS impressive!) 

Starting at line 363:

   console.execute_line('import matplotlib')
   console.execute_line("matplotlib.use('GTKAgg')") # or 'GTK'. This is the 
only change
   console.execute_line('matplotlib.interactive(1)')
   console.execute_line('from matplotlib.matlab import *')

Otherwise, an incompatible backend will cause the plot window to hang.

Darren

I was thinking about the first example in the tutorial. On windows, TkAgg 
is the default backend, at least for the precompiled windows version. If 
Idle is run with -n, the show() command must be omitted, or the window will 
not render. Interactive2.py will try to render the window and then hang, as 
will pycrust. I think the first thing a newbie to matplotlib wants to do is 
open their favorite shell interface and make sure they can reproduce the 
first example in the tutorial.

Darren



Darren S. Dale
dd...@co...

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Greetings.

I'm new to matplotlib and to this list. I know it is a
good thing to wait a little before posting, but I need
some work done quickly, so I had to post a message as
soon as I could. I also couldn't find in the list
archives a solution to my problems, so I had to ask.
Bear with me, please.

I must say that I'm very impressed with the overall
quality of the figures generated with matplotlib, and
the possibility to add TeX expression as labels is a
fantastic feature that I have never even thought about
(but now I can't live without).

I had some problems though, which I report below. Some
of them I could solve (by hacking a little), others I
didn't.

* I use TK backend, but also tried wx. They didn't work
  well: in the TK backend, in interactive mode, the fi-
  gure take a lot of time to be rendered, and sometimes
  it does not. The same with wx. I looked into the
  code of 'show' method in backend_tkagg.py, and did
  some changes. The Tk.mainloop() was commented, I
  uncommented it. I also changed the interactive mode
  to False. By doing this, I lost the interactive
  environment, but at least the figure shows quickly
  when I use the 'show' command. I don't know if this
  has been an issue for everyone, or if it is a problem
  with compatibility with what I have installed here
  (it is Python 2.3.2, Windows ME, Tk 8.4, if I'm right),
  but if there is a better solution to it, I'd like to
  hear.

* Also in the backend_tkagg.py there was two lines with
  wrong identation. Line 181 (method show of
  FigureManagerTkAgg class and line 416 (method update
  of NavigationToolbar class) were not idented correctly.
  I tried identing them and everything seems to be working
  fine. I might have changed something that I shouldn't,
  though.

* Well, here is my real problem. I need to generate EPS
  files of my pictures for use with TeX (MiKTeX). I'm
  having a lot of trouble with it (this includes problems
  with the GS conversion tool, but that is beyond the
  scope of this list). Basically, using TkAgg or the
  savefig method, I can generate a PS file with the
  figure. But the problem is that the figure does not
  show well - it is bigger than the generated page, so a
  very significant part of the figure is cut out. Is
  there anyway to resize the picture or tell matplotlib
  to fit the picture within specified dimensions (like
  some and some centimeters or inches height and width)?
  Resizing the drawing window _did_ solve the problem,
  but then I can't generate the figures by scripting -
  I would have to manually resize everyone of them.

* The EPS problem I might solve with a little hack, and
  generate an EPS file directly from my scripts. If this
  turns out to work well, I will contribute the code, of
  course, if the developers would want it.

* Another very important thing to me is to generate the
  plot of discrete functions (like the Matlab 'mesh'
  command). Is there anyway to do that with matplotlib?
  If not, can I suggest it as a feature request? :)

That's all for now. Thanks for the great software.

---
José Alexandre Nalon
na...@te...

>>>>> "Darren" == Darren Dale <dd...@co...> writes:

    Darren> I was wondering why matplotlib strives to support so many
    Darren> backends...

Accretion.  In the beginning there was GTK, but being a LaTeX user, I
needed a postscript output.  Also, there was a lot of interest in a
pure image backend that could make JPG/PNG/etc w/o having a window
popup.  gdmodule is a python module wrapping the very nice gd library
so I wrote the gd backend to provide pure image generation (could have
just as easily done PIL at this point).  Around the same time, David
Moore, also needing a pure image backend (gd hadn't been ported to
win32 yet), stealthily developed paint, a libart backend.  Meanwhile,
Jeremy needed wx at work, and developed the wx backend.

At this time the proliferation of backends was beginning to become a
maintenance hassle, and Perry Greenfield had a bright idea: another
backend!  But not just any old backend, the mother of all backends,
that could be used not only for pure image generation but used to
render directly into the GUI canvases.  GTK and WX use native GUI
drawing code to render the figure, so we not only need to support not
only all the widget-set related stuff, but all the drawing stuff as
well.

The new idea is to focus development on one high quality image backend
and use this in as many areas as possible.  We looked hard at libart
and gd, but both had bugs that could not be fixed.  Having worked with
the developers of chaco, Perry suggested antigrain which is a very
high quality 2D image library that I've just begun to scratch the
surface of.  So Agg was born and the GUI wrappers GTKAgg, TkAgg and
WXAgg quickly followed suit.  These 3 are the GUI backends of choice
for performance, feature set, and quality.

I still support the other backends because people still use them but
spend less energy porting all the new features to them. If someone
says "I need alpha blending on WX", I usually say "Can you use
WXAgg?", and so on.  postscript is still very actively maintained
because it is in a different category and widely used for publication
and TeX.

    Darren> I wrote a gui app in matlab that takes the fourier
    Darren> transform of a semi-infinite crystal. The point is to
    Darren> simulate X-ray diffraction (I work at the Cornell
    Darren> Synchrotron). The program is pretty good, from a science
    Darren> standpoint. I am considering publishing the work, but I
    Darren> wanted to make it open source. What's the point of doing
    Darren> work funded by the NSF if the public can't access it? So I
    Darren> am investigating rewriting the code using pygtk. I wanted
    Darren> something free and cross platform, and I need the
    Darren> vectorized matrix operations.


    Darren> Aside from that specific project, I am just trying to get
    Darren> the interactive feel of matlab. I need to take some time
    Darren> to look carefully through all the documentation here, it
    Darren> seems all of my questions have had answers published on
    Darren> the web.

Sounds very similar to my situation.  I develop a pretty complex
application for EEG and medical image data analysis.  I originally
wrote it in matlab but became dissatisfied with the ability of matlab
to easily manipulate complex data structures, work with databases,
fill out CGI forms, and the like.  You can do all of this in matlab
using the matlab JVM stuff (and I did), but it's a pain and it's slow.
I started over in python and decided on pygtk.  I couldn't find a 2D
plotting library I was satisfied with so wrote matplotlib around
pygtk.  If you need any additional encouragement, the quality of the
application and the ease of extending it are dramatically better now.

I develop on linux and most of the users are on win32, and have been
very happy with GTK on win32.  The only bug I've seen on OS X is that
progress bars don't seem to work.  Now I see why you were looking at
interactive2.py -- you want to embed a python shell in your
application.  I think pygtk + matplotlib + GTKAgg
+ a modified interactive2.py is a good combination for you.  Some
features of interactive2.py are underdeveloped, such as cutting and
pasting code blocks from an editor into the interpreter.

You may also want to look into VTK if you need 3D plotting, which has
nice integration with pygtk.  I use this a lot in my application.  I
find it amazing that you can embed an OpenGL window into a GTK widget
set wrapped by pygtk running in a python interpreter on a Microsoft
Windows OS and still get hardware acceleration!

JDH

>>>>> "Darren" == Darren Dale <dd...@co...> writes:

    Darren> The desired size of the tickmarks depends on whether I am
    Darren> creating a plot for publication, or for a talk. I find
    Darren> that I tweak this quite a bit in Matlab, looking for the
    Darren> most appealing result (I started in graphic design, 10
    Darren> years ago).

The easiest way to set the size of the tick labels is

  labels = get(gca(), 'xtickabels')
  set(labels, 'fontsize', 12)

I also end up doing the same thing, tweaking line size, font size and
weight, etc, to make figures that show up nicely in small journal
formats.

JDH

Hi Darren,
If this is a Windows font problem as John suggests, a recent post of mine may be relevant to you. Here it is reproduced since the mailing list archive seems to have broken. It would be interesting to know whether option B also fixes your problem. If it does, can you let the list know:

--
I just installed Gimp 2 for windows along with the latest GTK+
runtime and noticed that it exhibited the same font problem I've been
experiencing for ages with matplotlib. I was getting WARNING **:
Couldn't load font "MS Sans Serif 8" falling back to
"Sans 8" errors. It's addressed in their FAQ, <http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/faq.html>,
 reproduced here:

# I installed Gimp 2.0 on Windows 9x/ME or NT 4, and I'm getting a
lot of messages saying ** (gimp-2.0.exe:4294830849): WARNING **:
Couldn't load font "MS Sans Serif 8" falling back to
"Sans 8". What should I do?
# You have two options:
* Go to Control Panel->Display properties->Apperance tab, and
set all fonts to Tahoma (or any other TrueType font).
* Uninstall GTK+ 2.2.4, then re-install it without the GTK-Wimp
component.

I took option B and now all is well with both Gimp and Matplotlib.
I'm running Win98 and the Gimp FAQ entry hints that it may be a
problem in Win98,ME and NT installations. It might be worth adding
this to the Matplotlib faq page next to the "On windows with
GTK, I'm getting lots of messages about not finding the Times
font" entry.

Gary
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>Unfortunately, we do not have the resources to manage every backend
>across every platform.  gtk, tk, wx, gd, ps, agg cross win32, osx,
>linux, solaris equals 24 possible environments; multiply this by
>different versions of python/gd/tk/gtk/wx and the problem gets worse.

I was wondering why matplotlib strives to support so many backends...

>Let me know what you are trying to do, and I
>can give more targeted and appropriate advice....

I wrote a gui app in matlab that takes the fourier transform of a 
semi-infinite crystal. The point is to simulate X-ray diffraction (I work 
at the Cornell Synchrotron). The program is pretty good, from a science 
standpoint. I am considering publishing the work, but I wanted to make it 
open source. What's the point of doing work funded by the NSF if the public 
can't access it? So I am investigating rewriting the code using pygtk. I 
wanted something free and cross platform, and I need the vectorized matrix 
operations.

Aside from that specific project, I am just trying to get the interactive 
feel of matlab. I need to take some time to look carefully through all the 
documentation here, it seems all of my questions have had answers published 
on the web.

Darren  

John, thanks for the information, I will study these options.

In Matlab, set(gca,'FontSize',12) will have at least two effects. The 
fontsize of the tickmark labels will be set accordingly, and the set of 
tickmarks will be reasonably adjusted to prevent overlapping text. If a 
legend exists, the fonts there will also be changed. Axes labels are not 
affected. For example,

axes % returns empty plot, x and yrange=[0 1]
set(gca,'FontSize',12) %  tickmarks=[0:0.2:1]
set(gca,'FontSize',8) %  tickmarks=[0:0.1:1]
set(gca,'FontSize',20) %  tickmarks=[0:0.5:1]

The desired size of the tickmarks depends on whether I am creating a plot 
for publication, or for a talk. I find that I tweak this quite a bit in 
Matlab, looking for the most appealing result (I started in graphic design, 
10 years ago).

Darren

>>>>> "Darren" == Darren Dale <dd...@co...> writes:

    Darren> Hi All, interactive2.py, with GTK backend, is continually
    Darren> returning: 'Warning **: Couldnt load font "Tahoma Italic
    Darren> 8" falling back to "Sans Italic 8"


Basically you are experiencing a win32 GTK font bug.  

If GTKAgg is a possibility for you, I encourage you to use it.  You
can do an end-run around GTK's font handling with GTKAgg.  

Unfortunately, we do not have the resources to manage every backend
across every platform.  gtk, tk, wx, gd, ps, agg cross win32, osx,
linux, solaris equals 24 possible environments; multiply this by
different versions of python/gd/tk/gtk/wx and the problem gets worse.
Thus I encourage you and everyone to switch to TkAgg, GTKAgg or WXAgg
where possible.  Not only will you get the highest quality and
probably fastest rendering, you'll get the latest features and the
best support.  The other platforms are still supported, but not as
aggressively....

    Darren> I found this line in interactive2.py:
    Darren> self.style_err.set_property( "style", pango.STYLE_ITALIC )

    Darren> and checked GTK/etc/pango/pango.aliases. There is no
    Darren> mention of Tahoma fonts in this file.

    Darren> Any suggestions?

The fact that it is not mentioned in your pango.aliases file is
essentially the problem.  When GTK tries to load a font it can't find
it goes to this file to look for an alias.  Try mapping it to a known
good font on your system, as described in
http://matplotlib.sf.net/faq.html#WINFONTS.

The fact that you are using interactive2.py means you need an
interactive shell.  If you want interactivity from the python shell on
win32, I recommend TkAgg if it is a possibility for you.  Noting else
comes close for interactive use from the standard python shell,
particularly if you set

tk.window_focus   : True

in your .matplotlibrc.  Let me know what you are trying to do, and I
can give more targeted and appropriate advice....

JDH

>>>>> "Darren" == Darren Dale <dd...@co...> writes:

    Darren> Hi everyone, Is there an equivalent to the Matlab
    Darren> set(gca,'FontSize',12)?

There is no direct way to set the font size for the current axes.
Actually, I've never quite understood what that call does in matlab.
If I recall correctly, it does not set *all* the axes text instances
to that size; eg, I don't think it affects the tick labels.
Admittedly it's been a long time, mainly because I don't use matlab
much anymore :-).  If you know what this command does in matlab and
can explain it to me, I'm all ears!

However, in matplotlib, the font sizes of all the figure elements can
be controlled.  The best way to do this depends on what you are trying
to do.

Any text command, eg text, xlabel, ylabel, title, accepts the fontsize
kwarg, so you can specify the fontsize with, for example, 

  xlabel('my label', fontsize=14)

If you want more global control, at any point in a script's execution,
you can set the default font properties; see
examples/font_properties_demo.py in the matplotlib src distribution.

If you want to change the default fontsize for all figures created in
a given script/interactive session, you can set the rcParams font.size
attribute on a per script bases, as described in
http://matplotlib.sf.net/faq.html#CUSTOM.

Finally, if you want to change the default font size globally for all
figures in all scripts, you can edit your .matplotlibrc file, as
described in http://matplotlib.sf.net/faq.html#MATPLOTLIBRC

Hope this helps!
JDH

Hi All,

interactive2.py, with GTK backend, is continually returning: 'Warning **: 
Couldnt load font "Tahoma Italic 8" falling back to "Sans Italic 8"

I found this line in interactive2.py: self.style_err.set_property( "style", 
pango.STYLE_ITALIC )

and checked GTK/etc/pango/pango.aliases. There is no mention of Tahoma 
fonts in this file.

Any suggestions?

Darren

Hi everyone,

Is there an equivalent to the Matlab set(gca,'FontSize',12)?

>>>>> "Kenneth" == Kenneth McDonald <kmm...@wi...> writes:

    Kenneth> I've been using matplotlib for some plotting involving
    Kenneth> dated values, but wasn't able to figure out how to use
    Kenneth> the new plot_date with log axes. (I'm still a rank newbie

Very nice;  I haven't used property but I can see it is very useful
and I should be using it more....  

For the record, you can set the scaling on the x axis to be
logarithmic with

  ax.set_xscale('log')  

or

  set(gca(), 'xscale', 'log')

    Kenneth> at matplotlib.)  It struck me that an integer that "knew"
    Kenneth> it represented seconds since the epoch would be a neat
    Kenneth> way of feeding matplotlib's non-date functions the values
    Kenneth> they expected, while at the same time manipulating dates
    Kenneth> in my own code; and, since I'd just done a bit of reading
    Kenneth> of new-style classes in Python, came up with the
    Kenneth> following:

The other nice thing about this is that it can be used with bar,
scatter, etc. and all the tick locators and formatters still work.  I
wrote a little example using bar just to convince myself of this :-)

import datetime, time
from matplotlib.ticker import MinuteLocator, DateFormatter
from matplotlib.matlab import *



class intdate(int):
     '''Subclasses int for use as dates.'''
     def __init__(self, ordinal):
         int.__init__(self, ordinal)
         self.__date = datetime.date.fromtimestamp(ordinal)

     day = property(fget=lambda self:self.__date.day)
     month = property(fget=lambda self:self.__date.month)
     year = property(fget=lambda self:self.__date.year)

     def isoformat(self): return self.__date.isoformat()

     def timetuple(self): return self.__date.timetuple()

     def date(self): return self.__date

def epoch(x):
     'convert userland datetime instance x to epoch'
     return time.mktime(x.timetuple())

def date(year, month, day):
     return intdate(epoch(datetime.date(year, month, day)))

def today():
     return intdate(epoch(datetime.date.today()))



# simulate collecting data every minute starting at midnight
t0 = date(2004,04,27)
t = t0+arange(0, 2*3600, 60)  # 2 hours sampled every 2 minute
s = rand(len(t))

ax = subplot(111)
ax.xaxis.set_major_locator( MinuteLocator(20) )
ax.xaxis.set_major_formatter( DateFormatter('%H:%M') )
ax.bar(t, s, width=60)
show()

Do you mind if I include these date classes and functions in
matplotlib.dates?  I would probably need to rename the functions to
avoid clashing with other namespaces, something like epoch_to_intdate,
ymd_to_intdate, today_to_intdate.

Thanks!
John Hunter

I've been using matplotlib for some plotting involving dated
values, but wasn't able to figure out how to use the new
plot_date with log axes. (I'm still a rank newbie at matplotlib.)
It struck me that an integer that "knew" it represented
seconds since the epoch would be a neat way of feeding
matplotlib's non-date functions the values they expected,
while at the same time manipulating dates in my own code;
and, since I'd just done a bit of reading of new-style classes
in Python, came up with the following:


import datetime, time

class intdate(int):
     '''Subclasses int for use as dates.'''
     def __init__(self, ordinal):
         int.__init__(self, ordinal)
         self.__date = datetime.date.fromtimestamp(ordinal)

     day = property(fget=lambda self:self.__date.day)
     month = property(fget=lambda self:self.__date.month)
     year = property(fget=lambda self:self.__date.year)

     def isoformat(self): return self.__date.isoformat()

     def timetuple(self): return self.__date.timetuple()

     def date(self): return self.__date

def epoch(x):
     'convert userland datetime instance x to epoch'
     return time.mktime(x.timetuple())

def date(year, month, day):
     return intdate(epoch(datetime.date(year, month, day)))

def today():
     return intdate(epoch(datetime.date.today()))


Use 'today' and 'date' to create intdate instances. They
can be used in python wherever you would normally
use an integer (I believe), but can also be treated as
instances of the intdate class. They can't be used in
numarry/numeric of course, and certainly aren't suited
for use with large data sets, but I thought this was sorta
neat, in a nasty hacky kind of way. You could of course
expand the indate class; my needs were simple. It
would also be simple to reimplement some of the functions
so an internal instance of datetime wasn't necessary...

Too bad there isn't a standard C primitive type for representing
dates in some standardized numeric format, such as the epoch
style. But I thought some people might find this useful and/or
informative

Cheers,
Ken

Hi all,

I was using Red Hat 9 with matplotlib, but switched to Xandros (Debian
sarge based distro) recently.  I installed all the prerequisites, but
setup.py died compiling tkagg.  It didn't have the right include
directory for tk.h.  My tk.h is at /usr/include/tcl8.4/tk.h.

setupext.py does the following to get the tcl include directory

import Tkinter
tk = Tkinter.Tk()
...
o.tcl_inc = os.path.join((tk.getvar('tcl_library')), '../../include')

but tk.getvar('tcl_library') gives '/usr/lib/tcl8.4' so the right
directory isn't found.

As a workaround I just hard-coded o.tcl_inc in the setupext.py and it
worked fine.  I don't know what the general solution is.

Thanks,
Greg

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Straw [mailto:str...@as...]
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 3:09 PM
> To: matplotlib-users; John Hunter; Randy Heiland
> Subject: Re: [Matplotlib-users] reading jpegs
> 
> 
> On Apr 26, 2004, at 11:26 AM, John Hunter wrote:
> 
> >>>>>> "Randy" == Randy Heiland <he...@in...> writes:
> >
> >     Randy> I'm admittedly being a bit lazy, but does matplotlib let
me
> >     Randy> read in/manipulate jpeg images?  I'd like to do some
custom
> >     Randy> cropping and resizing.
> >
> > Not currently, but I would like to add load_png and load_jpg to the
> > image module.
> >
> > For basic image resizing and cropping see ImageMagick's convert
> > function - the swiss army knife of image manipulation tools.
> >
> 
> Or if you want to do it in Python, use the Python Imaging Library
(PIL).
> 

Yep, this is the approach I'm taking - thanks!

On Apr 26, 2004, at 11:26 AM, John Hunter wrote:

>>>>>> "Randy" == Randy Heiland <he...@in...> writes:
>
>     Randy> I'm admittedly being a bit lazy, but does matplotlib let me
>     Randy> read in/manipulate jpeg images?  I'd like to do some custom
>     Randy> cropping and resizing.
>
> Not currently, but I would like to add load_png and load_jpg to the
> image module.
>
> For basic image resizing and cropping see ImageMagick's convert
> function - the swiss army knife of image manipulation tools.
>

Or if you want to do it in Python, use the Python Imaging Library (PIL).

Cheers!
Andrew

John,

Here's the results of find_tcltk:

light:> python find_tcl.py
system linux2
tcl include: /d2/gerry/local/ActivePython-2.3/lib/tcl8.4/../../include True
tcl lib: /d2/gerry/local/ActivePython-2.3/lib/tcl8.4/../ True
tcl version: tk8.4

--Gerry

John Hunter wrote:

>>>>>>"Todd" == Todd Miller <jm...@st...> writes:
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>
>
>    Todd> As JDH suggested, -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXaw sounds like a
>    Todd> good idea.  It's possible that Tk and Tcl will need
>    Todd> something similar.  Have you tried anything like this yet?
>
>Gerry, could you run this script and post the results?
>
>import sys, os
>class FoundTclTk:
>    pass
>
>def find_tcltk():
>    """Finds Tcl/Tk includes/libraries/version by interrogating Tkinter."""
>    try:
>	import Tkinter
>    except:
>	print "Tkinter not properly installed\n"
>	sys.exit(1)
>    if Tkinter.TkVersion < 8.3:
>	print "Tcl/Tk v8.3 or later required\n"
>	sys.exit(1)
>    o = FoundTclTk()
>    try:
>	tk=Tkinter.Tk()	
>    except Tkinter.TclError:
>	print "Using default library and include directories for Tcl and Tk because a"
>	print "Tk window failed to open.  You may need to define DISPLAY for Tk to work"
>	print "so that setup can determine where your libraries are located."
>	o.tcl_lib = "/usr/local/lib"
>	o.tcl_inc = "/usr/local/include"
>	o.tk_lib = "/usr/local/lib"
>	o.tkv = ""
>    else:
>	tk.withdraw()
>	o.tcl_lib = os.path.join((tk.getvar('tcl_library')), '../')
>
>	o.tk_lib = os.path.join((tk.getvar('tk_library')), '../')
>	o.tcl_inc = os.path.join((tk.getvar('tcl_library')), '../../include')
>	o.tkv = str(Tkinter.TkVersion)[:3]
>        if not os.path.exists(o.tcl_inc):
>            o.tcl_inc = os.path.join((tk.getvar('tcl_library')), '../../include/tcl'+o.tkv)        
>        if not os.path.exists(o.tcl_inc):
>            print 'cannot find tcl/tk headers. giving up.'
>            sys.exit()
>
>    return o
>
>o = find_tcltk()
>print 'system', sys.platform
>print 'tcl include:', o.tcl_inc, os.path.exists(o.tcl_inc)
>print 'tcl lib:', o.tcl_lib, os.path.exists(o.tcl_lib)
>print 'tcl version:', 'tk'+o.tkv
>  
>

John Hunter wrote:

>>>>>>"Gerry" == Gerry Wiener <ge...@uc...> writes:
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>
>    Gerry> Here's the output from ldd _tkagg.so:
>
>That looks bizarre to me; on my system (RHL9) _tkagg.so links with
>libtk, libtcl, libX11 and others.  You are not even linking with the
>Tcl/Tk libs.  It might be worthwhile to do a clean build and post the
>build results.
>
> > cd /your/path/to/matplotlib_src
> > rm -rf build
> > python setup.py build >& build.out
>
>JDH
>
>  
>
John,

Please note that I made the following modifications to setup.py:


BUILD_AGG = 1

BUILD_GTKAGG       = False

BUILD_TKAGG        = 1

BUILD_WINDOWING        = False

Regards,

Gerry

Here's the contents of build.out:

running build
running build_py
creating build
creating build/lib.linux-i686-2.3
creating build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/__init__.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/_matlab_helpers.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/afm.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/artist.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/axes.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/axis.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/backend_bases.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/cbook.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/colors.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/dates.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/figure.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/finance.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/font_manager.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/image.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/legend.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/lines.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/mathtext.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/matlab.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/mlab.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/numerix.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/patches.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/postinstall.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/pyparsing.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/setupext.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/table.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/text.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/ticker.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/transforms.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
copying matplotlib/windowing.py -> build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib
creating build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib/backends
copying matplotlib/backends/__init__.py -> 
build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib/backends
copying matplotlib/backends/backend_agg.py -> 
build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib/backends
copying matplotlib/backends/backend_gd.py -> 
build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib/backends
copying matplotlib/backends/backend_gtk.py -> 
build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib/backends
copying matplotlib/backends/backend_gtkagg.py -> 
build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib/backends
copying matplotlib/backends/backend_gtkgd.py -> 
build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib/backends
copying matplotlib/backends/backend_paint.py -> 
build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib/backends
copying matplotlib/backends/backend_ps.py -> 
build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib/backends
copying matplotlib/backends/backend_template.py -> 
build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib/backends
copying matplotlib/backends/backend_tkagg.py -> 
build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib/backends
copying matplotlib/backends/backend_wx.py -> 
build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib/backends
copying matplotlib/backends/backend_wxagg.py -> 
build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib/backends
copying matplotlib/backends/tkagg.py -> 
build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib/backends
running build_ext
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-I/d2/gerry/local/include -Isrc -Iagg2/include -I/d2/gerry/local/include 
-I/d2/gerry/local/ActivePython-2.3/lib/tcl8.4/../../include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 -Isrc/freetype2 
-Iagg2/include/freetype2 -I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/ActivePython-2.3/include/python2.3 -c src/_tkagg.cpp 
-o build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/src/_tkagg.o
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-g -Df2cFortran -I/d2/gerry/local/ActiveTcl/include 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/src/_tkagg.o 
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build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_gen_stroke.o
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-I/d2/gerry/local/include -I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
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build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_bezier_arc.o
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build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_rasterizer_scanline_aa.o
/usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/bin/gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -g -Df2cFortran -I/d2/gerry/local/ActiveTcl/include 
-fPIC -I/d2/gerry/local/include -Isrc -Iagg2/include 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include -I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-Isrc/freetype2 -Iagg2/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/ActivePython-2.3/include/python2.3 -c 
src/_backend_agg.cpp -o build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/src/_backend_agg.o
In file included from 
/d2/gerry/local/ActivePython-2.3/include/python2.3/Python.h:8,
                 from src/ft2font.h:6,
                 from src/_backend_agg.cpp:3:
/d2/gerry/local/ActivePython-2.3/include/python2.3/pyconfig.h:847:1: 
warning: "_POSIX_C_SOURCE" redefined
In file included from /usr/include/string.h:26,
                 from /usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/include/c++/3.2.2/cstring:51,
                 from src/_backend_agg.cpp:1:
/usr/include/features.h:131:1: warning: this is the location of the 
previous definition
/usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/bin/gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -g -Df2cFortran -I/d2/gerry/local/ActiveTcl/include 
-fPIC -I/d2/gerry/local/include -Isrc -Iagg2/include 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include -I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-Isrc/freetype2 -Iagg2/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/ActivePython-2.3/include/python2.3 -c 
agg2/src/agg_arrowhead.cpp -o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_arrowhead.o
/usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/bin/gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -g -Df2cFortran -I/d2/gerry/local/ActiveTcl/include 
-fPIC -I/d2/gerry/local/include -Isrc -Iagg2/include 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include -I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-Isrc/freetype2 -Iagg2/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/ActivePython-2.3/include/python2.3 -c src/ft2font.c -o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/src/ft2font.o
src/ft2font.c: In function `FT2Font_clear':
src/ft2font.c:319: warning: unused variable `i'
src/ft2font.c: At top level:
src/ft2font.c:1160: warning: return type defaults to `int'
src/ft2font.c: In function `initft2font':
src/ft2font.c:1205: warning: control reaches end of non-void function
/usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/bin/gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -g -Df2cFortran -I/d2/gerry/local/ActiveTcl/include 
-fPIC -I/d2/gerry/local/include -Isrc -Iagg2/include 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include -I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-Isrc/freetype2 -Iagg2/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/ActivePython-2.3/include/python2.3 -c 
agg2/src/agg_trans_warp_magnifier.cpp -o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_trans_warp_magnifier.o
/usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/bin/gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -g -Df2cFortran -I/d2/gerry/local/ActiveTcl/include 
-fPIC -I/d2/gerry/local/include -Isrc -Iagg2/include 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include -I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-Isrc/freetype2 -Iagg2/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/ActivePython-2.3/include/python2.3 -c 
agg2/src/agg_gen_smooth_poly1.cpp -o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_gen_smooth_poly1.o
/usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/bin/gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -g -Df2cFortran -I/d2/gerry/local/ActiveTcl/include 
-fPIC -I/d2/gerry/local/include -Isrc -Iagg2/include 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include -I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-Isrc/freetype2 -Iagg2/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/ActivePython-2.3/include/python2.3 -c 
agg2/src/agg_rounded_rect.cpp -o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_rounded_rect.o
/usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/bin/gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -g -Df2cFortran -I/d2/gerry/local/ActiveTcl/include 
-fPIC -I/d2/gerry/local/include -Isrc -Iagg2/include 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include -I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-Isrc/freetype2 -Iagg2/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/ActivePython-2.3/include/python2.3 -c 
agg2/src/agg_gsv_text.cpp -o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_gsv_text.o
/usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/bin/gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -g -Df2cFortran -I/d2/gerry/local/ActiveTcl/include 
-fPIC -I/d2/gerry/local/include -Isrc -Iagg2/include 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include -I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-Isrc/freetype2 -Iagg2/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/ActivePython-2.3/include/python2.3 -c 
agg2/src/agg_image_filters.cpp -o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_image_filters.o
/usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/bin/gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -g -Df2cFortran -I/d2/gerry/local/ActiveTcl/include 
-fPIC -I/d2/gerry/local/include -Isrc -Iagg2/include 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include -I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-Isrc/freetype2 -Iagg2/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/include/freetype2 
-I/d2/gerry/local/ActivePython-2.3/include/python2.3 -c 
agg2/src/agg_curves.cpp -o build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_curves.o
/usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/bin/g++ -pthread -shared -L/usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/lib 
-g -Df2cFortran -I/d2/gerry/local/ActiveTcl/include 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/src/_backend_agg.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/src/ft2font.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_affine_matrix.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_arc.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_arrowhead.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_bezier_arc.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_bspline.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_curves.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_gen_contour.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_gen_dash.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_gen_markers_term.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_gen_smooth_poly1.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_gen_stroke.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_gsv_text.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_image_filters.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_line_aa_basics.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_line_profile_aa.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_path_storage.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_rasterizer_scanline_aa.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_rounded_rect.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_scanline_u8.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_sqrt_tables.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_trans_warp_magnifier.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_vpgen_clip_polygon.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_vpgen_segmentator.o 
-L/d2/gerry/local/lib -L/d2/gerry/local/lib -lpng -lstdc++ -lm 
-lfreetype -lz -lm -o 
build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib/backends/_backend_agg.so
building 'matplotlib.ft2font' extension
gcc -pthread -shared -L/usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/lib -g -Df2cFortran 
-I/d2/gerry/local/ActiveTcl/include 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/src/ft2font.o -L/d2/gerry/local/lib -lfreetype 
-lz -lm -o build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib/ft2font.so
building 'matplotlib._image' extension
/usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/bin/gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -g -Df2cFortran -I/d2/gerry/local/ActiveTcl/include 
-fPIC -I/d2/gerry/local/include -Isrc -Iagg2/include 
-I/d2/gerry/local/ActivePython-2.3/include/python2.3 -c src/_image.cpp 
-o build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/src/_image.o
In file included from 
/d2/gerry/local/ActivePython-2.3/include/python2.3/Python.h:8,
                 from src/_image.cpp:5:
/d2/gerry/local/ActivePython-2.3/include/python2.3/pyconfig.h:847:1: 
warning: "_POSIX_C_SOURCE" redefined
In file included from 
/usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/include/c++/3.2.2/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bits/os_defines.h:39,
                 from 
/usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/include/c++/3.2.2/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bits/c++config.h:34,
                 from /usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/include/c++/3.2.2/iosfwd:44,
                 from /usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/include/c++/3.2.2/ios:44,
                 from /usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/include/c++/3.2.2/istream:44,
                 from /usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/include/c++/3.2.2/fstream:45,
                 from src/_image.cpp:2:
/usr/include/features.h:131:1: warning: this is the location of the 
previous definition
/usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/bin/g++ -pthread -shared -L/usr/local/gcc-3.2.2/lib 
-g -Df2cFortran -I/d2/gerry/local/ActiveTcl/include 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/src/_image.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_affine_matrix.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_arc.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_arrowhead.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_bezier_arc.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_bspline.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_curves.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_gen_contour.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_gen_dash.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_gen_markers_term.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_gen_smooth_poly1.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_gen_stroke.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_gsv_text.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_image_filters.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_line_aa_basics.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_line_profile_aa.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_path_storage.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_rasterizer_scanline_aa.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_rounded_rect.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_scanline_u8.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_sqrt_tables.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_trans_warp_magnifier.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_vpgen_clip_polygon.o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.3/agg2/src/agg_vpgen_segmentator.o 
-L/d2/gerry/local/lib -lpng -lstdc++ -lm -o 
build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/matplotlib/_image.so

>>>>> "Todd" == Todd Miller <jm...@st...> writes:


    Todd> As JDH suggested, -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXaw sounds like a
    Todd> good idea.  It's possible that Tk and Tcl will need
    Todd> something similar.  Have you tried anything like this yet?

Gerry, could you run this script and post the results?

import sys, os
class FoundTclTk:
    pass

def find_tcltk():
    """Finds Tcl/Tk includes/libraries/version by interrogating Tkinter."""
    try:
	import Tkinter
    except:
	print "Tkinter not properly installed\n"
	sys.exit(1)
    if Tkinter.TkVersion < 8.3:
	print "Tcl/Tk v8.3 or later required\n"
	sys.exit(1)
    o = FoundTclTk()
    try:
	tk=Tkinter.Tk()	
    except Tkinter.TclError:
	print "Using default library and include directories for Tcl and Tk because a"
	print "Tk window failed to open.  You may need to define DISPLAY for Tk to work"
	print "so that setup can determine where your libraries are located."
	o.tcl_lib = "/usr/local/lib"
	o.tcl_inc = "/usr/local/include"
	o.tk_lib = "/usr/local/lib"
	o.tkv = ""
    else:
	tk.withdraw()
	o.tcl_lib = os.path.join((tk.getvar('tcl_library')), '../')

	o.tk_lib = os.path.join((tk.getvar('tk_library')), '../')
	o.tcl_inc = os.path.join((tk.getvar('tcl_library')), '../../include')
	o.tkv = str(Tkinter.TkVersion)[:3]
        if not os.path.exists(o.tcl_inc):
            o.tcl_inc = os.path.join((tk.getvar('tcl_library')), '../../include/tcl'+o.tkv)        
        if not os.path.exists(o.tcl_inc):
            print 'cannot find tcl/tk headers. giving up.'
            sys.exit()

    return o

o = find_tcltk()
print 'system', sys.platform
print 'tcl include:', o.tcl_inc, os.path.exists(o.tcl_inc)
print 'tcl lib:', o.tcl_lib, os.path.exists(o.tcl_lib)
print 'tcl version:', 'tk'+o.tkv

>>>>> "Randy" == Randy Heiland <he...@in...> writes:

    Randy> I'm admittedly being a bit lazy, but does matplotlib let me
    Randy> read in/manipulate jpeg images?  I'd like to do some custom
    Randy> cropping and resizing.

Not currently, but I would like to add load_png and load_jpg to the
image module.

For basic image resizing and cropping see ImageMagick's convert
function - the swiss army knife of image manipulation tools.

> man convert

JDH