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- Nguyentrongphu [ Global Accounts ]
Apr 8 2022
@Pginer-WMF The solution is redundant since there is already a big message (as soon as they get into CT) telling those users that they can't publish with CT.
Mar 3 2022
@Pginer-WMF Unfortunately, it's the only possible effective solution considering our man power. A new user can gain a little more experience before being able to use CT, no big deal. Btw, we speak Vietnamese, not Thai.
Feb 13 2022
CT abuse does not limit to competition. It happens all year around during competition and without it. It's a very serious issue that has been running rampant for years in Vi Wikipedia. Therefore, the community has decided to take measure that has been proven to be effective.
Feb 12 2022
@santhosh First of all, why Vietnamese Wikipedia's request is being ignored? Each Wiki should decide a solution for itself depending on how severe the CT problem is.
Feb 2 2022
@Pginer-WMF I think each Wiki should come up with their own solution depending on how severe the CT problem is. The problem has been running rampant for years in Vi Wikipedia (numbering dozens of thousands of articles). It only became manageable when we decided to restrict CT to extended confirmed users by using abuse filter. The solution has been proven to be effective. The left-over abusers can be dealt with by blocking.
Feb 1 2022
@Pginer-WMF I'm not sure why we are having this discussion when the consensus is very clear.
Jan 24 2022
@Pginer-WMF the problem is that many people have found a way to cheat (copy from CT and publish outside). This has been happening for years. It would be a little inconvenience for a professional translator to write an article without CT, yes. However, it's a good trade off. Lastly, 500 edits are not too high. In any case, we'll let you know what the consensus will be.
Jan 21 2022
@Pginer-WMF, I understand that checking the content is more fair, but we simply do not have the man power to do this every day for every single article that comes out of CT. Bad translation has been a very severe problem on Wikipedia Vi for many years. The community has decided to take the drastic measure to protect the quality of Wikipedia Vi. Currently, we're having a second discussion to measure the consensus again.
Apr 15 2021
I've provided another sound alternative solution that is easier to implement (technical aspect). Pginer and I had a discussion about the pro's and con's of each solution. See here.