User talk:MZMcBride

October 2007 – December 2008

Tidy a design?

Hi. I’m definitely interested. I've only a wee bit of m:experience, so I'm not quite sure where to start looking ... will nose about. There’s likely a history to the design and a whole sandbox. It looks like I’ll be needing a few more fonts; “Bishnupriya Manipuri” probably isn‘t User:Bishonen-speak. Cheers, Jack Merridew 03:46, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey. The code is loaded from a (fully-protected) page: Www.wikipedia.org template. It has a /temp subpage. (It also appears to have worked with Www.wikipedia.org portal in the past, but that page is now deprecated.) I may be able to make something that allows for live previewing the code, as it has to be in raw HTML. Would that be helpful? And at some point we need to advertise somewhere.... --MZMcBride 04:22, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll have a look. I've been busy reading the latest en:wp drama; you've posted there, so you'll know the one. Cheers, Jack Merridew 07:30, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Subsequent discussion moved to Talk:Www.wikipedia.org template#Redesigning. --MZMcBride 23:59, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

sync wikiquote, please

I've been looking around at the siblings of this and found and fixed an issue with www.wikiquote.org

• here l/r margin was inadvertently introduced to one of the bookshelves and this results in a slight hscrollbar. No one noticed?
• here I've fixed it as well as made some of the same tweaks I've made here; just a few.

I'm gonna review all of them; looking for ideas, issues. If we push www.wikipedia.org further the others will have to tag along.

• I tweaked www.wikinews.org, too, and it should be synced; more minor issues there.

Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:38, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Looks like Alexanderps and mxn beat me to it. --MZMcBride 23:51, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Orbiting links

• fyi; Talk:Www.wikipedia.org template#Orbiting links

Cheers, Jack Merridew 14:56, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Take a look

• • • editor J.delanoy, you can not and DO not remove what I put on someones PERSONAL talk page.

Thought this might interest you, before this aticle was neutral and list all point of views, someone removed all the sources of the article including large amounts of information and references, and turned it into this essay format of their personal beliefs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_race_controversy I don't know what to call this other than racism and a certain group of admins (who always end up on race topics or bring up races) banding together to abuse their power (manly user Paul Barlow, and Dbachmann) the same editors are the ones on the admin notice boards and if you post a complaint about them or a friend they remove it76.118.238.21 15:49, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

You sound like you need the local wiki's dispute resolution system. Try w:Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. Sorry I can't be of more assistance (this really isn't my strong area). Cheers. --MZMcBride 19:46, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Ninja request ;)

Details at:

• User talk:Cbrown1023#project portals

Cheers, Jack Merridew 12:41, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Above is done; following is needed asap:

• Talk:Www.wikibooks.org template#need a sync, stat

Cheers, Jack Merridew 15:55, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

What the hell

...is not a reason. Please provide a rationale where people can see it. Thanks  — Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 03:28, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

I thought it was self-evident why blacklisting an entire ccTLD is a poor idea. Clarified now. Love you. --MZMcBride 03:36, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey, nothing personal, but this one should have been discussed first due to the problem with spam links and redirects. Please restore it, or join in the discussion. Thanks. --Ckatz 10:16, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. I've commented on the appropriate page and have it watchlisted now. --MZMcBride 10:42, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a million

Thank you for the unblock, Mr. McBride. You're a man's man. -- Thekohser 20:53, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks.

Thanks. I thought I had updated that on all the various projects. Must have missed this one. JoshuaZ 02:35, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Out of curiosity, what's the backstory there? Just taking a break or something? --MZMcBride 02:38, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Er no. The story is quite dramalicious. I was accused of sockpuppetry which I denied but I resigned since the ArbCom was very convinced. I am I believe one of only two cases where in order to get the tools back I would need to ask ArbCom before a new RfA (for reasons that aren't completely clear to me). I'm surprised you missed all that. How did you know I was a former admin but not know those details? JoshuaZ 02:52, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I've got a script installed that puts user rights next to a user's name on their user and user talk pages (w:User:Splarka/sysopdectector.js). I figured the information from 2006 was accurate. Interesting that you, of all people I guess, are dragging the English Wikipedia's Arbitration Committee onto Meta, then.... --MZMcBride 02:56, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, to be blunt, I think they can be a bunch of idiots. But there's a very precise reason that I haven't applied for OTRS tools and that's that ArbCom ruling. I've thought on and off of applying for OTRS access and if I did so, I'd at minimum explicitly say that "hey, there's this issue which is still outstanding." And I'd agree that it would be a strong argument that I shouldn't be given OTRS access. Frankly, your decision to not mention the issue in your OTRS application bugged me about as much as the issue itself. If you had mentioned it I likely would have stayed out. JoshuaZ 03:02, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Vector page

I'm readding the link to the official FAQ. I'd sure appreciate it if you left it there. While I get your sense of humor, I think it's inappropriate in this case. Please stop. Philippe (WMF) 00:03, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Why are you using a staff account? --MZMcBride 01:41, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Interwiki requests

Thanks for fast accepting my request about wmru interwiki. Maybe you do review for my two other requests: adding Semantic-MediaWiki.org and updating Creative Commons ? --Kaganer 12:15, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Liquidthreads.labs request

Plese per for request permissions at [1] --minhhuy*= 01:16, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Decision-making from behind a drawn curtain

There is an underlying issue behind some of Wikimedia's latest actions. It isn't really specific to the recent interlanguage link display dispute, but it's certainly present there.

In short, there's a complete lack of engagement and dialogue between the Wikimedia Foundation and the community. Some of this lack of communication was pointed out in a separate thread on this very list. We're seeing a few labs sites put up and criticism is certainly being voiced (on the blog, on the labs sites, on this list), but it's pretty clear that it's falling on purposefully deaf ears.

Every once in a while, a staffer will emerge from an internal meeting or discussion, proclaim something, and then slip back behind the wall. If the archives were working correctly, this would be easier to demonstrate, though anyone who is subscribed should look at the responses from Howie Fung and Erik Moeller from this past week. You see comments like "we discussed this internally" and this is what we decided. Or you have comments like "the Usability team discussed this issue at length this afternoon," followed by a list of further actions that the Usability team feels entitled to make.

What's missing? Dialogue, discussion, and debate about the recent changes. A healthy exchange of ideas and a reasonable defense of the design decisions that were made. You don't have a dialogue, you have a series of edicts. And that's really unacceptable for an organization like Wikimedia, an organization that should be serving its community.

Part of what we're seeing, played out throughout the course of the Usability team's existence, are the issues that emerge from having too many masters. Receiving directed grant money should not give a group more power in MediaWiki development, but that isn't what is happening in practice. In practice, the people signing the paychecks are the ones who are being listened to; the community that the Wikimedia Foundation is supposed to be serving is being ignored. Not just a few vocal critics on the mailing list, the broader Wikimedia community is being pushed aside.

It is not specific to the Usability team's recent actions, but they are a particularly good example of the larger unacceptable problem.

MZMcBride 19:58, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Test subject 1

Test message 1. --EdwardsBot 23:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Test subject 2

¡Test message 2! --EdwardsBot (talk) 23:12, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

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Bot block

Okay. I'll leave it blocked for now then; that's prolly easiest, especially if you don't care either way. Thanks for getting in touch. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 00:11, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Enable editnotices

Would you mind enabling editnotices for this wiki, similar to Commons or Enwp?  ℳono  03:28, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

There's a page for admin requests somewhere. Use it. --MZMcBride 20:47, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Testing

Test test test. --EdwardsBot 20:12, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Talking to ourself, are we? Philippe (WMF) 05:48, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Lies. --EdwardsBot 05:50, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Bot test example

Posting for posterity here as requested. I'll poke you on IRC. Jalexander

Header searched	wiki/page	userpage links counted
Fundraising Banners!	w:cs:Wikipedie:Pod_lípou	1
Fundraising time is around the corner! / Közeleg az idei adománygyűjtő kampány!	w:hu:Wikipédia:Kocsmafal_(egyéb)	4
Fundraising_time_is_around_the_corner!	w:rw:Wikipedia:Community_Portal	1
2010_Fundraising_Is_Almost_Here	w:ca:Viquipèdia:La_taverna/Arxius/Novetats/Recent	5

EdwardsBot

Hi, I saw EdwardsBot active on nl.wikipedia. Since I have a lot of userpages on my watchlist the botedits showed up alot. Could you perhaps request a botflag for EdwardsBot so it won't show in the watchlist anymore? Local botflag requests for nl.wikipedia can be made at w:nl:WP:AB. If you specify that the bot is only used to deliver the Signpost, there will probably be no objections. Kind regards, Taketa 17:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi! Here you go. --MZMcBride 19:58, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Jimmyface

Hey, we're going to be testing some banners the next few days that should have less of the "creepy jimmyface" factor. You've been around long enough to see the various iterations of jimmyface, so I'd like your opinion on the new ones when they come up (if you have the time). You can catch me on IRC or email, or my meta talk page. Thanks! Regards, ⇒DanRosenthal ^{Wikipedia Contribution Team} 01:40, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Note

Hello MZMcBride. I am sorry but I've undid your recent addition to MediaWiki:Common.js because since you added it some scripts starting failing, /secure.js was one of them. Regards, --dferg ^{☎ talk} 22:30, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Eep. I tried putting the code higher up, which seems to work (the signature button works and so does /secure.js). Let me know if you notice any other problems. --MZMcBride 23:23, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Still not working for me. Sorry. --dferg ^{☎ talk} 17:29, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Make sure you've bypassed your cache? You can also try logging out to see if it's something in your personal JS that's causing an error. --MZMcBride 23:08, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Logged-out but viewing the pages in the secure server it works, but logged in (and with the caché bypassed) it doesn't. Curious that it started happening since that script was added :-) I'll try to fix it myself. Thanks, --dferg ^{☎ talk} 14:57, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Apology

Sorry for not notifying you about my comment here. I was trying to make the point that we have current admins on the project that would be affected by the strict interpretation of the new requirement, and you just happened to be the first example I found. In retrospect it would have been a better idea to raise that point without naming anyone in particular. Jafeluv 08:05, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

No worries. I read the comment with a much more sinister undertone than I think was ever intended. That was my mistake. --MZMcBride 08:06, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

pl:User:EdwardsBot

I think you should apply for a bot flag on this page. Abronikowski 17:24, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Okay, done. Let me know how it turns out. --MZMcBride 21:30, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

flag granted :) masti <dyskusja> 21:57, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Whoa, that was quick. Thanks. :-) --MZMcBride 21:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Scary, McBride with his own robot army. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 22:34, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit notice blah

Hi. Is there a way to make this work? If you couldn't tell, I was trying to make an edit notice that would show for anyone trying to edit a subpage of IRC office hours (i.e. log pages). Also, I've considered using text from w:wp:editnotice and surrounding pages to create a page to document editnotices on meta and/or mediawikiwiki. That would seem useful especially since enwiki operates differently with editnotices than other wikis do. I couldn't find documentation elsewhere. Killiondude 08:08, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Hoi. I fixed that for you. Editnotices automatically display on subpages. True story. If you want to write documentation, write it at mediawiki.org; most MediaWiki documentation on Meta-Wiki has been moved to mediawiki.org (and with good reason!). Thanks, --MZMcBride 15:46, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

I see what you did there (x2). Thanks! Killiondude 17:26, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Muchas gracias...

...for the redirects. Steven Walling at work 22:06, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Steven is speaking in Spanish. Too much time in California!!! Killiondude 22:48, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Cálmate, chico. De nada, Steven. --MZMcBride 03:18, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikimedia_Forum#IRC_office_hours_notification

Wikimedia_Forum#IRC_office_hours_notification - Can you make this happen? Chzz 23:38, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I think I already did the difficult part (writing the global delivery system). What more do you need from me? If you want to be on the access list, ask a Meta-Wiki admin to add you (one who's preferably impartial). Then you can deliver globally to your heart's content. --MZMcBride 23:43, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Regarding an edit

Please dont' remove the signatures from the election committee pages as with this edit. They're there for a reason... it makes it easier for us to tell "at a glance" who confirmed the diff. Yes, we'll check them all later, but please allow us this courtesy. Philippe (WMF) 06:12, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Why would a diff need to be confirmed? Or rather, how would a user signature confirm a diff? You're not making any sense. Philippe (WMF) 06:15, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the witty repartee there with signing my name. Very clever. We are confirming, for instance, that the diff is what it appears to be and that the candidate is in fact the person linked in the diff. Philippe (WMF) 06:19, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Ah, right. Confirming that the diff is. How existential. Well, okay.

And yes, people would kill for my wit and charm. --MZMcBride 06:39, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Watcher

Hey MZMcBride, since two days I have a problem with Your watcher tool. I'm not longer logged in, but I can log me in and get the following message:

login

You're now logged in! Proceed to watcher? (Example)

license · bugs

After clicking on watcher? I'm not logged in - see example link above. What's the problem? Best regards --Astrobeamer 22:13, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Dunno. Try clearing your browser cache or deleting the associated cookies? --MZMcBride 03:36, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

THX for Your Tips, deleting cookies was the solution. --Astrobeamer 12:38, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

CentralNotice banner guidelines

Hi,

I noticed that Fundraising 2010/Banner guide is about how to *create* the banners, but the page you created is more about whether they should be created. Perhaps merge both into CentralNotice/Banner guidelines (to keep with CentralNotice: namespace)?

Thanks,

The Helpful One 16:37, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't see how a merge would be appropriate. They're completely different pages. --MZMcBride 17:21, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay, perhaps move the Fundraising one to a more appropriate location though? The Helpful One 17:24, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't think there'd be any issue with putting everything under CentralNotice/. Those two pages in particular, though, are intended for different purposes and different audiences. Feel free to move as you see fit. --MZMcBride 17:45, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

instant archive talk page

mr, I want to talk about modifying the link to the "Erik Evrest/Arsip 2011 [at] Indonesian Wikipedia" becomes simply "Erik Evrest [at] Indonesian Wikipedia" in Global message delivery/Targets/Signpost. In part, prior to amendment is actually a link to the archive page so that talks can be directly archived. However I will still look / read through the pages of my watchlist. So it may not revise edits to restore it? because if it stays on the talk page (not the archive page) then I would be tired to move messages that I received as another user --Erik Evrest 07:46, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi. The bot doesn't understand magic words such as {{CURRENTYEAR}}. Maybe one day it will. Today it doesn't. --MZMcBride 13:08, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Change to Toolserver checker?

Has there been a change in the script to Checker? http://toolserver.org/~mzmcbride/checker/?db=enwikisource_p&title=Index%3AIn+Flanders+Fields+-+1921.djvu isn't giving results for s:Index:In Flanders Fields - 1921.djvu, seeing results for some, but not for others. billinghurst sDrewth 09:06, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

No change, just shitty coding. I fixed it just now.

This code:

clean_title = title.replace(' ','_').lstrip(index_namespace+':')

should be:

clean_title = title.replace(' ','_').split(index_namespace+':', 1)[1]

All better now! --MZMcBride 15:19, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Watcher again

Hey MZMcBride, what's today going wrong with your tool? After Login (i did not logout) I see this message: Sorry, you're not on the access list. But I am on the list. Deleting cache and cookies did not help. Greetings from --Astrobeamer 18:47, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

The Toolserver is broken. --MZMcBride 23:21, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I hate this Toolserver... Good night from germany to you --Astrobeamer 23:51, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but here is a new question: Is it possible to fix the problem with the "broken" toolserver? The problem is now existing for more than 24 hours. The tool itself works and there is only a problem for <30 watchers. I think that there should exist a solution for this problem. Sorry for my school english. Best regards from --Astrobeamer 23:07, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Hm. Sucks to be s3. Killiondude 23:21, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

5864 hours? I think this server has lost the real date. Could somebody inform the admins of the toolserver? I am not fit in doing this. Thanks for the information. --Astrobeamer 23:39, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

This must not be right. The template Toolserver shows wrong values for s3. I talked to one of the toolserver boys, User DaB. If somebody speaks german, he can read this discussion. --Astrobeamer 14:46, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Toolserver admins are usually quickly aware of problems, but often they can do little to fix them quickly. Defective hardware needs replacements which takes time. There is hardly any stock of all sorts of replacement parts in the computing center. Once hardware is working again, catching up data base replication may again take days. I believe, the toolserver cluster is somewhere near the point where you need to spend ten times the money so as to get a ten percent reduction of downtimes. It's an economic question, and the toolserver lives on donated money. --Purodha Blissenbach 08:46, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Hallo to everybody, perhaps here is a solution: I used my old example link in the section above and could not believe it, but i'm now logged in! Please try it. Greetings --Astrobeamer 17:47, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=445003959&oldid=444991463 --MZMcBride 18:47, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Ok, my edit above was no solution, but by pure chance the problem on the toolserver did not longer exist. :-) -- Astrobeamer 19:25, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Re: /Spam

Thanks. I shall try to check for such typos in future (I'm hoping to extend my en.wp bot to meta to remove human error entirely, but in the meantime...). Jarry1250 07:46, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

hideprefix

Thanks! Good idea! Ijon 01:29, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Notice of review of adminship

Hello,

In accordance with Meta:Administrators/Removal and because you have made fewer than ten logged actions over the past six months, your adminship is under review at Meta:Administrators/Removal/October 2011. If you would like to retain your adminship, please sign there before October 10, 2011. Kind regards, vvv^t 17:06, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Watcher namespace aliases

--- watcher.py  2011-08-15 17:27:55.724710000 +0000
+++ /home/dispenser/watcher_mz.py       2011-10-09 02:46:49.011121000 +0000
@@ -94,7 +94,7 @@
       page_is_redirect,
       COUNT(*)
     FROM watchlist
-    JOIN toolserver.namespace
+    JOIN toolserver.namespacenname
     ON dbname = %s
     AND wl_namespace = ns_id
     LEFT JOIN page

toolserver.namespace is deprecated, use toolserver.namespacenname which supports aliases and English namespace identifiers. Dispenser 02:50, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: Making URLs protocol-relative

Sure, make AnankeBot bot + sysop. Do you want me to change URLs only in MediaWiki namespace or everywhere? If everywhere, should I change also magic links (which would need to become normal links with a title) or not? Beware that I don't know anything of JS and similar things, so I'll do only the simple replacements, not JS coding or whatever. :-p Nemo 07:05, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

I made AnankeBot an adminbot and I made you an admin and bureaucrat.

Just the MediaWiki namespace should be fine. I'm just trying to get the insecure (mixed) content warnings to go away. They all seem to be CentralNotice-related. The same simple replacements you did here on Meta-Wiki should be fine there.

Thanks! --MZMcBride 21:16, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

OMG, I didn't see this before; and I even checked the talk. :-/ I'm doing it now. Nemo 08:36, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Should be done, remove the bits if you want. Nemo 09:17, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Whee, thanks! --MZMcBride 13:11, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Bug 32138

Hello MZMcBride, this must have been the single most constructive contribution to the image filter debate that I've seen in a long while. And the most constructive thing before was pulling the debate on meta (from foundation-l). Thank you so much!

Regarding Bug 32138 (no images (in the content area) are loaded when the rest of the page loads and are instead replaced with placeholder images) I want to ask you about filing the same bug for the mobile frontend too. This would unify the user experience and might have its advantages for development too. See also Bug 32001 - Wikipedia Zero heading banner and Bug 32002 - Add a data access charge warning for Wikipedia Zero within Mobile Frontend. The current frontend version since Bug 29520 - Ability to turn off images on mobile and wap-mobile page views and mediawiki fix for Bug 29520 does not show that it does not show the image. No captions, no placeholder images or text, nothing. This is bad with formulas in the text [2], chess graphics [3] and many other things.

Besides, I proposed on de.wiki a possible solution to this whole image filter conundrum (de:Wikipedia_Diskussion:Kurier#Ein Lösungsvorschlag für das Bildfilter-Problem, german). Basically: Let's test an "all images on-off-function with clickable placeholders" on the new mobile frontend, collect and publish data on that (3 months?), work out a referendum (on meta, in collaboration) and then vote on implementing this on normal Wikipedia. Response was not very negative, nor very positive. I hesitate to put it on the meta-Brainstorming, because I'm afraid the vote/referendum thing might escalate things further. One interesting comment was a slippery slope argument: on-off-image-function -> session cookies -> demand for personal image selection list memory for logged user -> demand for the same for IP user -> infrastructure enabling censorship. Doesn't sound very slippery to me, but I'm not an expert on the tech side. Any thoughts on that? --Atlasowa 11:20, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Bug 32138 is uncontroversial, according to former statements by:

Sue Gardner: "Some ideas, such as a general images on/off switch, seem to have broad general support."

Erik Möller / Eloquence "es handelt sich dabei ganz klar um den "kleinsten gemeinsamen Nenner" in der bisherigen Diskussion auch ueber die deutschsprachige Wikipedia hinaus." (~ this clearly is the minimum consensus of the discussion so far, in the wider community) --Atlasowa 13:17, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Neitram partially translated the proposal into english on de:Benutzer_Diskussion:Atlasowa#Übersetzungsvorschlag. --Atlasowa 13:29, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words. :-)

Nearly every feature added to MediaWiki has been re-used, misused, and/or abused in one way or another. In particular, if this feature were implemented, you could easily begin to track statistics on which images were clicked-to-show and then make decisions based on that. For example, if 99% of users don't click to see Goatse.jpg, a wiki could decide that Goatse.jpg should be hidden by default for all users. The user preference or toggle option could be attached to particular users, but I doubt it would ever be attached to IP addresses, at least not voluntarily. I'm not sure if there is a slippery slope here, but it's nearly guaranteed that this feature, if implemented, will be used in unexpected ways that may upset some people.

I agree with Sue and Erik that this seems fairly uncontroversial. It also fits in with the "Wikipedia Zero" initiative, which I didn't know about until you mentioned it here. "Wikipedia Zero" is slightly tangential, as it's (apparently) focused on business partnerships, but it's certainly related.

I agree that mobile might be a good platform to do some testing, but I don't see any reason to restrict testing to mobile. This could be opt-in as soon as it's written (as a beta feature) and power-users could start to play with it. There are a lot of edge cases (math formulas, hieroglyphics, etc.) and quite a few technical obstacles to overcome, but I think it's worth the effort. --MZMcBride 21:23, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Re: Special:AbuseFilter/42

Well done, thank you for taking care of this. I tried, but I'm not able to understand messages like this (perhaps it's my English). However, I'm sure that I'm seeing mixed-content warnings... Nemo 08:36, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

It's not your English. Joseph isn't making a bit of sense of there. The content of his message is a direct argument for using protocol-relative URLs, but he made the comment after doing a bunch of reversions. I think he's rather confused. (Hardly the first fundraising person to not really understand the underlying technologies.)

There may be load issues, but I'd like to see someone from ops say so (Roan, Mark, Ryan, et al.). Quite a few people spent quite a bit of time getting the secure site (and related URLs) to function properly, so I'm very skeptical of implicit or explicit support of deliberately causing mixed content warnings. If there are actual load issues, someone should be able to say so definitively (in clear English). --MZMcBride 13:18, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

The abuse filter doesn't seem to work, see [4]. I'll try to add the src. Nemo 23:29, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi

Hi. I think it might be helpful to word wmf:Special:DisabledNotice (redirect from the Fundraising Statistics) to show that high volume caused delays. I thought perhaps you'd know how to do this. Cheers! 76.14.142.96 23:45, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Sure, done. --MZMcBride 01:43, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Miracle worker. 76.14.177.248 08:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

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Hi. :) I've put the notice back at the top of the page and would prefer that we talk to Geoff about it first. The page actually isn't protected right now. Protection expired, and I'm happy that it's been stable. The edits people have done (besides staff and the translation team) have been formatting, and they've been helpful. If people start substantially editing it, it will probably be fully protected again. While it's being hosted on Meta, it's here to facilitate discussion. It isn't actually a "wiki" document in the ordinary sense as it does actually have an "owner". :) (It's a bit more like w:Wikipedia:CCBYSA, a local copy for convenience). Geoff has been marvelously responsive to comments on the talk page. He's put a ton of time and energy into discussing people's ideas and concerns and has made many changes, but he only makes the changes that he agrees to. He is going to present this document to the Board of Trustees at the end of the month for their approval, and he wants to make sure that the community has as much opportunity as possible to weigh in first. If somebody coming to view the document (word is being spread to various communities that the commentary period is closed) sees it as modified by somebody else and thinks they are viewing an official version, they may be misled and we might miss their input on the official document. --Mdennis (WMF) 11:57, 10 December 2011 (UTC)