Serious Sam: The Sequel (Public Beta)

For the map graphic, I saw this artist called ImmortalTartal in DeviantArt (https://www.deviantart.com/immortaltartal/art/Serious-Sam-4-Adventure-Map-866373...) who has done some really cool custom map graphics for SS4 and SS3. You could maybe ask him if he can make one for The Sequel?

I got an error loading a new level. 

Class 'CGhoul' not found in entity class package file 'Bin/EntitiesMP.dll'.

I downloaded the new version and dropped it into the mods folder with the files replaced.

But as I see, other people have the level loaded. Apparently I don't know how to update correctly.

Update 22 lacks new particle functions for the Beam entity and a ModelsF/Enemies/Mental/Mental.h file for the Mental entity.

I appreciate the separation of files. I hope whenever there’s a new update, it lists which files specifically have been updated. Or even better - append an update version to each file link like “(Update 22)” to know exactly when the last change happened.

Also, coop players spawn inside walls in The Final Encounter level.

I tried to start the Angkor chapter, but I keep getting this error.

Cannot preload TexturesF\AI\Misc\Obsidian1.tex: Cannot open file `C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Serious Sam Classic The Second Encounter\TexturesF\AI\Misc\Obsidian1.tex' (No such file or directory) ()

Cannot start game:

Cannot find substitution for "TexturesF\AI\Misc\Obsidian1.tex"

ParametricParticles

I found a problem that if you pack the map not in the source folder, then autogro will not pack the map. I tried to pack the level which is located in: Serious Sam TSE/Mods/TheSequel/Levels. And also textures and other things that are located in the folder with the mod. Autogro can pack what is located in the game folder, not in the mod folder.  I haven't updated the large source folder for a long time and I don't know how to do it correctly now, but only with this folder I could successfully pack the level. Any tips on how to properly pack levels for a mod?

Hey, if you want some help with packing mod files to reduce the unpacked size and to get rid of unnecessary files, you can use my Dreamy GRO application. I just released an update for it that supports mods and all kinds of files (even DLL). I have a short wiki page for it as well, if you have questions about it, or you can just ask me.

But I must warn you that it’s not perfect and might miss some files in specific circumstances, so I recommend testing new updates on clean game installations before releasing them.

Sad to report that Cerberus and PlayerWeapons still have conflicts with property and component IDs. Only Mamut has been fixed.

Where could I submit potential fixes to the code if I happen to find bugs?

Meanwhile, I found a few duplicate IDs in classes that I recommend to renumber:

• m_fSize or m_penFireFX property in Mamut.es (change ID of one of them from 3 to 1)
• m_penGhostBusterRay or m_iHydroBarrel property in PlayerWeapons.es (change ID of the first one from 310 to 246 or the second one from 310 to 311)
• SOUND_DEATH_RUN component in Cerberus.es (change ID from 55 to 57)

Hello, I like what you’re doing here, just awesome. However, I have a major problem with the way it’s packaged, more specifically the source files.

What is the point of packing the entire development folder with literally thousands of Alpha, TFE and TSE resources? I have tried building the mod myself and all I needed is to copy EntitiesMP and GameMP folders on top of the clean SDK (and some folders with model headers).

If you can, please start packing the source code very minimally.

(1) Firstly, please remove everything other than .h files from AREP, Models, ModelsF and ModelsMP under Sources. It can be done manually by searching under each folder in explorer using “NOT type:h NOT kind:=folder” query (no quotes) and then pressing Ctrl+A to select all files and deleting them.

(2) Secondly, you may also want to delete Debug and Release build folders from EntitiesMP and GameMP because the files in there are generated each time you build the source code anyway.

(3) Thirdly, you probably only want to pack EntitiesMP, GameGUIMP, GameMP, AREP, Models, ModelsF and ModelsMP folders from Sources. But, if you’re really worried about forgetting something or just too lazy to do it, just pack the Sources folder alone.

From my testing, you can simply place the release files on top of the sources and the mod that you build yourself works as intended.

And finally, if you still wish to share all the development resources for some reason, just pack them separately and please get rid of the vanilla assets that are already in SE1_00.gro.

P.S. The current source files lack the HiveBrain entity. In fact, there are absolutely no changes to the code since Update 16 from what I can see.

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I wanted to offer a new entity option - WatchPlayers.  There is a problem that this entity always sees 360 degrees. Because of this, I can't properly create a shooting statue/turret. I propose to make a visibility angle indicator from 0 to 360 degrees for different situations. Well, or another similar entity.

I can test some stuff, particularly continued compatibility with the game running through the Proton tool for Linux.

So, I tried creating a simple room in the editor with a few enemies and saving it. And it worked for me.

As for the controls, I changed one button. Y - Netricsa. And this also works and is saved when the mod is restarted.

I don't know if one problem was mentioned. If you click on the alternate fire, but then quickly click on the main fire, the weapon will still fire the alternate fire.

By the way, I lost the ability to use “Custom enemy collision” entity for statues. Previously I could use this collision for stationary models. Now, when you try to put this entity in the same place where the statue is, this entity begins to move somewhere to the side. To make it clearer, I was trying to make a static enemy statue that would fire projectiles. But at the moment I have no idea how I can implement this. Perhaps you have some ideas on how best to use this entity in this situation?

I noticed that the "enemy launcher" entity does not increase the counter in the level statistics. As I noted earlier, at the levels of the mod there was such a situation that at the end of the level there were more killed enemies than indicated in the statistics.

It is possible that there are other reasons for a broken counter, but I definitely found one of them.

1) If I understand correctly, are there plans to introduce new types of ammunition for alternative fire? That is, for example, for a rocket launcher there will be not only standard rockets, but also rockets for alternative fire? And the same for other weapons. Am I right?

2) Should we expect full compatibility with Cecil's Classic Patch? We are talking about a problem with the rate of fire of weapons caused by the fix for this rate of fire from the mod and from the patch. The Classic Patch continues to be updated and very interesting new features appear. If a patch is released for the modification that will fix this problem, then this will be one of the best news.

3) On the maps I design, I use statues made from enemy models. At the moment, it's only Catman. Should we expect new models for any other enemies? The reason I ask is so that I don’t have to redo any of my ideas later.

The update has given me some thoughts and questions.

1) Now we have a sledgehammer. As I understand it, this is to make the player stronger at the beginning of the game. This makes Kleers less dangerous.

2) The new enemy models are very beautiful. But now, it seems to me, you shouldn’t spawn too many of them. How much will new quality models affect performance?

3) Huanman's attack seemed strange. Apparently it is used more for open spaces. In any case, the attack does not look dangerous. It is difficult for these projectiles to hit the player.

4) It's great that items have a size setting option. You can conveniently adjust the item if the size does not match the intended size.

5) With this update, Albino become weaker than Reptiloids (or at least equally dangerous). The reason is that reptilians have smaller and faster projectiles. For a reptilloid they give 5000 points, and for an albino - 7500. Will the reward change or remain the same?

6) One of the enemies from update 11 does not look dangerous. The Lazobar fires its projectiles towards the player, but if the player is constantly moving they never reach the player. Even head lasers are easy to dodge. You just need to go left or right. Additionally, the head explosion never reaches the player if they are moving. Perhaps I tested the enemy incorrectly somehow. Or is that how it was intended?

Edit: By the way, gnaars are very well balanced in this mod. But I remembered one classic enemy that lacks danger. Beheaded Firecracker. Even Rocketman feels stronger than a firecracker. I always felt like the developers should have made him a stronger enemy. What do you think about this?

Edit2: Noticed a problem on the "Serious" difficulty. Some enemies attack so often that they stop approaching the player. For example, red biomechanoid. This makes these opponents much less dangerous than on Hard difficulty.

1) Is it possible to create an item with a custom model? We are talking about such items as ankhs or jaguars and so on. I have another model that I want to see as an item, but I can only choose from the existing ones in the list. Of course, there is a mod that has this feature - Advanced Monster Item Classes. But I'm not sure if it will work correctly in your mod.

2) Will there be any friendly characters in the future? Which could become part of the level's plot with some dialogue. Also, it would be a good idea to create allies to help in the fight against enemies. And also neutral creatures for the environment.

3) Some games/modifications allow you to select skins/models for weapons. Your mod uses new models for weapons. Will it be possible to switch from new models to standard ones and back?

4) What will the remaining 2 chapters be about that we don't know about yet? In addition to the planet Atlantis and Angkor.

5) Will there be new game modes in the modification? Survival, etc...

how can i make a mountains ? Professionally ?

I have a questions. 

1) If I'm still on update 10, is it enough to drop the new files into the folder? It's just that there are already quite a lot of files in the existing folder that I created. This is a folder with source files.

2) An enemy such as a cyborg can be given a different color of projectiles, different from those of a biomechanoid. This is a small thing, but it will give the player more understanding of who is attacking him, as well as a nice variety.

3) Is it possible to create a spawner that creates enemies depending on the player's position? This would help in situations where there is a group of enemies, but they shouldn't spawn right in front of the player. I showed this in the picture where the spawners are marked in green (Spawns 2 enemies, not 4 enemies as it might seem). This idea came to me from another game - Will Rock. There is such a spawn system. I wanted to offer it because I’m porting maps from this game. Maybe you will be interested in this idea.

4) Will there be bonuses for the player that will be activated not by selection, but by pressing a hotkey? That is, bonuses that can be used at any time, like ammunition.

5) Is it possible to create a full-fledged boss using the essence - CEC (Custom Enemy Collision).  Does it work better against static enemies? Or is it also suitable for moving enemies? How limited in capabilities will such opponents be compared to standard ones that do not belong to this entity?

6) Will there be only one model for the Entity Enemy Projectile? That is, the projectile of Mordechai the Summoner. Or perhaps there will be more?

7) Is it possible to customize fall damage? If not, will there be such a setting when creating a level? It seems to me that the fall damage is quite low. And at a certain height it does not increase.

8) Is it possible to customize damage for sector content? Let's say I want to have 100 damage per second or 10 damage per 0.1 second. At the moment there is no detailed way to configure this.

Is there support for online play the same as in the original game?

Is it possible to transfer a map made in the original editor to a modified editor? I ask this because the new editor is not working correctly yet. That is, I was going to work on the geometry of new levels for now and transfer them in the future.

I always had 2 questions about the balance in the original game and the mod too.

1) Difficulty "Hard" - the player has a standard amount of ammunition. Difficulty "Serious" - double ammo. Many players, including myself in some places, believe that this makes Hard difficulty more difficult. There is a proposal to make the amount of ammunition standard on all difficulties. But the maximum amount of ammunition for weapons is doubled as on maximum difficulty. That is, the ammunition for the tommigun will give 50, and the maximum ammunition will be 1000.

2) In the later game, the minigun makes the tommigun little or even unusable. I have an idea to fix this by using different ammo for the 2 weapons. That is, two types of ammunition - 2 weapons. This is the ammunition system in Serious Sam 4.

So, I was able to find out the reason for the bug with the increase in the rate of fire of the weapon.

To do this, I compared 2 versions of the game. Standard and with patch (Serious Sam Classics Patch, Patch Creator - Dreamy Cecil) In the version with the patch, the rate of fire becomes increased.

Also a quick note. In the video, the bomberman cannot hit the player, and the projectile flies into the ceiling, which looks quite funny and ridiculous.

There are some enemies that are pushed back when hit by projectiles. Because of this, situations may arise that these opponents may fall somewhere where it will be difficult to reach them. What about the idea of setting a mass of enemies in the editor or pinning them in place? This idea is more for custom new maps than the ones available now.

During the passage of level 1, something happened to the assault rifle (Tommigun).  He fired 654 bullets in 32.78 seconds - 20 bullets/sec. This was noticed due to the fact that the arachnoid was killed quite quickly. The description in the manual stated:

"Functionally identical to the Tommygun"

But the assault rifle became like a minigun

I would also like to know when, give or take, new levels will be released?

The latest update stated that the save error was not fixed. But personally, the error disappeared for me. I can't say what this might be connected with. I only replaced the folders and files specified in the last post.

Is it possible to create an infinite spawner that is disabled by a trigger? This idea would be quite interesting for some levels. At the moment, all spawners count enemies and are limited.

Error appears in editor and in the game.

How was you managed to export animations from next encounter? Is there any special tool for this?

What new features will come later? Will there be, for example, something like gadgets from Serious Sam 4? Buying something for coins, new modes, character abilities, etc. Or are future features limited to new entities, enemies, weapons?

As a developer of maps and small mods, I would like to see the ability to edit the parameters of something. As in the editors SED 2.0 or SED 3.0+. Do the sources allow this? If so, will they be updated?

@JesterOfDestiny

Cross platform version (1.10): SE1-TSE-Sequel

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