Wikipedia:Warung Kopi (Usulan)/Arsip/Oktober 2009

Halaman arsip Warung Kopi Jangan menyunting atau memberikan tambahan kepada halaman ini selain untuk tujuan pengarsipan. Diskusi yang dilihat tidak mendapat komentar baru selama satu bulan akan dipindahkan ke halaman arsip ini.
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The LocalisationUpdate extension has gone live

The LocalisationUpdate extension is now enabled for all Wikimedia projects. From now on new localisations that become available in SVN will become available to your project within 24 hours. Your localisations get into SVN from translatewiki.net typically within a day and at worst in two days. This is a huge improvement from the old practice where the localisations became available with new software. This could take weeks, even months.

The localisations done by our community at translatewiki.net are committed to SVN typically every day. When the system messages in English are the same as the local messages, they will now be inserted in a file and are available for use in all our projects in a timely manner

What this means for you

Local messages have an impact on the performance of our system. It is best when messages are as much as possible part of the system messages. In order to remove unnecessary duplication, all the messages that have a local localisation and are exactly the same as the system message will be removed. What we ask you to do is to compare and proof read the messages in translatewiki.net and the local messages. You can then either remove local messages when the translatewiki.net message is to be preferred or, you can update the message at translatewiki.net.

Messages that are specific to your project will have to stay as they are. You do want to check if the format and the variables of the message are still the same.

Why localise at translatewiki.net

When you localise at translatewiki.net, your messages will be used in all Wikimedia projects and eventually in all MediaWiki based projects. This is how we provide the standard support for your language. When messages change, at translatewiki.net you will be prompted to revisit your translations. Localising is more efficient because we have innovated the process to make you more efficient; there is text explaining about messages and we have applied AJAX technology to reduce the number of clicks you have to make.

Translatewiki.net update

• Currently 100.00% of the MediaWiki messages and 89.63% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at translatewiki.net. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM (bicara) 10:00, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
• Currently 99.75% of the MediaWiki messages and 89.86% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at translatewiki.net. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM (bicara) 11:51, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

How can we improve the usability for your language

We expect that with the implementation of LocalisationUpdate the usability of MediaWiki for your language will improve. We are now ready to look at other aspects of usability for your language as well. There are two questions we would like you to answer: Are there issues with the new functionality of the Usability Initiative Does MediaWiki support your language properly

The best way to answer the first question is to visit the translatewiki.net. Change the language to your language, select the “vector” skin and add the advanced tool bar in in the preferences and check out the new functionality. And make some changes in your user page. When there is a need to improve on the localisation, please make the necessary changess . It should update your localisation straight away. We would like you to report each issue individually at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Usability_issues.

When there are problems with the support of MediaWiki for your language, we really want to know about this. It is best to report each issue separately. In this way there will be no large mass of issues to resolve but we can address each issue on its own. Consider issues with the display of characters, the presentation of your script, the position of the side bar, the combination of text with other languages, scripts. It is best to try this in an environment like the prototype wiki as it provides you with a clean, basic and up to date environment. The prototype wiki is available for five languages but you can select any of them, change the preferences to your language and test out MediaWiki for your language.

We would like you to report each issue individually at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language issues. The issues you raise will all be assessed. It is important to keep each issue separate, because this will make it easier to understand the issues and find solutions.

PS This text has been approved by Naoko, Brion and Siebrand. Thanks, GerardM (bicara) 10:00, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks GerardM. We've been using transwiki and will continue using it to make sure all other Indonesian language project use the same set of messages. •• ivanlanin ♫ 15:32, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Demografi vs kependudukan

Usul untuk mengubah judul utama artikel kependudukan menjadi demografi dan menggabungkan kategori:kependudukan ke kategori:demografi. Alasannya adalah kedua kata ada di KBBI dan merujuk makna yang sama. Kata demografi dipilih sebagai lema utama karena lebih mendekati lema asli (demography) sehingga memudahkan orang untuk memahaminya. •• ivanlanin ♫ 07:44, 19 Oktober 2009 (UTC)

Setuju 08:55, 19 Oktober 2009 (UTC) ✒ Bennylin

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Sudah saya ganti ke demografi. borgx^{(kirim pesan)} 01:07, 21 Oktober 2009 (UTC)

Panggilan untuk berpartisipasi

Wikipediawan sekalian diundang untuk mengikuti berbagai usulan isi pilihan yang sedang berlangsung di Wikipedia: Artikel pilihan: Wikipedia:Artikel pilihan/Usulan - usulan AP Wikipedia:Artikel pilihan/Jadwal/Usulan - usulan penjadwalan AP Gambar pilihan: Wikipedia:Gambar pilihan/Usulan - usulan GP Partisipasi Anda sekalian sangat ditunggu karena isi-isi pilihan ini akan ditampilkan di Halaman Utama dan dilihat oleh ratusan hingga ribuan orang setiap harinya. Oleh karena itu bantulah Wikipedia untuk menampilkan isi terbaiknya. Jangan sampai isi yang tidak merepresentasikan kualitas Wikipedia tertampilkan di Halaman Utama. 06:32, 20 Oktober 2009 (UTC) ✒ Bennylin

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Reset bak pasir

Untuk membuat nyaman pengguna baru, bagaimana kalau waktu reset bak pasir diperpanjang? Gw kasian yang coba-coba nyunting bak pasir ga sampai dua menit langsung dikosongkan lagi. Yang menyunting di situ kan ingin mencoba-coba berbagai formatting wiki dan melihat hasilnya. Hariadhi - ^Ngobrol 01:32, 29 Oktober 2009 (UTC)

Idealnya setiap jam tertentu direset (bot?), tapi susahnya ya itu klo uji cobanya pas beberapa menit sebelumm direset ya otomatis akan ke-reset. Tidak bisa diatur untuk x menit setelah suntingan terakhir, karena ujicoba adalah setiap waktu.
✒ Bennylin 01:49, 29 Oktober 2009 (UTC)

Hmm.. pengalaman gw sih pertama adaptasi dengan sistem wiki butuh waktu berjam-jam. Sementara yang mencoba bak pasir ga banyak, belum tentu juga satu hari ada sepuluh yang nyoba. Gimana kalau setelan botnya ditambahin, sekitar 4-6 jam? terus di bagian awal bak pasir dikasih tau tiap jam berapa aja bak pasir direset. Usul ini supaya wikipedia makin bersahabat sama pengguna baru lho ya :) 114.59.31.136 04:53, 29 Oktober 2009 (UTC)

Setuju. Usulan menambahkan keterangan di bagian awal bak pasir tentang waktu-waktu di-reset menurut saya ide yang bagus! Naval Scene (bicara) 05:17, 29 Oktober 2009 (UTC)