Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Don Luca Brazzi
request links: main • edit • links • history • watch Filed: 19:52, 6 November 2008 (UTC) |
- Don Luca Brazzi (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Brzica milos etc (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- J. A. Comment (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Velebit (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- I am Mario (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Code letter: F
- Supporting evidence: Users Don Luca Brazzi and J. A. Comment are banned on 5 November 2008 in 08:39 [1] during discussion about article Magnum Crimen [2]. Around 11 hours latter user Brzica milos etc is entering discussion about Magnum Crimen to protest banning of this users and to make changes in article [3]. Problem with his action is that he has never earlier edited this article [4] and he has not recieved any information invitation to enter this discussion (user talk page).
- Only possible connection between Brzica milos etc [5] and other users is that he is from Washington D.C. area like J. A. Comment [6], Don Luca Brazzi [7] and banned user Velebit.
- Banned user Velebit is old stale account from Washington area which has used Verizon proxy (example: 71.252.83.230 )for his edits on wikipedia. He is on this list because Don Luca Brazzi is from that area and has used Verizon proxy (71.252.106.166) for his edits. Data about Velebit account is in hands of checkusers Thatcher and Lar.
- User I am Mario has been blocked for 48 hours on 14 November [8], but on 15 November IP has continued discussion between myself and user I am Mario about Einstein [9]. It is interesting that we are having old expired IP ban for that IP address [10]. I can show that editorial style of this user is very similar to banned user Velebit, but more that enough will be my 2007 discussion about Einstein with ban evading sock of user Velebit [11]
- In my thinking evidence is stroung enough for banning without check but....
Maybe I am making mistake but all earlier checks which I have added like evidence are made by checkuser Thatcher and maybe because of old data he is best for this check ?--Rjecina (talk) 19:52, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Don Luca and J.A. were blocked indefinitely, not banned. They are free to return if they wish to follow policy. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:33, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Stale - Velebit (talk · contribs)
- Inconclusive - Don Luca Brazzi (talk · contribs), Brzica milos etc (talk · contribs), & J. A. Comment (talk · contribs)
-- Avi (talk) 00:35, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Note: Please do not archive until Thatcher or Lar comment. -- Avi (talk) 00:47, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Note:May I ask is it possible to stop these endless accusations of others, name-calling, false evidence submitting - made by the same Rjecina for over last half a year??? I am not a Verizon customer, I did try to edit Magnum Crimen, I did not protest blocking other users 11 hours latter (it was 29 hours latter), my ISP headquarters are in the Washington D.C. area but I am from Colorado Springs, CO. --Brzica milos etc (talk) 19:03, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Note:"user Brzica milos etc is located in the same large metropolitan area as 71.252.106.166, which is also where Velebit edited from, and they are both at least likely based on behavior to be Velebit". This is from check which is declared failed because of my "fishing expedition" --Rjecina (talk) 17:58, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
- The prior checkuser is at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Brzica milos etc and I feel that only User:Thatcher has the right to describe the likelihood of the similarity. In fact, Rjecina has been blocked once before aggressive sockpuppetry allegations and I am considering another block. The canvassing to Abraham and Thatcher are starting to be a bit much. The fishing expeditions have to stop. It is impossible to work with someone who accuses everyone else of being a sock of a banned user who's comments should be completely ignored. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 01:52, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- We are waiting Thatcher. Ricky you have missed Avraham demand to me about note for Thatcher. Your warning is added near Avraham demand [12] !? Another good faith mistake....--Rjecina (talk) 02:47, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- We should try to cut down the number of accusations being hurled here, if possible. I got pinged, I'll try to take a look but don't hold the case open or closed on my account. I'd suggest evaluating comments on merits instead of assuming bad faith as the first choice. ++Lar: t/c 14:02, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
- We are waiting Thatcher. Ricky you have missed Avraham demand to me about note for Thatcher. Your warning is added near Avraham demand [12] !? Another good faith mistake....--Rjecina (talk) 02:47, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- I concur with Avi's finding of Inconclusive for - Don Luca Brazzi (talk · contribs), Brzica milos etc (talk · contribs), and J. A. Comment (talk · contribs). I add to it that I am Mario (talk · contribs) is also unlikely or inconclusive. Further I don't see any correlation to Velebit but my data is old. Avi, if you want a copy for reference, ping me, but it's too old to be much good any more. A general comment to Rjecina: You need to find other ways to occupy your time than making a lot of these sorts of requests. And you could stand to work on your general approach to editing and interacting as well... it's not as collegial as it could be. I think Ricky spoke rather harshly to you on your talk page, but I find myself in general agreement thematically. Too much of this is not productive, and is wasting the time of others. Please consider different approaches. ++Lar: t/c 14:24, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Clerk assistance requested: Thank you, Lar. This may now be archived. -- Avi (talk) 23:30, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Subsequent requests related to this user should be made above, in a new section.