Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Post Haste: The Letter Carrier Game

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 21:50, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Post Haste: The Letter Carrier Game

Discussion to run until at least 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Non-notable, "union-printed" (whatever that means!) board game. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 20:32, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for editing help. Removed "union-printed" - Nowadays, it is a rare thing to see a game printed by a union print shop in the U.S.Mkwiki368 (talk) 21:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or speedy delete. No assertion of notability. Devised sometime last year; hopeless attempt to use wikipedia for a bit of free publicity. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:14, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The board game is notable because of highly-configurable initial board setup, greater than 8¹⁶ combinations. This is more than Settlers of Catan, and differ from Ravensburger's Labyrith and Carcassonne because, in those games, it is part of the ongoing game play to lay tiles, the tiles in those games are one-sided, and by rule, not all tiles may be placed next to others. The initial setup of Post Haste is what sets it apart from other board games. The variability in game play in comparable to other games in which chance and decisions affect game play. Mkwiki368 (talk) 22:17, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are missing the point by a long margin. Read WP:N and associated pages for a clue. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Notable. Objectively assessed. Combinatorics of initial board set up greater than other board games used today. Legitmate as tallest buildings per state, longest word in English, etc. Board game with highest variability in initial setup. Notable WP:N.Mkwiki368 (talk) 22:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, no. To prove notability, you need to provide us with reliable sources - multiple, non-trivial references that are specifically about the subject. While I see you have a couple of mentions in the article, one is an incidental. The game's creator is Matt Kaminski; the creator's username of Mkwiki368 would perhaps suggest there's also a conflict of interest here. Delete unless better sources are presented indicating notability can be established. Tony Fox (arf!) 22:41, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

{EC} :When you can find a citation to that effect per WP:V we might be in a position to do business. Until then this spam will be deleted. Finally, try WP:COI and let us know if you have any. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - If a reliable source can be found to verify the "more possibilities than any other game in use" claim then it would be notable. The single non-trivial reference isn't enough by itself to establish notability. --Megaboz (talk) 01:26, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.