Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jain irrigation

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Nishkid 64 14:14, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jain irrigation[edit]

Already deleted twice as spam/advertising for a non-notable company. I was tempted to follow suit, but it seems to be a fairly large corporation — I was hoping that editors who are familiar with Indian culture could help out here. In any case, an AfD would settle the matter and open to door to protect the article in the future if necessary, since the creator seems determined to keep posting it up. Tijuana Brass 09:56, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this organization is big multinational. Operating in more than 100 countries, they have open to all large 500 Acres Research and demonstration center, training institutes for farmers, government officials. First time in India who brought drip irrigation and currently on top with 60% market share. Struggling to give farmers a status and drip irrigation as infrastructure industry within India. I like there mission of Organization 'Leave this world better than you found it'. Chairman respected Bhavarlal Jain bestowed with 'Significant Contribution to the Irrigation Industry outside the United States.' instituted by Irrigation Association, U.S.A. I will like to add there page in biography. Lisasam 10:46, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

page for review, please see talk page of Jain Irrigation

Thanks Tijuana and Lisasam for your views,

In my views I am creating informative page, already page was under review by another administrator and need your attention to it's talk page. Request to review it with WP:CORP guidelines for the page, if you have any suggestions that are welcome. Deletion is a extreme step, and persons who have worked on it, they got there time & resources in vain need to consider it. Deepm 11:17, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is a leading hi-tech agriculture Company and more... Jain Irrigation is the only company in the world that produces complete Drip Irrigation Systems including PVC Pipes, PVC Fittings, poly tubing and fittings, emitters, filtration equipment, and fertigation equipment under one roof. Had lot of other product manufacturing, service and support divisions. Subsidiaries of Jain Irrigation are in the USA, Europe and Africa, In India it has more than 8 plants, 58 Offices, 23 depots and 1262 distributor's. Other than India approx 5 offices, 380 distributor's, 7 Agents. Manufacturing more than 1000 products. I think this is enough to add this organizations page in WIKIPEDIA. Jisl 14:22, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I spy a conflict of interest... Guy (Help!) 16:26, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep, sales of 150 Mio EUR is not small, but not gigantic either. Same for third largest dehydrated onion producer in the world. In any case, rewrite to make it less promotional and change the history, where the family history is included back to 1887 -- Chris 73 | Talk 23:08, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I believe this is a notable company. However jisl should not be editing it; I suggest jisl read and understand WP:COI. I've moved the page to give it an appropriate name and capitalization. Akihabara 00:15, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for that — I should have done so before creating the AfD. Tijuana Brass 02:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for that, Akihabara — As a newcomer I was unaware of the WP:COI, sorry for contributing this page, stopping to edit it any more. Jisl 05:58, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete if notability cannot be asserted using reliable sources (WP:RS) - at present I dont believe it meets the requirements of WP:CORP MidgleyDJ 03:25, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note It's in the BSE 500. While I'm cautious to claim being in an index as broad as 500 necessarily denotes notability, I think if you look at the link it would be in the top 200 by market capitalization. Akihabara 05:59, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

keepIf we delete this there are a few thousand other ones. Do I perceive a certain amount of skepticism about Indian organisations?DGG 04:24, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Ya, its a big and notable organization, I personally met founder chairman, a notable person and very impressed for his & his families devotion for farmers, society (They have founded Jain Charities for social responsibility and environmental concerns). See lot of remarks include Christopher Forbes, Vice Chairman, Forbes Magazine, Vice President, Chiquita Brands Inc., Processed Fruit Ingredients, U.S.A./Mexico etc. who visited the organization. Corrected 1887 reference hope it is up to the mark Aldenan 08:05, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I cleaned up the article a little today to try and give a better idea of what there is to look at. The history section is actually a copyvio of the Jain website and will need a big rewrite (if kept at all). I'm still holding off from offering any opinion about the notability of this company, but I wanted to let it have a fair shot of surviving this AfD. It can be tough to work in articles on subjects that are foreign to the mostly Western editors here (myself included, of course). While there are plenty of poor reasons offered above for keeping the article — the founder may be a nice guy, but that doesn't make him of encyclopedic importance — I wouldn't want to be too quick to delete this one. Tijuana Brass 10:15, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It's part of the BSE 500 stock market index, a direct qualifier under WP:CORP. The comments in the AfD suggests "Lets delete this article in order to save it". --Oakshade 04:42, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep Let it grow! not seems an advertisement, better than Microsoft and other WP:CORP pages. This is a big fast growing orgnisation from India refer List of conglomerates in Maharashtra and lot of news links, like [1] [2] [3]. You can visit there link or google if you don't know about it. We have to work (like Tijuana Brass) on pages similar to this to improve Wiki and not only argue. I agree with DGG if need to delete there are thousand, including said. Yogita t 12:23, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep but edit out POV comments like "they came to be recognized as a reputable, trustworthy and prestigious house", "high standards of performance", "strong sense of commitment" etc unless it can be sourced. Comments like that is the reason the original article (Jain irrigation, see log) was speedy deleted in the first place. - TexMurphy 15:22, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.