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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 18:59, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

J. C. France

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This might fail WP:NMOTORSPORT — Preceding unsigned comment added by MysticCipher87(alt-account) (talk • contribs) 19:44, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Am I reading it correctly that he only competed in one professional race? It appears he did not qualify (DNQ) and withdrew (WD) a few times, but I only see one actual race listed in all those tables. Being a member of the France family does not make him notable, so he needs to have made a name for himself in racing, and I don't see it. - Donald Albury 21:46, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thought I had found something here, but it just links to a bunch of news items, each of which just mentions J.C. as part of a driving team. I have found a number of pieces about his drunk-driving arrest, but that doesn't help. Also found a column he wrote himself about what he is doing now, and an interview which might be usable for details, but not for establishing notability. Donald Albury 22:11, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep France competed in multiple full seasons of professional Grand Am racing. I will make that clear in the article. -Drdisque (talk) 21:06, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ...but is there anything there to assert notability? The state of the article does not help. Often, I say rip it up and start afresh. SpacedFarmer (talk) 10:18, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, he unequivocally passes WP:NMOTORSPORT. -Drdisque (talk) 15:23, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Grand-Am Daytona Prototypes - coming from a rare fan of the class - would be, in my opinion, a "primarily-professional series of significant national importance", not of "international importance" like I think you're arguing. Subject doesn't appear to have won any DP races, which is what would get a driver who competed at a level no higher than DP (which frankly, was never that high) to pass NMOTORSPORT. But that doesn't mean we should go around finding every DP driver article and sending it to AfD, as NMOTORSPORT really only tells us whether or not someone is likely to pass WP:GNG or not. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  16:34, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - GNG is not met. Most of what I found on google about this subject is inadmissible per WP:BLPCRIME as subject was not found guilty of what the headlines accuse him of, and would fail WP:ROUTINE regardless. Most of what remains are the usual database sources such as racing-reference, DriverDB, etc. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  16:38, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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