User talk:Valentinian/Archive 5

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Archive 1

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Brahe

I found your information on Brahes very useful. Could you add the information on the history of the Brahe family to Brahe? Also, could you add references? All of that information would help clarify why all the Brahes should be listed and discussed together. Thank you, Dr. Submillimeter 15:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I'll try to, but it'll take a few days. I'm pretty busy IRL. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 20:14, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

When you do this, please use references other than the Swedish and Danish versions of Wikipedia. Thank you, Dr. Submillimeter 21:15, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

The references that you suggested using seem good. Thank you for expanding the article. Dr. Submillimeter 21:20, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I just remembered that the Great Danish Encyclopedia is not the first of its kind. Salmonsens Konversationsleksikon from 1915 is partly digitized (including B) so I could start with that. [1]. The Swedish Nordisk familjebok is the same [2] and [3] and they are considered PD by their respective Wikipedias. Even a direct translation will still take some time, though. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 21:29, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Note to myself: Two editors worked on volumes 22-26: Johs. Brøndum-Nielsen (1881-1977) and Palle Raunkjær (1886-1980). The editor of the first 21 volumes Christian Blangstrup lived (1857-1926). Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 23:42, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

reply

Thanx, signing actual articles was something I wasn't sure of and couldn't find through a quick look at the tutorial.

--Alexander den store 10:26, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Argentina-film-stub

Hi how long is the discussion going on for Category:Argentine film stubs? We now have almost 140 articles - I corrected many of the earlier tags and have been adding new stubs to write into full articles later. The guy who proposed it said 43 articles we now almost have 143!!! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:52, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 18:07, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes I think so. I have been taking on a mammoth task of filtering lists of feature films to add to wikipedia and expand later into full articles. Every page shows up like 15 missing actors, direcotrs, cinema characters!! -the notable ones of these will all be started. I have been compiling the List of Argentine films is going really well. Category:Argentine films only had about 6 articles 6 weeks ago!! And I have done 95% of existing Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased) material too!!! If I can get them off to a good start it sets a foundation then for proper expansion Ernst Stavro Blofeld 18:12, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

You see List of Argentine films and the rest of the country lists are intended to be part of the Cinema of pages and document the entire cinema of every country by decade and year. Eventually I will get around to filling in all the details, See the navigation box on the right hand side takes you through the decades. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 18:18, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes I wrote some of them myself and those that are very similar to the site I will have to change slightly but they are telling a story of facts and owning all of them myself if you blind folded me not to see that site and I wrote the articles they would look very similar. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 20:30, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll work on it. I have a welath of my own details to add anyway and I plan a box for the chracters and actors of eack episode. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 20:31, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes I have to sort out the final episodes and restructure 1-10 which I forgot to correct. Trust me on this one I am quite capable see the main Randall page I have developed it myself analysing the series overall. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 20:34, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I look forward to reading the finished result. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 20:37, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Landsting election of 1920

Hi Valentinian

I agree with your dates. In addition to the two dates: The Valgmandsvalg was 24 September, followed by the actual election (valg af valgmandsvalgte) on 1 October, and by a temporary clause in the constitution the 19th of the 19 Landstingsvalgte was elected by those of candidates elected on 1 October, who had residence in South Jutland. The Faroese candidate (the seventh constituency) was elected by the Løgting, and apparently on another day than the rest of the elections.

The article on the Landsting (Denmark) really needs an explanation of the election systems, though. I have added that to my todo-list. Hemmingsen 06:38, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 10:31, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I may have misunderstood you earlier. Were you referring to both Landsting elections or just the second? (By the way, five parliamentary elections in one year, in addition to the plebiscites and a referendum, how insane is that?)

If they should be moved, then they should be moved from August to either June or July and from October to September. But all my sources refer to the elections by the date of valg af valgmandsvalgte, using "the Landsting election of 1 October 1920" and "the Landsting election of 10 August 1920", so I adopted that convention, even though referring to them by the date people actually voted would make just as much sense to me. Hemmingsen 17:06, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I think, I just realised what you meant by your original question. Well, better late than never. You suspected that the election of 10 August should have been 10 September, right? This isn't the case, as the August Landsting election and the July Folketing election were a requirement to change the constitution by calling a referendum on 6 September. And as soon as the new constitution was finally approved, a new set of elections were called in order for it to take effect. The dates 10 September and 1 October belong to the same election – the October one. Hemmingsen 19:19, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Re:Cyprus-stub

It went as I feared. Oh, btw, both of us have now officially been labelled as pro-Turks [1]. Funny, I didn't know that myself.

Sigh. Pro-Turk, huh? Don't tell my mate Kyp - he wouldn't be impressed (erm, "Kyp" is short for Kypros Kypri, BTW - guess what he thinks of TRNC!) Grutness...wha? 05:30, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Dear Valentinian, I am very sorry if I gave you to understand that you are a pro-Turk. I have seen past editings and referings to other discussions and I am sure you are not. You helped me several times and I appreciate that. It was my mistake to talk for "pro-turks" rather than "pro-turk". However I disagree, whatever you will tell me about user:Grutness, which actually I was refering to him as pro-turk and I am insisting of that. If he is not, surely his is Anti-Cypriot. Many of his referings can be considered like that. I don't want to write why I believe that. It is my POV. But I am not at all considering you Pro-Turk rather than friend of Cyprus.

I understand the problem which is created with the people who support the pseudostate, however think also and the other side POV. It is a lot disturbing us the Cypriot to not have our own flag. I saw these days the stub of other countries with their own flag and our to be absent and was hurting a lot. Our problem is the disapperance of our flag, not what image there will be. Anyway I know we will not solve that problem by discussing the two of us rather than in Template talk:Cyprus-stub. By the way I want to be honest with you, I am the anonymous who had edit war with you one year ago about Cyprus stub image. I did have user name that time.

Saguamundi? He continues to behave like that. He also put Turkish Cypriots under category:Turkish X. Input of Cypriot politicians as Asian can not be because they are political articles and Cyprus politically belongs absolutelly in Europe. Regards KRBN 00:46, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I didn't say anything in Greek about you. Also every country has its own flag in this wikipedia. So as a Cypriot I am getting disturbed to see the flag of other countries and ours not. Since those templates are causing problems, they must not be included but it is general that every country uses its own flag. I think the flag must not be a reason to create such stubs. Also other countries with disputed territories use their flag. Even if TRNC-stub would have been acceptable, it has less than 60 stub to be accepted and also it was rejected. If Cyprus flag is going to be removed then Turkish flag must be the same because otherwise it would be unfair. KRBN 00:22, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Image:Flag_of_Lebanon_(bordered).svg

Hey ... that image is not currently being used right now. I have uploaded it to Commons. (Commons images are accessible by any Wikipedia project and it will be completely transparent - even once the image is removed from Wikipedia, the link above will remain blue and anyone will be able to use the image in articles.) In general, orphaned images are either deleted or moved to Commons. The only reason I nominated this one for deletion is that I didn't realize it was potentially useful. Since it is, I have moved it to Commons and withdrawn my nomination at IFD. Thanks for pointing it out to me. --BigDT 23:03, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 23:20, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

-lev

Since you seem to know Danish, what does "-lev" at the ends of Danish place name mean (e.g. Haderslev, Halslev, Harlev)? 81.159.157.247 Anthony Appleyard 17:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 17:52, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Some queries about year 1864 (Second War of Schleswig)

If it is possible to find this information, please:-

(1) In 1864, when did the spring thaw come?
(2) What railways existed in and around the area at the time?
- These would affect ability to transport bulky military items. For example, the pontoon bridge used to cross the Alssund: were its components brought from Germany (and how?), or was it made on site from whatever could be found?
(3) Is there any more information about the Prussian attack on Arnæs/Arnis? I cannot find any by a web search.
(4) Where was Mysunde? Were there more than one place called Mysunde?

Anthony Appleyard 23:11, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 20:07, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Iceland project

So noted. Tried copying from more than one source. Will work to standardize them now. Thanks for the information. I do screw up more often than I like to admit, and am grateful for the quick notice. Badbilltucker 23:25, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Go right ahead. I have a feeling I might be pushing myself a little too fast today. Sorry for the confusion and extra work. Badbilltucker 23:40, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 23:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Assume good faith

"Since it doesn't look like you coloured it yourself..." --You

Thank you. I'll take that as a compliment. --ZeframSpark 00:58, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I have no problem with AGF but I do have a problem with you supplying incorrect sources. I own a copy of that book, and it is a black-and-white work. That image never came from page 176 of that book, and I have seen the coloured version before. Well, I see that someone has deleted it already. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 08:21, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Tip

Thanks for the tip! I had been putting off looking into that solution, but it seems to be highly necesary. By the way, I think we might have seen the return of an old friend [4]. Inge 10:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I can warmly recommend AWB. Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 21:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Haven't said Hi in ages

Just saw this good move, looks like I slipped up. Have been careful to mostly keep them inside commnents. That's kind of a strange thing to twig onto... what got your attention? You multilingual as well as being handsome, smart, and talented? <G> Cheers! // FrankB 20:30, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

YMSTICPC :) Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 21:18, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

"Most of England"

Im puzzled by the explanation you provide for the statement that the Normans conquered "Most of England" rather than its entirity: "Wessex was never conquered by the Vikings." I dont see the relevance of that. The Normans conquered the Kingdom of England in its entirity, not partially, and the statement that they conquered only most of it is incorrect. siarach 22:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

My buff. Sorry. Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 22:57, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah fair enough - i did wonder if it was maybe something like that. siarach 00:04, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Thats typical for this user Valentinian. He edit pages without sources to his own POV. --194.255.124.250 08:08, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Commanche CPH, stop attacking other editors. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 08:18, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

The truth hurts. --194.255.124.250 08:35, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Commanche, I've already reported your personnal attacks to two admins. Knock it off. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 08:38, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Messages

About the messages you left on my talk page, as you noticed, I am deferring to Lar for resolution as I'm not familiar with that particular editor nor the topics that are being edited. Lar is aware of the past history and I'd be intervening without the full history. However, the recent comment left on the article talk page was out of line and any further comments like that and I would issue a block on my own. I hope you understand my reluctance at stepping in. -- Gogo Dodo 22:29, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 22:34, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Like I said, I have no problem issuing a block for trolling or user page vandalism if it happens again. It's the sockpuppet issue that I am deferring on. Hopefully, Lar will be able to look at it soon. The test4 is fine. -- Gogo Dodo 22:38, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Re:My talk page

Hi V - I'd actually deliberately left that message at the higher level header, and was going to keep it like that until my computer problems were fixed, but it's not a big deal one way or the other, so thanks anyway. Grutness...wha? 18:38, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah, ok. I thought your computer problems had been fixed. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 18:41, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Scanian

Sorry, it was included in one of the subcats of Finland when I ran PockBot, and I saw that the other language which came up, Swedish language, is mentioned as being spoken in Finland, so I came to an illogical conclusion. I have removed the banner. Sorry for the mistake. Badbilltucker 22:03, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Megali idea.jpg)

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It is not unlicensed bot. Somebody simply chose to remove it from the article. Valentinian ^{T / C} 18:20, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Edit conflict

I think that's the first time I've ever got an edit conflict while editing my user page! :) Grutness...wha? 23:25, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

That was a good one :) Ten points. Valentinian ^{T / C} 23:30, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Velkomst

Mange tak for din fine velkomst, men jeg har altså været her et stykke tid :-p
Jeg redigerede endda læææææænge før jeg fik en konto, jeg blev bare træt af dersens spam-captchas som kommer når man prøver at redigere en side uden at logge ind først... Og så er jeg herredårlig til at huske at signere mine ændringer. Empaler 15:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC)~

Fair nok. Jeg har svaret på din talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 22:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

SLT stubs

Hi V - I'd appreciate it if you would have a look at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Yugayuga, since you have seen the edits which are the cause of it all. Please comment, even if you agree with Yugayuga that my proposal for deletion of these stub types included bad comments about Sri lankan Tamils and showed by (quote) "ugly racist face". Grutness...wha? 06:33, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll take a look, but it will have to wait till tonight. My schedule is complete rubbish at the moment. Valentinian ^{T / C} 08:45, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

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Map-DB-PrussiaProvs-1818.svg - whoops...

Hi there,

Thanks for pointing out my mistake on Image:Map-DB-PrussiaProvs-1818.svg. The map is indeed based on pre-1839 borders - to be more specific, this map for 1820. No idea why I had Schleswig as a member of the German Confederation. The image has now been fixed. Thanks. - 52 Pickup 21:07, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I have a pretty good guess. :) Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 22:50, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

Hey, thanks! Appreciate it. Keep up the good work yourself! Antandrus (talk) 23:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. Valentinian ^{T / C} 23:17, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Location Maps

On the WikiProject Countries talk page, you had either explictly declared a general interest in the project, or had participated at a discussion that appears related to Location Maps for European countries.
New maps had been created by David Liuzzo, and are available for the countries of the European continent, and for countries of the European Union exist in two versions. From November 16, 2006 till January 31, 2007, a poll had tried to find a consensus for usage of 'old' or of which and where 'new' version maps. At its closing, 25 people had spoken in favor of either of the two presented usages of new versions but neither version had reached a consensus (12 and 13), and 18 had preferred old maps.
As this outcome cannot justify reverting of new maps that had become used for some countries, seconds before February 5, 2007 a survey started that will be closed at February 20, 2007 23:59:59. It should establish whether the new style maps may be applied as soon as some might become available for countries outside the European continent (or such to depend on future discussions), and also which new version should be applied for which countries.
Please note that since January 1, 2007 all new maps became updated by David Liuzzo (including a world locator, enlarged cut-out for small countries) and as of February 4, 2007 the restricted licence that had jeopardized their availability on Wikimedia Commons, became more free. The subsections on the talk page that had shown David Liuzzo's original maps, now show his most recent design.
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There mustnot be 'oppose' votes; if none of the options would be appreciated, you could vote for the option you might with some effort find least difficult to live with - rather like elections only allowing to vote for one of several candidates. Obviously, you are most welcome to leave a brief argumentation with your vote. Kind regards. — SomeHuman 7 Feb 2007 20:42 (UTC)

Please note that you were near the end of my alphabetical list of contributors to be shown that the above is an invitation (and not just a report of the former poll as the first sentences might seem to indicate) and meanwhile giving a direct link to the 'Final survey' that was otherwise difficult to find. Before your correct comment on my talk page, more than half of yesterday's destinees of the above, had received the link and bold-character modification. But thanks, you made a very correct remark. — SomeHuman 9 Feb 2007 00:58 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your support of the Belarusian people. Dr. Dan 18:47, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

They have many friends, I'm just one. :) Valentinian ^{T / C} 19:54, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Spain tag

Thanks for calling the over-inclusion to our attention. Please accept my apologies, and I understand that the issue has been addressed. Please let me know if any questions remain. EspanaViva 20:16, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 22:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your patient understanding - which is muchly appreciated! EspanaViva 01:15, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Søren Kam

Sure he was part of the SS, but when you read something about those volunteers you see, that they said they were fighting for Europe and not for Germany. Cf. Léon Degrelle. What about the Italian SS? What about RONA? They surely thought that they were fighting for their own countries. To say they fought for Europe would be a political statement, but to say they fought for the Axis Powers is more correct than to say they fought for Germany. 217.236.224.12 14:50, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 19:21, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

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Belarus talk archive

If there is any more topics that should be in the archive, just go ahead and put them in there. I thought the talk page got way too big. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 23:44, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Katherine of Aragon

Hello! I noticed you have contributed to the Catherine of Aragon page in the past. There is a debate at the moment on the discussion page regarding the spelling of her name, your input would be appreciated!Paul75 00:52, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I think I'll pass that offer. No time to dig into the details. Valentinian ^{T / C} 21:34, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Christian X of Denmark

I'm reverting your edit to the article on Christian X of Denmark. The book mentioned only contains a black-and-white version and we need a source for the coloured version. I've seen this version before ages ago, but it is not very common and I can't remember the exact book. The image looks very much like a contemporary colourization. Unless we have the name of the person who made the coloured version, we can't tell for sure if this person still has any rights to it, but such works normally have a copyright term of author's life + 70 years. Happy editing. Valentinian ^{T / C} 15:25, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I was the person who colorized the image. I released it to the public domain as per the license tag. I can prove that I colorized it by emailing you a larger version, if you would like, as well as the CorelDraw files that contain the color layers on top of the original black and white. All I ask in return is that, next time, you assume good faith when you have no reason to doubt. --Peter the Great 15:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Unless you have any more question or concerns, I think we should proceed to restore the superior picture. Would you like to be the one to undo your reversion, or would you like me to do it? --Peter the Great 17:28, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 19:12, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Howie Rich stub sorting

Hi, I noticed you placed Howie Rich in "New York Politicians." Howie Rich's politics are generally national in scope, and as far as I know he has no particular political ties to NY (though he lives there.) His political organizations are based in places like Illinois and Virginia. Is there perhaps a better stub? For comparison, I don't think it would be appropriate to call Alan Greenspan a "Washington, DC economist." He'd be an American economist. Make sense? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Peteforsyth (talk • contribs) 03:41, 21 February 2007 (UTC).

No problem. Updated accordingly. Valentinian ^{T / C} 11:45, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I haven't done any stub-sorting, so I thought it would be best to check. -Pete 11:56, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem. WP:WSS tries to sort articles into smaller, more specific categories when possible, but this doesn't seem to be appropriate here. If you wish to know more about stub sorting, you are most welcome to drop by at WP:WSS. Happy editing. Valentinian ^{T / C} 12:01, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Zephram/Peter

Thanks, looking into it. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 01:18, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I couldn't see the deleted image, but it's likely him for a number of reasons. I've blocked the account and invited him to discuss it with me by e-mail. Cheers, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 01:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Badge POW.gif

It's better to nominate unused, obsolete images for deletion or to tag them with {{subst:ncd}}. Otherwise they will not be deleted (see the disclaimer text at Template:Obsolete). --Iamunknown 20:29, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks for the tip. Valentinian ^{T / C} 23:10, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Also, I didn't realize it, but you may use {{db-redundantimage}} for redundant local images. I just found. --Iamunknown 22:02, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Great. I've been looking for something like this. Valentinian ^{T / C} 22:17, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Please update a protected template.

Done. Good catch. – Luna Santin (talk) 22:15, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Nordic countries

hello Århus municipality has 296 170 citizens try to go to århus kommune homepage, the 228 758 is just for the inner city whit out many suburbs in the municipality. and oslo municipality has 548 617 inhabihants, thats a fact

I'm tired of that stupid list. We still have nothing that resembles a commonly agreed upon standard used throughout the paragraph. The entire thing should be deleted or replaced by something from a traditional encyclopedia. Valentinian ^{T / C} 10:30, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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Re:Image:Maximus Confessor.jpg

In response to your request ... I wonder if you could give me a hand with this, I've not done much work on images and am not sure of exactly the right way to tag it, etc. I think I probably orginally found the image in this article here (and also in this article, same journal), but have also seen it on the cover of this book and another by the same author. What is the next thing I need to do?? Thanks in advance for your help. -- Pastordavid 23:27, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 00:25, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I see what you mean. I found this image on the italian wikipedia. I don't know italian, but it appears to say that the author has given express permission to wikipedia for its use. But, I admit my ignorance of copyright issues, and I'm not sure if that really actually covers use under wikipedia's GNU license. Do you know? -- Pastordavid 23:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Just found this statement: "All images appearing in these pages are understood to be copyright free and in the public domain." on the page of the journal with two copies of the image currently in use. I will update the image file accordingly. -- Pastordavid 23:56, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I've updated the image description page. Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 00:25, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar - because you deserve it

		The Barnstar of National Merit
		I, Poulsen hereby award you this barnstar for your knowledgeable edits about Denmark and the history of Denmark, as well as your attention to the Portal:Denmark. Poulsen 23:07, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
		_{this WikiAward was given to {{subst:PAGENAME}} by ~~~ on ~~~~~}

I hereby partly forward a barnstar given to me by Angelbo on behalf of the Andelsbevægelsen article, and partly just give you one for being such a great contributor and editor on all things Denmark and Scandinavia. Poulsen 23:07, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I really appreciate it. And my thanks to you for creating the actual article. I'd completely forgot about that issue. :) If you could dig up a few references for it, that would be great. Valentinian ^{T / C} 23:13, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Infobox

Hello Valentinian. I use IE 6 and the map shows up just fine in the center but in Opera it is left-alligned. Thanks for pointing that out. Please, contact User:Caroig who manages that infobox. He is waiting for any bug reports. - Darwinek 22:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Done. Valentinian ^{T / C} 22:31, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Geobox Region

Well, I can't write I see because I don't see ;-) I only have IE-that-comes-withXP-SP2 on my desktop and that one shows it correctly. There are two issues:

The left alignement. That is a feature. The map here must be left aligned as it's a part of the locator dot system in the Geoboxes. If you look at e.g. Pilsen you'll see a locator dot placed automatically in the map based on the coordinates. The system calculates the relative position of the dot from the top left corner of the map and so it can't be floating. That is, however easily fixed by having the map the same width as the Geobox, preferably by not defining the map width (the system will automacally adjust the map to fit within the box).

As of the map shifted right. That's possible, it's the third report of this happening. All from IE7. I'll have to install IE7 on my laptop where it won't hopefully do much harm. The trouble here is IE6 is extremely buggy concerning diplaying HTML+CSS and every web page, including Wikipedia, constains quite a few fixes in CSS and Javascript to avoid these. Nonetheles, the combination of standard HTML+CSS + fixes for IE6 displayed in IE7 will obviously lead to even more display bugs.

So I'll have to put in even more fixes to prevent/circumvent these issues. But not today, it's about time to call it the night. Thanks for informing me. – Caroig 22:44, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. Thanks for your message. Valentinian ^{T / C} 22:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

As of the logo, that's not a problem. There's not not a dedicated coat of arms field, there's a field named symbol which can contain anything you like, it just displays Coat of arms by default, if no value is assigned to the symbol_type field which should contain the the text dislayed bellow the symbol. If you wish to you the Geoboxes until the isuue with the map is solved, you can use map1, map1_caption and map1_size fields which are not in the blank template and which display the map as image, with no formatting whatsoever. – Caroig 22:58, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I did what I was expected to do, fixed it. Wasn't that difficult after all. FYI, the color parameter in the template is only for testing purposes, to help find a suitable color for the template header (that's why it isn't displayed in the documentation). The template is a part of a series of Geoboxe in which each one has a differnt color to help identify the reader what the Geobox is about. Unfortunately the current color used for Danish regions is too similar to the one used in Template:Geobox River. If you encounter any further problems/issues with this Geobox, feel free to infrom me. – Caroig 13:19, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

You might want't to put the subdivisons to the geobox as well, see Region_Sjælland/sandbox —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Caroig (talk • contribs) 13:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

I'm planning to do so. I preferred the blue colour, but I'll probably get used to the salmon. Dark blue is probably used somewhere else. One thing that looks odd to me is not including the full name in the headline. The regions were created less than three months ago and they are never referred to without the "Region" prefix, since they have no historical or similar background. Come to think of it virtually all of them have names where the name gets a different connotation without the prefix. I doubt this situation will change as the five regions are artificial creations which will no doubt be abolished again in 8 years time (i.e. after two terms). I'll try to find some useful information for the infoboxes. Valentinian ^{T / C} 14:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

The salmon is not the final color, the thing is I haven't found a better one. It should be something different from all other Geoboxes, feel free to test other colors using the color parameter. Actually, I'd be greatful if we found a better color, we might reduce the saturation of the salmon as well.

If you feel the Region word should be in the title, keep it there. I just suggested what I thought was better, I don't feel apt to do any changes to the data in your Geoboxes, I don't live in Denmark, nor have I ever been there, that's why I put my version on a special sandbox page only. – Caroig 14:18, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

By the way, I use this template together with Template:Geobox Town (e.g. Radnice). I don't think there's a need to have a separate article for every Czech administrative division especially when they too have no historical background and not much more than just some statistical data + list of municiplaities can be provided and they even don't have a name, they're just called as an area administred by a particular town. Might be the same case for Denmark. The Geobox Town template makes use of an advanced lkocator dot placement system, just provide the map and it automatically places the locator dot based on the coordinates which in most case are within the Geoboxes anyway.– Caroig 14:29, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

More info. I've tried to calibarte one of blank Denmark maps, see here: Næstved/sandbox. The calibration is taken from the map description page (these are actually coordinates of the map's top-left and bottom-right corners), slightly adjusted by myself. If it's still not precise, you can tweak it here: Template:Geobox location Denmark. – Caroig 15:17, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I like the idea, and the calibration is fine. I made a second unsaved experiment with Odense, and it was spot on. In the ideal world, the map would look similar to the Danish locator maps, but unfortunately, the map almost all of them is derived from has Bornholm located incorrectly, which is simply Danish convention (see e.g. Image:Map DK Odense.PNG). Bornholm is actually located far East of the rest of the country, SE of the Swedish province of Skåne, so a second map will probably have to be used for the articles concerning Bornholm. A new map showing the island in its correct position wouldn't be perfect either since such a map would use more than 1/3 of its space showing southern Sweden. Regarding the second part of your post; the Danish Wikipedia normally has separate articles about the administrative / political entities vs. the towns they are named after, and the English Wikipedia uses the same system, so Odense and Odense Municipality are two different articles. The Swedish material uses the same convention. Articles exist for all Danish municipalities, all five regions, all 1970-2006 municipalities / counties and a few of the pre-1970 counties as well. I've created or updated many of these articles including (better) infoboxes has been on my to-do list for a long time. Unfortunately, I won't get the time to do it myself the next few months, but I plan to fix it sooner or later. Valentinian ^{T / C} 21:34, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the info on Starý Plzenec, that's real unbelivable. IE it's like a car where you shift in first gear and the horn sounds, shift in the second gear and the car's reversing, shift in the third gear and the doors get torn off … Might not be easily solved, probably an outer div …

Got it, the solution was not to open the roof window while the radio's on. Figuratively. Tested both in IE6 and IE7 (thank god there are just two versions). Thanks a lot for catching this – Caroig

I'm abosultely not telling what to do with articles on Denmark, it was just what could be used and what I'm currently using for Czech regions and towns. As of the dislocated island, is there a map on Wikipedia showing it correctly? We might calibrate it too. Otherwise, there would be two possible solutions:

You would need just aanother calibration which would be used for Bornholm only, the map field would remain the same.
You would use the semi-automatic locator dot placement using the map_locator_x and map_locator_y fields, which contain relative coordinates of the locator dot on the map, they are percents of the map width (this way, the sytem doesn't depend on the actual map size).

Both this settings are part of the geoboxes as there are more countries, where a country map has some sort of insets (Span and the Canaries, Portugal and the Azores etc.) – Caroig 22:15, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

To be frank, I don't know why the Danish material developed the way it did, I'm just trying to maintain it. It looks like different editors have used different conventions. Regarding IE: remember the old definition of an upgrade? "Take out old bugs, put new ones in". You forgot fourth gear: the car transforms into a rocket, goes 1,000 meters high, then does a 180 degree turn and crashes down again somewhere disasterous, like in the middle of the Charles Bridge. (Sorry, couldn't help myself.) :) I haven't found a good map showing Bornholm in its right location, but I'll try looking for one. Another possibility was using a satellite photo, something like Image:Satellite image of Denmark in July 2001.jpg just aligned better. I've tried using the infobox on the article about Roskilde and I think the result was quite good. Valentinian ^{T / C} 22:38, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

We'd better not try reversing the car, I fear WWIII might break out somehow. I started this series because I coudn't find a suitable Infobox for rivers and mountains in my country and it's grown into a larger and larger project. Three or for templates have been used for Czech municipalities so I'm trying to set an example by completing one region (Pilsen Region). – Caroig 22:56, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, {{Infobox River}} exists, see e.g. Odense River, but the geobox version looks more advanced (Oder River looks quite good). I still don't understand why Wikipedia never developed a uniform system of templates, but I like the flexibility of the geoboxes. I just made an experiment with Odense which came out alright. Valentinian ^{T / C} 23:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I know it exists but as I wrote before I was rather unhappy with it. As was I with most geography related infoboxes. Why does nearly every country have its own infoboxes for cities and regions? It's real confusing for the reader. I see a rather negative trend on Wikipedia – for many people it has become a world of its own while they fail to realize what Wikipedia is or should be – an encyclopaedia where everyone could look for any sort of information they need which would be presented in a well-arranged way.

I'm glad you like the Geoboxes, I'd be real greatful if you report on any bugs or issues you meet or ideas for their improvement (quite a few things in the Geoboxes come from suggestions of others). I would particularly appreciate if you help me make both the genarel and Geobox-specific instructions less confusing. As their creator I can never write the instructions as clearly as a user. – Caroig

I'll be glad to give you some feedback. Unfortunately, my harddisk committed harakiri yesterday, so it'll have to wait till I get my computer up and running again. Valentinian ^{T / C} 09:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

May it rest in pieces ;-) Any suggestions any time will be appreciated. – Caroig 15:03, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Deportation of the Danish police

Hej Jesper. Tak for dine bidrag til denne side. Jeg har lavet et par mindre rettelser vh Anette B

I lige måde. Velkommen til Wikipedia. Valentinian ^{T / C} 22:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Fixed wikilink in signature Angelbo 22:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Grundtvig

Valentinian - I wanted to drop by and explain the placement of the saints portal tag on the NFS Grundtvig article. Grundtvig is commemorated on the calendars of American Lutheran churches. The Saints WikiProject has added such people to the project, reflecting the broader meaning of "saint" outside of Roman Catholicism -- especially since Protestant churches have no formal process of determining saints, yet still recognize certain individuals as examples of faithfulness. -- Pastordavid 02:04, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, that makes sense. I should have guessed that some things must work a bit differently on the other side of the Atlantic. Valentinian ^{T / C} 08:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

No worries. By the way, relating to WP Denmark ...

WP Denmark Tag

I have added the WP Denmark tag to all the articles through #200 on your list, but did not remove them from the list (didn't want to edit things in your user-space), and left a note on the talk page for WP Denmark. -- Pastordavid 17:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Image help

Thanks for your help with the image for Maximus the Confessor. The article has been promoted to featured article status - and I am sure having all the image tagging staight helped. I must say, I was impressed with the process, and feel like the article was greatly improved by all the comments and help given by other editors. Anyway, thanks again. -- Pastordavid 20:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Oland

Dropped him a message. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk} 16:43, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Valentinian ^{T / C} 16:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Danish translation

I would need to ask an exact translation of a Danish sentence from a Danish speaker, and you were among the first ones I stumbled upon. The sentence in question is this: "Vi vil vende tilbage til dig i løbet af en uges tid". I know roughly what it says, but just to be sure. :) --MoRsE 15:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 16:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Danish property bubble

I noted you put Danish property bubble for deletion. While I agree that references are missing and I plan to do those over the weekend, I'm concerned you state the reason for deletion as "Wikipedia is not a crystal ball". OECD and IMF as well as several high-profile economists have expressed concern the Danish property market might be in a bubble state. I think this concern is notable and should be in an article. Nowhere does the article says the market is in a bubble state. Actually I think it is quite balanced as it notes that no substantial price falls have yet materialized in official statistics. By your logic, you should also go and delete United States housing bubble as well as all the other articles discussing housing bubbles. Para82 21:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

(moved from talk page)

I'm no fan of articles that are essentially speculative in nature. You said it rather clearly; they have a concern. They can be right or they can be wrong. Either way we don't know yet. One day we will know, but we don't know now. The title you chose makes the reader assume that a bubble is in fact in progress, and furthermore you've cited no sources at all. An article about the development in Danish real estate prices is a possibility, but any such article should not give the reader the impression that a bubble is in progress simply by glancing at the headline. Encyclopedias should be comprised of information which can be checked by others, but speculation does not normally fall into this category. An article about which persons that have claimed that there is a bubble, and how such concerns have verifiably influenced Danish society till now might perhaps work. Valentinian ^{T / C} 21:27, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. Sorry that I put the post in the wrong page - still new to using talk pages! As mentioned, I will put sources on all assertions during the weekend (I will probably include references to OECD and IMF reports as well as a study done by a major Danish bank as well as a researcher at Copenhagen Business School and some news paper articles). However, I disagree with you on the title issue. Almost every country that is in a suspected bubble state has a X-country housing bubble page. The Danish situation is no different from any of the other countries (ie. is not any more or less speculative than the bubbles in the other articles). Hence, it would be highly unnatural and inconsistent to use a different title for the Danish situation. If you disagree, feel free to try to change the titles of all the other pages, but at least be consistent! Para82 22:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Mass protection of stub templates

Hi Qxz

I notice that you've begun mass protecting a large number of stub templates. For your information, we have around 3,000 of these. Have you consulted WP:WSS at all before beginning this? Stub templates are virtually never vandalised so any such action should at least be debated with WP:WSS first. Simply protecting a large number of stub templates seems rather over the top to me. Cheers. Valentinian ^{T / C} 08:52, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi, you're not the first person to mistake me for an administrator while doing this, but I assure you I am not one. :) You'll notice I'm not editing any templates, only talk pages. All I am doing is tagging the talk pages of indefinitely protected templates with {{permprot}} in cases where this has not already been done, so that users know the protection is indefinite, and can see what to do if they want to propose changes. I am not protecting or unprotecting anything (and I can't, even if you wanted me too). If you do have an issue with any of these templates being protected, I recommend you take it up with the administrator who did protect them; you should be able to find this in the protection log. Thanks – Qxz 08:57, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. That template is normally avoided on WP:WSS, so I don't see the point in it. Well, you've definitely revealed something interesting; that several templates are protected without any reason at all. {{Poland-bio-stub}}, or {{Austria-bio-stub}}. They aren't controversial at all. Valentinian ^{T / C} 09:01, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

If you feel the protection is inappropriate, by all means request they be unprotected; I'm not making a judgement as to whether or not the protection is appropriate (unless I find a very obvious case like a protected template that's not used at all, in which case I'll go to WP:RFPP). If they are unprotected, remove the {{permprot}} again to avoid confusing people, though I recommend you leave it in place otherwise – it is useful, and apart from anything else, Special:Whatlinkshere on that template is just about the only reliable way of getting a list of all protected templates, without having to trawl through the protection log, as administrators frequently neglect to add {{protected template}} to a template when protecting it. Thanks – Qxz 09:05, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm posting a note to WP:WSS to have someone go through the list. Did you see any more than the ones you've already tagged? Valentinian ^{T / C} 09:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

So far, I have found the following fully protected stub templates. There are probably more:

– Qxz 09:22, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the list. I'll ask WP:WSS to go through it. Btw, I got a good laugh from the "advertisement" on your page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 09:26, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Glad to hear you like the ads; if you have a bit of time, there are over 30 of them (though not all humorous); click the "show another" button to go through them – Qxz 09:27, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I did. They're quite good. Btw, it is easier compiling a list like this simply by writing the entries like

{{tl|Russia-bio-stub}}
{{tl|Finland-bio-stub}} etc. Valentinian ^{T / C} 09:40, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

True. I just copied the list from Wikipedia:List of indefinitely protected pages (which I've spent the last few hours bringing up to date) and then removed the non-stub ones – Qxz 09:44, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Hærvejen

@ Jesper, I'll put the suffix in bracketts at the first mention:"Hærvej(en)". Your's sincerely --217.253.74.208 11:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)de:Benutzer:Ulamm

Replied on your talk page Valentinian ^{T / C} 12:28, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

You refer to the difference between term and name. But German readers ought to get an idea, that "-en" is not as integral as in "Bremen". Ulamm --217.253.74.208 12:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page Valentinian ^{T / C} 12:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

this is a great improvement! --Mcginnly | Natter 12:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Glad you liked it. :) Valentinian ^{T / C} 20:41, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

HEY

I CAN VANDLAISE IF I WANT ITS A FREE COUNTRY. --Frraadton nunder 21:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism is not acceptable. If you continue, you will be blocked. Valentinian ^{T / C} 21:04, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

YOU AGAIN

"Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people"

IF YOU BLOCK ME I WILL SUE YOU FOR HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS BITCH.

READ THIS SHIT IT SEZ I CAN VANDALISE: http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

--Frraadton nunder 21:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Definitely points for one of the most creative justifications of nonsense vandalism. -- Pastordavid 21:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Amen Father :) Valentinian ^{T / C} 21:13, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Yes, I noticed that El C had blocked him as I was posting some warnings for him. I guess some folks just have too much time. -- Pastordavid 21:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

By the way ... since my own bias leads me to conclude that every good Dane must also be a Lutheran, let me offer you an invite to yet another WikiProject.

You are invited to participate in Lutheranism WikiProject, a project dedicated to developing and improving articles about Lutheranism. We are currently discussing prospects for the project. Your input would be greatly appreciated!

-- Pastordavid 21:55, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I am aware of this project. Thanks for the kind offer, but my schedule is very full already, and I'm not much of a theologian. :) Valentinian ^{T / C} 22:04, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikioscar / Barnstar

Thank you very much, I apreciate a lot your compliment. --F l a n k e r 10:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

It is well deserved. You're doing a great job. I really liked e.g. the image of the Italian royal crown, the Byzantine Eagle, the flag of the Cispadanian Republic and the città mural crown. Valentinian ^{T / C} 11:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi Valentinian,

The barnstar is well deserved for your work in general, but you deserve an extra thanks for your tweak of {{Danish overseas empire}} which has been on my to do list for ages...

Thanks for your generosity! Another tweak I almost applied was to enlarge the title's font-size a little, as {{Navbox generic}} titles are slightly smaller than {{Navigation}} titles (see, for example, the "International membership" group of templates at the end of the Greenland article if you don't already know what I mean). However, a general debate as regards templates is being suggested here, so I'm waiting to see what happens there before suggesting (say) a tweak to the {{Navbox generic}} code. Thanks again, David (talk) 20:39, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 21:39, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Danish films

Hi!! Please can you help fill in the List of Danish films I am afraid it will be up for afd. I and a few other users are trying to fill the lists by country in. If you can add the details on the films already on wikipedia in year order from Category:Danish films and any others you know of from notable directors etc that would be a great help for WP Film sand Denmark!. THanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"Expecting you" "S.P.E.C.T.R.E"} 16:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

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semi-protect a stub

{{tech-company-stub}} has been semi-protected. Thanks for catching that. ~ Amalas rawr ^{=^_^=} 18:56, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot

For fixing the coding on my user page. I really appreciate it. --Guinnog 10:41, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Glad you liked it. Valentinian ^{T / C} 10:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Eastern Rumelia

Hi Jesper! I'm not sure if Eastern Rumelia ever had an official arms — after all, it existed for only seven years and the Ottoman Empire was not known for its heraldic tradition. The resemblance between the two arms (Zhefarovich's arms of "Romania" and the one in Pavlovich's lithography) only evidences that there was an established symbol of the region in Bulgarian usage, but whether it was based on any formal recognition I do not know, and I presume it wasn't, at least not the one of the Ottoman authorities. Note that the Ottoman Empire itself only had an official arms in 1882 (though not really heraldic), and Turkey doesn't have one to this day. Todor →Bozhinov 10:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 11:07, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Norsemen

Thanks for you cleanup at Norsemen, I removed the (obviously) misplaced Austrian flag myself, but I fully agree with you that Germany har no place under this heading either. Noticing what you did earlier today, I would like to suggest that you go back on your second thoughts.

A map of the nordic countries, as defined today - that is, including Finland and the northern parts of Norway/Sweden (which did not have any Norse polpulation at the relevant time - adds a useful contemperary perspective. It would be needful then to emphasize in the text that there is a difference between the countries presently defined as nordic, and the areas where from the norsemen originated. That could alse be preventive from later attempt to include Germany, or for that matter teh Baltic states, into this.
I disagree in replacing the headline "Nordic peoples" with "Scandinavian peoples". While the settlers on Faeroene and Iceland originated from areas that are prensently defined as "Scandinavia", that consempt is much later and does not include the country Iceland and Faeroene. Regards, Finnrind 16:03, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 16:12, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. (I'm adopting to the rather confusing tradition on the english wikipedia of replying on the users talk page instead of where the thread originated). I've made some changes, (hopefully) in accordance with our discussion. Some spelling check and wikifying would be appreciated. (I'm mainly contributing to no:wiki). Please feel free to remove/ add to any of my contribs. Finnrind 17:22, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Kanskje du kunne ta en titt på bidragsloggen til brukeren som skriver nedenfor her?? Vennlig hilsen Finnrind 10:05, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Jeg har set den, og jeg kan ikke lide den. Men jeg tror at det nok vil være bedst at behandle brugeren her med larmende tavshed i stedet for at opmuntre ham. Valentinian ^{T / C} 21:49, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

For å spre tråden ytterligere, så har jeg svart på norsk :-) Finnrind 23:19, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I've responded to your messages. Thank you. Regards Finnrind 23:28, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Norsemen

Hi, I think you are confusing two things - genetics and political relations. Genetic studies indicate that Germans are most related to the Danes, Swedes, and Norwegians, moreso than to any other Europeans on mainland Europe. However, this is not true for all Germans. Germans more to the south (for example, Bavarians) are more closely related to the Austrians (who are ethnically 'Germans', anyway). Even still, these Germans are very closely related to the Scandinavians, as proven by genetic studies. Germany not being a "Nordic country" by political affiliation or geographical location has no bearing on the issue. In fact, if Germany were to show interest in joining such an affiliation, Scandinavia would be powerless against her (Germany). Germany can freely impose her will on Scandinavia if it wishes so (you know this and I know this). Germany, however, doesn't care. This doesn't change genetics though.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.219.40 (talk • contribs)

WP:TROLL applies here. Valentinian ^{T / C} 15:12, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks from Akhilleus

Archive_5, thanks for your support in my successful RfA.

As the picture shows, the goddesses have already bestowed my new weapons,
which I hope to use to good effect. If you ever need assistance,
or want to give me feedback on my use of the admin tools,
please leave me a message on my talkpage.
--Akhilleus (talk) 17:26, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Stub templates

You should not remove the noinclude clauses in the stub templates. It makes the template interwikis appear in the articles where the template appears.

Regards. — Robin des Bois ♘ ➳ ✉ 20:06, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 20:34, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually, these iw help more than it would appear. For example, when you know little about a language but meet an article that should be tagged as a stub, it is more convenient to look for its template through your own language. Trust me on this, I've tried to find the stub templates in many languages (to place the iw) and they are not always easily found. The en: sp: being the reference for many languages, it is almost a duty to offer the most info to other languages whenever possible.

Thanks for the info on the sorting order. However, if you have a reference on this, I'd like to know. I thought that the standard was to place the non-encyclopedic pages (stubs, lists, portals, etc.) in the blank section and the main article of a category in the * section. But I never saw any document supporting that.

Regards. — Robin des Bois ♘ ➳ ✉ 15:43, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 17:27, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Your Multilingual talents needed

Hi! Happy spring. IIRC, you're also good with French among your other talents. So can you please see the French wikipedia and see if there is an actual link to target for Syndicat des Constructeurs d'Appareils Radiorécepteurs et Téléviseurs, and if so, at least fix up that softredirect.

This name/term originates in the tech article: SCART, and I probably should have just removed the brackets around the redlink. However, a prior version had that form as I saw running down who had placed an expert tag on the article when... but while I can live with a softredirect in principle, I have no idea whether the link is falling victim to a capitalization or punctuation variation or such. If you think it better, consider this a a db-author tagging and delete it at need. Thanks // FrankB 16:29, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 17:26, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the try. // FrankB 17:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Stub sorting query

Do I correctly recall you being part of the stub-sorting project? Need a small assist with this edit where I seem to have two (down the bottom) redlinks sect stubs from my best guesses. If this is outside your normal patrols, just drop me a note and I'll see what I can do to unconfuse myself about your mistaken identity! Thanks either way and Happy spring! I need to start thinking about planting bulbs! <g> // FrankB 22:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. Yes, Spring is clearly on its way. Happy Easter! Valentinian ^{T / C} 08:50, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:Danish Army.png

Regarding the errors you pointed out: I corrected the spelling of the 2 cities (sorry- but i don't know how to get this letter Ø in CS2 Suite) and when I looked at the grphic i saw, that i still had the German abbreviations. I chnged hat now to the correct NATO unit abbreviations: Rgt. Bn. and Coy. Thanks for pointing out the errors and helping me improving the graphic. If there is another error- please tell me and I will correct it too :-) noclador 17:25, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 17:32, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I've changed the Estonian Army Graphic. Thanks for your help. Regarding the Swedish/Norwegian/Finish Armies: this will take some time, as their structure is extremly confusing.All diffrent kinds of unit types exist (active, reserve, training, militia, and so on- i.e. example Finlands 1st Brigade consits of 4 battalions that have togehter 12 companies, but each company is of a diffrent kind and has diffrent activation status...) so i will do now the UK and Spain first. But when the time comes- i will return and ask for your help. noclador 23:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

User:Pupster21/monobook.js

		The Original Barnstar
		For getting me my account back Pupster21 19:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, and welcome back. But it is really High in BC you should thank. Valentinian ^{T / C} 19:35, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

It's my school internet settings. It doesn't like java. I got the rc script without popups and even though the rollback doesn't work, the warning pallette helps. Anyway, thanks for helping. --Pupster21 Talk To Me 19:09, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Hej!

Jag svarade på din fråga anågende bilden om "Nordiska språk" på min diskussionssida. Aaker 21:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Tak. Jeg har set det. Valentinian ^{T / C} 21:37, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Alikbek Jekshenkulov

Thanks for stub-sorting Alikbek Jekshenkulov. KazakhPol 17:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 17:26, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

You may want to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Central Asia. KazakhPol 17:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, but I don't know enough about this material. But best of luck with it. Valentinian ^{T / C} 17:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Impostor

Hi Val Just want to inform you, that you might have an imposter/impersonator. User:Vandaltinian that has been editing Denmark

Mads Angelbo 18:38, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 18:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Telegrafregimentet

Please

Proof read.
Wiki project DK rate
stub properly.
anything else you think needs be done.

regards Mads Angelbo 21:47, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Done. Valentinian ^{T / C} 22:06, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Done (kun en misforståelse, regiementet opstiller selv enhederne, de uddanner ikke andres enheder)Angelbo 22:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Lithuanian chart

Good Morning Valentinian

Thanks for the help with the spelling of the cities/names in the Lithuanian Armed Forces chart. I already corrected them and posted the new grapic. Thanks for the help again. noclador 08:08, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. Valentinian ^{T / C} 09:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Euro referendum

Hi! Could you take a look at User_talk:Theeuro#The_euro_inside_part_3.1? I'm fairly certain I would have noticed if such a referendum had been announced, but Theeuro (who works for the ECB) says he's fairly sure it's already been announced (or should have been), as the ballots were printed for 2007... Thanks! —Nightst a llion (?) 16:29, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi again, Nightstallion. Thanks for your post. Given the content, I hope it is ok that I reply here? With all possible respect, I sincerely doubt this story. First of all, nobody has called any vote on the euro. Denmark's Venstre/Conservative cabinet remains committed to one day introducing the euro, but it is a very clear promise to the Danish electorate that any such action will only take place after a referendum - which is also needed as § 20 in the constitution requires the approval of 5/6s of the members of Parliament to allow any transfer of sovereignty. This is not possible in the Danish case, as the Danish People's Party and the Red-Green Alliance hold more than 1/6 of the seats in parliament, and given that the people have been promised a vote, it would be political suicide to try to avoid it. I strongly suspect that the members of the Socialist People's Party will also vote against, even if its leaders change course. Anyway, all important parties have promised Danes that any such decision will take the form of a referendum. However, due to the 1993 Edinburgh Agreement, Denmark has the right to remain outside of the euro for eternity should Denmark choose so. The Swedish situation is different, as Sweden has legally committed itself to actually introducing the euro. Denmark hasn't. It is also unlikely that Denmark would only vote on one of our four opt-out clauses - even more so as one of them has effectively lost all relevance, as one could say that the rest of the EU has taken the same reservation about EU citizenship as Denmark took in 1993. So in all likelihood any future vote will concern all four opt-out clauses. However, one of these is about a common EU foreign policy, and I can't imagine such a vote as long as Denmark has troops in Iraq. In fact, the biggest threat against the prospect of Denmark joining the EU's common foreign policy is the traditional French wish to see the EU becoming a rival to the USA and NATO. Such a policy has no support in the Danish cabinet, and very little support in the general public. President Bush is unpopular, but not America. Anyway, in both parliamentary elections and euro elections, female public servants are more likely to vote respectively against the cabinet or "no", and many women wish to see the Danish troops back home. This is the issue where the government has met the most critique, in particular from female voters, so there'll definitely be no controversial proposals before the troops are safely home again. This will happen late in the summer.

Regarding the technical aspect; all Danish campaigns take 21 days, as the election law specifies that voters have the right to cast absentee ballots three weeks in advance of the day of the vote. However, for such votes, a mock write-in paper is used, you don't get an official ballot. The voter registration / voters' id cards used for voting on the "correct" date are printed by the Ministry of Taxation within the 21 day time frame as it is necessary to assign each voter a specific number on the local electoral roll, so it is necessary to know each person's exact place of residence at the time of the vote (special rules apply if you move within the last week or so before the election). Ballot papers are printed around the same time, for reasons of security and the actual design of the ballot paper is withheld until the last possible moment. The official ballot paper is shown on the evening news, the day before the actual vote. I can't believe anybody would wish to change this practice which works very well. Likewise, I don't see why Schultz's Publishing House should begin printing ballots early, as this would involve placing the ballot papers under maximum security for an extended period of time. The domestic situation also makes a vote unlikely. Denmark has just gone through the biggest administrative reform in 30 years, but this process is not yet complete, and many details still need to be hammered out. The administration is using a lot of manpower on this issue. In June, the framework for this year's public economy will have to be negotiated between the Union of Danish Municipalities / Danish Regions vs. the government, so that blanks out the entire month. Maintaining control of the public purse here is priority no. 1 for the cabinet, and the municipalities already demand much more cash. These negotiations will be seen as a litmus test regarding the soundness of the administrative reform. Other pressing issues is the construction of a great expansion of the Copenhagen Metro, and the Fehmarn Belt Bridge still waits in the wings, although Germany will probably still reject it. A commission is currently sitting debating the investment in Danish infrastructure for the next 20 years. Several other policy issues are likely to flare up again. Last autumn, Fogh announced a "quality reform" of the public sector but the exact contents have yet to materialise, but he repeated this promise a few months ago in his Tuesday questioning time. At last year's party convention, Venstre members were told that this was his top priority for the 2006-07 session. One of the government's biggest successes has been the economy which is booming (currently slowing down just enough to avoid actually overheating.) Denmark has the highest public surplus in the EU, the highest employment rate and the lowest unemployment figures. The public debt / GDP ratio is one of the lowest in the EU and rapidly dropping, housing prices are high. The economy has slowed down a bit, but this was actually necessary to avoid overheating the labour market. Danes are happy at the moment, the Prime Minister is popular, and the opposition has been in disarray for the last two years. Why should he wish to spoil this tranquil situation by introducing something deeply controversial on the agenda? At least 45 % will still vote no to the euro no matter what a poll may say. Historically, the EU referenda have had very close results with just a few per cent majority either way. No matter the official theme on the ballot, Danes consistently treat these referenda as referenda for or against the EU as an idea and institution, and my guess would be that around 45% either hate or resent the EU. I also find the story about the coloured ballot papers extremely unlikely. For as long as anybody can remember, Danish ballot papers have been white with black print without anything fancy (they're yellow with black print for regional elections). I don't believe I will ever see a multicoloured, nor a bilingual ballot paper. In addition, it is extremely unlikely that the government would do anything to compromise the vote on the succession law. 40 % of all eligible voters have to vote "yes" here and given that at least 12-15 % will stay home, it will still be very tough getting enough people to actually come down and vote. The similar vote in 1953 almost fell though. All political parties are in favour of this motion, but an EU vote on the same day as a vote on this subject might get the controversy from the EU vote to spill over into the succession law vote. This became a long post, sorry about it, but I just can't make the details match. Same goes for a common Scandinavian euro design. Such a course is only possible if it is decided that the number of national coin faces will be reduced drastically, but unless such a decision is taken, it is extremely unlikely. It has been a long running comment in Denmark that any Danish euro coin would feature the Queen in order to have a chance of being accepted. The National Bank of Denmark drew a suggestion three years ago: [5] I can't imagine a Swedish design featuring anything but either King Carl Gustav or the three crowns. I have not heard any reports that Iceland should wish to join the euro, and Iceland has not shown any apparent desire to join the EU. Valentinian ^{T / C} 22:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the information; I can't comment on the Danish issue, as you're the expert on that, but Iceland *has* indeed been considering adopting the euro due to its volatile inflation. —Nightst a llion (?) 04:26, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Incidentally, I've read Denmark will withdraw its troops from Iraq by August, so it's technically possible to hold such a vote afterwards but before the end of 2007; and have you got an idea about when the succession law referendum will be held? Thanks! —Nightst a llion (?) 04:32, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Iceland's economy is all too known for the inflation I'm afraid. I agree, it is technically possible to do a vote on the euro before the end of the year, but again, the information about the already printed ballots sounds very unlikely to me. No news about the succession law vote, but I just rechecked the constitution (§ 88).[6] The procedure applied will be the same as for changes to the constitution and this procedure involves that the bill must first be passed by Parliament, then a parliamentary election must be held, then the new parliament has to approve the same bill without changes, and then the people will have to be consulted by referendum less than 6 months after the second adoption of the bill. This referendum must meet two requirements: #1 a majority must be in favour, #2 40%+ of all eligible voters must vote "yes". If all this happens, the bill is presented to the monarch, and when she signs it, it becomes law. So in short, we won't see this vote before the next general elections. Valentinian ^{T / C} 06:57, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Btw, should any decision like this have been taken already, it will only be known to a total of six politicians, three from Venstre and three from the Conservatives. All major policy decisions are cleared in this group, and the press has - so far - not been able to get any leaks from it. I don't think this situation has changed. Valentinian ^{T / C} 09:04, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the information! That would have been my next question -- if the succession law referendum will have to be held anyway, couldn't they hold the euro referendum at the same time or at least pass the euro introduction amendment at the same time, as they'll have to dissolve parliament, anyway? —Nightst a llion (?) 13:40, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

You don't have to dissolve parliament to vote on the euro. The constitution allows a transfer of sovereignty without changing the actual constitution. The only requirement is the approval of 5/6s of Parliament. No such majority exists in the current parliament, but politicians argue that they respect the will of the people above everything else, so it is convention that if the people approves such a suggestion in a referendum, Parliament will then accept the result as a fixed mandate. So the euro vote does imply a transfer of sovereignty, but it is not directly linked to the constitution, so the constitution will be unaffected and the parliament will remain sitting. But why the dissolution of Parliament in case of the succession law then if the two aren't connected? Here is the tricky part; the succession law isn't integrated into the constitution either, however the constitution's § 2 specifically mentions that the last succession law was passed in 1953. It reads: "The form of government is a restricted [=constitutional] monarchy. Royal power is inherited to males and females according to the specifications of the Law of Succession of 27 March 1953." So in fact, we're technically speaking changing the entire constitution, but effectively only changing one single date to make § 2 point to a new law. AFAIK, Parliament has already passed the new succession law, it just can't enter into force until the rest of the procedure is completed. It all boils down to the date specified in the constitution's § 2. Back to the European cases; when Denmark accepted the Amsterdam Treaty and Common Market, referenda were simply held and the Queen signed the bills into law. It involved no further complications. It is hypothetically possible that a euro referendum could be held the same day as a vote on the succession law, but I very much doubt it. The government is keen on seeing the succession law passed and it will be an embarrassment if something should go wrong here. I still think the euro vote will be held on a separate day, but if Fogh feels like it next spring, who knows if we suddenly get a euro vote then? In that case, the euro would be introduced before the future change to the succession law. Valentinian ^{T / C} 18:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I forgot to mention it before; due to the different nature of the two ballots, any referendum on the euro will simply require a majority of the votes cast, nothing more. The succession law vote will require both a majority and approval from 40%+ of the electorate. Valentinian ^{T / C} 08:00, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks a lot for answering my questions! So it's technically possible they're planning something, but just haven't announced it yet, I suppose. We'll see soon enough. I'd love to have some Danish euro coins. ;) —Nightst a llion (?) 12:26, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome, and yes, it is technically possible, but it is very unlikely that any steps have been taken in the physical world. For my part, I'd personally love to see the Danish krone beat the Swiss franc :) On the other hand, if Denmark actually adopts the euro, it will be a good opportunity to start a new coin collection. Valentinian ^{T / C} 12:38, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Dansk userbox

Det er strengt talt standard layout for nasjonalitet-userboxene. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssolbergj (talk • contribs)

These boxes have no standard layout and no standard format. That is not a problem. I can't help that somebody thought that grey must go with anything but it doesn't (unless we're talking about a suit). Valentinian ^{T / C} 15:00, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Ny template til WP:DK

Hej Val.
Vil du se på denne template User:Angelbo/template før jeg flytter den til {{WP DK invite}}
-Angelbo ^{Talk / Contribs} 19:35, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Og så burde denne kategori Category:Danish_imams nok ses efter om de er stubs eller start artikler, nogen af dem mangler WP DK tags, andre har tags hvor WP DK og WP BIO lister som både start og stub. - Angelbo ^{Talk / Contribs} 19:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Kender du til artikler der skal med i Nav boxene der er herUser:Angelbo/template?, og er denne billedtekst [7] OK med dig?

-Angelbo ^{Talk / Contribs} 22:42, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Jeg har kommet med et par forslag. Billedteksten er helt ok. Valentinian ^{T / C} 23:08, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

gov-stub

Regarding this edit, is there some rule somewhere that stubs cannot take parameters? Even if there is, why did you also remove the noinclude sections? — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 22:30, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 22:40, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Iceland

Maybe you are interested in this project... --Michkalas 16:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Military-Insignia

Template:Military-Insignia has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Megapixie 02:40, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what to say really. Three days since the last one was closed and you're already reproposing it. No need to comment there if it is just going to be ignored anyway. Valentinian ^{T / C} 07:53, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

New article: Reindeer hunting in Greenland

I have finally gone public with my new article:

Reindeer hunting in Greenland

-- Fyslee/talk 07:49, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

County of Vest Recklinghausen

Ich habe gesehen, daß Du "County of Vest Recklinghausen" nach "County of West Recklinghausen" verschoben hast. Das ist aber falsch. Vest ist eine ältere deutsche Bezeichnung für einen Gerichts- oder Amtsbezirk und hat nichts mit "West" zu tun. Siehe auch: [8] Grüße--87.183.211.7 21:11, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Ich habe sofort meinen Fehler korrigiert. Vielen Dank für die Information. Grüße Valentinian ^{T / C} 21:18, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Coming from someone with as long a record of valuable contributions as yourself, it is all the more valuable to me. Thank you very much. Hemmingsen 05:21, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. It is well deserved. Valentinian ^{T / C} 21:49, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

DLS logo

Fixed now Angelbo ^{Talk / Contribs} 01:17, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Albanian Military

Hi Valentinian Thanks for your support regarding the rather threatening Gon4z. In my eyes, this is wikipedias greatest problem: users that refuse to accept edits with the argument, that once they had so much work. I did now reedit the articles Albanian Land Forces Command & Military of Albania and hope that the compromise I choose between Gon4z outdated information and the new one I inserted will be accepted by Gon4z. This refusal to update articles is so much worse in the German Wikipedia: i.e. APP-6a: when trying to update & expand the German version I was rebuffed with the argument: "Dafür habe ich mir damals nicht die Mühe gemacht"... And currently I'm trying to fend off a user, who wants to replace the current German Army structure graphic with this: Organigramm as he says his version is "in gänze besser"... Therefore I'm very grateful for any help and support in dealing with these annoying users. Thanks again for your help noclador 10:35, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Valentinian ^{T / C} 12:48, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I didn’t know that article ownership is such a problem on the English wikipedia too. I have stopped working on the German wikipedia, as I spent more time trying to reason with article possessors, than actually writing articles.

Therefore I’m focusing now on the Military Articles in the English wikipedia and specialising in OrBats and the associated graphics.

Thanks for pointing out the link. I knew about it before and I based my graphic of the Structure of the Albanian Land Forces mainly on it, but including further details and information I took from military periodicals. But whenever you stumble on something similar about any other Military Land Forces in the world- please inform me about it so that I can continue to expand and to update the OrBat Graphics.

Regarding the Albanian Military: I'm sure about my numbers, but I still need some online proof to be able to show to user Gon4z that his numbers are out of date by at least 4 years. noclador 12:25, 2 May 2007 (UTC)