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An alien creature bursts out of the Engineer's chest in the lifeboat.

Dear Casliber,

I'm here to convince you a bit about why I want to change that statement. In the Prometheus article, you overhauled the plot section. While I agree with most of your changes, I want to change back the sentence in italic. (But to consider what I'm about to say, I'd like to ask you to read the whole paragraph first.)

"Shaw goes to the lifeboat and finds her alien offspring is alive and has grown to gigantic size. David's still-active head warns Shaw that the Engineer has survived. The Engineer forces open the lifeboat's airlock and attacks Shaw, who releases her alien offspring onto the Engineer; it thrusts a tentacle down the Engineer's throat, subduing him. Shaw recovers David's remains, and with his help, launches another Engineer spacecraft. She intends to reach the Engineers' homeworld in an attempt to understand why they wanted to destroy humanity. An alien creature bursts out of the Engineer's chest in the lifeboat."

After you re-read this part ^, you'll notice that when you reach "to understand why they wanted to destroy humanity" all the long action sequences and all the crew members' storylines conclude at this point. A sense of catharsis/closure sets in. A paragraph usually contains one point, one subject, so "An alien creature bursts out of the Engineer's chest in the lifeboat" reads out of place here, as it is unrelated to the current topic, and the Alien scene in the lifeboat is not located in the immediate vicinity of Shaw's last scene, the Engineer's Ship. There's no apparent connection that leads to the "An alien creature bursts out of...", so this require a paragraph break to start an unrelated point. However, at the beginning of another paragraph, if we're changing a topic, we need something to set the reader up. The key message is "An alien creature bursts out of the Engineer's chest", but the readers are left without context/location until the end of the sentence/paragraph ("in the lifeboat") which is jarring. So to set up the context and deliver the message in one sentence, it should be "In the lifeboat, an alien creature bursts out of the Engineer's chest."

So... due to the reasons above, I hope you agree with my edit. Sorry if it's so long. Anthonydraco (talk) 07:55, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I did ponder this at the time as I agree that there is a break in ideas. I combined them in hte end due to the weirdness of having a lone sentence stuck out at the end in a para by itself, but can see your point as well. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:57, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Well, if you feel it weird, maybe we can think of it as a post-credit scene of sort, although this happens in plot synopsis section instead of the actual film. An epilogue, if you prefer. One sentence paragraph then a leave-off at the end happens all the time. And personally, I think this scene is almost as good as a post-credit scene. If you watch the DVD, the visual/audio/plot emphases are very clear. All the main storylines conclude, Shawn goes off to a far reach of space, her ship flies off-screen, her narration that resembles the end of Alien ends, the choir trails off in a long note, the scene slowly goes black. It takes unusually longer time than a normal cut-to before the next scene comes in again, clearly indicating that time has passed. The movie could've ended at Shaw. It's almost as if Scott wanted to place this Alien post-credit, but the Alien bursting out of the Engineer's chest is too important to have some audience miss it, if you know what I mean. Anthonydraco (talk) 17:29, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Gene migration research, India --> Australia

This http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21569688-genetic-evidence-suggests-four-millennia-ago-group-adventurous-indians points to a gene study you may be interested in.... Likely people from the Indian sub-continent mixed with Australian aboriginies 4xxxx years ago. An maybe brought dingos. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 09:24, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Will read anon. Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:59, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

The best type of DYK award

		The 50 DYK Nomination Medal
		Well for a person with so many FAs that you have helped with and the DYKs that you have written, then some may say that this is a minor award. However nominating other peoples articles is not easy and does encourage team working and new editors. So I'd like to thank you on behalf of the DYK project, me and the wiki. Thank you Victuallers (talk) 14:11, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Heh, thanks! Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:32, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Request

Hi. I'm a bit confused, it seems that some general functions of the server do not work correctly: in the pharaoh boxes (example: Peribsen) the hieros won't be hidden and the collecting boxes at the bottom are also not to hide. Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 15:36, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

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Dragonlance characters

Hi, Casliber! I know you have come through with sources before, so I was wondering if you could find any additional sources for Goldmoon, Raistlin Majere, Caramon Majere, Tasslehoff Burrfoot, Tanis Half-Elven, Riverwind, Kitiara uth Matar, Sturm Brightblade and Flint Fireforge? We are trying to make sure we meet the WP:GNG at minimum, and preferably exceed that and truly improve the articles. BOZ (talk) 18:37, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Good idea - I don't think I have any dragonlance related material which could be helpful....Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:10, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Ah well, thanks for checking. I'm trying to make these good enough to keep them as separate articles rather than having them merged back in, so I started a new thread on the list page. BOZ (talk) 16:44, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

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Up for a peer review?

Hello Casliber, would you please consider doing a pre-GA peer review of circumcision? Your input would be greatly appreciated here! Sandy had a quick look at it but it seems she's been busy with FA stuff, and I'm far from that. I saw you listed as a Peer Reviewer for medical articles so I'm hitting you up. Thanks very much... Zad68 21:31, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Closing a discussion

Hi Casliber, the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Ending the Gibraltar restrictions will need closing by about 14:00 UTC tomorrow (having run for the usual week). As you are uninvolved in the Gibraltar controversy, would you be willing to close and summarise the discussion? It should be a fairly simple job as there seems to be a pretty strong consensus. Prioryman (talk) 23:22, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Only eight people have commented in six days - given its importance WRT issues on the mainpage and also the review it is critical that we not seen to be jumping the gun on this one. I would not feel comfortable closing this tomorrow. It is a pity the review is not destined to be concluded till the end of January or mid February. I'd say this needs to be open another week minimum in any case. Alerts need to be placed on Centralised Discussion, and Village Pump too - I have not checked whether these have been done. Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:13, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

I hardly think it's jumping the gun, and I don't particularly want to turn the discussion into a circus, which would be guaranteed by posting alerts elsewhere - it's fundamentally a matter for the DYK project. The outcome of the review is frankly irrelevant to the discussion. The historical question of how Gibraltarpedia was set up in the first place has no bearing on how Gibraltar-related articles are to be treated going forward. The restrictions were only imposed because there were concerns about COI and promotion in relation to the competition being promoted by Gibraltarpedia. There was never any connection between the restrictions and the review, which was announced after the restrictions were imposed. As that competition ended a week ago, the rationale for those restrictions no longer exists and the editors who proposed and agreed the restrictions agree that they should be lifted. Citing the review as a reason for not lifting them is moving the goalposts, frankly, and makes little sense. Prioryman (talk) 08:15, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Ok, that's your view. I think it'd be prudent to leave this open longer. You are welcome to ask someone else, but I think at the minimum leaving it another week with more comments is wise. The issue has been an important one, and not publicising it and closing it at seven days does not give the appearance of due process/transparency. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:57, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Cas. I'm dropping a quick note off here to let you know that I mentioned (and quoted) you in my comments here where I closed the 'Ending the Gibraltar restrictions' discussion that Prioryman asked you about. Carcharoth (talk) 06:53, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

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WP:FOUR for Omphalotus nidiformis

		Four Award
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Thanks! Casliber (talk · contribs) 18:43, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

PR request

Hi Casliber, I see you are on the volunteer list for peer reviews. I saw you recently won a four award, and you're interested in football, so I think you could be the perfect person to peer review an article I have recently done a lot of work on. If you have time, the review can be found at Wikipedia:Peer review/Pavel Nedvěd/archive1 There are currently no articles of Czech football rated above B-class so I am very excited about this one. Thanks for your time, C679 21:04, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Free time is patchy and I have a couple of pressing chores....but will see what I can do. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:26, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! C679 05:53, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Cancel request, another kind soul has done it. Thanks, C679 06:42, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Sydney meetup on Thursday

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Have a minute to double-check my first-ever GA review?

Hi Casliber, would you have a minute to double-check my first ever GA review here: Talk:Carnotaurus/GA1. I've seen you active at biology GA reviews, and also paleontology FA reviews, so you have all the creds to check my work. I'd very much appreciate it, thanks... Zad68 18:41, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Looks pretty thorough at first glance - further ideas for giving it a shove towards FA are always a Very Good Idea. Essentially, I try to look at an article thinking, "how can I make this better?" and take it from there. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:25, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much! Zad68 04:30, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

User:Spoildead

You realize you just templated a DYK for an indeff'd blocked sock right? Hell In A Bucket (talk) 08:07, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh, no I didn't....still indefblocked =/= banned so I am happy to give credit where credit's due..... Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:29, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Ok, just my personal opinion that this would be feeding the trolls, positive reinforcement for block evasion. Just my opinion though. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 08:34, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

I don't want you to feel sandbagged or smeared but I have raised this question at Wikipedia talk:Sock puppetry to discuss and determine a consensus. I did not name you by name but I did use the SpoilDead page as an example so you should at least know about it. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 09:09, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Both points, still a member and deny, are valid so I suggest as a compromise simply moving the dyk credit from the sock account to the master. That way we don't imply to be endorsing the socking but still give credit where credit is due. NE Ent 13:36, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

I agree with this approach, and would have suggested it if I had thought of it. To be honest I was just moving the hooks and hadn't realised who had written the article. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:40, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

 Done NE Ent 15:03, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Credit shouldn't be due. If they want to edit, they should request an unblock on the main account. Giving 'credit' for evading a block is basically endorsing their block evasion. --Onorem♠Dil 15:40, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

I agree with everything that's been mentioned so far. I don't want anyone to think I thought Casliber did anything wrong or out of bad faith. It was just a overall discussion of possible issues, maybe we can find a solution that fixes this like permentantly full protectino on sock pages so we can't make errors like that. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 01:32, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Scolosaurus

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Elephant FAC

Thanks for reviewing. Can you do a quick spotcheck with it too? LittleJerry (talk) 18:15, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

I know your busy with your own FAC. But I hope you got my message. :) LittleJerry (talk) 21:42, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Roupala

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DYK for Neorites

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Elfin Woods Warbler

Some improvements were made, but many of the comments I made at User:Dweller/Featured Articles that haven't been on Main Page are still unresolved. Also, if there was any way to find the birthday of Angela Kay Kepler, it'd be cool to get the article scheduled for main page on that date. Otherwise, May 18? --Dweller (talk) 10:51, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Ok, hang on a sec. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:09, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Blue-footed Booby/GA1

Casliber, I noticed that you stopped by the Black-throated warbler today, so maybe you're already on it, but the booby and the warbler reviews have been sitting without much action for quite a while. Is there something special needed to get them moving again? There are a lot of these bird articles that were picked up around the end of November but are still being reviewed, and it would be very nice to get some of them to a happy (or perhaps less happy) conclusion. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:22, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I was starting to examine the sourcing today, but find I need some uninterrupted time to focus on these. I think I'll be done with both in the next 48 hours. Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:52, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Great to know you're planning to finish them soon. Thanks. There are a couple of dozen reviews over a month old, and I thought some just needed a friendly reminder to get them moving again now that we're in a new year. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:06, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Canis Minor

Hello. You have a new message at User talk:Keilana's talk page.

Hey, how do collabs work for WikiCup? I've got no idea... Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 04:17, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Just list 'em and let the bot sort it out. AFAICR a person gets the same points for something regardless of whether a solo or team effort. I reckon this is ok given we are supposed to be promoting collaborative editing. Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:54, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Yeah that makes sense. I care less about points 'n' stuff than improving content and collaborating... Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 06:28, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Reliable source?

There's a lot of new & interesting stuff in William Tyler Olcott's Star Lore, but it's from 1911 (republished in 2004) and therefore iffy IMO. What do you think about using it for CMi? If you're cool with it, I can work on incorporating the information. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 04:03, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

I suppose it's no less dodgy than Allen (from 1899) - it'd be good to see if certain aspects concur with material elsewhere. I am trying to focus on material about Canis Minor as a whole, and leave stuff specific to Procyon to that article.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:06, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Hah, that's true. I'll try to corroborate with some sources that don't cite Olcott, for example. I agree with the focus on the whole constellation, have to keep myself from the temptation of writing about Procyon too! I'll comb through it sometime in the next couple of days and see what I can glean. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 04:47, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

The Cup

Hey Casliber, I see you've signed up for the WikiCup. This is my first year of participation, and it'll be fun to see how far I get along. Given the sources I have access to, my submissions have the potential to range from the sublime to the ridiculous. What projects do you have on tap? WesleyDodds (talk) 11:59, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Sublime choices - Rickrolling the main page..love it :) - early on, DYK is a good way to keep points ticking over - there'd be oodles of stubby songs I'm sure....Steam (Peter Gabriel song) is short enough currently for a straightforward 5x expand for DYK...there'll be others...I'd just doin' a bunch of stars, plants, birds etc......Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:45, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Short ones also - A Date with Elvis (The Cramps album) ....Why Can't I Be You?....Concert: The Cure Live (nice album this).....I'm sure there are others.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:53, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Showing my age here, but I was actually at one of the concerts recorded for the Cure album. I was 15. Will have to have a look at that article... Black Kite (talk) 14:17, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Any live album which corrects the anemic previous version of A Forest and make it sound how it should have sounded has kudos points for me.....I saw 'em in Sydney after.....jeez have to figure out which album preceded that one.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:02, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

The "Concert" album gigs were to promote The Top and from what I remember were quite heavy in material from that although the actual live disc chooses to ditch all but two tracks from it! I remember being disappointed that they didn't play more from Pornography which is still my favourite cure album - I think the two tracks on "Concert" may have been the only ones in the whole set. Black Kite (talk) 13:48, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Maybe they were just so chuffed that 100 years segues so well into A Forest that they thought it couldn't be topped....I am not surprised you like that one, it is a favourite of friends of mine too. It has been a loooong time since I listened to it right through. My wife is nonplussed by the Cure and my kids were not enthused...although they did like Killing an Arab. My son OTOH really likes Simple Minds (I've been hauling out loads of CDs and playing them in the car)...this song is also a favourite now.Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:08, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm, some redlinks I can see at Ian_Dury_discography ....Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:17, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

If you ever want to work on a Cure article, I have a pretty thorough Cure biography on hand that I can use to help you out. WesleyDodds (talk) 00:57, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Aaallllllright, a quick 5x expansion to get some points on the board.......Why Can't I Be You? should be straightforward, with a DYK about Smith in the bear suit in the video or the fact that the studio for the film clip was owned by MTM :) Let's roll.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:13, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Be right back, gonna get mah book. WesleyDodds (talk) 09:41, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Done. Surprisingly little about the song in that Apter book, but to be fair it's not "Just Like Heaven". WesleyDodds (talk) 09:59, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

(grunt) nearly there ta DYK size....Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:00, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

There's a little bit about the song's sound in the Apter book, but quite sparse. Shall I add that? WesleyDodds (talk) 11:34, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, please do as that's a bit lacking in the article build so far....Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:57, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Also want to mention, I own this book. It breaks down the musical structure of all the songs covered (sure beats the now-pervasive Wiki practice of citing the sheet music, which if you ask me is quite problematic). Check out the table of contents; if there's anything in there you might want to make GA or FA that isn't already, let me know. WesleyDodds (talk) 12:07, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

I must say, that is a funny selection of songs - Waterfront (song) comes to mind - that is 157 words so would be possible to 5x expand as a first step and see how it shapes up. A Forest is my fave Cure track, so it'd be good to slot in the music bit (I am technically inept at music so I can copyedit but that might be about it in discussing scales etc.) Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:14, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Talking into account the Inside Classic Rock Tracks book, the Apter book, and this, I dare say "A Forest" could become A Featured Article. WesleyDodds (talk) 13:21, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Interesting - and we have precursors - nice version that. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:27, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm about to fall asleep, so I'll add the last bits from the Apter book when I awake. In the meantime, try and convince Ceoil to join us. He used to be a goth, so he's good for it. WesleyDodds (talk) 13:44, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Gawd, I just realised it's pretty late where you are as it is nearly 1 am here and I'm in Sydney....yeah, nagging Ceoil time. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:46, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

PS: Sorted the DYK stuff..so now we wait. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:08, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

(will get to adding those last bits from Apter once I stop procrastinating on pressing off-Wiki work) Query: do you have a preference for citation styles? I noticed on "A Forest" that you use the cite web templates, but I tend to just do plain text. I'll defer to your choice on this article, though. WesleyDodds (talk) 10:06, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Cool, just a tad preoccupied with something right now anyway - I generally use templates as that way I don't guff or miss any formatting... Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:06, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

My first GA nom for the Cup is finally ready. Now to focus on other tasks! WesleyDodds (talk) 14:01, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Almost forgot my manners: nice work bashing out that "Why Can't I Be You?" expansion together. "A Forest" is definitely my next priority; might be a little slow in the next few days due to off-wiki work, but will ramp up definitely in about a week. Whatever you can add in the meanwhile will be greatly appreciated. In the meantime, I hope Ceoil reads his memos. WesleyDodds (talk) 12:46, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

I cited the NME review for "Hot Hot Hot!!!", but unfortunately I don't have one for "The Caterpillar". Maybe scour the Cure fansites? WesleyDodds (talk) 13:57, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

I did a bit of a squiz before....I've not edited in the field so a bit at sea WRT which sites are Reliable Sources.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:59, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

If you're lucky some diehards will scan old magazine articles. WesleyDodds (talk) 14:03, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Aside from our joint Cure collabo, what are your potential FA point-adders? I've got a few projects I can start, and some long delayed ones. Apparently I'd get double points if I promoted The Cure to FA. I've slacked and haven't visited that article in about a year, but even after I get around to cleaning it up I believe one of the main reasons I haven't gone all the way with it yet is because I wanted to try and track down the official bio Ten Imaginary Years published back in the '80s first. WesleyDodds (talk) 07:36, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Aah, I checked my uni library online catalogue - it has The dark reign of gothic rock : in the reptile house with The Sisters of Mercy, Bauhaus and The Cure, which looks interesting. I have meagre sources, though will scour library digital catalog for articles which might be helpful. Am thinking a 5x expansion for Waterfront is next. It is surprising what has sourced content and what hasn't. Will have a think.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:24, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Speaking of expansions, do you know if any articles for R.E.M. singles released prior to 2003 might be eligible for a DYK makeover? I thought Pop Song 89 might be, from a glance, though there's much more interesting a-sides to write about from that band. WesleyDodds (talk) 11:43, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

I was never a huge REM fan...I guess checking though Category:R.E.M. songs is a place to start. Most ones I know best are already expanded to some degree so 5x looks ambitious....Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:11, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

You know what I could make into a GA with the aid of a very thick book I have on my shelf? Depeche Mode. WesleyDodds (talk) 12:00, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Cool......I just made Love Song (Simple Minds song)...coulndt believe no-one had done that...nor the american neither...both sublime tracks....Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

I take it someone here likes Simple Minds. Over we mostly just know that song from The Breakfast Club. I am familiar with slightly more than that, but they've never really won me over aside from that song ("Promised You a Miracle" is one that leaves me cold, for instance). WesleyDodds (talk) 09:59, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, they are like that - my wife would rate their listenability as a solid "zero" as do 3 of my 4 kids...and most of my friends at the time. I really liked Life in a Day ("Murder Story" and "Chelsea Girl" are standouts), Sparkle in hte Rain and Alive and Kicking (the last album possibily a bit middle-of-the-road). I found a great quote by Jim Kerr...look at the DYK hook...they might have ended up with a respectability and whole different direction..(chuckle) Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:47, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Ceoil says he has Cure books now. At least he said so on my talk page. WesleyDodds (talk) 11:20, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Cool! Well, if you guys start adding info..I'll see what I can do....Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:29, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

I've added about all I can to "A Forest". Hope you like the result. WesleyDodds (talk) 09:47, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

You feel happy nominating it at GAN? Ceoil and I'll be there right behind ya ;) Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:42, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

fMRS peer review

Hi Casliber, I have opened a WP:Peer review for fMRS article. It is perhaps not exactly your subject of interest, but could you possibly look at the article, rate it and suggest the necessary changes? Thanks! --Dcdace (talk) 12:51, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

I was just following up for Dcdace, since I asked them to ask at WP:PRV (and I cleaned up that page recently). Wikipedia:Peer review/Functional magnetic resonance spectroscopy of the brain/archive1 perhaps? Or leave them a message at their talk page? Best. Biosthmors (talk) 23:23, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Copyedit

Hey.

I did some rearranging of the text for SandyGeorgia, but apparently that backfired. Would you be able to do another copyedit review this week? Thank you. LittleJerry (talk) 19:15, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for copyediting the article. Please inform me when your finished. LittleJerry (talk) 16:00, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

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The Huia, which became extinct in the early 20th century, was the largest species of New Zealand wattlebird. It belonged to a family found only in New Zealand, one so ancient that no relation is found elsewhere. Already rare before Europeans arrived in New Zealand, it was confined to some mountain ranges in the south east of the North Island. It had deep metallic, bluish-black plumage with a greenish iridescence on the upper surface, especially about the head. It was remarkable for having the most pronounced sexual dimorphism in bill shape of any species of bird in the world. The female's beak was long, thin and arched downward, while the male's was short and stout. The last confirmed sighting was in 1907. Its extinction had two main causes: overhunting to procure Huia skins for mounted specimens for museums and private collectors, and widespread deforestation by European settlers to create agricultural pasture. The Huia is one of New Zealand's best known extinct birds because of its bill shape, its sheer beauty and special place in Māori culture and oral tradition. Māori regarded the bird as tapu (sacred), and the wearing of its skin or feathers was reserved for people of high status. (Full article...)

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DYK for Why Can't I Be You?|

Hi Casliber, just a note to tell you I've done a quick review of the above Cure track you nominated for DYK, but although listed as a 5X expansion, the article has only increased from a 2,415 bytes article on 22 January to 5194 bytes. To be accepted as a 5x expansion the article needs to be around 12,000 bytes long. Not sure if you want to revisit the article or not; I await your reply on the template. Thanks FruitMonkey (talk) 19:42, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Casliber, I've now passed the DYK. It seemed a bit strange that someone with your experience would place an article for DYK that fell so short. I've kind of walked away from DYK, and in my day we used to just count the bytes, ...it was all trees back then too, and a bag of chips cost you 3p. etc. etc. Yours FruitMonkey (talk) 23:24, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

(chuckle) yeah...Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:47, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

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Would this interest you at all?

[1] I'm really just using you as an example of a kind of person - please don't feel dobbed in; but if it interests you, that would be good. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 06:21, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Ok...I am watching. My free time is very patchy at present but we'll see how things unfold. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:32, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Cheers. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 10:08, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Cas. (I've posted this to Dennis's talk page too.) This is just a reminder that a few weeks have elapsed now, so it may be time to open the discussion with Pratyeka, if you're still up for it and are able. If you and Dennis are not, no worries. I'll take it to AN.

• Discussion on Pratyeka's talk page
• ANI discussion
• Arbitration request

  --Anthonyhcole (talk) 15:38, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

The King and I is at FAC

Hi, Casliber. A major musical comedy, The King and I, has been nominated for FAC. It would be great if you could take a look at the article and give comments at the FAC. Thanks for any time you could spare! -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:11, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Perseus

You may be interested in my comments on Talk:Perseus (constellation), about notability of a section. StringTheory11 (t • c) 00:16, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Note

Hello Casliber. This is to inform you that I've granted your Meta request to have your CU & OS tools removed. Best regards, MarcoAurelio (talk) 14:09, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Much appreciated. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:11, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for efforts in that space over time. — billinghurst sDrewth 15:49, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Grevillea shiressii

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:03, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Jan Howard DYK

The article was featured the day I didn't have internet access, go figure!!! Anyway, I am beyond thrilled that the article I created got to be featured in this section. Thank you so much! ChrisTofu11961 (talk) 05:31, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Aah well, just have to write some more then! cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:16, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Why Can't I Be You?

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Hot Hot Hot!!! (The Cure song)

Hi Cas, question for you at the nom. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:18, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Hey!

Hey Cas. Would you mind taking a bit of your time to check Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Homework (Daft Punk album)/archive1?I have solved all comments but I'm in urgent need of more reviewers. I'd be very grateful and willing to review anything in exchange if you take a look at my article :) Thanks! — ΛΧΣ²¹ 02:01, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Sigh...so much to do, so little time...will try to get a look at it soon. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:26, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Elephant again

Thanks form your help. Sandy has now struck her oppose. LittleJerry (talk) 20:39, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Had a bit too much fun with JSTOR this morning...

...and added a ton of history and non-Western stuff to CMi. Check it out and let me know if it's alright. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 00:40, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

wow, nice work! The islamic stuff really gives a good link between ancient and modern understanding. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:28, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Glad you like it! :) I have like 2 more book sources to scour still...it never ends! Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 04:19, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Hot Hot Hot!!! (The Cure song)

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

If you do say so yourself. Nudge nudge Monty Python style. Eh? eh? <ps, Dodds days are numbered on the internet. Its ok to dislike Simple minds, but he did so for "the wrong reasons", its clear to me.> Ceoil (talk) 01:15, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Réunion Ibis/archive1

Hi, I know you're at least peripherally aware of this, and I know it's within your interests. FunkMonk's facing a rather hostile review and, whether it's supporting, opposing or just commenting, I'm sure he would be very greatful for some constructive feedback if you (or any talk page stalkers) get a chance. Thanks, J Milburn (talk) 19:53, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I am aware of discussion on that page and was intending to once I got some other things done. I've had very little free time compared with usual this week. I am juggling some stuff but will try to take a look today. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:10, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Main page appearance: White-bellied Sea Eagle

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The White-bellied Sea Eagle is a large diurnal bird of prey in the family Accipitridae. A distinctive bird, adults have a white head, breast, under-wing coverts and tail. The upper parts are grey and the black under-wing flight feathers contrast with the white coverts. Like many raptors, the female is slightly larger than the male, and can measure up to 90 cm (36 in) long with a wingspan of up to 2.2 m (7 ft), and weigh 4.5 kg (10 lb). The call is a loud goose-like honking. Resident from India and Sri Lanka through southeast Asia to Australia on coasts and major waterways, the White-bellied Sea Eagle breeds and hunts near water, and fish form around half of its diet. Opportunistic, it consumes carrion and a wide variety of animals. Although rated of Least Concern globally, it has declined in parts of southeast Asia such as Thailand, and southeastern Australia. Human disturbance to its habitat is the main threat, both from direct human activity near nests which impacts on breeding success, and from removal of suitable trees for nesting. The White-bellied Sea Eagle is revered by indigenous people in many parts of Australia, and is the subject of various folk tales throughout its range. (Full article...)

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Template:Did you know nominations/Saraba, Itoshiki Kanashimitachi yo

Hi Casliber, your closing statement leaves me puzzled... what exactly was the result? --Pgallert (talk) 22:07, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

It was promoted - I moved it to a prep and it has since appeared on the mainpage (see User_talk:Moscowconnection#DYK_for_Saraba.2C_Itoshiki_Kanashimitachi_yo). Not sure...a formatting glitch of some description :/ Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:36, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Life in a Day (album)

 — Nyttend (talk) 16:02, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Chris Claremont photo

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DYK for Persoonia falcata

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DYK for Hakea gibbosa

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Talk:Lynn Hill/GA1

See responses! Thanks so much for the review - I really appreciate it! Wadewitz (talk) 20:14, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

One day late...

...But I got to everything that was urgent for me in Circinus and put it up for GAN. :) Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 20:43, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

great! Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:45, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

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Persoonia levis, commonly known as the broad-leaved geebung, is a shrub native to New South Wales and Victoria in eastern Australia. It was first collected by Luis Née in the vicinity of Port Jackson (Sydney) in April 1797. It reaches 5 m (16 ft) in height and has dark grey papery bark and bright green asymmetrical sickle-shaped leaves up to 14 cm (5.5 in) long and 8 cm (3.2 in) wide. The small yellow flowers appear in summer and autumn (December to April), followed by small green fleshy fruit known as drupes. The fruit is juicy but stringy when unripe, and the seeds and skin are inedible. Found in dry sclerophyll forest on sandstone-based nutrient-deficient soils, P. levis is adapted to a fire-prone environment; the plants resprout epicormic buds from beneath their thick bark after bushfires, and can live for over 60 years. Regeneration also takes place after fire by a ground-stored seed bank. The longtongue bee Leioproctus carinatifrons is a pollinator of the flowers, and the fruit are consumed by vertebrates such as kangaroos, possums and currawongs. Despite its horticultural appeal, P. levis is rare in cultivation as it is very hard to propagate, either by seed or cuttings. (Full article...)

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Canis Minor and Canis-Minorids

Hi Cas. Apologies for not responding to the message you left me a while ago, just never got time to get round to that (and I don't edit much in that area any more, though I may do again at some point). What brought me here was reading through Canis Minor. Not sure how many people worked on that, but it looks good (I do still think that there are slightly different ways to approach constellation articles, but it looks like there won't be many left at this rate...). :-) What I did notice was that there is a good solid educational paragraph at the end of the Canis Minor article on the Canis-Minorids meteor shower, but was rather disappointed to find that the article on the meteor shower is only a single line. How often do you think that sort of thing happens? That people working on 'overview' articles that summarise bits about an area (such as a constellation) end up writing more in the overview article about something (here a meteor shower), than what appears about that something in the 'main' (separate) article? It struck me as a bit strange that people searching for information about the Canis-Minorids meteor shower might end up at Canis-Minorids, see we only have a single line, and give up, not realising that an informative paragraph on the meteor shower exists in the constellation article? Is there a way to ensure that the excellent work done on FA articles like this spreads outwards to other articles where it is just as desperately needed? Though I suppose there is an argument that more people will read the constellation article and the Canis-Minorids paragraph, than will ever read the Canis-Minorids stub. What do you think? Carcharoth (talk) 02:15, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes +++++++++++ happens alot. Anyone else is welcome to copy the info and keep on expanding (the meteor shower has the potential to be larger than the parent article) Also, some largish target articles are missing large fields of information - e.g. all soils have natural drainage yet our drainage article has nothing only artificial drainage. Sasata could enlighten you with many examples too....Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:00, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

I copied it across. See my edit summary there for the attribution. I also left a note on the constellation talk page so you and current and future editors of that page are aware of this. No interest in editing anything about soil drainage, I'm afraid. :-) I did once think about starting an article on a soil scientist, but a few months later someone else started the article (Curtis F. Marbut). That happens quite a lot. It is interesting to make lists (off-wiki) of potential articles and see how some get created and some don't. Carcharoth (talk) 23:48, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

WP:NBA at WP:FAC

I see that you were once active at WP:FAC for WP:NBA. Of the 6 NBA WP:FAs, you reviewed 2 of them (Tim Duncan and Toronto Raptors). No NBA FAC has passed since Magic Johnson did on 2009-04-19. Recently, I have been frustrated by almost no comments on my FAC nominations of Juwan Howard. I was wondering if you might be willing to participate in the review for Howard if I renominated him in a couple of months.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:43, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

ok. I'll keep an eye out. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:45, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Cas

Are you going anywhere near Hakea at all in the forseeable future? the main page is s---. I think it needs your magical touch :) - cheers sats 14:45, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

O-kay....colour me confused.......Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:41, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

oops - the main page for Hakea spp - one really great thing is when you do specific species - the problem is the main page - as an introduction to the species - is rats... - sorry for the confusion sats 15:42, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Aah, ok. There are some developments which may mean a radical overhaul of that page and Grevillea and Finschia....soon....Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:00, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Excellent!! in that case - as main species pages sometimes can lose out to the better sub sp pages - well hope it happens! thanks for responding sats 12:03, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Isopogon anethifolius

Great to see you working on Isopogon anethifolius, it's a personal favourite of mine amongst the Sydney wildflowers. Do you have a specific goal for the article? I may be able to lend a hand occasionally, so let me know if you need eyeballs across it (or help etc.) I can probably also dig out more pics if there's something specific you need. --99of9 (talk) 03:15, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Right now, it's just to get it to a 5x expansion. Material is fairly slim, so might be a tough one for GA/FA but we'll see....Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:52, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. I've chucked a couple of dot points in, but I agree that material seems sparse. --99of9 (talk) 12:36, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Isopogon anemonifolius has been more studied. Still we have a 5x expansion now...Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:04, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

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FAC

Hello sir, we would like your suggestions on the fac. Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Priyanka Chopra/archive1. Please , review it and represent your thoughts. Thank You.Prashant  ✉  18:41, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Sparkle in the Rain

 — Nyttend (talk) 08:02, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Re: DYK nomination of St. Dominic's Church (Macau)

According to javascript:importScript('User:Dr pda/prosesize.js'); getDocumentSize(); (the final say on character count), I've expanded the above article from 508 characters to 2,611. According to the eligibility criteria section 1b, the 5× expansion is based on number of characters, not words. —Bloom6132 (talk) 11:20, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

ok no probs. Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:41, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the review. And no worries; the character/word count mixup is so common, even I find myself doing it occasionally. Cheers! —Bloom6132 (talk) 07:58, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Canis Minor

Nice work on the lead. I like it! :) Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 21:07, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

State of play is this - Sadalsuud (talk · contribs) has reemerged and is taking time to digest where things are up to on Betelgeuse - given he added huge amounts of content I figured it was good to let him get up to speed before pushing on. I looked how small CMi was and figured it's an easy 5x expansion - good to show what core articles can still end up at DYK. My star sourcing ain't as up to speed as my biology though so am still rough round the edges....Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:44, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

If you need anything give me a poke, I have about 15 constellation-related books sitting on my desk for Andromeda and Aries and could set you up with something. I'll also definitely give a comprehensive review of Betelgeuse at FAC, you guys have done a great job with it. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 21:57, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Gotta run now, but some basic stuff for CMi would be a help - refs for when it rises/sets/polygon stuff etc....I haven't got much current on that, just the stars.Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:05, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Sure, Patrick Moore's "Data Book of Astronomy" is excellent for, well, data. SIMBAD is great for finding scientific papers on stars to make things seem less crufty. The polygon stuff is available here in a .txt file, which is kind of hard to parse at first. I've got more sources sitting around, let me know if you want more names or data - I do have an excellent text called "Islamicate Celestial Globes" that I could scan for you if that helps. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 22:39, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

(Grunt, groan) gawd, getting info on Canis Minor is tough! I thought it'd be an easy 5x expansion but am struggling.....any constellation info that can be added would be a great help. I think I need about another 180 words or so....Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:44, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, it's difficult. Let me see what I can do... *digs through giant book pile* Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 08:16, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

OK, here's what I found. You could definitely expand the mythology section a lot more. Ian Ridpath's Star Tales is excellent, it's located here. That's especially useful for the Chinese mythology. I've also found a few papers on more ancient mythology (e.g. Mesopotamia, etc.) Try [2], [3], and [4]. As for books, I'd also recommend the Cambridge Guide to the Constellations, as well as Julius Staal's "New Patterns in the Sky" and William Tyler Olcott's "Star Lore". If you need to expand the History section further, give some background on the various star atlases and some uranography stuff. I'm willing to help write/source if you need it, just drop me a note! I've got a lot of free time this weekend and week. :) Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 08:24, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Star coming --Gerda Arendt (talk) 02:43, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Core contest

Hey. do you know if it's confirmed that there will be another contest in February? I have a couple article possibilities if so but would want to double-check both the dates and if the articles are "core" enough. Wizardman 02:43, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Dang! Is that the time?! Hmmm, will let you know when we run the Core Contest again. Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:41, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Permission to steal from you

Casliber, I like the format of your user page. I've been thinking of bringing my page up a couple of notches and I'm wondering if I may have your permission to copy much of your code. I've already played with it a little at User:SchreiberBike/Workspace/Scratchpad#Massive format change. Thank you. SchreiberBike (talk) 06:40, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Sure, go for it. Someone nice designed my page for me in the first place....Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:32, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

The Day The Music Died

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Damn - it's late here and I have to be up early...off to get some shut-eye...back later. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:46, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Have a goofd night sleep, we'll keep it goin'.--GDuwenTell me! 15:22, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Right! Back with a coffee....Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:49, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Isopogon anethifolius

Orlady (talk) 16:02, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Review of Chaim Koppelman

Thank you for reviewing this article. I can clarify how Aesthetic Realism influenced Chaim Koppelman's artistic development. Will add my suggestion tomorrow on the article's Talk page. Thanks again.Trouver (talk) 21:38, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Your last comment overlapped with an additional quote from Koppelman's book. Can you let me know if I should include this too, or is it too much? Thanks.Trouver (talk) 22:59, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Put it in and then I'll read it through again. I think it would be better with it in...but will digest and if it is too repetitive we can discuss then (and trim if needed). Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:03, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Struggling with format issues & constant interruptions. It is interesting this way. See what you think. Thanks for your help.Trouver (talk) 17:17, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING!Trouver (talk) 23:54, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Main page appearance: Amanita muscaria

This is a note to let the main editors of Amanita muscaria know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on March 13, 2013. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/March 13, 2013. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director Raul654 (talk · contribs) or his delegates Dabomb87 (talk · contribs), Gimmetoo (talk · contribs), and Bencherlite (talk · contribs), or start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you can change it—following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. The blurb as it stands now is below:

Amanita muscaria, commonly known as the fly agaric, is a poisonous and psychoactive basidiomycete fungus, one of many in the genus Amanita. Native throughout the temperate and boreal regions of the Northern Hemisphere, Amanita muscaria has been unintentionally introduced to many countries in the southern hemisphere, generally as a symbiont with pine plantations, and is now a true cosmopolitan species. The quintessential toadstool, it is a large white-gilled, white-spotted, usually deep red mushroom, one of the most recognizable and widely encountered in popular culture. Although it is generally considered poisonous, deaths from its consumption are extremely rare, and it is eaten as a food in parts of Europe, Asia, and North America after parboiling. Amanita muscaria is noted for its hallucinogenic properties, with its main psychoactive constituent being the compound muscimol. It was used as an intoxicant and entheogen by the peoples of Siberia and has a religious significance in these cultures. There has been much speculation on traditional use of this mushroom as an intoxicant in places other than Siberia; however, such traditions are far less well documented. (Full article...)

UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

FAC

A recently started FAC on Death of Jimi Hendrix is under way. If you have some time, you might find it interesting. I think that the medical information is not complex, but almost everything else is. Anyway, make up your own mind. Snowman (talk) 21:12, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

I've just picked up a few GANs to nominate and am waiting for replies - so will look soon - free time on weekend is unpredictable. Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:10, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Racket-tailed Coquette

Hi, I was just letting you know that I'm interested in expanding Racket-tailed Coquette (which is listed as a "potential DYK" in your to-do list) for DYK. If you want to colloborate on it or something, just let me know. HueSatLum 23:10, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Okay, let's expand it. The target is 250 words of prose....Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:44, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

It's expanded enough; are you ready to nominate? (For the hook, I was thinking about something about it being monotypic.) HueSatLum 00:06, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

I meant to this morning - but have had zero time. I was thinking about half its length being tail. No matter....either of us can...hang on....Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:04, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Men who should know better listening to angry music

Best use of the word "asshole" 5 times in a song that contains 5 words only [5]. Beat that, Mother Fecker. Ceoil (talk) 13:34, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

I was just thinking that would link to this but that has other words so that was a dumb-ass assumption now wasn't it....Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:51, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Review open

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Juwan Howard/archive5 now open.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:02, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Comments needed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:06, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

(sigh) I saw that...hitting some turbulence. I'll take a look soon, but am not familiar with the subject matter so not be able to opine about some issues...Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:24, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

FAC request

Hi Casliber, wanted to let you know that I've re-submitted Sesame Street research for yet another FAC. [6] Thought you'd be interested, since you reviewed its first FAC. I thought that both FACs failed due to lack of support, and it's kind of a strange article, so I'd appreciate your assistance. Thanks. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 18:33, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the support. What a good sport you are! I see that we're in the same pool in the Wikicup, which scares the heck out of me! :) Good luck. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 15:49, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

DOJH

Thanks for your support. Does this edit resolve your concern about the paragraph? GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 03:47, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Yeah that is a step in the right direction. Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:09, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

The only two details in the graph that are in dispute are whether she made tuna for Jimi (though really the only dispute is whether Hendrix wanted tuna) and whether she bought cigs before calling for an ambulance. I was concerned that the inconsistencies section was getting too long, so I didn't want to go into too much detail about the cigs there, since she never said she didn't get them, she just didn't tell the police that right off. Any thoughts? GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 04:30, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Seven (special Birthday recap)

A celebratory cupcake from the Teahouse Birthday Badge

It's been a full year since the Teahouse opened, and as we're reflecting on what's been accomplished, we wanted to celebrate with you.

Teahouse guests and hosts are sharing their stories in a new blog post about the project.

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Metric	Control group	Teahouse group	Contrast
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Average number of articles edited	58.7 articles	116.9 edits	2.0x articles edited
Average talk page edits	36.5 edits	85.6 edits	2.4x talk page edits
Average article space edits	129.6 edits	360.4 edits	2.8x article edits
Average total edits (all namespaces)	182.1 edits	532.4 edits	2.9x total edits

Over the past year almost 2000 questions have been asked and answered, 669 editors have introduced themselves, 1670 guests have been served, 867 experienced Wikipedians have participated in the project, and 137 have served as hosts. Read more project analysis in our CSCW 2013 paper

Last month January was our most active month so far! 78 profiles were created, 46 active hosts answered 263 questions, and 11 new hosts joined the project.

Come by the Teahouse to share a cup of tea and enjoy a Birthday Cupcake! Happy Birthday to the Teahouse and thank you for a year's worth of interest and support :-)

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Volubilis GA review update

Just letting you know that I've now resolved all the issues that you raised in the Volubilis GA review. Was there anything else that you think needs to be done? Prioryman (talk) 22:35, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your help with this GA review! Out of interest, what was the issue with the layout of images that you thought might come up at FAC? Prioryman (talk) 08:26, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Generally galleries are frowned upon...that's all. Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:37, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

I've been using them in FAs for years and nobody's ever objected - hopefully that won't change! Prioryman (talk) 09:58, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

They gave me a lot of stick for the galleries in Camouflage, had to remove them all double-quick. (not exactly a talk page stalker) Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:15, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Racket-tailed Coquette

Materialscientist (talk) 08:02, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 February newsletter

Round 1 is now over. The top 64 scorers have progressed to round 2, where they have been randomly split into eight pools of eight. At the end of April, the top two from each pool, as well as the 16 highest scorers from those remaining, will progress to round 3. Commiserations to those eliminated; if you're interested in still being involved in the WikiCup, able and willing reviewers will always be needed, and if you're interested in getting involved with other collaborative projects, take a look at the WikiWomen's Month discussed below.

Round 1 saw 21 competitors with over 100 points, which is fantastic; that suggests that this year's competition is going to be highly competative. Our lower scores indicate this, too: A score of 19 was required to reach round 2, which was significantly higher than the 11 points required in 2012 and 8 points required in 2011. The score needed to reach round 3 will be higher, and may depend on pool groupings. In 2011, 41 points secured a round 3 place, while in 2012, 65 was needed. Our top three scorers in round 1 were:

1. Sturmvogel_66 (submissions), primarily for an array of warship GAs.
2. Miyagawa (submissions), primarily for an array of did you knows and good articles, some of which were awarded bonus points.
3. Casliber (submissions), due in no small part to Canis Minor, a featured article awarded a total of 340 points. A joint submission with Keilana (submissions), this is the highest scoring single article yet submitted in this year's competition.

Other contributors of note include:

• Sven Manguard (submissions), whose Portal:Massachusetts is the first featured portal this year. The featured portal process is one of the less well-known featured processes, and featured portals have traditionally had little impact on WikiCup scores.
• Sasata (submissions), whose Mycena aurantiomarginata was the first featured article this year.
• Muboshgu (submissions) and Wizardman (submissions), who both claimed points for articles in the Major League Baseball tie-breakers topic, the first topic points in the competition.
• Toa Nidhiki05 (submissions), who claimed for the first full good topic with the Casting Crowns studio albums topic.

Featured topics have still played no part in this year's competition, but once again, a curious contribution has been offered by The C of E (submissions): did you know that there is a Shit Brook in Shropshire? With April Fools' Day during the next round, there will probably be a good chance of more unusual articles...

March sees the WikiWomen's History Month, a series of collaborative efforts to aid the women's history WikiProject to coincide with Women's History Month and International Women's Day. A number of WikiCup participants have already started to take part. The project has a to-do list of articles needing work on the topic of women's history. Those interested in helping out with the project can find articles in need of attention there, or, alternatively, add articles to the list. Those interested in collaborating on articles on women's history are also welcome to use the WikiCup talk page to find others willing to lend a helping hand. Another collaboration currently running is an an effort from WikiCup participants to coordinate a number of Easter-themed did you know articles. Contributions are welcome!

A few final administrative issues. From now on, submission pages will need only a link to the article and a link to the nomination page, or, in the case of good article reviews, a link to the review only. See your submissions' page for details. This will hopefully make updating submission pages a little less tedious. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) J Milburn (talk) 11:31, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Cyttaria gunnii

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:03, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Procellariiformes GA - need help with refs

Hi Casliber,

I saw that Procellariiformes was up for GA... but that nom had vanished. I've foolishly offered to help, and have managed to fill in some of the gaps, but there remain some refs which need a bit more knowledge, specially the overview of bird palaeontology (ahem). I saw you'd been involved a while back. Do you know some editors who could lend a hand? I think the article is very nearly at GA quality so it's just one final push really. Any help or advice greatly appreciated. - Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:05, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Funny you should ask...an expert in the area has just resurfaced after a years' absence....Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:37, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll take a look. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:15, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Amanita ochrophylla

Gatoclass 00:03, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Your good deeds are well-known, friend.

Happy Saint Casimir's Day! :) ~ Riana ⁂ 07:51, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Yerp - I was going to Facebook that one...but I forgot.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:52, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Hassium

I expanded this from C to GA last year and want to get it to FA. Could you give some comments? Double sharp (talk) 15:13, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Maybe list it at Peer Review to compartmentalise the feedback. It will possibly get some driveby feedback from people not familiar with chemistry which might give some tips on accessibility. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:39, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Thank you for supporting Batman: Arkham City and helping make it a Featured Article! Darkwarriorblake (talk) 23:10, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

No worries - I'll keep an eye out for Prometheus too. Hate leaving things unfinished.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:36, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Boletus badius

I reviewed your DYK for Boletus badius, and while I thought it was fine for DYK, I thought the second paragraph of the lead could use some reworking. The first sentence isn't really clear to me...reading it, I'm left with the impression that the choice of Boletus over Xerocomus is an editorial decision which just happens to be supported by "some authors". (Ever after reading the taxonomy section I'm not sure why breaking up Xerocomus puts this species back in Boletus.) The second sentence is missing something too" "numbers can be prolific" doesn't make sense to me/ Guettarda (talk) 04:14, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

The consensus of mycobank and index fungorum is to put it in Boletus rather than Xerocomus - it puts it back in boletus only because the last author to review it has done so - see this paper and no one has proposed reusing one of the other binomial names. It is an interesting question and I'll see what turns up. Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:22, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Boletus badius

The DYK project (nominate) 08:53, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For all your good work on article improvement. MarchOrDie (talk) 00:31, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

The big one...

Hey, so I know we were kicking around the idea of doing Orion (constellation) at some point; I think I've got an outline given the others and the mythology I've started to collect. Want to see what I've got and hash something out? Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 22:54, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Hell yeah, sounds good. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:16, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Check out User:Keilana/Orion. I've got sources for all of the mythologies listed; I think each of those sections will be a substantial paragraph. Let me know what you think. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 00:25, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Cool - start unloading info into the mythology then (that was my biggest worry re comprehensiveness and getting right - the stars are the fun bit!) - the article is pretty small and can be doubled or almost tripled before we need get worried re size. Still musing on layout of stars.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:02, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Do you want to draft in userspace and then move it? We could probably get a DYK out of it, that would be a hoot. I'm not wedded to the organization of the stars that I set up, what are you thinking about it? I'll start with the Western section and the usual suspects sometime in the next couple days. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 01:49, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm in on this! I'll work on the stars section, then the deep-sky objects section. StringTheory11 (t • c) 03:41, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Cool, there's a TON to fill in. Glad to have you on board! (I also have some stuff for Perseus that I'll stick in soon, fwiw. Haven't forgotten!) This is gonna be a huge effort. (On a semi-related topic, Cas and ST, do you guys want to take Circinus through FAC nowish? I don't have any open noms.) Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 04:31, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) DYK? I can't see it being a 5x expansion :P ...unless you want a daughter article...hmmm....I am not fussed. I had been thinking DYK not feasible, in which case just loading into mainspace was fine.....yeah go for thy life StringTheory11...I'll join ya soon....hehehe Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:59, 15 March 2013 (UTC) Re FAC - sure...my only worry is these constellation ones have been a little trickier as the prose can be a challenge to get right. I have one sole and one shared open nom so to be fair I'd best ask the Powers That Be about co-nomming a third article...but that should be ok I think as the others have some supports each....Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:59, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps a "History of Orion" would be a suitable daughter. Something like that...we can worry about that later. Do you want to ask your delegate of choice about another co-nom while I check it over? It can wait as long as you need it to. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 05:02, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

If you can spare a few moments

Hi Casliber, I have recently written an article on Progeroid syndromes and would like to get it to a good article status. I have submitted it for peer review. If you can spare a moment, I would greatly appreciate your input in this. Thank you very much for your attention. Kinkreet^{~♥moshi moshi♥~} 03:03, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Circinus FAC

Hey Cas, I just gave Circinus a once-over (fixed a couple issues and added images) and I think it'd be okay for FAC. I know you've got two noms running, but when one of them passes would you be ready/willing to nominate? Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 15:49, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Yep. Should be any time now as both noms looking good with support etc. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:02, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Boletus torosus

Might as well make this one a GA as well... there's good coverage of it in Alessio's 1985 Boletus book, but it's in Italian and will take me a while to type it up and feed it through Google Translate. Also doi:10.1016/S0269-915X(97)80092-4 has some info on it and similar species; this publication considers Boletus xanthocyaneus a distinct species (unlike Alessio). Will try to expand and work this out on the weekend. Sasata (talk) 21:21, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Oh good - I found this hard to find info on. Agree. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:26, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

PS: I started Boletus barragensis too, which is the name for a mushroom which closely resembles B. luridus but grows under eucalypts and has large spores. Cheryl Grgurinovic described it in the Larger fungi..book from 1997, which I don't have yet. The Watson/Li 1999 bolete book I have has some material but alludes to that as the most detailed. The watson/Li book also has some other material on European species or their analogues in Oz I have to add. I've just written to Roy Watling again about some other photos I've taken too. He was quite chatty on email :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:41, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Tylopilus felleus

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

George Harrison

Hi, Casliber! Gabe and I have made a few more revisions to the George Harrison article since you commented at the FAC, and I wonder if you wouldn't mind giving it another look when you get the chance? Thanks! Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 10:37, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Tricholoma ustale

DYK ... that when force-fed to mice, the toxin ustalic acid, isolated from the mushroom Tricholoma ustale, makes them crouch—hesitant to move—before it kills them? Sasata (talk) 00:08, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

I like it. Just working on something else...my daughter is studying flora of north korea and I found there was no artlce....and information is actually quite tricky to come by....Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:12, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Do you have/want this (not specific to N. Korea)? doi:10.1007/3-540-27998-9_15

I can get that if it's in Springer via my uni I think. There is quite a bit once one starts looking, just a little oblique at first glance. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:26, 24 March 2013 (UTC

Common Starling

Hi Cas, I was wondering if you had any further queries at the Common Starling FAC, it all seems to have gone a bit quiet there, cheers, Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:26, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, forgot about that one. Will revisit soon. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:39, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

WP:FOUR for Persoonia linearis

		Four Award
		Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on Persoonia linearis. TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:30, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:30, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Core Contest question

Hey Cas, I was wondering if constellation would be eligible for the Core Contest (I would go with Orion but you're kinda involved on that one so....) It's in pretty bad shape (maybe C-class at *best*) and I've been pondering a crack at it. It's not on either of the lists but it's an article on 103 Wikipedias and gets about 100,000 views per month. If it's not eligible, I'll go wander off and find some other sciencey goodness to work on. Thanks! (btw, thanks for taking care of those comments on the FAC, I'll be around again after tonight's exam/paper hell is over.) Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 22:20, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Any article is eligible, it's just that the more core-y the better. It sounds like a good choice.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:51, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Buckinghamia celsissima

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:02, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Precious again

wildflowers and birds

Thank you for the rare wild life you cover, making this project more beautiful and showing that protection of precious lfe is needed. You won my heart placing daisies on the Main page, - my favourite flowers! Did you know that the section of treasured entries on my talk is titled Flowers? Did you know that several birds were recently translated to Swedish, including the Blue-winged Pitta and the last finch? - Repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (15 December 2008, 30 April 2009, 19 February 2012)!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:12, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 75th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style. You were the first (but not only) one to receive it a fourth time, - well deserved! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:48, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Minor correction: Blue-winged Pitta has not been translated to Swedish. The linked Swedish article has not been touched by human fingertips. It is generated purely by robot programs that gather information from a few data bases. --Ettrig (talk) 09:50, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

How would you call that then? It's still a translation, to my understanding, making knowledge more available.

ps: The translation triggered the timing of the award but wasn't its reason. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:08, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Peer review

Hi. I have requested peer review of Robert Hooke (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), I wonder if this subject might interest you. I would like to start pushing the article towards FA, Hooke is, for me, one of the most interesting figures in the history of science. Guy (Help!) 20:22, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Sure. I'll take a look. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:56, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Boletus torosus

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:02, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Tylopilus felleus review

I've begun a review for Tylopilus felleus and have a quick question for you on the review page. Thanks for your contributions to this very fine article. -- Khazar2 (talk) 12:02, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the praise! ...I'll take a look.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:11, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Good Article Barnstar
		For your contributions to bring Tylopilus felleus to Good Article status. Thanks, and keep up the good work! -- Khazar2 (talk) 15:36, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

thanks! Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:32, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Clarity about the Core Contest and WP:VA/E

Does the Core Contest apply to just Wikipedia:Vital articles, or to Wikipedia:Vital articles/Expanded as well. If it does include VA/E, any chance you could explicitly say so? The people who are active at WP:VA/E want more eyeballs at the project pbp 00:22, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

The Rules allow for consideration of any reasonably broad article really, so arguing for any expanded vital articles is ok Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:21, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Harrison

I've added some detail, but now we are at 55 kB and 9,300 words, so while I would be happy to add more, at some point I think I will be spending time adding material that others will later ask me to remove. I'm having trouble picking-out the "good points" from all the personal attacks and condescension in JG66's review. I can deal with the specific bullett points, but I find his long rants a bit overwhelming. Can you please offer some advice on how to deal with JG66's walls of text? "Picean nature", really. I think demanding so much personal, astrological, quasi-religious material is inapporpriate, and I've never had to go into deep detail about a subject's religious beliefs. Can't the readers just look at Hinduism? GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:46, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Harrison had alot more religiosity than John or Paul AFAICT. Back soon. Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:04, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree in general, but there is already an entire section in the article on his religious beliefs, neither John nor Paul's articles have one. Also, I was speaking more about JG66's request for detail regarding the "dualism of Harrison's Picean nature", which is 1) astrological psuedo-science, and not encyclopedic content, and 2) really a good versus evil thing relating to ethics, which I have never before seen required at FAC. E.g., Messiah (Handel) was recently on the front page, yet nowhere in the article does it mention that Handel was not religious, and that he did not believe Christ was his risen messiah. Any thoughts? GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 20:02, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Aaah ok, yes that is too much detail. Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:27, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Have you seen my re-working of Living in the Material World to George Harrison: 1973–79? I think I'm really starting to flesh-out, "Harrison the man" in the article. If you have the time, can you please point me to any other specific sub-sections that you think could use a similar re-work? Thanks again for your valued insights, I really appreciate your help getting this article "over the hump". GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:34, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Ping. GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:04, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks for your recent comments. I made a few moves, but I'm not sure if I misunderstood you, as moving the last 4 years of his life into personal life would break the chronology, not perfect it. I assumed you meant to move HMFs to persoanl life, not his cancer and death. Did I misunderstand you? Thanks again. GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 03:30, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks for your helpful comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/George Harrison/archive2. I've recently made a series of edits to the article that I feel have helped flesh-out "Harrison the man". If you can find the time, Evan and I would greatly appreciate it if you took another look. GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 23:06, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

• Is there anything in particular holding-up your support that I could address? GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 23:21, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

I am supporting - look at the beginning of my section. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:15, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Wonderful! Thanks and sorry, I must have missed that. Cheers! GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 03:20, 9 April 2013 (UTC)