Talk:Elfen Lied

Elfen Lied was one of the Language and literature good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
March 14, 2007	Good article nominee	Listed
June 10, 2008	Good article reassessment	Delisted

Current status: Delisted good article

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Too Many Genres

Maybe it's just me, but 6 genres seems excessive. Couldn't we simplify things to just 3? Biopunk falls under science fantasy, psychological and horror could be combined to be psychological horror and tragedy is an implied element of horror. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.186.136 (talk) 21:06, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Extreme amount of overcategorization

I've removed 21 different "X in fiction" categories on the bases of overcategorization. Having that many categories is extreme and I very much doubt that most of them are defining characteristics of the work, but instead an attempt to throw anything and everything that may possibly "stick". A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently define the subject as having. Generally, these characteristics should be supported in the text of the article as part of a reception or critical analyst section. —Farix (t | c) 21:09, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Theme Song Lilium

The Theme Song Lilium is an amalgamation of biblical passages and various Christian sources.

The following quotation is from the Vulgate, Psalms 36:30:

"Os iusti meditabitur sapientiam,

Et lingua eius loquetur iudicium."

meaning "The mouth of the just shall meditate wisdom: and his tongue shall speak judgment." (Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition).

The following quotation is also from the Vulgate, Epistle of James 1:12:

"Beatus vir qui suffert tentationem,

Quoniam cum probatus fuerit accipiet coronam vitae."

meaning "Blessed is the man that endureth temptation; for when he hath been proved, he shall receive a crown of life." (Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition).

The following quotation also appears in the Theatrum Chemicum, an alchemical mass written by Nicholas Melchior (the original source is probably much earlier):

"Kyrie, fons bonitatis.

Kyrie, ignis divine, eleison."

meaning "Lord, fount of goodness, have mercy. Lord, divine fire, have mercy." (my translation).

The following quotation also appears in Ave mundi spes Maria (again, the original source is probably much earlier):

O quam sancta, quam serena,

Quam benigna, quam amoena esse Virgo creditur.

O castitatis lilium.

meaning "Oh how holy, how serene, how bounteous, how delightful the Virgin is believed to be. Oh lily of chastity/purity." (my translation).

Quotations from ancient religious texts are of encyclopedic relevance for two reasons: because those religious texts are of encyclopedic relevance and because the quotations help interpret the cultural references of the anime.

Perhaps those quotations - all free from copyright - might be added to the article?

Ignisāra (talk) 00:38, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

“Diclonii” vs “Diclonius”

Any reason why “Diclonii” is used for the plural of “Diclonius” in the article? The Japanese anime says “Diclonius”; even if the word was meant to evoke latin, shouldn’t it be treated the same way as, say, Tyrannosaurus? palpalpalpal (talk) 12:57, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's simply because the manga uses it, and the OVA uses it later to follow suit. However in typical English grammar, Diclonius can be used as plural and singular by context as pretty much all Japanese words would. I think this largely came from Lynn Okamoto's lack of familiarity with Latin and Greek names and the scientific naming conventions. You would be mostly correct and I would argue still correct by using Diclonius as plural. Franbunnyffxii (talk) 04:45, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OVA as an episode?

Should the OVA be counted as an episode in the infobox? Why? -Daveout(talk) 00:37, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the OVA is not optional to the story, and it explains 2 major plot devices. Fans of the anime consider it absolutely essential and it's included on every DVD collection as standard. Franbunnyffxii (talk) 04:45, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]