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Since you are the protecting admin, do you want to decide about placing the merger templates? There is a request at [[Talk:Turkish Croatia#Protected edit request on 4 September 2019]]. I was going to ask the proponent if they could find anyone else to back a merger, but you should do whatever you prefer. From the history of the article, I see that the same merge was proposed before but [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Turkish_Croatia&diff=723863123&oldid=702858895 it expired without action being taken]. It appears that the existence of a thing called [[Turkish Croatia]] is not believed in by everyone, so it might be a nationalist trope. But the History section of the article has a lot more references than in June, 2016 so maybe progress has occurred. Thanks, [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 02:53, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
Since you are the protecting admin, do you want to decide about placing the merger templates? There is a request at [[Talk:Turkish Croatia#Protected edit request on 4 September 2019]]. I was going to ask the proponent if they could find anyone else to back a merger, but you should do whatever you prefer. From the history of the article, I see that the same merge was proposed before but [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Turkish_Croatia&diff=723863123&oldid=702858895 it expired without action being taken]. It appears that the existence of a thing called [[Turkish Croatia]] is not believed in by everyone, so it might be a nationalist trope. But the History section of the article has a lot more references than in June, 2016 so maybe progress has occurred. Thanks, [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 02:53, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
:Have done that, cheers. [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]] ([[User_talk:Peacemaker67|click to talk to me]]) 02:00, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
:Have done that, cheers. [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]] ([[User_talk:Peacemaker67|click to talk to me]]) 02:00, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
::My apology to {{ping|Peacemaker67}} for using his TP, but I am compelled to clarify on situation and circumstances, and in response to {{ping|EdJohnston}}, since this issue, as it seem, won't go away easily - as behavior of two involved, now possibly three, self-identified Croatian editors, can be illustrated by following attempt to re-group and organize a [[WP:TAGTEAM]], with editor Ceha alerting editor Silverije to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Silverije&diff=prev&oldid=913840632 "take an eye onto discussion" at User_talk:Peacemaker67#Turkish_Croatia], one in which Ceha was quite assertive and demanding; then editor Silverije alerting editor Shokatz, another Croatian POV pusher, with whom I had problems in previous encounter on directly related subject(s) with EdJohnson himself being familiarized and involved (problems characterized with discussion at EdJohnston TP in which I was openly degraded by Shokatz who called me a troll, an idiot, among other things), emphatically [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Shokatz&diff=prev&oldid=914314422 asking editor Shokatz if they can send him (Silverje) an email]. First, allow me to redress EdJohnston find about previous merger from 2016 (one Ed linked) - that was actually second attempt (by some editor) to merge article, because the first merger, one which was executed, was done between 23 June and 29 June 2010, with administrator Joy being forced to revert several of Silverije's redirect deletion and page recreation, and repel him with a "vandalism" warning; but Silverije then waited for nearly 3 years to proceed with his plan to recreate this nationalist claptrap, or as Ed properly remarked, nationalist trope. Now, the current, protected revision is the only version of this article that is actually possible to confirm in sources, which I did, using some in placed references, however, it still needs to be merged into the [[Bosnian Krajina]], since the topic of even this protected referenced still fails to warrant standalone article per [[WP:NOTA]], being also [[WP:CFORK]] ([[WP:POVFORK]], [[WP:COATRACK]]) of no less than four articles dealing with the same subject from various angles: [[Military Frontier]], [[Croatian Military Frontier]], Bosanska Krajina and [[Donji Kraji]] (and to the extent in few more). Meanwhile topic is being explicitly bound to the history of Bosanska Krajina region. It's a version these three Croatian editors (and some IP, at times) are minded to remove from wikipedia at price of being involved in prolonged edit-wars, meatpuppetry, and complete disregard for behavioral and/or edit policies and guidelines. Revision that aforementioned editors prefer, as written in manner of geographical and historiographical account but from evident [[Historical revisionism|historical revisionist]] POV, and used in persistent reverts, is blatant fork under the most obscure geo-political term for a title, where they can vent [[WP:NAT]] and [[WP: SYSTEMIC]] bias without being exposed to wider community scrutiny.--[[User:Santasa99|<span style="color:maroon; text-shadow:#666362 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">'''౪ Santa ౪'''</span>]][[User talk:Santasa99|<span style="color:navy; text-shadow:#666362 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><sup>'''''99°'''''</sup></span>]] 15:32, 7 September 2019 (UTC)


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Revision as of 15:33, 7 September 2019

G'day. If you have got something to say, pull up a pew and say it (but please be civil).


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2/10th Battalion (Australia)

G'day, PM, building on your work on the 10th Battalion (Australia), I wonder if you would be keen to work on 2/10th Battalion (Australia)? It is currently rated GA, but if you are keen to get involved, we could probably take it to ACR. Thoughts? AustralianRupert (talk) 11:16, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'd need to secure a copy of Purple and Blue first, but I'm definitely interested. I'll order it, take a run through and let you know. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:10, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, thanks. I have a copy on loan for another four or five weeks. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 11:10, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks, --K.e.coffman (talk) 14:43, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kingdom of Bulgaria

Hi Peacemaker67. An IP editor made two unexplained edits [1][2]. I reverted the former but not the latter as I am not sure whether they were good changes. Can you take a look when time permits? Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 13:10, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

G'day Ktrimi991, this has been discussed at length on the invasion talk page. Bulgaria did not invade Yugoslavia, German forces invaded from Bulgaria. There is even a note in the infobox telling editors not to add Bulgaria, but they still do. It is an ongoing thing. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:16, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Peacemaker67. Much appreciated. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 11:43, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open

Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:38, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Ba Congress

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Ba Congress you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Kges1901 -- Kges1901 (talk) 13:22, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator

How do I nominate someone for milhist project coordinator? Векочел (talk) 15:44, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

G'day Векочел, what you should do is encourage them to self-nominate, because they need to answer a couple of questions. The instructions for nominating are on the election page. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:13, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi thanks for your rating of the above article, I really enjoyed researching and writing it especially the part about the post war reconciliation. I wondered if you could advise me what would be missing to get to A class, I just added what I think is a couple of relevant images. Cheers Dom from Paris (talk) 19:20, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, Dom from Paris. I particularly liked that aspect of the article too. I'll take a look in the next few days and make a few suggestions, but I suggest putting it through GAN first before going for Milhist ACR. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:46, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TFA

Thank you today for Lawrence Weathers, "an Australian soldier who was awarded the Victoria Cross during World War I, although he was killed near the end of the war and before learning he was to receive it. When he returned to his mates after the actions that earned him the VC, his uniform was covered in mud, he had blood running down his face, and had five days' stubble on his chin. He was also festooned "like a Christmas tree" with souvenired German binoculars and pistols. He, assisted by a few others had captured 180 Germans and three machine guns."! -- I have a peer review open, on the music we sang in the best concert I remember to have done, - it was also a turning point in a great composre's career, and a milestone in music history, 400 years old and still avantgarde. That needs to come out better in the aricle, - help wanted. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:07, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again Gerda! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:40, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Turkish Croatia

Hi. You protected the version of the page which was changed in 3:06 am.
Version you protected is nationalistic POV with conspiracy theories. You can see discusion here (section on Turkish Croatia) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oshwah&oldid=910866194
I copied it here also; https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ATurkish_Croatia&type=revision&diff=913674560&oldid=913323564
Could you please protect the previous version, that one which majority of users suggested, the one without conspiracy theories?
Thnx in advance.
In every other wiki;
https://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turska_Hrvatska
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%BCrkisches_Kroatien
its the version withouth conspiracy theories....
--Čeha (razgovor) 14:47, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss it on the talk page, and come to a consensus there. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:24, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Again, we have one user with nationalistic POV, which changed page in 3:06 am, and you protected his version few hours later. Can you read discussion? Do you think there should be consensus with conspiracy theories? --Čeha (razgovor) 15:08, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If you want a broader community view, start a neutrally-worded Request for Comment. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:29, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Ba Congress

The article Ba Congress you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Ba Congress for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Kges1901 -- Kges1901 (talk) 01:02, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Backlog Banzai

I am new to participating in Backlog Banzai. I have been creating and updating the Missing Topics about Espionage. Just wanted to check in with someone to make sure I am doing it right. I have updated my section of the Worksheet. 12:36, 3 September 2019 (UTC) User:G._Moore Talk

Yep, looks okay to me, although you should only be scoring actual articles created, not redirects. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:32, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Since you are the protecting admin, do you want to decide about placing the merger templates? There is a request at Talk:Turkish Croatia#Protected edit request on 4 September 2019. I was going to ask the proponent if they could find anyone else to back a merger, but you should do whatever you prefer. From the history of the article, I see that the same merge was proposed before but it expired without action being taken. It appears that the existence of a thing called Turkish Croatia is not believed in by everyone, so it might be a nationalist trope. But the History section of the article has a lot more references than in June, 2016 so maybe progress has occurred. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 02:53, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Have done that, cheers. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:00, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
My apology to @Peacemaker67: for using his TP, but I am compelled to clarify on situation and circumstances, and in response to @EdJohnston:, since this issue, as it seem, won't go away easily - as behavior of two involved, now possibly three, self-identified Croatian editors, can be illustrated by following attempt to re-group and organize a WP:TAGTEAM, with editor Ceha alerting editor Silverije to "take an eye onto discussion" at User_talk:Peacemaker67#Turkish_Croatia, one in which Ceha was quite assertive and demanding; then editor Silverije alerting editor Shokatz, another Croatian POV pusher, with whom I had problems in previous encounter on directly related subject(s) with EdJohnson himself being familiarized and involved (problems characterized with discussion at EdJohnston TP in which I was openly degraded by Shokatz who called me a troll, an idiot, among other things), emphatically asking editor Shokatz if they can send him (Silverje) an email. First, allow me to redress EdJohnston find about previous merger from 2016 (one Ed linked) - that was actually second attempt (by some editor) to merge article, because the first merger, one which was executed, was done between 23 June and 29 June 2010, with administrator Joy being forced to revert several of Silverije's redirect deletion and page recreation, and repel him with a "vandalism" warning; but Silverije then waited for nearly 3 years to proceed with his plan to recreate this nationalist claptrap, or as Ed properly remarked, nationalist trope. Now, the current, protected revision is the only version of this article that is actually possible to confirm in sources, which I did, using some in placed references, however, it still needs to be merged into the Bosnian Krajina, since the topic of even this protected referenced still fails to warrant standalone article per WP:NOTA, being also WP:CFORK (WP:POVFORK, WP:COATRACK) of no less than four articles dealing with the same subject from various angles: Military Frontier, Croatian Military Frontier, Bosanska Krajina and Donji Kraji (and to the extent in few more). Meanwhile topic is being explicitly bound to the history of Bosanska Krajina region. It's a version these three Croatian editors (and some IP, at times) are minded to remove from wikipedia at price of being involved in prolonged edit-wars, meatpuppetry, and complete disregard for behavioral and/or edit policies and guidelines. Revision that aforementioned editors prefer, as written in manner of geographical and historiographical account but from evident historical revisionist POV, and used in persistent reverts, is blatant fork under the most obscure geo-political term for a title, where they can vent WP:NAT and WP: SYSTEMIC bias without being exposed to wider community scrutiny.--౪ Santa ౪99° 15:32, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TFL notification

Hi, Peacemaker67. I'm just posting to let you know that List of ships of the Royal Yugoslav Navy – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for October 4. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 21:14, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Giants2008! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:59, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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