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– The parenthetic disambiguation in each of these titles is unnecessary. Their unadorned names are unique; we have no other articles that share any of these names. There is no ambiguity to resolve for any of them. For most of these, the articles were recently at the unadorned base names anyway, but were moved after what I believe to be a recent misguided RFC that was not announced at WP:RM and closed by an inexperienced non-admin closer who misread consensus. In any case, there is no basis at WP:AT or WP:D for including the parenthetic disambiguation in these cases. I understand the desire to have them all look the same as those that require disambiguation, but WP is replete with counter-examples. That's just not how we do things here. For example, we only add (film) in a title of an article about a film if the title is ambiguous. There are a few special cases, most notably most US cities, but the ", state" convention is arguably not disambiguation, as the , state is considered to part of the name of each of these cities. By removing the parenthetic disambiguation on these titles we will bring them in line with policy, guidelines and conventions. Leaving them this way creates a precedent for ignoring our naming conventions and opens the door for much more ambiguity and conflict regarding what titles can be in such cases, a recipe for endless unproductive bickering. В²C ☎ 20:56, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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+* [[:Danish Palaces (Fabergé egg)]] → {{no redirect|Danish Palaces}}
+* [[:Alexander III Equestrian (Fabergé egg)]] → {{no redirect|Alexander III Equestrian}}
+* [[:Twelve Monograms (Fabergé egg)]] → {{no redirect|Twelve Monograms}}
+* [[:Basket of Wild Flowers (Fabergé egg) ‎]] → {{no redirect|Basket of Wild Flowers}}
+* [[:Bay Tree (Fabergé egg) ‎]] → {{no redirect|Bay Tree}}
+* [[:Blue Serpent Clock (Fabergé egg)]] → {{no redirect|Blue Serpent Clock}}
+* [[:Bouquet of Lilies Clock (Fabergé egg) ‎]] → {{no redirect|Bouquet of Lilies Clock}}
+* [[:Cradle with Garlands (Fabergé egg)]] → {{no redirect|Cradle with Garlands}}
+* [[:Diamond Trellis (Fabergé egg)]] → {{no redirect|Diamond Trellis}}
+* [[:Fifteenth Anniversary (Fabergé egg)]] → {{no redirect|Fifteenth Anniversary}}
+* [[:First Hen (Fabergé egg) ‎]] → {{no redirect|First Hen}}
+* [[:Imperial Coronation (Fabergé egg)]] → {{no redirect|Imperial Coronation}}
+* [[:Kelch Chanticleer (Fabergé egg) ‎]] → {{no redirect|Kelch Chanticleer}}
+* [[:Lilies of the Valley (Fabergé egg)]] → {{no redirect|Lilies of the Valley}}
+* [[:‎Nobel Ice (Fabergé egg)]] → {{no redirect|‎Nobel Ice}}
+* [[:Red Cross with Imperial Portraits (Fabergé egg) ‎]] → {{no redirect|Red Cross with Imperial Portraits}}
+* [[:Red Cross with Triptych (Fabergé egg)]] → {{no redirect|Red Cross with Triptych}}
+* [[:Rose Trellis (Fabergé egg) ‎]] → {{no redirect|Rose Trellis}}
+* [[:Standart Yacht (Fabergé egg) ‎]] → {{no redirect|Standart Yacht}}
+* [[:Steel Military (Fabergé egg) ‎]] → {{no redirect|Steel Military}}
+* [[:Third Imperial (Fabergé egg)]] → {{no redirect|Third Imperial}}
+* [[:Memory of Azov (Fabergé egg)]] → {{no redirect|Memory of Azov}}
+– The parenthetic disambiguation in each of these titles is unnecessary. Their unadorned names are unique; we have no other articles that share any of these names. There is no ambiguity to resolve for any of them. For most of these, the articles were recently at the unadorned base names anyway, but were moved after what I believe to be [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Faberg%C3%A9_egg#RFC_on_egg_naming_convention a recent misguided RFC] that was not announced at [[WP:RM]] and closed by an inexperienced non-admin closer who misread consensus. In any case, there is no basis at [[WP:AT]] or [[WP:D]] for including the parenthetic disambiguation in these cases. I understand the desire to have them all look the same as those that require disambiguation, but WP is replete with counter-examples. That's just not how we do things here. For example, we only add (film) in a title of an article about a film if the title is ambiguous. There are a few special cases, most notably ''most'' US cities, but the ", state" convention is arguably not disambiguation, as the , state is considered to part of the name of each of these cities. By removing the parenthetic disambiguation on these titles we will bring them in line with policy, guidelines and conventions. Leaving them this way creates a precedent for ignoring our naming conventions and opens the door for much more ambiguity and conflict regarding what titles can be in such cases, a recipe for endless unproductive bickering. [[User:Born2cycle|В²C]] [[User_talk:Born2cycle#top|☎]] 20:56, 2 May 2017 (UTC)