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Please i need your help

Please tell me how to protect Wikipedia page. please guide me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lifeisgood01 (talk • contribs) 09:57, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello Lifeisgood01. Welcome to the Tea House. Which page do you think needs protecting and why? Pages are normally only protected in extreme cases of persistent vandalism or edit warring because we want editing to be as open as reasonably possible.--Charles (talk) 10:33, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello

Hello Cullen i saw you are online - I would need some help very quickly. do you got 5 min for me? thank youAdniim- (talk) 06:39, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Individual Engagement Grant proposal around mentorship

Hi there. Myself and Jackson Peebles have written up an IEG proposal, with the idea being to approach adoption/mentorship in a more light-weight way to the way it is often done now. You can view our proposal at meta:Grants:IEG/Reimagining Mentorship on Wikipedia, your feedback and ideas would be appreciated. Regards, Steven Zhang (talk) 17:24, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Talk: Cary Lee Peterson [New Article Creation] - Why did I receive this response?

I received this message regarding the following article:

"Hello, Rvplpr, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rvplpr/sandbox#Cary_Lee_Peterson

All references were displayed for each paragraph on this URL link below. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rvplpr/sandbox

All of the details in the article were from 3rd party and credible source. Can someone please tell me what is preventing this from being published.

Thanks in advance for your help getting this article into Wikipedia! (Rvplpr (talk) 13:43, 2 October 2013 (UTC))

Please do not engage in forum shopping in asking the same question in two or more places. You also went to WP:ANI with the same question. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:09, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

You may indeed have taken the information from reliable sources, but you didn't include any references to the reliable sources. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:11, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Petronilla of Aragon

Hello everyone. I need help. User Srnec started an edit war without good reason. I put a picture of Queen Petronilla of Aragon in her article and he removed the picture because he says that "is useless to put portraits painted after the death of the person". I don't understand his position (there are numerous articles that have portraits painted after the died of the people portrayed) and I think that the compromise is very difficult.--EeuHP (talk) 13:51, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Hello. I have made an edit and discussed this on the talk page of the article, I will leave the discussion of the article content there. As regards the warring, problems occur where one or two people hold a conversation through edit summaries. For an article such as this, the consequences of the article being in a state one considers non-optimal for a day or two are minimal. Rather than re-reverting, it is better to discuss the edits on the article's talk page and try and form a compromise. This is known as the BRD cycle and, in its extreme form, the one-revert rule. If the dispute can't be resolved simply there are several tiers of dispute resolution. See Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution. In this case I have invoked the simplest of these options and have acted as a third opinion.

Please note that when two editors have a dispute, it does not necessarily mean that either person is being disruptive. It is quite possible, in all good faith, for two editors to disagree on article content. Being a good Wikipedian isn't about being right 100% of the time (or being able to always convince others of your opinions) but instead engaging with your co-editors in a constructive way. Many thanks, --LukeSurl ^{t c}

Neutral 3rd party needed for new user

Hi. Apologies in advance if this is outside of your scope here, but it seemed closer to what I'm after than WP:RETENTION. I filed an AN/I report (here) a few days ago about an incident involving an editor from Encyclopedia Dramatica who has come to Wikipedia apparently to add humorous information to some of our articles. Unfortunately the humor at Encyclopedia Dramatica is filled with racism and homophobia so I've been reverting this material and I think he now considers me an "enemy." This sounds like vandalism, I know, but from reviewing his brief edit history (he's made around 50 edits in total) I think he is actually trying to help but he just doesn't understand the rules here. I've tried to explain them to him but I'm sure I don't have the gentlest touch and by now he is clearly not interested in anything I have to say. The folks at AN/I seem to think he's a troll, but I think the evidence suggests that he's just misguided. If any of you get a free moment, could you please try talking to him to see if he's more inclined to respond to a neutral third party? All the details can be found in the AN/I thread linked above. -Thibbs (talk) 18:09, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Top and bottom posting

Three questions posted at the bottom today. When are we going to give up this sui generis top posting? --ColinFine (talk) 09:35, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

good luck with that. The issue has been brought up more times than I can count, and has been summarily dismissed by those who are in charge. Maybe this time they will listen, but I doubt it. --Jayron32 11:07, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

I thought that "those who are in charge" are the community of Wikipedia editors? Bottom posting is the agreed convention elsewhere in Wikipedia discussion, and it causes confusion for this odd page to do things the opposite way to the rest of Wikipedia. - David Biddulph (talk) 04:41, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Not going to go into detail on the reasons I think this top posting scheme is a bad idea as I've said it before but re-registering my support for a reversal, futile as it may be.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:17, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Summarily dismissed? Really? That's unfair, Jayron. I've made an effort to explain my rationale for that decision every time the topic has been raised here. I've also never enforced it (not that I have the authority or the userrights to do that anyway). As to sui generis, well, Flow will top-post in a similar fashion to the TH gadget. So the gadget's days of being a special snowflake may be numbered. Also, I implemented it in the new Evaluation portal Q&A board, so it actually already has a little friend.

Then again, I don't answer questions at the Teahouse these days. If you want to change it, maybe start a new thread in the lounge to assess whether there's consensus among those who are currently active. If the consensus is for change, someone like Writ Keeper can update the script. I believe he feels the same way y'all do.

The Teahouse has always done certain things the opposite way of the rest of Wikipedia. That was kinda the point.

There's a Flow office hour on IRC tomorrow at 18:00 UTC, btw, for anyone interested. Cheers, - J-Mo ^{Talk to Me} _{Email Me} 22:12, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm not going to get involved with this debate yet again, nor with whether or not the many previous discussions were summarily dismissed by the WMF side of things, but I'll be happy to implement any necessary changes to the script; just let me know. I exist only to serve. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 22:25, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Its always best to confuse our new editors as much as possible this is why this page is the revers of all others. -- LOL somethings simply dont make sense around here -- Moxy (talk) 23:31, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Help test out The Wikipedia Adventure, a new and fun way to learn how to edit Wikipedia

Hi folks, I've been working for the past 7 months on an interactive guided tour for new editors called The Wikipedia Adventure, as part of a WMF Individual Engagement Grant. The game is an experiment in teaching our aspiring future editors in an educational but playful way.

• This week I need some alpha-testers to kick the tires. I'm interested in your general impressions and suggestions, as well as gnarly, unexpected browser issues, layout problems, workflow bugs, and other sundry errors that would prevent you from playing through and having a positive experience.

• If you're able to spend 1-3 hours doing some quality assurance work this week, you would have: a) my sincere gratitude b), a sparkly TWA barnstar, c) special thanks in the game credits, and d) a chance to leave your mark on Wikipedia's outreach puzzle and new editor engagement efforts

• Please note that the game automatically sends edits to your own userspace and it lets you know when that will happen. If you want, you can register a new testing account just for the game, but it won't work properly unless you're logged-in by step 8 of mission 1 when it lets you register on the fly.

If you're interested, please add your name below and have at it. You can post feedback to WP:TWA/Feedback. Thanks and cheers! Ocaasi ^{t | c} 20:51, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Try out The Wikipedia Adventure

I'm interested and on the bug-hunt. Will report back this week

1. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line}
2. Ross Hill (talk) 21:18, 16 Oct 2013 (UTC) 21:18, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

   I'll be editing under user:Ross Hill 2. Ross Hill (talk) 21:30, 16 Oct 2013 (UTC) 21:30, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

3. ///EuroCarGT 21:33, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
4. Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:59, 16 October 2013 (UTC) Just finished. I've taken copious notes of suggested changes, bugs, etc.; will post soon
5. Flat Out
6. I'm interested. I'll give it a burl. Tambelon (talk) 00:28, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
7. Checkingfax (talk) 01:11, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
8. Matty.007 (possibly editing under Matty007). I will try and return feedback this week...
9. Estaling I'm super excited because I am a new contributor and in the process of learning. I'll post some comments this weekend (by 10/21/13). Estaling (talk) 04:25, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
10. I always totally must sign up to anything that has people "super excited". --Demiurge1000 (talk) 04:27, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Could host bot be programmed not to post invites on pages of blocked users?

The invitation to come post at the Tea House seems to be inappropriately rubbing salt into the wounds of an editor when they have been blocked and cannot edit there. [1]

Could the bot be programmed not to post invites to blocked users? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 21:01, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

On the one hand, having the invitation might be helpful for them should they ever be unblocked, but I agree with Red Pen. It's a false invite and inappropriate when given this way. HostBot should be able to detect blocked users and withhold sending an invite to them. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 19:36, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Archiving bot broken?

We're up to 94 threads; some appear to have been last edited on October 10.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:45, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Generation Wikipedia: Wikimeda Youth Conference Proposal

Hi folks! For the next round of Individual Engagement Grants from the WMF, Keilana and myself have proposed Generation Wikipedia, a pilot, week-long summer conference for young Wikipedians and Wikimedians from around the globe, to develop skills, leadership, and community in a safe environment. Please come and check it out: Generaton Wikipedia Cheers, Ocaasi ^{t | c} 02:44, 24 October 2013 (UTC)