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====Yang Guangxian====
====Yang Guangxian====

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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on June 30

The Finale (Will & Grace)

  • ... that more than 18 million viewers saw the series finale of Will & Grace, making it the most watched episode of the final two seasons of the show?

Created by Theleftorium (talk), ThinkBlue (talk). Self nom at 13:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Yang Guangxian

Created by Fram (talk). Self nom at 12:12, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


2009 Viareggio train derailment

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 10:41, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wabash Little Giants

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 07:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


The Southern District of New York Action Against Online Poker Players

  • ... that federal authorities in New York may have gambled that nobody would fight it when they unexpectedly seized $34 million from 27,000 United States accounts?

Created by Balloonman (talk). Self nom at 06:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The 1940s House

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 01:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


David S. Rohde

Almost completely rewritten and greatly expanded by ChrisO. Self nom at 02:23, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yuliya Krevsun

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 01:04, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 29

La residencia

Created by Andrzejbanas (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 13:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Betty Niccoli

Created by Nikki311 (talk). Self nom at 03:08, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


SMS Blücher

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 00:31, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Bundesarchiv DVM 10 Bild-23-61-11, Linienschiff "SMS Thüringen".jpg would be a decent image for this hook. Note that the title incorrectly labels the photo as that of SMS Thüringen; not to worry, it's clearly Blücher. Parsecboy (talk) 00:31, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Irv Hall

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 22:44, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Holmegaard bow

Created by MartinFields. Self nom at 21:51, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Derzon

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:42, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Balao halfbeak

Created by Ryan shell (talk). Self nom at 20:08, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hubert Humphrey presidential campaign, 1968

Created by William S. Saturn (talk). Self nom at 19:36, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Quirin

Richard Quirin

Created/expanded by Wizardman (talk). Self nom at 19:05, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Royal Mail rubber band

Created by Tagishsimon (talk). Self nom at 17:10, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nice article :-) MaenK.A.Talk 09:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Troy (BBC radio drama)

  • ... that actor Paul Scofield came out of retirement in 1998 in order to play the part of Hermes in the BBC radio play Troy?

Created by Peter cohen (talk). Self nom at 17:55, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

People v. Molineux

Created by Bender235 (talk). Self nom at 16:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Analogue filter

Created/expanded by Spinningspark (talk). Self nom at 15:24, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New York Public Library is intended. There are many libraries in New York City.--Wetman (talk) 19:07, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I expect you are right, I was following the wording in the source (Darlington). SpinningSpark 20:32, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hyperion (Longfellow)

Frances Appleton Longfellow

  • Comment: I know it's probably early, but if this could be saved for July 10, that would be nice.

5x expanded by Midnightdreary (talk). Self nom at 14:25, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and length verified and offline sources accepted as AGF. However, would you clarify who Frances Appleton is in the hook such as Longfellow's later second wife, or a daughter of Nathan Appleton? Or, I think the article has a lot of interesting factors - heavy criticism by Edgar Allan Poe, or Edward Elgar's comment on the work, and Ms. Appleton was ashamed of his depiction on her in the work, they got married 4 years after the publication of the book - so you can make the hook more intriguing using the facts.--Caspian blue 02:25, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I wanted it to focus on Frances Appleton as an homage on the anniversary of her death (in that sense, neither Poe nor Elgar are relevant). Nevertheless, alter the hook any way you would like. Perhaps amend "who would eventually become his wife despite disapproving of her depiction in the book?" Too long? --Midnightdreary (talk)

Shanhua Temple

  • ... that the Shanhua Temple (pictured) in Datong, China, contains a wonder hall that is over 900 years old?

Created/expanded by Zeus1234 (talk). Self nom at 09:38, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • "wonder hall" sounds unusual (try Googling the phrase, and note that most hits don't have that meaning). "hall of wonders" is better. "wonder" doesn't occur in the article at all, but it apparently refers to Daxiongbao Hall, with artifacts that could be called "wonders" if that isn't too WP:PEACOCKy. Art LaPella (talk) 00:08, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Union Mills, Burnham Overy

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 08:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Holmium(III) oxide

Holmium oxide, left: natural light, right: fluorescent lamp light

  • ... that luminescence of holmium oxide is so bright that the material changes its color from yellow to orange-red under fluorescent light (pictured)?

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 07:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Monte Cervantes

Shipwrecked passengers were housed at this prison in Ushuaia in Jan 1930

  • ... that the cruise ship Monte Cervantes known as "The Titanic of the South" shipwrecked on 22 Jan 1930 yet all 1200 passengers and 350 crew members were saved with only the captain lost?

Created by WikiBlackledge (talk). Self nom at 05:09, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cremation of Care

5x expanded by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 04:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I Know (You Don't Love Me No More)

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 04:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC). Self nom at 04:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Earthquake of 1348

Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 03:55, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Julius Babao

Articles created/expanded on June 28

Jamie Clark

Created by GiantSnowman (talk). Self nom at 16:47, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Iterative proportional fitting

Created by Hanzzoid (talk). Nominated by Qwfp (talk) at 10:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gaius Iulius Caesar (name)

Bust of Julius Caesar

Created by Cybercobra (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 03:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Interbreeding of dingoes with other domestic dogs

Dingo (Canis lupus dingo) at Cleland wildlife park, South Australia

Created by Inugami-bargho (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 03:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Name of Georgia

Lasha Zhvania

Created by Kober (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 02:54, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tommy Thevenow

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Volcano House

  • ... that one of a series of hotels called the Volcano House, built at the edge of Kilauea volcano since 1846, burned to the ground from a kitchen fire, not a lava flow?

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Self nom at 00:50, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Raša River

  • ... that though the Raša River in Croatian Istria is less than 30 km long, it has formed a boundary for much of the last two millennia?

Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

McCaw Cellular Communications

  • ... that McCaw Cellular started their business by buying, selling and trading licenses for cellular frequency allocations after Craig McCaw read an AT&T article that suggested they were being sold at a steep discount?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan Stokes

Created by Mervyn (talk). Self nom at 20:57, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Albert Napier

Johnny Sylvester

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:03, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Augustus Dickens

Created by Jack1956 (talk). Self nom at 20:01, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

White Dome Geyser

Created by Bill-on-the-Hill (talk). Self nom at 16:29, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Davidson Ditch

Created by JKBrooks85 (talk). Self nom at 12:16, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Manor of Rensselaerswyck

5x expanded by Wadester16 (talk). Self nom at 07:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I'm wrong, but why on Earth does the link on "American" lead to Names for U.S. citizens? He was a United States citizen for at least part of his life, wasn't he? Dahn (talk) 11:48, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Dropped the link - American is not a word that needs to be linked anyway. Geraldk (talk) 14:21, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The only reason I included it is so he's not mistaken for any of his ancestors, some of whom weren't citizens, only colonists (Stephen I and Stephen II died before the Revolution). That link was used because it's what's used in the infobox of United States under Demonym. It's not a big deal whether it stays or not, though. Cheers, wadester16 00:37, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Artillery of France in the Middle Ages

Created by PHG (talk). Self nom at 07:18, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Zhang Yuqi

Created by Rjanag (talk). Self nom at 05:41, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I duplicated the refs right at the end of that sentence. I agree with you; in the past I've always yelled for people to repeat refs as much as possible close to the hook fact, and here I broke my own rule! (Especially given that it's a non-English ref and most readers can't check.) rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 02:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Morton Gottlieb

  • ... that Broadway producer Morton Gottlieb described theater as a profession easiest to start at the top, noting "All you need is chutzpah. You call all the agents and say, 'Here I am — a producer!'"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:43, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Created by Kayau (talk). Self nom at 05:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, there were 551 characters, but yes, I know that is not enough either. All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 07:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 27

Elisha Williams House

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 03:57, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Franklin Morse

Franklin Morse

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 00:17, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • While I don't object to the hook, I wonder why I can't find the drawing in question ("The Halfback" by Charles Dana Gibson), not just on Wikipedia, but anywhere via Google. Since the drawing would be out of copyright by now, it ought to be included in the article about Morse, if it can be found. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 08:38, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lublin Ghetto

Created by Radeksz (talk) and User:Ostateczny Krach Systemu Korporacji (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 17:36, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of Grove Plays

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 17:24, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rhodocollybia

Created by Anna Frodesiak (talk). Nominated by Sasata (talk) at 04:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Italian immigration to Switzerland

Created by Soap9000 (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 03:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hericium

Created by Anna Frodesiak (talk). Nominated by Sasata (talk) at 21:12, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The source (ref#11, the one with the Google Books link] gives a number of common names, including "Monkey's Head" (1st paragraph), as well as "baby monkey" (2nd paragraph, translation from Chinese). Sasata (talk) 16:43, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gambling on papal elections

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 19:33, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fedcap Rehabilitation Services

  • ... that, originally established as the Federation of Crippled and Disabled in 1935, Fedcap Rehabilitation Services switched to its current name in 1992?

Created by 67.88.55.149 (talk), FingersOnRoids (talk), 68.38.239.23 (talk). Self nom at 12:33, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ham Hill, Wiltshire

Musk Orchid (Herminia monorchis)

5x expanded by SP-KP (talk). Self nom at 10:12, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

George Martin (Royal Navy officer)

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 23:27, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Off-line ref accepted in good faith. Geraldk (talk) 00:37, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Amilie, or the Love Test

Gypsies chorus from Amilie: sheet music cover, New York, 1839

Created by Smerus (talk). Self nom at 21:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done, now 2100+ --Smerus (talk) 05:53, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ALT... that William Michael Rooke's opera Amilie, or the Love Test (sheet music cover pictured) enabled New Yorkers of 1838 to appreciate 'a broad new repertoire'?--Smerus (talk) 11:17, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gerhard Jahn

Created by AdjustShift (talk), 5x expanded by Skäpperöd (talk). Self nom at 18:25, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT... that the mother of former German Federal Minister of Justice Gerhard Jahn died at Auschwitz? Geraldk (talk) 00:42, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The article is not about Jahn's mother. AdjustShift (talk) 19:17, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And your point? Was trying to offer a more interesting hook, and the contrast between his mother dying at Auschwitz and being Minister of Justice is a whole heck of a lot more interesting than the simple fact that he was appointed Minister of Justice. Geraldk (talk) 23:03, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
My hook tries to highlight the close relationship between Jahn and Brandt. When Brandt resigned as German Chancellor in 1974, Jahn also left the office. I think your hook will be more interesting if it highlights the fact that Jahn's mother was a Jew. AdjustShift (talk) 17:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chittorgarh Fort

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 17:02, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tropical Storm Cristina (1996)

Created/expanded by Anhamirak (talk). Self nom at 16:27, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • You meant 90° W, not 90°E which isn't in the Pacific Ocean. More seriously, I couldn't find that fact in the article as required by H5. Instead, it says it was the easternmost Pacific storm since Hurricane Paul, which isn't the same thing. Furthermore, I couldn't prove either statement using that sentence's reference, because its statistics are unlabeled, and I didn't find anything corresponding to the storm's geographical coordinates. Art LaPella (talk) 21:15, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Markham Gang

  • ... that while robbing the countryside east of Toronto, members of the Markham Gang found a way to sell the same stolen horses over and over?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 13:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Off-line ref accepted in good faith. Have altered the hook to better fit what it says in the article - they may have found a way to do it but the article doesn't suggest that this was 'new', i.e. the first. Geraldk (talk) 14:31, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mircea Nedelciu

Created by Dahn (talk). Self nom at 13:23, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Both Romanian-language hooks also check out. - Biruitorul Talk 04:42, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Theodore Hoskins

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 09:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The link on the on-line citation that relates to the hook is dead. Geraldk (talk) 14:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Updated to archived link [1] still same newspaper, still authored by Associated Press. Cirt (talk) 23:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent, confirmed now. Geraldk (talk) 00:28, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sitawaka Kingdom

  • ... that Sitawaka Kingdom in Sri Lanka which came into existence in 1521 became the most powerful and the largest kingdom on the island by 1587?
The article has no inline citations and was not created or expanded within the time limit. Geraldk (talk) 15:02, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SM-70

Created by Bullzeye (talk). Self nom at 08:50, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1:... that a witness to the effects of the East German SM-70 antipersonnel mine reported that "an approximately 5 meter (16 ft) area appeared as if it had been worked over by a rake"? Bullzeye contribs 21:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2:... that an East German, upon finding a deer shredded by the SM-70 antipersonnel mine, reported that "an approximately 5 meter (16 ft) area appeared as if it had been worked over by a rake"? لennavecia 00:05, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yours is better. Way to show me up :P Bullzeye contribs 02:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stanhope (optical bijou)

Created by Tasoskessaris (talk). Self nom at 07:19, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Both image and article meet dyk standards. Geraldk (talk) 15:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Alternate:

Samanalawewa Dam

  • Comment: There are two more images of the leakage and dam in the article, if a change is necessary.

Created by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 06:46, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed, but switched out the image for another one from the article. Geraldk (talk) 15:16, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Post-American World

  • ... that the book The Post-American World was criticized for not delivering on what the title promised: an examination of a world not dominated by America?

5x expanded by Maclean25 (talk). Self nom at 05:03, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Accepting that the link in the article is in good faith. Found a copy of the article here. Geraldk (talk) 20:21, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, how were you able to find that? It is "premium" (pay) content at globalandmail.com. And, yes, the material for the hook comes from the second last paragraph in that Global and Mail article. maclean 02:51, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Googled the article title and worked through the list. I'm too cheap to pay for premium anything... Geraldk (talk) 14:50, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 26

Rossman-Prospect Avenue Historic District

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 05:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Parke H. Davis

  • ... that Parke H. Davis, who retroactively named the American college football national champions between 1869 and 1933, was the only historian to select college champions based on research?

Created by Ruedetocqueville (talk). Nominated by Royalbroil (talk) at 04:36, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Queen Jane Approximately

5x expanded by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 20:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hook ref accepted in good faith. Really curious who the man is now... Geraldk (talk) 00:54, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

La Muerta

Created by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 20:38, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Foreign language ref accepted in good faith. Geraldk (talk) 01:00, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tabu Homosexualität

Created by FinalGamer (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 11:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

While the portion around the hook is obsessively cited, the vast majority of the article has little inline citation. If this is improved, I can get back around to reviewing it tonight or tomorrow to make sure it's ready for the anniversary. Geraldk (talk) 13:54, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Derrick Bailey

Racing colours

Created by Johnlp (talk). Nominated by Johnlp (talk) at 10:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Works, made a slight mod to the hook to better reflect the statement in the source, which mentions only the yellow being on his father's racing silks. Image license OK too. Geraldk (talk) 20:32, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Józef and Wiktoria Ulma

Created by Poeticbent (talk). Self nom at 02:22, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I see nothing wrong with the phrase "paying the ultimate prize" for saving other people in wartime, especially that the Polish Catholic Church already initiated the steps toward the possible beatification of the couple a few years ago, in recognition of their martyrdom. The phrase in the hook (above) was the phrase used in the article originally that’s why I would like concerned editors to please take a look at both, including the recent changes made by Biruitorul and give us some feedback here about what you think is most proper. --Poeticbent talk 11:52, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Least flowery is always best - let the facts speak for themselves (see WP:PEACOCK). So is saying what happened instead of how we feel about what happened (and I'm sure we all feel deep respect for the Ulmas). I think the changes were for the best, and the hook should also be rephrased. Dahn (talk) 13:40, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kay Noble

  • ... that in 1958, female professional wrestlers Kay Noble, Lorraine Johnson, Penny Banner, and Laura Martinez were charged with inciting a riot when they began fighting outside of the ring, but pleaded not guilty in court?

5x expanded by Nikki311 (talk). Self nom at 01:10, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gallardosaurus

5x expanded by Wilhelmina Will (talk), J. Spencer (talk), Firsfron (talk). Self nom at 00:58, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I created this page on the 23rd of June, but as it became DYK length three days later, I think it'd best be considered a five-fold expansion nomination. Mess around with the guy in shades all you like - don't mess around with the girl in gloves! (talk) 00:58, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nantucket Whaling Museum

Created by Matt Deres (talk). Self nom at 22:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Irving v. Penguin Books and Lipstadt

Wonderful hook. Mein Führer?! Oh, Mein Gott!Historicist (talk) 20:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Created by TachyonJack (talk). Self nom at 19:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Condy Raguet

Condy Raguet

5x expanded by Medvedenko (talk). Self nom at 18:56, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Arnhem Oosterbeek War Cemetery

Created by Ranger Steve (talk). Self nom at 17:34, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good call, thanks Ranger Steve (talk) 07:05, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shelly Gross, Lee Guber, Valley Forge Music Fair, Westbury Music Fair

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 16:07, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

St Matthew's Church, Buckley

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:25, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Separate Vocations

5x expanded by Theleftorium (talk). Self nom at 14:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sassoon Mausoleum

Created by User:Historicist ( Self nom )

I will say this. The character check passes and I will accept the offline sources in good faith BUT...the website for the Club mentions nothing about the mausoleum origins, so I'm going on the offline sources. Also, the use of the word "hip" is, in my opinion, slightly POV. Not sure about you, but I don't particularly think eating where a dead guy was buried, no matter how long ago that was, qualifies in my book as "hip". But, if you go by hip's literal meaning of "in the now", then yes, the website says "The club evokes the old school supper club feel of the 20's and 30's but with an up to date vibe." and, as a result, is NPOV. Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 15:40, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I just put up links to several recent articles about the "hipness" of the supper club, including an online source that describes the club as located in the Sassoon Mausoleum. As to dining in a mausoleum, well, there really is no accounting for taste, but the owners may think they have good reasons for not promoting this fact in their advertising copy. It really is a remarkable building. You can google image up lots of photos.Historicist (talk) 18:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The article now has links to online material and photos. It's not as reliable or as permanent as the books, but it will allow you to click and confirm and see this outrageous building.Historicist (talk) 18:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
We under-rated (over-rated?) British good taste. The club actually brags about being in a former mausoleum. http://www.thehanburyclub.com/privateparties.phpHistoricist (talk) 19:03, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Then you're probably unaware of this. Art LaPella (talk) 20:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I am not certain how you intended that remark to be taken. In addition to having once been the burial place of several members of a notable family, the Sassoon Mausoleum is a notable example of Indo-Saracenic in Brighton, not far from the Royal Pavilion. In other words, this is a serous article about an architecturally and historically notable building, the oddness of the switch from mausoleum to supper club notwithstanding.Historicist (talk) 20:54, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't mean anything serious, nor did I mean to criticize the nomination. Art LaPella (talk) 21:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Right. Its just that, given the subject matter, when I clicked, the graphic was a bit, er... startling.Historicist (talk) 23:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If it isn't funny, feel free to remove it. Art LaPella (talk) 23:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Päivi Tommola

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 10:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Metal Ions in Life Sciences

Created by Petergans (talk). Self nom at 08:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article has no references whatsoever and reads as a promotion rather than an article. Geraldk (talk) 14:25, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I9 says "No external links in the hook." Art LaPella (talk) 20:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Red Lyons

5x expanded by NiciVampireHeart (talk). Self nom at 07:06, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed. Geraldk (talk) 14:29, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Slava Zaitsev

Created by Russavia (talk). Self nom at 06:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Metropolitan Opera House (Iowa Falls, Iowa)

Created by Singingdaisies (talk). Self nom at 03:31, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel Coleridge's Conversation poems, Dejection: An Ode, Fears in Solitude, Frost at Midnight, Reflections on Having Left a Place of Retirement, The Eolian Harp, The Nightingale (Coleridge), This Lime-Tree Bower My Prison

Created by Ottava Rima (talk). Self nom at 02:40, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • The first ten pages of Google Books listings, excluding titles that capitalize everything, include 15 "Conversation Poems", 7 "Conversation poems", and 35 "conversation poems". Art LaPella (talk) 05:05, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is split in criticism. When it is used as a chapter title, everything is capitalized (as are all chapter titles). However, I followed the discussion in renaming The Lucy poems with a lower case "p". I really don't care either way. If some people want to put together a ragtag consensus and get support for any of the three options then that is fine. Ottava Rima (talk) 13:36, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • If it helps, the critics tend to think of it as a "genre" (like a nature poem or something similar) that Coleridge created. (I decapitalized "conversation" until an agreement can be met upon) Ottava Rima (talk) 13:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1982 Washington Metro train derailment

Created by Patriarca12 (talk). Self nom at 00:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Jesse Lee Kercheval

Created by Kayau (talk). Self nom at 02:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article is all right, but it could be improved a bit. There are too many headings for each book with little content. I suggest you combine some of these under one heading (maybe something like "novels" or "fiction") instead of keeping separate headings for each, since it looks kind of incomplete that way. Date & length are fine. Chamal talk 11:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 25

T.P. Wiseman

Created by Cynwolfe (talk). Nominated by Bruce1ee (talk) at 09:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Headroom (photographic framing)

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 04:20, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moreae

Fruit of Morus alba
Fruit of Morus alba

Created by Guettarda (talk). Self nom at 04:19, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Houses at 37-47 North Fifth Street

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 07:04, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A. J. Antoon

  • ... that A. J. Antoon was nominated for two Tony Awards for Best Direction in 1973, a feat not repeated until 2009?

5x expanded by Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 02:17, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

William Lewis Moody, Jr.

Created by Auntof6 (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Papal conclave, 1513

  • ... that the traditional account of the papal conclave, 1513 has been judged extremely improbable by a modern mathematician?

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Lindsay Bethune

Created by PHG (talk). Self nom at 20:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date, and hook checked out. I grouped some of the references together by using <ref name> instead of <ref>. I left one ungrouped so you could try it yourself (assuming that you weren't aware of this tool). Talk me if you have any questions. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 03:56, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of Space Invaders video games

Created by Guyinblack25 (talk). Self nom at 19:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kiwirrkurra, Western Australia

Created by Grahamec (talk). Self nom at 14:34, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Marilyn Vance

Created by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 06:28, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gone for Goode

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 06:21, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Former UNESCO World Heritage Sites

Created by Ekem (talk). Self nom at 03:59, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Ford (broadcaster)

  • ... that radio broadcaster Frank Ford adopted his name while hosting a show sponsored by Frankford Unity Grocery Store, later wondering what his name would have been if the sponsor had been Piggly Wiggly?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Snow-Bound

  • Comment: I'm sure someone could write a better hook, if they want to give it a try.

Created by Midnightdreary (talk). Self nom at 01:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wolverton to Newport Pagnell Line

Created by OllieFury (talk). Nominated by Simply south (talk) at 00:30, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sydney Fremantle

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 00:04, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Graeme Bell

5x expanded by Shaidar cuebiyar (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Love Devotion Surrender

5x expanded by Drmies (talk) and Hekerui (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 21:59, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Serge Makofo

Created by Jimbo online (talk). Self nom at 21:06, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kolbein Lauring

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 20:02, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fancy Nancy

  • ... that posh is a fancy word for fancy?

Created by Jauerback (talk). Self nom at 19:09, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Contrary to an increasingly popular assumption, DYK hooks are not riddles, limericks or Easter eggs. What's more (and per WP:ATTR), the hook refers to something both subjective and fictional: it is something a character in a book says, not something established and agreed upon by all people who know the definition of "posh". A proper way of phrasing this would be something along the lines of "that the children's book Fancy Nancy defines "posh" as "another word for fancy"?" Then again, that is not a very interesting hook. All things considered, this might work as one of those quirky hooks they keep around as an April's Fool, but I doubt it. Dahn (talk) 02:42, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Four-State Tornado Swarm

Created by Runningonbrains (talk). Self nom at 19:08, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Coeur Alaska, Inc. v. Southeast Alaska Conservation Council

Created by Kelapstick (talk). Self nom at 16:29, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gold Stealing Detection Unit

Created by EA210269 (talk). Self nom at 15:39, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

St Michael's Church, Manafon

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:04, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Erik Welle-Strand, Egil Reksten, Sverre Midtskau, Einar Johansen, Haakon Sørbye, Bjørn Rørholt

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 14:57, 25 June 2009 (UTC) Bjørn Rørholt made by Oceanh.[reply]

Battle of Arnhem

  • Comment: I fully understand if this article doesn't meet the criteria for inclusion. It was started last year (by myself) and then I had to abandon it. In the last 2 weeks I've expanded it from this version to its current status. Just thought I might try!

5x expanded by Ranger Steve (talk). Self nom at 12:13, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Was thinking of that myself. Thanks anyway! Ranger Steve (talk) 15:56, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Velvet belly lantern shark

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 06:36, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New Mexico School for the Blind and Visually Impaired

Created by Uncia (talk). Self nom at 03:16, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

From a Buick 6

5x expanded by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 02:04, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on June 24

Alois Plum

Edith Stein and Maximilian Kolbe; two modern saints in the Herz Jesu church, Kassel

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 15:36, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Walter Boal

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Byzantine Papacy

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 17:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hawaiian Volcano Observatory

5x expanded by W Nowicki (talk). Self nom at 02:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm sorry, but the expansion is not fivefold. If it was close, it could have been passed since the article has been quite improved, but it's more than 1000 characters short of the required amount. Chamal talk 12:20, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wee Willie Harris

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 21:07, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Green wasn't the only colour he dyed his hair, it was often also orange or pink. You could just leave "green-haired" out of the hook. Everything else checks out. --Bruce1eetalk 14:19, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Keable

Created by Gonzonoir (talk). Self nom at 11:35, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

John Callaway (journalist)

  • ... that John Callaway created the award-winning news program Chicago Tonight and was awarded 10 honorary doctorates, despite being a college dropout who hitchhiked to Chicago with 71 cents in his pocket?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:17, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Queens Borough Hall

Created by Wasted Time R (talk). Self nom at 02:24, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Urban biosphere reserve

Queen's Park of Brighton

Created by Chanakal (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wołów bank robbery

Comment. All sources are Polish, I have been trying to find some English ones, but I have not found any. This is not a controversial article, so I hope it is OK. Tymek (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Virginia Zucchi

Virginia Zucchi, 1886

Created by Wizardman. Self nom at 23:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Strandgaten, Bergen

Created by Aqwis (talk), Rettetast (talk). Self nom at 22:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Voyage that Shook the World

Created by JoshuaZ (talk) and Voyaging1 (talk). Nominated by User:JoshuaZ (User talk:JoshuaZ) at 21:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Complications of hypertension

Created by Madhero88 (talk). Self nom at 21:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shin-Yakushi-ji`

Created by Bamse (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry

5x expanded by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 20:30, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article makes no mention of it being the final song. But how about this hook:
ALT1: ... that Bob Dylan was heckled by fans while playing "It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry" during his controversial electric set at the 1965 Newport Folk Festival? --Bruce1eetalk 09:43, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Samarkand clan

Created by Bsimmons666 (talk). Self nom at 20:21, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anna Turner (producer)

Created by Ekans (talk). Self nom at 18:33, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Karine Ruby

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:09, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

length, date, and source for hook verified MaenK.A.Talk 08:05, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sociology in China

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 17:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Allen Steckle

Allen Steckle, 1899

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 15:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dan Lungu

Created by Dahn (talk). Self nom at 13:18, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • To speed this up, since I realize a reviewer may find it difficult to follow: there are several citations and/or quotes for this - and, yes, the sources for them are all in Romanian. The hook subject is detailed specifically in the paragraph about Povestirile vieţii, which is a work of sociology, and again in the main one about Raiul găinilor and the second one about Sînt o babă comunistă!, which are works of fiction. References 12, 15, 18 and 22 in this version. Dahn (talk) 13:25, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hematological Cancer Research Investment and Education Act

Created by Wasted Time R (talk). Self nom at 12:58, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Biegel

created by IP 194.109.232.171 (in 2003!), 5x expanded by Fram. Nominated by Fram (talk) at 11:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please compare the actual text (intro plus (now biography)) from the version before I expanded to now: [2]. The whole article is expanded *8, but the biographical part is expanded relatively even more. It went (in my count) from 177 characters to 1891 characters, or a *10 expansion. Fram (talk) 14:37, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. It passes DYKcheck, which doesn't count the bibliography. Art LaPella (talk) 21:23, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

George McTurnan Kahin

Created by Arsonal (talk). Self nom at 11:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Federico Romero

Federico Romero circa 1917

  • Comment: The article was created on 21 June 2009 with 343 characters by User:AlbertHerring (to whom credit should also go) and expanded to 3586 characters (excluding notes and lists) by User:Voceditenore on 24 June 2009.

5x expanded by Voceditenore (talk). Self nom at 09:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rainier Club

  • The reference for the hook fact is from fundraising brochure published by the Rainier Club. Do you have a third-party source? Shubinator (talk) 17:39, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Not offhand. It's pretty hard to imagine that an organization this prominent would lie about such a simple fact. Since I'm not going to track down 100-year-old newspapers in the next day or so, the main source I would go to if I wanted something more solid is Walt Crowley's history of the Rainier Club. He was quite a respected historian, and I'm sure I can find the book, but the Rainier Club published it, so would you just end up rejecting that source on the same basis of not being independent?
    • Another alternative: I suspect that the passage in that fundraising letter (it's not really a brochure) on the club's historical significance is verbatim from the materials on the club's historical significance submitted to the U.S. government in the application for money to help with the repairs. Would it make any difference to you if I can find this more official document?
    • Meanwhile, I'll look for some other source or try to come up with a different hook. - Jmabel | Talk 18:27, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How about an alternate hook, cited from The Dry Years, which is the definitive history of Prohibitionism in Washington State:


Jmabel | Talk 18:43, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The one sentence on the Club in the book says If his correspondents were irritated with the inefficiency of federal agents - their blindness, for example to the stores of liquor in Seattle's Rainier Club, Elk's Club, or Arctic Club - the governor made it clear that these were matters over which he had no control. It's a bit of a stretch to go from the source's passing mention to "blithely continued serving alcohol". Shubinator (talk) 03:31, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder where I can find a better citation for that (it's certainly factual, and I've heard it from multiple sources, but wasn't taking notes at the time). - Jmabel | Talk 17:26, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'll eventually try to track something down from old issues of The Argus, but can't possibly do that quickly enough for DYK purposes. - Jmabel | Talk 17:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Some Los Angeles Times articles mention the Rainier Club getting raided during the Prohibition: "Liquor raids to continue" on May 16, 1916 and "To invade rich homes without a legal writ" on January 22, 1916. Shubinator (talk) 18:23, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah, but 1916 was anomalous. That's when Prohibition began in Washington State (4 years before national Prohibition). Mayor Hiram Gill (who had previously been anti-Prohibition) decided (my words here, not his) "OK, if the people want Prohibition, we'll give it to them and hard," and proceeded to raid the Rainier Club, rich people's homes, major hotels, etc. That lasted a few months. Then the usual corruption set in and lasted for the duration. - Jmabel | Talk 04:47, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Norske Intelligenz-Seddeler

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 00:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Foreign language hook accepted in good faith. You may want to clarify some of the information in the third paragraph - it isn't entirely clear. Geraldk (talk) 00:50, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the review and for improvements to the article. I have tried to clarify parts of the third paragraph, as suggested. Oceanh (talk) 23:43, 24 June 2009 (UTC).[reply]
I have always thought that while N.I-S was Norway's oldest periodical publication, the oldest newspaper was Adresseavisen. That said, two of the sources verify the hook, so I guess that trumps my original research. decltype (talk) 01:54, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 23

Lublin Ghetto

Created by Radeksz (talk), Ostateczny Krach Systemu Korporacji (talk). Self nom at 19:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The postage stamps and postal history of the German colonies

Created by Ekem (talk). Self nom at 04:16, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Winnetka School District 36

Created by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 05:09, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Surely its the school, not the school district that was formed ten years before according to ref. Change that and its approved, although article could do with a pic, 3rd part ref and/or infobox. Victuallers (talk) 07:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hah, you're right. Sorry about that. I won't be able to provide a picture, but I've expanded the article a bit more and included a third reference and an infobox. How is it now? --Starstriker7(Talk) 08:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reed (weaving)

  • ... that a reed is a comb-like tool used in weaving that determines how fine the cloth is?

Created by Loggie (talk). Self nom at 11:24, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a bit concerned about the sources here. We have a dictionary, a glossary, the 1911 Britannica, and an 1894 book - are there any more substantial sources on the reed? There is also an unsourced section. Awadewit (talk) 01:32, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What type of sources would you like? Most books on weaving assume you already know what it is and all. I haven't yet found sources that say that they are interchangeable, only ones say to use different reeds for different weight fabrics. I'll keep looking though. Loggie (talk) 22:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Better? Loggie (talk) 10:42, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

History of South African wine

  • Comment: FN#1 & FN#2 in lead as well as Vintage FN#4 & Domaine FN#4 refs in the "Settlement of the Cape of Good Hope" section

Created by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mass drug administration

Created by Lseidlein (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 02:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mass of Saint Gregory

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 00:27, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oldest surviving and earliest known mean two different things. There may have been older works that were simply destroyed. Geraldk (talk) 01:59, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There is a problem with the hook; there was another ref, but I can't access it.
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Phineas and Ferb (video game)

Created by SuperFlash101 (talk). Self nom at 20:13, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Two problems. First, the link doesn't seem to be working for the in-line citation on this hook. Second, the hook is stated differently here than in the article, where it says they 'had little information' about the game. That means something different from 'have no part'. Geraldk (talk) 11:50, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I've deleted the image. It fails on two counts, first that it doesn't appear in the article and second that its copyright rationale is currently being questioned. Geraldk (talk) 11:53, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's working fine for me, I don't understand why it isn't for you. And, here, better worder:

ALT2: ... that Dan Povenmire (pictured) and Jeff "Swampy" Marsh had nearly no involvement in the video game based on their television series?

Better? The Flash {talk} 15:09, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The in-line citation link works fine for me also, assuming audio without video was intended (it could be mistaken for a dead link when nearly all of the screen goes white.) Art LaPella (talk) 21:23, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That's true. GeraldK, is that what you found wrong? The Flash {talk} 22:42, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ding, you discovered my problem. You guys are pretty quick. Wanna fix my computer too? Confirming ALT2. Geraldk (talk) 02:02, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
lol, Good. The Flash {talk} 04:42, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Moon is Blue

5x expanded by LiteraryMaven (talk). Self nom at 17:13, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • 6988/2653 = 2.6x prose expansion. Please continue expanding. Shubinator (talk) 00:21, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I disagree with Shubinator. Article was 633 words long prior to expansion and now stands at 1484. To expand the required "5x" would mean the article would have to be 3,165 words long. Should expansion include fluff and trivia and a lot of padding simply to qualify for DYK? I don't think so. Quality, not quantity, should count. The article was expanded considerably from a stub to nearly B class, is well-written, and now includes previously missing references. I think this is a fairly complete article as it stands now. MovieMadness (talk) 13:21, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with Shubinator and Art. This isn't close to 5k. The limit exists for a reason, otherwise any expansion would qualify an article for DYK, and I think we're backlogged enough already. Geraldk (talk) 02:21, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

De Iniusta Vexacione Willelmi Episcopi Primi

Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 15:17, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Success Will Write Apocalypse Across the Sky

Created by Cannibaloki (talk). Self nom at 14:31, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed, prefer the first option, it provides more detail and is fully backed up by the two references on the applicable sentence. Geraldk (talk) 01:11, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Astraeus hygrometricus, Astraeaceae

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 05:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Matthias Bernegger

Created by Matthead (talk). Self nom at 00:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded with some background info on the translation of Galilei's work, and how Galilei's involvement was concealed. Hopefully it's now over 1500 char.-- Matthead  Discuß   03:47, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 22

Aladi Aruna

Created by Like I Care (talk). Self nom at 20:57, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have just added that information. --Like I Care 18:36, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Papuan King Parrot

  • ALT1; draws attention to a biographical article on "Edward Pierson Ramsay" that appears to have no in-line references to provide easy verifiability. Similarly "Australian Museum" has a template heading the article indicating concerns about verifiability. In addition, the article on the the "Giant Bandicoot" is a very short stub and the article on "Pig-nosed Turtle" is a short Start Class article. Snowman (talk) 08:17, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by Snowmanradio (talk), Casliber (talk). Self nom at 06:45, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gay Bowel Syndrome

Created by Thisglad (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 02:28, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Needs about 400 more characters to meet size limit. Also, from the article, "The term "gay bowel syndrome" is currently considered obsolete, non-specific, and potentially derogatory." So perhaps we should use it in the hook as if it's an accepted medical term. — Jake Wartenberg 14:49, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't run this on Stonewall day. People have utterly no sense of humor about such things. Although I laughed at the thought of the reaction we'd get ...--Wehwalt (talk) 15:45, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
How about keeping it for April Fool's Day? It is one of those that makes you stop and scratch your head... --candle•wicke 03:29, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that this is appropriate for April Fools' Day either. It might be seen as implying that the term is "funny". We wouldn't run something to do with racism on that day, so I don't think anything that might evoke homophobia concerns is a good idea either. Just playing it safe here... In any case, the technical requirements are all set. — Jake Wartenberg 14:58, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If our goal at DYK is to be more like Encyclopedia Dramatica then putting this on the main page would be a good step. This term is obsolete, which means it was used in ignorance. That, however, doesn't alleviate any offense it may cause. Law type! snype? 15:07, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm with Law - if it is going to be promoted, at the very least the alt hook should be used, and I'm not sure about it being potentially derogatory. hamiltonstone (talk) 01:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The alt 2 hook sounds better than others. --BorgQueen (talk) 12:45, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Big twenty township

Created by Sssss snake (talk). Nominated by 66.30.45.255 (talk) at 01:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • No it isn't. The western half of the U.S.–Canada border is mostly at 49 degrees north, and Big Twenty Township is about 47 1/2 degrees north. The article says "It is the northernmost township in the United States except for Angle Inlet, Minnesota, and parts of Alaska." But that isn't true either – although not every state has townships, North Dakota has townships and Minnesota has other townships near the Canadian border. The hook's reference in the article mentions only the northernmost point in Maine, not the U.S. Art LaPella (talk) 06:03, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Felicisimo Ampon

  • ... that Felicisimo Ampon was the first and only Filipino tennis player ever to make it to the quarter-finals of the French Open back in the 1950s? and there's never been a Filipino player ever made it that high in Grand Slam tennis ever since...

Created by Donmar (talk). Self nom at 16:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Phoemela Baranda

  • I've added two more sources both are news paper articles, one is in a native version though, please use google to translate contents. Also FHM is the body that gives the award, isn't that the best site for reference? but never the less I added 3 more references, plus I also added the magazine which contained the source. Hook now has 6 references. --TitanOne (talk) 03:05, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 21

Thakin Lwin, Burma Socialist Party

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 22:23, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Proposal for an alternate hook, incorporating a third article (started today):
--Soman (talk) 10:52, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Frank J. Low

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, reference and history verified. Daniel Case (talk) 03:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Douglas SASSTO

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 14:53, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Clan Macdonald of Sleat

5x expanded by Celtus (talk). Self nom at 07:00, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, history and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 03:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mercedes-Benz W25

Created by Matthead (talk). Self nom at 02:14, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This new article on a historically important race car has over 4500 char of prose in the main section, and 7 inline citations, including both hooks. Plus a bunch of internal and external links. It's all in the sources, just not as one convenient sentence. If that is not enough, so be it. -- Matthead  Discuß   22:24, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This article would be good to go with alt1 if the four competely unreferenced paragraphs had one of those floating numbers next to it, I'm not asking you to source every single line.--Giants27 (c|s) 22:56, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 20

Kevin O'Donoghue

Created by Gaia Octavia Agrippa (talk). Self nom at 22:13, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Welsh did a substantial amount of work; I am adding him as well.
  • There are, right now, no third party sources besides the Ministry of Defence. To me, those are not enough third party sources to put on the main page; could you find newspaper stories or such? NW (Talk) 00:12, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stanley R. Jaffe

  • Comment: article a collaborative effort with User:Drmies

Created by Drmies (talk), MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 04:12, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • It's still 275 as we count them. You probably misinterpreted Q1 where it says, "... the text as it displays to the public (not from the edit screen which contains wikitext) ... " Count the text as it displays to the public, including the words "Stanley R. Jaffe", "Paramount Television", "Paramount Communications", "Brandon Tartikoff", and "Paramount Pictures". The reason counting from the edit page doesn't give the same result is because it contains "wikitext" and therefore includes the symbols [, ], ', and similar characters that don't show. Whether you agree with my interpretation of my own rule or not, I can assure you that's how we count everybody else. Art LaPella (talk) 06:03, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • No... what I misinterpreted was WP:Did you know/Additional rules where it states "If your hook introduces more than one article, you can do a basic calculation by subtracting the number of characters in the bolded character string for each additional new article beyond the first. If having done that the hook length is still 200 characters or less, it is probably an acceptable length.", thinking the wikilinks were intoductions to other articles. Luckily, I provided alternate hooks... as well as a shortened version of the original. Please feel free to use whichever one you feel creates the greatest interest in the article. Thank you. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 22:10, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Washington State Route 113

A 1966 map showing the original route of Washington State Route 113.

5x expanded by ComputerGuy (talk). Self nom at 20:05, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Finalized version:

Articles created/expanded on June 17

Sibudu Cave

  • ... that in Sibudu Cave, 40 km north of Durban in South Africa, have been found the earliest example of a bone arrow and a needle (61,000 BP), and the use of compound glue (72,000 BP)?

Created by LittleHow (talk). Self nom at 18:37, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • The abstract and conclusion of the paper cited to support the first claim (Middle Stone Age bone tools from the Howiesons Poort layers, Sibudu Cave, South Africa; Lucinda Backwell et al Journal of Archaeological Science 35 (2008) 1566-1580)says with usual caution "If the bone point from the HP layers at Sibudu Cave is substantiated by future discoveries, this will push back the origin of bow and bone arrow technology by at least 20,000 years,"
  • The other supporting reference in (Lyn Wadley, Implications for complex cognition from the hafting of tools with compound adhesives in the Middle Stone Age, South Africa PNAS 2009) in the text introduction says "The use of simple (1-component) adhesives is ancient; for example, birch-bark tar was found on 2 flakes from 200,000 years (200 ka) ago at a site in Italy (3). At 40 ka, bitumen was found on stone tools in Syria (4), and a similarly aged site in Kenya yielded tools with red ochre stains that imply the use of multicomponent glue (5). Traces of even earlier (70 ka) compound adhesives occur, together with microfractures consistent with hafting, on Middle Stone Age (MSA) stone tools from Sibudu Cave, South Africa". And in the conclusion: "Hunters’ lives depend on reliable weapons. This dependency would have been a powerful incentive in the past to create trustworthy adhesives for composite weapons. Our experiments intimate that by at least 70 ka (and earlier evidence may eventually be found at sites other than Sibudu) people were competent chemists, alchemists, and pyrotechnologists. We propose that these artisans were exceedingly skilled; they under understoo the properties of their adhesive ingredients, and they were able to manipulate them knowingly." Apologies if this has some typos but I have broken two ribs and just got back from hospital.--LittleHow (talk) 00:47, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bar Council of Ireland

Created/expanded by Masteredmond (talk). Nominated by ImperatorExercitus (talk) at 14:17, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this link to the Constitution of the Bar of Ireland and the premable to the constitution both say that the previous constitution was adopted on 20 February 1914, 70 years earlier than 1984 - is there a reason why the article says 1984? BencherliteTalk 22:47, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

John G.F. Francis

Created by Jheald (talk). Self nom at 12:08, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I do not think that this is a reliable source. This looks just like the moderated academic listservs I belong to. There is nothing that prevents speculation on them and there is no tradition of peer review, fact-checking, etc. that goes along with these. The editing seems to be limited to pruning posts. How do others feel about this source? Awadewit (talk) 16:34, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Have you read the postings in question? They are hardly "speculation". Rather, they are report-backs of interviews that had been conducted. According to WP:RS we accept statements by acknowledged authorities in their fields, when speaking on matters to do with the fields in question. When it comes to methods for matrix computations, and their history, you don't get more of an authority than Gene Golub. Jheald (talk) 19:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have problems with this article as is (inline xlink, text too similar to source in some areas, and including some of its unencylopedic language like "still in good health") but sourcing isn't one of them. We have a template for citing mailing lists as sources; clearly some of them are considered to meet RS. Peer review (assuming we don't consider mailing-list moderation to be sufficiently equivalent; in which case we'd have to exclude a lot of news outlets as sources as well since they have about the same level of review) whether academic or otherwise, isn't really that much better at guaranteeing the accuracy of the information in question then, well, we are.

The undeniable fact here is that we have a citation to a post on a moderated mailing list serving academics in a subfield of mathematics, a post attributing something to an expert (admittedly deceased) in that field notable enough for his own article here, a post that is three months old and has not been refuted or challenged. I would prefer seeing transcripts of the actual interviews, or an article resulting from them, but until we have them this is sufficient for me. Daniel Case (talk) 04:18, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools'). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

Articles created/expanded for Canada Day (July 1)

Buffalo 461

  • ... that the loss of nine military crew members and passengers when Buffalo 461 was shot down over Syria on August 9, 1974, remains the largest single-incident loss of life in Canadian peacekeeping history?

Created by Bwilkins (talk), Ahunt (talk), MilborneOne (talk), and Gwen Gale (talk). Self nom at 17:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Yves Bérubé

Created by Circeus (talk). Self nom at 17:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Alternative: "... that while a member of René Lévesque's provincial government, Yves Bérubé held three different positions that were used for the first time in Quebec history?"


Richie Hall

Richie Hall

5x expanded by DoubleBlue (talk). Nominated by Giants27 (talk) at 18:55, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Restelli

5x expanded by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 18:55, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tumbo Abanikanda

5x expanded by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 18:55, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Markus Howell

Markus Howell

5x expanded by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 23:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lenny Walls

5x expanded by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 18:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • A few issues here. All of the sources are bios from the teams he played for. Is there any independent coverage of the man? Also, there are some spots of close wording, for example:
Article: He started every game for the rest of the year recording multiple tackles in each.
Source: He started every game until the end of the regular season and recorded multiple tackles in each ...
Also, sports hooks should explicitly mention the sport. Shubinator (talk) 15:40, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Will look for more sources and reworded the mentioned close wording to "After his debut in Calgary, he started every game for the rest of the year, getting multiple tackles in each", are there any other spots? And an alt: ... that in every game Canadian football player Lenny Walls started for the Calgary Stampeders in 2008 he recorded multiple tackles?--Giants27 (c|s) 15:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Added three more sources, will add more if needed.--Giants27 (c|s) 15:51, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In general the sentence structure and wording of the sentences in the article are very similar to the sources. A lot of these are statistics, which you can't say too many different ways, but the flow and structure could be changed. In the last example, the two different topics (games started and tackles) could be split into two sentences. Here's another close sentence:
Article: Walls recorded 21 tackles and two pass breakups in seven games before he was placed on injured reserve with a separted shoulder.
Source: Walls posted 21 tackles, two pass breakups, and one forced fumble ... before he was placed on injured reserve ... with a separated right shoulder.
It often helps to incorporate more sources so you're forced to think about multiple sources, and the result is less likely to be close wording since one particular phrase isn't stuck in your mind. Shubinator (talk) 19:48, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Reworded to: In 2004, Walls played in seven games and had 21 tackles along with two pass breakups. He was later placed on injured reserve with a shoulder injury. I'll look for more close wordings.--Giants27 (c|s) 19:57, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think I got them all, and I also broke up some sentences to avoid two non-related things being in the same sentence.--Giants27 (c|s) 20:04, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Article looks good now. Here's an alt that mentions the sport and isn't so close to the source:
ALT1: ... that gridiron football player Lenny Walls recorded multiple tackles in every game he played for the Calgary Stampeders in 2008? Shubinator (talk) 02:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) for ALT1. Thanks for addressing the issues. Shubinator (talk) 02:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of Nunavut

Flag of Nunavut

5x expanded by Geraldk (talk). Self nom at 13:32, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Compagnies Franches de la Marine

5x expanded by Geraldk (talk). Self nom at 12:22, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wilfrid Lacroix

Created by Dl2000 (talk). Self nom at 00:20, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The portions of the article that mention his election to the House of Commons are unreferenced. Geraldk (talk) 03:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Additional references added - also note that many of the following references already in place clearly indicated Lacroix's membership in the House of Commons, supporting the hook. Dl2000 (talk) 04:34, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Off-line and foreign language refs accepted in good faith. Well done. Geraldk (talk) 17:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dimitri Tsoumpas, Keith Shologan

5x expanded by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stanford Samuels

5x expanded by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 17:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alt1 ... that Canadian football cornerback Stanford Samuels recorded the Winnipeg Blue Bombers' only blocked punt of 2006?--Giants27 (c|s) 15:54, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • (checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history, reference good for Alt1. This article is also mostly sourced to team bios. The content is almost all factual, so it isn't so much of a problem, but try to incorporate more third-party sources in the future. Team bios usually don't give unflattering stats (like most fumbles for the season). Shubinator (talk) 16:32, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Marcel Bellefeuille

Created by Giants27 (talk),DoubleBlue (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan Brown (gridiron football)

5x expanded by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 01:47, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • All req's met. The sentence in the article about the first hook was a fragment, so I took the liberty of fixing it. I prefer the alt because the fact that it took a defensive end 9 years to catch his first interception isn't really that special, seeing as most defensive ends have never caught interceptions, or at least that's what I'd think.Fingerz 05:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded for July 4th (July 4)

Syng inkstand

Syng inkstand

5x expanded by Geraldk (talk). Self nom at 02:42, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It looks good from here! Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 03:53, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Just thought of it, but it may make sense to hold this for July 4. Geraldk (talk) 12:25, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Added an image. Doesn't need to be used, it's just there if anyone wants. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 20:11, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Enoch Crosby

Created by Geraldk (talk). Self nom at 19:32, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Johnstown

5x expanded by Geraldk (talk). Self nom at 01:56, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Annual Reminder

Created by Otto4711 (talk). Self nom at 18:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Without getting into politics, I'd suggest a rephrase so we don't assert as a fact that LGBT American do not etc. etc. I think some might disagree with that statement.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm certainly open to a rephrase. I wrote and rewrote the hook trying to maintain the relevant content while adhering to the character limit. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Otto4711 (talk) 16:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 ... that the Annual Reminder was intended to let Americans know that LGBT Americans did not enjoy the rights to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" guaranteed in the Declaration of Independence? Geraldk (talk) 19:15, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Changed "were" to "was". Including ellipses and question mark hook is 204 characters, which I'm fine with since I don't think the ellipses and question mark should be included in the character count. Otto4711 (talk) 19:44, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No, same problem. ALT2 ... that the Annual Reminders were held to persuade Americans that LGBT Americans did not enjoy the rights to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" guaranteed in the Declaration of Independence?--Wehwalt (talk) 19:46, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever re-wording is needed is fine by me as long as it conveys the substance of the article. Otto4711 (talk) 20:21, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Alt 2's fine, but it's a protest, so it isn't really issued. I made a slight change in wording to reflect that. Geraldk (talk) 23:09, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ALT 3 ... that the Annual Reminders on July 4 in Philadelphia protested that LGBT Americans didn't enjoy the rights to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" guaranteed in the Declaration of Independence? -- it's not perfect, but it adds in the July 4 connection explicitly and the location, though the wording is less than perfect even if it is exactly 200 characters. Alansohn (talk) 05:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I prefer alt3. Geraldk (talk) 13:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Alt3 is a little odd. It reads like the Reminders themselves were entities that engaged in protesting. Otto4711 (talk) 04:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On American Taxation

Edmund Burke

  • Comment: Please note that the article before expansion included three significant block quotes that were not demarked as such using wikimarkup, and that the article length count pre-expansion does not include the block quotes per A2

5x expanded by Geraldk (talk). Self nom at 23:04, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See also

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