User talk:HexaChord

News from Bucketheadland Issue 6 - May 8, 2009

You're reading the sixth issue of News from Bucketheadland, the infamous but irregular organ of the Buckethead Taskforce, telling you what binges and what not in the land of Headcheese. Feel free to shout out: "Byrralku Dhangudha!" Just another heads up: The Buckethead main article is still up for collaboration at WP:ACID. We also continue to work on the article about drummer Ramy Antoun. In the News: A preview of Death Cube K's upcoming album Torn from Black Space, the track "Watchers", can be heard on the new site of Rare Noise Records. "Watchers" is the fifth track out of six previews. A free twelve track pormo CD can be ordered on the website, too. According to the label, Torn from Black Space is slated for a release date in October. According to Bootsy Collins' official MySpace, the upcoming Z-Class album will feature veteran GN'R guitarists Buckethead and - ehm - one guy called Slash. See for yourself! Bootsy Collins mentions Buckethead in an interview with Sporting News. Recent Buckethead show opener, the Portland Cello Project have a Buckethead Tour Diary on their website. The diary gives some insights to Buckethead behind the scenes, but actually far less than some might wish. Joke of the day: Reese Witherspoon's secret... NOTE: Are you waiting for Captain EO to return?

Just drop me a line... --hexaChord² 20:04, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Queen concert tour articles

Hey, thanks for coming out of your semi-retirement to help defend the Queen concert articles at AfD. I really ought to be doing other things today, but Queen is one of my favorite bands (though I've never contributed to any Queen articles before today) and it infuriates me that lazy deletion arguments supported by absolutely zero research effort can end up potentially getting such famous concert tours deleted. When I'm done with the Queen research, if you'd like my help in finding sources for the deleted Pink Floyd articles and getting them DRV'd, let me know. DHowell (talk) 02:41, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Let them delete all the good stuff, I don't care anymore... --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 10:57, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that. If any of these lazy deletionists are in fact Internet trolls, they are no doubt congratulating themselves for provoking this reaction from you. Wikipedia clearly has inadequate defense against those who would use its own policies and guidelines in order to damage the project and provoke emotional reactions, but I'm not sure what can be done about it. DHowell (talk) 14:53, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

There's nothing to do as long as they are backed by some lazy admins, who count three copy & paste one liners higher than two !votes actually providing proof of notability. Not to mention speedy closes as soon as the balance shifts from delete to keep. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 22:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Re. Animals and other things I reverted

I wasn't contesting the truth of the statements (I'm sure it's all true), but it looked to me like someone was just inserting random facts into several articles without explaining the significance. If these facts are mentioned in a book, I'm betting there is some context to it. I'd be quite happy if the editor re-inserted the facts with more explanation, but I can't do it for him. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 13:09, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

The shift from being a band where all four member get writing credits (up to Dark Side) to a backing band for one Roger Waters (Final Cut) could be reflected in those articles I think. But it only makes sense when readers have a look on those articles in chronological order. Otherwise they might not get the background of those statements. I'm heavily Schaffner influenced as you might have noticed before, it was the only good book 15 years ago. It's many more books now, but I don't have them. To make useful contributions I guess I need some additional five to ten books - to not end up with dozens of mistakes like our friend over at the Dark Side article... ;-) --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 22:52, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

RedRose333

Hi, I was looking at RedRose333 (talk · contribs) edits to Jonti Picking, most of which are good faith, some a bit dubious...and I noticed the many, many warnings on their talk, and [Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive522#RedRose333_.28again.29 the AN/I].

Seems to be a case where the user doesn't respond to any discussion, never puts edit comments, *mostly* edits constructively, but - due to the aforesaid lack of communication - causes a substantial amount of work for other editors.

I'm not sure what action I could suggest; it would appear previous blocks just expired, and the user carried on. I had another similar-ish case, and all we could do was perm block them, with a big notice at the top of their talk, saying 'get in touch'.

I'd appreciate your input; this isn't really something I'm personally bothered about - I'll be trying to sort out the many issues with that article at some time. I just wondered what you thought should be done.

Cheers,  Chzz  ►  14:00, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I opened two cases at WP:ANI, but none of the admins cared much. What I would do? CU him to see where he's from, and if not from an English speaking country, I'd talk to him in his own language. It worked with User:Zonly before. Just my 2 cents. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 14:12, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Welcome

Your introduction on the ARS page is rather odd. Was your "for god's sakes" response in response to #199 above you?[1] If you are interested in saving music articles with sources, there are TONS of articles which get tagged for deletion reguarding music. Many of them are unknown garage bands...but some are salvagable. Welcome to the squadron! If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask! Ikip (talk) 06:06, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Nope, see: [2] and [3] to understand. It's just a re-entry. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 06:14, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

April 2009

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*lol*--Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 23:12, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

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Talkback

Hello, HexaChord. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/JamesBurns.
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 Additional information needed Mayalld (talk) 10:11, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

re: your earlier post to me...

Ahh.. mixed feelings Hexi. I do not support afd shenanigans in any way, shape or form. And at the same time the list a newly blocked account combined for over 40000 constructive edits that had nothing to do with AfDs... which is a sad loss to see. I am a strong supporter of Wiki-justice. I am not completely familiar with the editing habits of any of the named accounts in the CU case except for MegX... an account I've always had no problem with (an account that I never felt the need to review their edits because I trusted what they were doing was right) A trust that existed despite the fact that MegX and I had a very very very strong disagreement on certain content matter in the Led Zeppelin article. Now I am learning that the accounts that always came to the side of MegX during our numerous debates were, in fact, MegX in disguise. I never had any suspicions in all the time I have seen this editor(s) on Wikipedia. You probably know better than most... if you know anything about me at all.... that if I did have suspicions I would have gone behind the scenes directly to one of my admin friends and had an investigation done and blocks in place without ever going through the formalities of a proper CU case. Despite my own personal wiki-views towards "deletionism"... I have actually created very few AFD cases myself. But I have created some throughout my 5 years of involvement in this project and I hate the idea that any of them may have been compromised by any sock votes. That being said, I can't recall many AfDs that I did create that weren't overwhelming "deletes" in the end... and as I've stated earlier... I am not familiar with most of the names in the list of blocked accounts so I don't think too many of my AfD had any JB/MX involvement..... I think???.... I hope??? Glad to see you are still involved in Wikipedia in some way Hexi... even if it is a reduced involvement. I stand by what I said to you before... you and I have a concrete disagreement with regards to what content is worthy of an article on Wikipedia... but despite this disagreement... I still feel you are one of the best editors I have crossed paths with here... and I hope you stay involved in some way for a long time. The Real Libs-speak politely 12:42, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, where do I start? You talk about 40,000 edits. I've made about 25,000 since November (incl. lots of vandal fighting using Huggle and of course setting up WP:BH) and nearly walked out of the door because of people like JB. This editor vote stacked on all the Pink Floyd and Queen articles that got nominated recently (about 15 articles). I'm certain that without me all of them would have been deleted (only two were actually merged into other articles). The Black Sabbath articles will be relisted for the very same reason: the debate was close and they got deleted only because of vote stacking by JB. That was one reason why I did not want to edit any longer. So, how many people did walk out of the door the last four years because of similiar reasons? What is their combined edit count? Regarding WP:LZ, well, that's another thing. I don't know what they did or not, but the debate at Presence showed some behavior that tops mine on Floyd or Buckethead related articles by far. I did not vote stack to rescue the ten Buckethead articles recently while this editor vote stacks to prevent a simple move. Strange fruit. Finally, I have to thank you for all your support - you're currently one reason for me still being here. BTW: I want to revamp the Floyd Project - interested? --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 17:34, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

I am a ghost member of dozens of Wiki music projects. Being a 'real' member of one would hurt me at all. I will contribute to re-vamp as best as I can. The PF catalogue and the Rush catalogue are my only 2 "desert island" music requests (along with a few dozen cargo containers of Jagermeister and a couple hundred tabs of orange double barrel :-D ) The Real Libs-speak politely 18:25, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm looking for some active collaboration in improving music related articles, because even dozens of Floyd articles are in poor shape. I'm may be good in finding sources or organizing a project or whatever, but I'm a very poor writer. Without an online translator I'm not able to produce one straight sentence that's good enough for an encyclopedia. I need someone to act as a motivation to do it nevertheless, plus to correct my errors and mistakes (and thus learning and improving my skills). Of course, two or more people concentrating on one article will bring better results in most cases. BTW: There's still this waiting. ;-) --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 19:09, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

If you (or anyone reading your talk page) are looking for something to do to actively assist with this, please go and contribute to the discussion at Talk:Nobody's Fault but Mine#Connection to Blind Willie Johnson. Get the discussion back on track to what it is supposed to be addressing: the article. Read the sources; check whether they are reliable; check whether they support the proposed content; find supporting/contradicting sources; and so forth. Uncle G (talk) 03:27, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

I will have a look later, thanks. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 05:35, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

User:RedRose333

Does it looks like the first, second, third strikes aren't working? I see further edits but was that the type of disruption from before? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:11, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Exactly, but I'm tired of making Part IV... --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 07:48, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

No need. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 00:48, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

The demise of the series has begun. ;-) Thank you! See your talkpage, another candidate... --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 00:49, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

What are you talking about? That last edit was from the 22nd. They were blocked on the 23rd and now it's over. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 18:16, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

The "now it's over" part. We wanted them to talk, but not to walk out of the door. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 18:22, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm not surprised. It's quite common to find editors who leave in a huff when told they have to actually work with other people. Communication here is the hardest part. Editing is the easy stuff. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 18:32, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, here's our next client: User talk:68.39.64.33. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 09:20, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Ping

I sent you an email. Maybe that will help with some of the ongoing cleanup work. Tothwolf (talk) 11:49, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I've seen it, thanks. There's an ongoing ANI discussion about this certain editor, but in a different case. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 12:23, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

X-Y relations

I'd rather not encourage him any further. Yes, I wouldn't be shocked at trolling by voting the opposite way but I'm going to leave it until the people at the AFDs have an issue. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 00:50, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Man, are there only sockpuppets at AfD these days? --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 00:51, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Stay (Pink Floyd song)

Thanks for adding the citation. There were several posts on the deletion page saying there are sources out there that could be added, and certain changes could be made; I felt like saying, that's not the point, if the article isn't in shape now, then that (partially) validates the deletion proposal. But I didn't want to make it look like I was voting for deletion. I don't have any reference books for PF aside from an old paperback from the 70s (which I see others have used as citation, so it can't be completely useless), and so prefer to leave the book referencing to others. (PS, storm coming up here, lights flickering, better finish up and power down the computer.) --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 21:18, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I had this certain feeling that I would have to do all the work alone again... ;-) --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 21:32, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Well it depends on what kind of reference is needed. I can, and do, improve articles in other ways. You are not alone in vandal fighting, reformatting, and article-deletion-resisting. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 23:45, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

No, of course not, but sometimes it feels like. ;-) Many Pink Floyd songs need additional sourcing, otherwise they stay possible targets for AfDs. Actually, I don't have many books, but that seems to be more than others have, plus there's not many of us. At the moment I buy some magazines from the past twenty years that cover Buckethead and many of them feature Pink Floyd as well (not to mention that half the mags have either Keith Richards or Jimmy Page on the title *lol*). Today I got the Classis Rock issue from May 2000 which has a story on the The Wall concerts 1980/81 and the live album released in March or April of 2000. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 00:06, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

One idea would be to go through the song articles by album. One album per month. Enough work until next year's summer. I would buy some more books I'm still missing. How about that? --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 00:34, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

You've invited me to work on PF articles as a big project before, but I'm sorry, I don't have the time to commit to something like that, and would just disappoint if I tried. I prefer to work on WP randomly when I have time, at my own level. Even there, I have a bad habit of making big plans and only getting them half done. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 07:05, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

So it looks like my plans of revamping the Pink Floyd project are doomed. I can't do it alone and there's nobody else around. Actually I'm interested in improving articles like Derek Bailey and Company even more anyway, but would prefer cooperation over solo actions. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 22:08, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Maybe I'll watch those articles too; I am a fan of Bailey and Company (especially Lol Coxhill), and recorded an album of improvised music in 1990, released on vinyl. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 22:11, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Do you have the Company 91 records feat. Buckethead? Do you know him at all? I find it quite funny how many Pink Floyd fans are also Buckethead fans, even though this may be more around the younger listeners. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 22:17, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

All I have are older albums. Yes, I know of Buckethead... from you! Though the first time I heard his name was when a vandal inserted an edit in the Nash the Slash article saying he is the same person. BTW... [4] [5] (but not worth $35) --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 22:38, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I didn't know Nash the Slash but did you know Unknown Hinson? Well, I never got my "albums" pressed as LP or CD, but only sold them on tape or CD-R. Do you have any copies left? 35 bucks plus 16 shipping is a bit steep, yes. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 22:56, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

OK, do us proud....

Buckethead is the ACID collaboration, do yer best. Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:20, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. We still have some weeks until his 40th birthday. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 22:41, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Ha ha

I get the avant garde pun you have in your signature. - GunMetal Angel 20:27, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

George Harrison, he said, dismissed this type of experimentation with his typical humor by saying "avant-garde a clue". --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 20:30, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Might I add I love your cats? -- GunMetal Angel 20:31, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I think they appreciate that. *lol* --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 20:46, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

New userboxes

Hello HexaChord. I can see that you are a fan of Buckethead. Do you play Guitar Hero? If so, have you ever beaten Jordan? If you have and would like to brag about it, I made a new userbox just for that. Just put {{User:DisturbedNerd999/Userboxes/Buckethead Jordan GH}} on your user page. If you would like to specify a difficulty level (Easy, Medium, Hard, or Expert), just add that as a parameter, so it looks like {{User:DisturbedNerd999/Userboxes/Buckethead Jordan GH|Expert}} where Expert will be replaced with the difficulty level you really did beat it on (unless you really managed to do so :-)). Feel free to look at User:DisturbedNerd999/Userboxes for more which I may make. If you wish to suggest any other revisions to the template, feel free to.--DisturbedNerd999 (Delete!) 23:08, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion for the next joke of the day

"Buckethead, the lost Slipknot member?" (-) GunMetal Angel

I don't see a connection yet. Maybe his illegitimate kids? There may be potential, think about it. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 11:11, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

No, the joke is that he wears mask... >_< - GunMetal Angel

Wally Wilson

None of the sources you listed is anything more than a directory listing. I don't see a mention of him on the Skyline page, and the blog is only one source. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Many otters • One hammer • HELP)} 15:21, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

File:Screenshot Buckethead We Are One.png listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:Screenshot Buckethead We Are One.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Stifle (talk) 10:12, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Repost of Animal Behavior (Praxis single)

A tag has been placed on Animal Behavior (Praxis single) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia, because it appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion. If you can indicate how it is different from the previously posted material, place the template {{hangon}} underneath the other template on the article and put a note on the page's discussion page saying why this article should stay. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. If you believe the original discussion was unjustified, please contact the administrator who deleted the page or use deletion review instead of continuing to recreate the page. Thank you. Rockfang (talk) 21:23, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I guess you're old enough to hit the revert button? Man... --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 21:31, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm not going to make a big deal of it, but for future reference, as it says on the speedy template, you aren't supposed to remove it if you created the page.--Rockfang (talk) 21:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

A page? It was a redirect, man. As someone else stated before on this very talkpage: Just stay away from this place! --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 21:46, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Proofreading a quote....

I'm always afraid when I spot grammar errors in quotes I can't verify, because if they're originals, they should stay... but in [6], shouldn't "principles" be "principals"? Happy editing! --Alvestrand (talk) 21:30, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. Made a mistake there. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 05:42, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Happy HexaChord's Day!

HexaChord has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, and therefore, I've officially declared today as HexaChord's day! For your efforts with anti-vandalism and WikiProject Guitarists, enjoy being the Star of the day, HexaChord! Cheers, bibliomaniac15 22:52, 8 May 2009 (UTC) If you'd like to show off your awesomeness, you can use this userbox.

Ooops... Thank you! Thank you very much indeed! --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 22:54, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Hauke Harder

happy your day, thanks for the star. i don't know why the hostility to contemporary classical? when his pieces get played in multiple concerts it seems notable to me. hard to reference German, and no deference to German wiki. auf wieder sehen pohick (talk) 23:44, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Everything that's two inches beside American Idol & Co. faces a tough future. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 00:00, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Welcome

Thank you. Shadow At Dawn (talk) 15:24, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Response

I issued those warnings to TheSickBehemoth because he kept reverting "onward" to "present" in articles after having told him that "onward" was preferred as per WP:DATE, and that an administrator had done this to the Gorgoroth article. But he kept on ignoring this and so I decided to treat further actions as vandalism. Dark Prime (talk) 10:07, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Both are wrong, take a look at Wikipedia:DATE#Other date ranges: "The form since 1996 should be used in favor of 1996–present in article text and infoboxes." --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 12:19, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I assumed Mushroom used "onward" in the Gorgoroth article as per this sentence: "Ranges that come up to the present (as of the time that the information was added to the article) should generally be given in ways that prevent their becoming counterfactually obsolete, e.g. from 1996 onward (as of October 2007), not from 1996 to the present; "the present" is a constantly moving target." Dark Prime (talk) 12:28, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

This might be the right thing for the article body, but I don't think it's the right thing for infoboxes. Even people with the mop can be wrong sometimes. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 12:49, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, having the mop means folks will scrutinize your actions a heck of a lot more and chances are that folks will notice when you are wrong. That pretty much goes with any incremental privilege here. Speaking of which, since you and I have crossed paths several weeks ago, I've kept your page on my watchlist and looked around a few times. I'd say you're heading for the mop should you want it. Please let me know if/when you feel you are ready. I'd be willing to nom or co-nom. Cheers. Toddst1 (talk) 16:50, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Newsletter

I've removed the uncy link from Wikipedia:WikiProject Guitarists/Buckethead task force/Newsletter03 as it violates WP:BLP.--Otterathome (talk) 16:12, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I doubt very much that if Mr. Buckethead actually saw the newsletter with the link to the uncy page.... he would not be offended by it. The Real Libs-speak politely 16:19, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

This biography is much closer to the official version than the Wikipedia article. I guess Buckethead would prefer our article to be deleted. But congrats, in finding something wrong in an old newsletter! But what exactly is wrong? How does the external link violate WP:BLP? Which point exactly? And which part of the linked page? Why didn't you edit the linked page? And why did you delete the internal links, too? --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 16:25, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

We cannot link to biographical articles on parody sites as they contain intentionally fictional and potentially harmful information.--Otterathome (talk) 16:31, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

You mean we cannot link from biographical articles to parody sites? That's about what I read out of WP:BLP. This still does not answer why you removed internal links, or any of my other questions. I will restore the content. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord² 16:38, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I kinda wondered as much m'self. Even without the uncy link... what was wrong with comparing the Wiki 2003 version to today's beautiful version of the article??? The Real Libs-speak politely 16:48, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

You can restore any of it apart from the link to that page.--Otterathome (talk) 16:49, 15 May 2009 (UTC)