Talk:Mike Johnson

Self-proclaimed Moses?

Not sure we can include this, bu last month [1] Doug Weller talk 12:01, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Social Security and Medicare

This entire section is cited to primary sources and will be removed unless secondary sources are added. DarrellWinkler (talk) 15:17, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

The section is relevant, describing Johnson's position on Social Security and Medicare. The sources are necessary for verification. Removal would not be justified, and there is no policy that dictates removal. ~Anachronist (talk) 15:26, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

WP:BLPPRIMARY is explicit on this and primary sources are used to verify a secondary source, they arent to be used by themselves. I did find a secondary source and included it in the article. DarrellWinkler (talk) 15:36, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

BLPPRIMARY says not to use primary sources to support assertions made about a living person. We are not "asserting" anything about Johnson here, we are simply stating Johnson's own assertions, in his own words. BLPPRIMARY is intended to prevent original research. That isn't what we're doing here. ~Anachronist (talk) 20:32, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Agreed, no real reason to remove it and should stay. Could be expanded on I agree, but do not agree with removal. ContentEditman (talk) 17:04, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Appears somebody did add a CNN citation to the end of the few sentences in the section, so we can put this to bed.  Done MaximusEditor (talk) 17:41, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2024

In this phrase:

Jeanne Johnson and the late James Patrick "Pat" Johnson (who died in 2016)

please remove "the late", since (who died in 2016) conveys this information. 123.51.107.94 (talk) 01:20, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

 Done Thanks! NotAGenious (talk) 15:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Young-earth creationist

In the beginning of this article, the following is written:

"A young-earth creationist, Johnson sat on the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention between 2004 and 2012."

Not only is this unsourced, it's irrelevant to his political career as there's no following sentence that would indicate this being relevant to his political career. The next paragraph just goes into detail about how he began his political career. I think it would be best if this section was moved to the Personal life section of the article. Oogalee Boogalee (talk) 18:47, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

NPOV on Ukraine

With this edit by Wicorbottt, it is clear that some explanation is needed to indicate why the added content needs to be removed wholesale. Some of the content can be restored with adjustments, but other sources are wholly unacceptable in a biography of a living person due to reliability concerns, particularly when alternatives exist. An opinion piece, like this one, should not dictate how the article is phrased. Additionally, it's notable that no reasons are given for why Johnson has opposed the spending, despite his rationales being widely reported.

Several passages are also original research, prohibited in a BLP:

• There has been considerable speculation regarding Johnson's motives
• Between fall 2023 and spring 2024, Russian forces have capitalized on the weakened Ukrainian air defense caused by Johnson's blocking of American security assistance, which allowed them to increasingly damage Ukrainian energy infrastructure, with 80% of all thermal power plants destroyed in April 2024

These edits should be reverted and will be pending a day for discussion (it's a BLP, so I want to move quickly). My previous attempts to remove the POV content included the restoration of content relating to former leaders opposing Johnson's actions, as this seems immensely relevant to the article; my edits to this effect were also reverted by Wicorbottt. ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:15, 14 April 2024 (UTC)