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On the [[Fascism]] talk page, there is a stern warning about editors promoting the notion that fascism is left wing. That page has been subjected to a large amount of vandalism and I thought it might be worthwhile talking some pre-emptive measures. The Talk page has a warning at the top to discourage people from raising the matter, with an explanation of how the decision on where to place fascism was reached. It might be worth posting that same warning here. [[User:Flanker235|Flanker235]] ([[User talk:Flanker235|talk]]) 15:17, 13 July 2023 (UTC) |
On the [[Fascism]] talk page, there is a stern warning about editors promoting the notion that fascism is left wing. That page has been subjected to a large amount of vandalism and I thought it might be worthwhile talking some pre-emptive measures. The Talk page has a warning at the top to discourage people from raising the matter, with an explanation of how the decision on where to place fascism was reached. It might be worth posting that same warning here. [[User:Flanker235|Flanker235]] ([[User talk:Flanker235|talk]]) 15:17, 13 July 2023 (UTC) |
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Unhelpful reversion.
This reversion is not helpful.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Definitions_of_fascism&type=revision&diff=1026936854&oldid=1026893813
- "although not all authoritarian regimes are fascist."
- ... is statement of self evident fact c.f. Authoritarianism.
- "although not all authoritarian regimes are Fascist (epithet)."
- ... is not a fact, it is poor grammar at best and lacks NPV.
- "although not all authoritarian regimes are fascist."
- If reference to fascist as an insult is felt necessary (I don't) then something along these lines is more appropriate.
- "although not all authoritarian regimes justify fascist."
- Or both elements included.
83.100.188.53 (talk) 12:20, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Missing a definition that exists on Simple
The Defining Characteristics of Fascism by Dr. Lawrence Britt entered on the simple version of the Fascism article is missing from this Definitions of Fascism page here on the regular English version. I found it to be very informative, straightforward, and from a modern source.
Could it be added here?
--AreThree (talk) 02:51, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- I came looking for the same as Britt's list has garnered some attention. Alas, I'm not a confident Wikipedian. The original article can be read here if anyone is interested. --8dave (talk) 14:25, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- I have added Britt's list to the article, but using his original wording, and not the wording that was used in the modified version you referred to on Simple. I have updated the Simple article as well. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:25, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
Definitions
This article is called "Definitions of fascism", and, as such, should stick as much as possible to analyses of what fascism is and isn't and what constitutes a fascist regime. It should stay away from mere descriptions of fascist regimes. I have removed a number of entries which were entirely that. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:41, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
level 1
If fascism is ethernal for ,Umberto Eco, why not level one? 187.20.116.155 (talk) 01:00, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
@Luizpuodzius: Wikimediano (talk) 01:39, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
concerns about two template warnings
as of June 2022, two template warnings were added--that the article includes excessive quotations and excessive or improper use of non-free material.
i routinely recommend this page to students and researchers interested in fascism. It is one of the WP pages I recommend most often. In my opinion, it is really excellent. It is the most compact overview of what scholars and writers have offered as definitions of fascism I know of anywhere.
Re: quotation length. The quotations do not at all seem too long to me, and are all designed to pick out the essential core of what each important author says about the topic. Some may appear a little long (even then, only a little), but each of those appears to be a list of the specific items each author considers essential to defining fascism.
Re: sources. The sources are the appropriate ones, clearly chosen with care and attention to detail. When i look them over, I see very few that could be replaced with free material, except to the detriment of the article quality.
i am writing simply to indicate that I'd support both of the template warnings being removed, as I don't think this page would be improved by trying to meet the template demands. I had no role in composing or editing this page, but would hate to see it become less useful than it currently is.
I should say that in composing this message I noticed that the article is ranked C-Class and of low importance by both WP Politics and WP Philosophy. I don't know when those ranks were assigned, but as the article has stood for a while, I'd support much stronger grades in both. It is very important and of very high quality. Mr H3vnu83987 (talk) 19:26, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
A pre-emptive measure
On the Fascism talk page, there is a stern warning about editors promoting the notion that fascism is left wing. That page has been subjected to a large amount of vandalism and I thought it might be worthwhile talking some pre-emptive measures. The Talk page has a warning at the top to discourage people from raising the matter, with an explanation of how the decision on where to place fascism was reached. It might be worth posting that same warning here. Flanker235 (talk) 15:17, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
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