Talk:Adam Lazarowicz

Sources question

Article lists 5 sources in the end. All are just some web-sites in non-English language. Nonenglishness certainly does not disqualify the source per se but it would be helpful to have at least one English source if possible. However, most importantly, it is necessary to determine the credentials of the web pages. Who wrote the material there, who hosts this material. What are the credential of authors (if not anonymous) or web-sites, if known. --Irpen 22:15, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I wish there were some English sources for this article. Anyway, feel free to ask questions about these web pages. Tymek 23:23, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I did above. Feel free to answer them. --Irpen 01:26, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Feel free to ask, what is the specific source you dislike? Tymek 02:00, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

To form an opinion about the validity of the source I would like to know the answers to the questions above. Are they anonymously written or authored? Who is the author? What are his credentials if known. What organization hosts these pages. Is it academic, personal web-site, blog, newspaper, chapter of a history book posted online, a historic article written by a noted historian, etc? There is no way to establish reliability if all the references give is unannotated URL. --Irpen 02:03, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

My dear Soviet friend, there you go.

• Source one - article about Lazarowicz's family, from webpage of the Wroclaw Archdiocese, written by Wojciech Trebacz, a historian from Wroclaw's office of the National Remembrance Institute (IPN),
• Source two - article from Nasz Dziennik daily, writen by Elżbieta Jakimek-Zapart, a historian from IPN Krakow. This article mentions the "Katyn Style" exections of Lazarowicz, Cieplinski and others,
• Source three - article from a webpage on the Warsaw Uprising, based on several sources such as "Karta" historic magazine and the book "Zolnierze wykleci" by Jerzy Slaski, participant of the anti-Communist resistance,
• Source four - article from the "Nasz Dzienik" daily about murders in the Mokotow Prison , written by Zbigniew Lazarowicz, son of the murdered Adam Lazarowicz,
• Source five - a web page of the Debica Commune, mentioning most famous personalities of the area. Adam Lazarowicz, as you may have kindly noticed, is mentioned as the first one,
• Source five - article about cursed soldiers, retrieved from the book "Żołnierze Wyklęci – Antykomunistyczne Podziemie Zbrojne po 1944 roku”, published by Oficyna Wydawnicza Volumen, Warszawa 2002

Hope you are happy now, dear Irpen, it is a pleasure to talk to such a gentleman. Greetings Tymek 02:31, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

My dear friend. Please do not try to start your entries with an intended offense. Better yet, try to keep all epithets low. Questions now, if I may.

"Source three - a webpage on the Warsaw Uprising". What exactly do you mean? I thought the last W. U. took place a while ago and there was no internet back then. How come it still has a web page? Perhaps you mean some organization's page devoted to the W. U.? So, whose page is that?

Source four. How exactly is the article from the modern general newspaper written by a non-historian can be used as a source for an encyclopedia? --Irpen 05:42, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Dear Irpen, I am very glad that you are so interested in this topic, it makes me glad that such an expert on Polish matters takes his time. What I mean by a webpage on Warsaw Uprising is the fact that this webpage is about Warsaw Uprising. Simple as that. World War Two took place a while ago, yet there are books on it, I had just taken for granted that I do not have to explain it to such a scholar, I was wrong, my fault. If an article written by the son of the murdered man does not satisfy you, well, I am very sad, but this is your problem, not mine. In this sense it does not matter if he is a historian or not. He saw a lot with his own eyes. With utmost respect, thank you. Tymek 16:25, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

• BTW, if the adjective Soviet offended you, then I am very sorry. I thought that a person like you would be delighted. I am Polish and if somebody calls me Polish, I am happy and proud. Is there something you are ashamed of, as far as Soviets are concerned? Sorry again Tymek 16:28, 28 September 2007 (UTC)