User talk:Batman2005

Things you should know about Wikipedia

• There's always people who are going to take an overactive interest in your talk page and change it to fit what they want it to say...these people have no life.
• Some administrators will lecture you as if you're their own kid...ignore them...that's what I do.
• Saying somebody has a "hard on" for your talk page can get you blocked. But when other people come to your defense in the situation...you really only end up being blocked for 15 minutes.

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Archive 1 (December 17 2005 to March 5 2006) Archive 2 (March 6 2006 to June 30 2006)

Arena

I understand that. The way it's worded now is much better. Lasallefan 19:11, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

The crap on your user page

I'm asking for thoughts and advice. I don't see the point of my informing everyone who breaches wikipedia guidelines / policies that it's being looked into. If it upset you, I am truly sorry. Didn't even occur to me that I'd need to inform you. Proto///type 15:06, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey, that's much better. Thank you for listening to reason ... there's plenty of people who would have thrown a hissy fit over someone daring to question content on "their" page. And to respond to one point you made - yes, Wikipedia is uncensored. But it's an uncensored encyclopedia. Not MySpace, not a forum, not a Big Pulpit O' Hate. Removing unencyclopedic junk isn't censorship. Best, Proto///type 15:18, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

hey

hey that's nice sorry for your money... I liked your userpage, the french thing kinda bothered me but I have to agree, I agreed with most of what you said... and i thought it was pretty funny! take careAbdelkweli 15:39, 30 June 2006 (UTC) hope you'll accept the barnstar. Btw i was roting for the US, this last pk was freakin bullshit!!

user page

hey i was editing the usa national team page and clicked your name and read your userpage, i think its kind of funny, I don't agree with a lot of what you say (i love john kerry!), but i do think its funny. FordTuffinIt 18:00, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

3RR block

Please note: Everything written below, aside from my well thought out comment, is utter bullsh*t. Apparently, when you're reverting vandalism from pages, regardless of what the 3RR clearly says about it, you get blocked. Not only was the stuff I was deleting from the pages bullsh*t, but so was the block. Thus, i'm waging my personal battle now to let everyone know that it's apparently ok to add bullsh*t to wikipedia articles, because when well meaning editors remove it, they'll just get blocked.

The three revert policy requires that all parties in a mutual 3RR violation be treated equally. Accordingly I have blocked you for 12 hours in reference to your part in the Lukas Podolski edit war. --CBD 10:04, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Welp, then I think that's bullshit and from now on when I see clear vandalism on pages i'll just leave it. You people are the reason well meaning editors leave this website. Batman2005 17:49, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

{{unblock}} - CBDunkerson, at the time, to the best of my knowledge, I was following the vandalism policy for reverting what I saw as simple vandalism under the "inserting misinformation" into articles. Several others before me edited the Lukas Podolski page to remove the information, and provided proof that it was false (i.e. he never sings the national anthem before games), that I kept removing that ultimately got me blocked. After several requests for sources the other two users kept inserting the dubious information without sources, blatantly disregarding the requests. That in my opinion is blatant vandalism and after looking at the simple vandalism page, I deemed that it was misinformation. If you actually feel that blocking me for 12 hours is the correct course of action that's fine, obviously theres nothing I can do but strongly disagree with it. I do think, however, that William M. Connoelly was correct in only issuing a warning with my promise that I don't intend to get sucked into this type of nonsense again. I'll await your response and ask that you assume I was acting in good faith an reverting only what I saw as vandalism under WP:VAND. Batman2005 14:50, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Because opinions as to what is 'nonsense' differ widely only changes which any reader can see were clearly intended to damage the encyclopedia are considered 'vandalism'. Anything short of that should be dealt with without resorting to edit warring. See the dispute resolution procedures for info on how to proceed in such cases. --CBD 00:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't care what you say, repeatedly inserting dubious information is vandalism. I think your blocking of me was unfair. You call it edit warring, but I call it removing bullshit from pages, had an admin done something about my report in a timely fasion, then none of this would have happened, as it is though, I do the right thing and end up getting blocked. see bullshit. Batman2005 02:46, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I saw your edits on the Lukas Podolski page and totally agree with you. All you did was removing vandalism. --Splette ^Talk 03:06, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

For your words of support on WP:ANI. On seeing your talk page, it is apparent you have had a few scuffles and bumps adjusting to the Wikipedia way of doing things, so it is especially nice to know that I have not added to your diffculties. - KillerChihuahua^?!? 01:03, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Ronaldo

Just a heads-up on the Ronaldo article. You're close to violating the WP:3RR rule in regards to the Birgit Prinz additions to the article. Make sure you work to build a consensus on the talk page as is being done (currently it's too early to say there's a consensus either way). Metros232 21:23, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

To make you aware, I have reported you [1] for violating the 3RR on Ronaldo. You were warned and your 5 reverts in 24 hours (and 6 in 28 hours) warrants reporting. Metros232 22:42, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Pirates name

Just saw that, thanks. I'd only looked at the PotC3 page a couple of days ago and it wasn't there; it will help other editors if you include in the edit summary something like "link to source on that page" or words to that effect. Thanks again! :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 18:51, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Pirate Name 3

OK Look i'm not saying that USA Today is not a reputable source. The reason I changed it is because until Disney releases an official name for the movie, it is not "At World's End" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.110.230.150 (talk • contribs)

2006 FIFA World Cup crime concerns

I think this article needs the "conclusion" or maybe we don't even need the entire article - I think it could be deleted because nothing of this information is relevant for the future or worth remembering, because nothing happend which is special. I think it is very sad that there is no article about the culture events of the World Cup but about sinister things "over-emphasised by the media" that could have happend - but never happened. I as a German feel even a little bit offended or at least sad that you will find in the English Wikipedia always such unimportant (things never happened are unimportend) "facts" about Germany in the context of rasism. The only reason why this is in the media all the time is the remembrance of World War II, am I right? In the current years for example you will find even more problems wiht rasism in Italy but you can be sure that there is no article about it in the article about the Olympic Winter Games in Turin 2006. If you make article which tells extensivly about speculations which crimes could have happend than you have at least also to tell (and not only in one sentense) how it was in reality - all in all (for sure there are always special bad cases) the total opposite. If the article stays like it is today I will put in the BBC- quote again. --Knarf-bz 06:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC) - By the way - all English and American people I meet in Germany in the time of the World Cup have been filled wiht enthusiasm about the open, multicultural and peaceful World Cup, but if the informations the English Wikipedia have about it will stay like they are future readers will definitly have a wrong idea albout how the World Cup was. If you have articles like this you should at least also make a article ablout the culture events of the World Cup (there is plenty of stuff in the German Wikipedia) to paint a more objektiv picture of the World Cup. I would like to do it but my English skills are not so good. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knarf-bz (talk • contribs)

Maybe you are right, but nevertheless the article like it is now is also only based on some media news articles and has no practical relevance (at least not for the World Cup). It is all about speculations. And in the end about speculations which never came true. Why do you think that this [2] article (which is quoted- Maybe it is interesting but in the end it has nothing to do with the reality of the World Cup 2006) is more verifiable than claimes of the German interior minister. () There are much sorces in the internet, you will find hundreds, if you want statistics about crimes compared to other events, informations about how tourists experienced the World Cup. I myself are not able to chance it because I have problems with my English skills, but my English is good enough to recognize that this is more a selction of negativ sources and no one in the English Wikipedia cares for the positiv about the World Cup (I have recognized this in many articles related to Germany or German people). In my opinion this is a very useless article and sould be deleted. If such articles stay in the Englsih Wikipedia I not wonder why it has so much articles. 4 or 5 sentences in the main article is more than enough in an Enzyclopedia - Wikipedia is still a Enzyclopedia? A selction of one kind of sources (even if these ar verifiable) is not a neutral POV. --Knarf-bz 15:23, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Blanking pages..

I wont warn you with a boiler plate; However please dont blank content from pages in the future, if you have any grivences with the content use the talk page. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 15:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

If you wish to propose removals from The O.C. page please propose it on that talk page, thanks/But as the info is cited it is unlikely it will be removed. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 20:44, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I did assume good faith, thus why you were not given a boiler plate, i also could of used me revert (vandal) button. I did not however as i did assume good faith. You however are failing to assume good faith in my messages. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 22:33, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I do not obey orders, Good bye. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 22:48, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

^^ That Guy. He says that "blanking pages" is moving information from one place in the article to another, in a move discussed before he ever edited the page in the first place. Wow. Some people. Batman2005 21:24, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Meanie!

You just despies ZAc Efroon and Freddy Adu and Raven-Symone because they arrre actually up to date, unlike you. What is hell? Isn't that the place where .... God damn lives? i AM FROM cROATIA! I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW TO SPEAK GOOD INGLISH AND HOVV VVIKIPEDIA VVORKS!--User:Lindsay1980

Fan sites

Nonetheless, at one point, there were multiple fan sites listing there. Notability of the site should be remarked upon at its side so people don't think its just another random fan site from the Internet; it should be noted that that is the primary one. In my experience, I've been told that its best looked upon if fan sites are only included if they are directly endorsed by the person the article is about (Katharine McPhee has one such listing for example), else they are just viewed as excessive vanity. Just saying "(fan site)" next to the link isn't enough. I could go out and find fifty right now if I wanted to; just be sure to note that site's particular relevance. Unless it's noted, the site just looks like another random fan site. Do you understand? Michael 19:29, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: this comment

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. --LBMixPro^{<Speak|on|it!>} 21:52, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

John Wayne Troll

I contacted Levid37 about the troll a month ago, but I just thought you might want to know (since you have been doing battle with him most recently) that the John Wayne troll was vandalizing the Tom Atkins (actor) page in much the same way that he is now vandalizing the Wayne page.

About two months ago, he was completely obsessed with stating that Tom Atkins is gay and had a male lover who died fairly recently, despite the fact that there is no evidence supporting either assertion. He uses the same MO every time. He never cites anything credible and hysterically accuses anyone who reverts his edits of racism/fascism/homophobia/whatever. He has just shifted his focus to Wayne.

Sullenspice 12:25, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Seriously. Even by troll standards, he stands out as an enormous asshole. I had it out with him on the Atkins article talk page, and afterwards more people joined in to revert him. Eventually, he gave up when Will BeBack and another admin locked it down to prevent him from vandalizing. Thus far it seems to have worked for the Atkins page. Unfortunately, he just goes somewhere else.

Also, his choice of targets suggests he has unresolved daddy issues.

Sullenspice 16:08, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Here we go again with this fuckwit.

Sullenspice 20:12, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Musicians Article guidelines

Because of you interest in th past, you input is welcome here.--Esprit15d 17:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Sigma Phi

Dude, the comment about Sigma Phi necessitating a change is speculative and conjecture and should not be included. This may or may not have been the case. There are two Kappa Alphas currently in existence, and obviously one was founded before the other. Just because another one already existed doesn't mean a change would have had to occur. The reason for the change was the stealing of the ritual, and that's all that should be listed.

Exactly! One has become known as Kappa Alpha Order and the other Kappa Alpha Fraternity. But they both use the letters KA. Sigma Phi is officially known as Sigma Phi Society. Sigma Phi founded by the seven who eventully changed the name to Sigma Chi could have continued on as the Sigma Phi Order or Sigma Phi Fraternity. The assumption that the name would have changed if the theft of the ritual had not occurred is erroneous and unfounded. It could be up for philosophical debate, but has no place in an encyclopedia.

Thanks for taking care of Sigma Chi

I'm really glad to see that things are cooking along on that page. I'm glad that we can have a very Wiki-friendly article that maintains the integrity of the fraternity while closely adhering to the policies here. Cheers man, good luck Firedancer414 20:50, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Not gonna lie, I posted a lot of the stuff you cleaned up for me. Thanks and IHSV. ASigIAm213

In Hoc; I made a Sigma Chi userbox; feel free to use it: {{User Sigma Chi}} Scoutersig 15:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Editing reader

An admin you trust ;-)? I've permablocked the user as vandalism-only account. Next time, please use WP:PAIN; also, a warning template like {{NPA}} should have been given. Happy editing. Btw, would you like to have the protection of your user-page lifted? Lectonar 15:48, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Funny

"it wasn't courageous, he didn't do it while charging into a burning hosue to save orphaned prematurely delivered babies"

That was the funniest thing on Wikipedia I ever seen. LOL License2Kill 04:35, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if my edit comment sounded a little harsh on article Crips

Sorry I didnt mean to sound so harsh on my edit comment for the Crips, I just thought that was your opinion on the matter, when I read what wrote I thought it might have come off unfriendly. Anyways Stanley Williams is considered co-founder to the Crips. I added a citation: http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/12/13/williams.execution/. Person can still be considered a co-founder even if he was not there at the very beginning. For example if a person joins early on and contributes a great deal to the structure and foundation of an organization, as is the case with Stanley Williams. Cheers. Valoem ^talk 07:35, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

• Stanley Tookie Williams was viewed as a co-founder because of his leadership skills. He was the primary force that spread the Crips across the state which in turn spread across the nation. Also my article does back the fact that he is a co-founder. Right under the title it says "Crips gang co-founder put to death for 4 murders". Valoem ^talk 01:22, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

• • Oh ok, I understand, however I did write he is "generally acknowledged" which is true, even though he may not actually be a co-founder. I think that fits both purposes. Cheers :) Valoem ^talk 17:34, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Gregg Berhalter

At last, the real user comes out from behind his IP address. I think that your rant in what is supposed to be a Neutral summary of your position is indicative of your failure to follow Wikipedia policy. Again, your stubborn refusal to offer any concrete alternative is a demonstration of your bad faith. Alansohn 04:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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User Page

Like your user page found you by reading the discussion page of John Wayne. Glad you dished it out to that troll. After reading your page and hearing from others off site. Ive come to find this eutopia of wiki has a very dark side I didn't know was there. Doing what they ask can get you in trouble (that 3rr thing). As they say no good deed goes unpunished. Apparently that really holds true here. I'd like to ask you some wiki questions Ive used it for a couple years but just recently got a username and participated. Is the only way to do that on this page? Keep up the good work --Xiahou 02:22, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Your user page is tight! 74.132.172.179 21:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Columbus divisive because of genocide?

Hi, Batman2005. You have again taken the "divisiveness because of genocide" sentence out of Christopher Columbus due to a supposed lack of evidence. But I've already noted nine different references on the talk page. Have you seen them? It is really easy to find evidence that Columbus is divisive. Joshua Davis 20:24, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I posted that just as you were reverting your edit. No problem. Cheers. Joshua Davis 20:26, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

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Red link removal

When I am creating articles, I sometimes wikilink a word or name to remind myself that I want to create an article for that item or person or concept or group, etc. eventually also. If they become "un-redded" then I lose my reminder. Cool user page otherwise. Sorry about your unfortunate experiences with over-zealous administrators.Markisgreen 12:18, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Naptown

It appears that they reached a consensus on including Naptown on the Indianapolis, Indiana page about a year ago. It's been in that article since then, and there's a lengthy discussion on the talk page. I invite you, again, to take part in that discussion.

Ad hominem attacks on people who use the name "Naptown" are not relevant to including it in the article--it doesn't really matter that only fools use the name "Naptown" to refer to Indianapolis, the world is so full of fools that we should fear that "Naptown" would become the official name of the town if it were put to a vote. Gruber76 13:42, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Adu

Despite your insistance that I was uncivil, every post made by me was civil and on the topic of hand. You meanwhile made several ad hominem attacks and were the definition of uncivil in your argument. Your discussion page shows that this is FAR from the first time you have been accused of being insulting. It also isn't the first time you've been accused of hiding behind an IP address.

As for your embarrassment, it comes from your blindness, you were convinced you were having an argument with me when you in fact weren't. I reverted your initial edits because you made them from a POV standpoint "(i think it's safe to say that Adu has fallen from the pedestal which everyone put him on)" I was the first person in the discussion to propose radically changing the article to it's current form. You wanted to change the wording. I was the first to propose preferably removing all opinion based statements regardless of who it's by, to fit with other articles on athletes.

You continued to embarrass yourself with the comments on European teams. I said Adu played well against Real Madrid you said that he didn't play "THAT well" all I said was that he played well, which he did. You then said no one else was impressed by his play against Celtic. I then linked to a Celtic supporters page, where they were so impressed by Adu they thought he was too good to play for their team. You then said that there's a huge difference between a supporter and a coach. Where the coach part came from i don't know (though the Celtic coach did say that D.C. United blew them off the field with their energy) you said no one was impressed by Adu against Celtic, I proved you wrong, and then you prtended you were arguing something else. That's embarrassing. Equally embarassing was your attempt to call me uncivil during the discussion. The irony is huge, it is also very clear that I was being completely civil during the discussion, and have been (unlike you) consistently civil on Wikipedia.

The page is not a message board for your insults and trolling Drsmoo 04:48, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

HAHAHAHAHAHA, THIS GUY IS COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL! HE LOSES AN ARGUMENT OVER HIS FAVORITE SOCCER PLAYER AND HE TRIES TO SHIFT BLAME... WOW! Drsmoo, that's one of the, if not the funniest thing i've ever read on wikipedia.Batman2005 04:52, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

You see what's massively ironic is there wasn't an argument to begin with. I was the who proposed changing the article to its present state. And I did it. There also wasn't an article about whether the line was POV, which is why I changed it. What there was an argument about was (off topic by you) whether Celtic fans were impressed by Adu. You were proven wrong there. Like a characteristic delusional you imagined what my point of view was, or what I was saying, even though your view was completely at odds with what I actually wrote. Just as you continue ad-hominem attacks. Drsmoo 04:59, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Drsmoo, I am bored with you and the nonsense that flows from your fingers on these pages. If it helps you to sleep at night to think that you weren't completely and totally overwhelmed and proven wrong by every single other person who posted on that page...then so be it. Batman2005 05:01, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Lol, you did see that the other users were congratulating me at the end of the discussion right? Enjoy your view?Drsmoo 05:03, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

yeah for FINALLY getting it through your obviously thick skull that the sentence you were fighting so hard to leave in...was in-fact pov....even after you argued that it was not. I think they were congratulating you on actually understanding the simplest of concepts.Batman2005 05:05, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Had you actually read the discussion you would see that I agreed that it was POV from the start. However, you were to busy gearing up for a fight to see that there was no argument other than the ones you desperately tried to create.Drsmoo 05:14, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Drsmoo, I would like to refer you to your "report" against me, and my response therein. This discussion is over. Batman2005 05:16, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Isaac M. Jordan

I noticed you took off the placement of his real name (Isaac Alfred Jordan) on his page. I do have a source for it, but it is not on the internet. I don't know if you would be able to find it but the older version of the Norman Shield (1967 edition) has it. Acidskater 19:57, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

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John Wayne vandal

He's back. See WP:ANI#homophobia and vandalism ·:· Will Beback ·:· 00:02, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Zac Efron

As the person who added that quote from Adam Shankman - I just wanted to demonstrate Efron's status as more or less the leading teen idol in America at the moment, and that was the most neutral way I could think of. I have no particular attachment to that quote by Shankman otherwise (can't speak for User:Malevious), but I do want to have something in the lead (something sourced) that would attest to the fact that he is a major teen idol, since that seems to be fairly important to his notability. Can you think of a good replacement? Mad Jack 17:12, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, I generally agree with what you said, but the point I was trying to get across is that the article should convey Efron's status as big teen star and the like, since this is a critical part of his notability. The "Adam Shankman quote" is one way of doing it, and evidently, not the best way. Mad Jack 04:11, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I beg to differ for some of your examples. For instance, Jack Nicholson's opening states: "A household name across the globe, he is considered to be one of the greatest actors of all time" (considered by who?). Clooney's states ""A-List" movie star in contemporary American cinema". Cruise's notes "Counted as one of the most successful movie stars in Hollywood" (counted by who?). I'm not talking about the quality of Efron's acting, anyway, that is a whole different matter, I'm talking about the fact that is he is so popular in a certain demographic, something that is very critical to his notability and thus should go in the opening - in some form - explicitly. Mad Jack 16:07, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, if a person doesn't know anything about Jack Nicholson, it's probably very crucial to include his status as such a major actor in the opening. But anyway, getting to specifics, like I said, I don't know about Malevious, but I'm not too attached to that Adam Shankman quote in the Efron article. But how would you adjust the Efron opening to indicate his "status"? Mad Jack 17:46, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I know that "we" don't make the conclusion, but you can source a Nicholson- or Clooney-type line like that to a multitude of reliable media publications. Mad Jack 05:35, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I think the bottom line is - how would you write the Efron opening to "show" rather than "state" his particular line of notability? Mad Jack 06:22, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, you said "Cruises page could easily SHOW that he's one of the most successful in hollywood by presenting facts (seven straight $100 million earning films)", so how would Efron's page show the same (in his opening paragraph, specifically)? I think we should come up with something along those lines and replace the current opening with this. Mad Jack 17:25, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

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Sam Hewson

I've reinstated the text on this page, but flagged it with db-copyvio and the relevant URL - I may be wrong, but speedy delete would be a better way of getting rid of the offending article than just blanking it? Giles Bennett ^{(Talk, Contribs)} 10:43, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Notability wouldn't be criteria for a speedy though - db-bio could fit, but the article does at least claim notability, so it would probably fail. I'm not sure about the necessity of removing copyvio text pending deletion, as I generally haven't bothered in the past. Leaving the text there makes it easier for an administrator to see the violation, rather than having to trawl through the history of the page to find and compare the original and the borrowed, and I don't think that there would necessarily be any legal implications in leaving the text there so long as it has been flagged as a copy vio. Giles Bennett ^{(Talk, Contribs)} 10:50, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

3RR violation to John Paul II

Perhaps you didn't realize it, but you have violated the 3RR rule in Pope John Paul II. The edit conflict seems to have begun with your deletion of the titles. An editor reverted, as did I on other occassions, disagreeing with the deletion. Not to get into the content dispute, but it is clearly not vandalism you are reverting, but rather other editors' disagreements with your edit. I would like to give you the opportunity to undo your last revert before someone reports your 3RR violation. Then maybe we can resolve the issue in the talk page. --Anietor 03:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

LA Galaxy

The LA Galaxy will never, so far as I am aware, play in the 'old' kit again, so I feel the change was appropriate. Also, on the shopadidas.com website, the David Beckham Home Jersey item, clearly includes the name Beckham with the number 23. Highly unlikely that the Galaxy would allow this if they planned to give another number. I've reverted your reverts, based on these arguments. Please don't change them back, I don't want an edit war over this. mpbx 18:06, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

^^^ This is a new one people. A guy actually trying to justify violating wikipedia policy and being a crystal ball.Batman2005 19:44, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

infact you were correct. the website i posted was their "beta" page, it isn't the official site. i don't think. sorry bout the shouting. Squadoosh 21:31, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

lol, looks like i don't know what i'm talking about. i think I was right, they seem to be tinkering with their website as we speak, we can give it some time i'll leave it up to you to decide what to do. sorry again. Squadoosh 21:33, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Landon Donovan

Yeah, when you changed it, I was thinking that I probably made a mistake, but I had to check to see, and he's listed as a forward on their site. Makes sense, really, because I feel like he doesn't play as a midfielder for the national team any more. Che84 01:43, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Manchester United F.C. players

I would prefer it if, in your edit summaries, you wouldn't make it seem like I've committed some cardinal sin. The description of the category says it is for "footballers who have played for Manchester United". To me, that sounds like it means that the player must have played a match for the club before they can be included in the category. I have already had this discussion with ArtVandelay13, so I'd prefer it if you would remain civil please. - PeeJay 14:14, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

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Issues

You seem like a very bitter person. Were you abused as a child? - PeeJay 21:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)