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*'''[[:Labour Party (Netherlands)]] → [[:Partij van de Arbeid]]''' — The party is called 'Partij van de Arbeid'. Though Labour Party is the English translation, that is not what the Dutch party is called. —[[User:JackSparrow Ninja|JackSparrow Ninja]] 00:23, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


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*'''[[:Labour Party (Netherlands)]] → [[:Partij van de Arbeid]]''' (''[[{{{4|Talk}}}:Labour Party (Netherlands)#Requested move|Discuss]]'') — The party is called 'Partij van de Arbeid'. Though Labour Party is the English translation, that is not what the Dutch party is called. —[[User:JackSparrow Ninja|JackSparrow Ninja]] 00:23, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
*:Moved from uncontroversial because I oppose the move. — <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;">[[User talk:AjaxSmack|<font style="color:#fef;background:navy;">'''&nbsp;AjaxSmack&nbsp;'''</font>]]</span> 01:38, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
*'''[[:Edgar_Dean_Mitchell]] → [[:Edgar_Mitchell]]''' —(''[[{{{4|Talk}}}:Edgar_Dean_Mitchell#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Article title should simply be his first name, last name to be consistent with similarly named astronaut articles (see Eugene Cernan request below}. —[[User:BartBenjamin|Bart]] 22:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
*'''[[:Edgar_Dean_Mitchell]] → [[:Edgar_Mitchell]]''' —(''[[{{{4|Talk}}}:Edgar_Dean_Mitchell#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Article title should simply be his first name, last name to be consistent with similarly named astronaut articles (see Eugene Cernan request below}. —[[User:BartBenjamin|Bart]] 22:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
*'''[[:John_Watts_Young]] → [[:John_Young]]''' —(''[[{{{4|Talk}}}:John_Watts_Young#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Article title should simply be his first name, last name to be consistent with similarly named astronaut articles (see Eugene Cernan request below}. —[[User:BartBenjamin|Bart]] 22:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
*'''[[:John_Watts_Young]] → [[:John_Young]]''' —(''[[{{{4|Talk}}}:John_Watts_Young#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Article title should simply be his first name, last name to be consistent with similarly named astronaut articles (see Eugene Cernan request below}. —[[User:BartBenjamin|Bart]] 22:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.

Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.

Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:

  • Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
  • Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
  • A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
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Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus to move the page is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will carry out the request. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved". When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion may be closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.

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Undiscussed moves

Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:

  • No article exists at the new target title;
  • There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
  • It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.

If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.

Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.

Uncontroversial proposals

Only list here proposals that are clearly uncontroversial but require administrator help to complete. Things like capitalization and spelling mistakes would be appropriate here. If there is any prior discussion as to the name of the article please link to it. If there is any possibility that the proposed page move could be opposed by anyone, do not list it in this section. If the move location appears as a red link you should be able to move the article using the move button of the top of the article's page and don't need to use this page

Please use {{subst:WP:RM2|Old page name|Requested name|Reason for move}} for uncontroversial moves only; do not copy, paste, and edit previous entries. No dated sections are necessary, and no templates on the article's talk page are necessary.

If your request was not fulfilled, and was removed from this section, please relist it in the other proposals section below.


  • Copper BeltCopperbelt — whether referring to the name of the Zambian province specifically or to the mining area of Zambia/Katanga in general, the spelling is one word. You never see it as two words in the Copperbelt towns. Google searches throw up 4 times as many pages for 'Copperbelt' as 'Copper Belt' and most of the latter pages refer to belts made of copper or copper mining areas in Vermont and Arizona. I tried to rename the page to 'Copperbelt' but someone has already redirected a page of that name "Copper Belt" and I can't do it. User:Rexparry sydney 07:15, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Nonetheless, any future modifications of this guideline should be implemented only after consensus for the change has been achieved.

Previous discussions

A short list of discussions from 2004 and 2005 is at Wikipedia talk:Risk disclaimer/Archive 1 § More disclaimer templates. Some older discussions are at Wikipedia talk:Risk disclaimer or in the templates for deletion archives.

See also

Talk page disclaimer templates

Other proposals

All of the proposals listed below need to have a discussion set up on talk page of the article to be moved. Please use the template {{subst:WP:RM|Old Page Name|Requested name|Reason for move}} and, if necessary, create a new dated section.

I'm not sure how the article about Gemini and Apollo astronaut Eugene Cernan get to be called by his full first-middle-last name in the first place. Neil Armstrong's article is just Neil Armstrong. Alan Bean's article is just Alan Bean. Alan Shepard's article is just Alan Shepard. I strongly recommend that the entire article about Eugene Cernan be transferred to Eugene Cernan and that the Eugene Andrew Cernan page either be made a redirect page or deleted entirely.

  • ForensicsForensic science —(Discuss)— I cannot do the move because a redirect page of the desired name exists (but there is no Talk page in the way of this move). The current name is ambiguous because the primary definition of the word "forensics" has a different meaning, while the widely used term "forensic science" has a clear and unambiguous meaning. Indeed, the article starts off by attempting to justify the use of word "forensics". I proposed this move on Talk:Forensics; one other user supported it and there was no opposition. —orlady 18:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Trinity College, DublinTrinity College Dublin —(Discuss)— The version without a comma is correct (as college authorities have corrected me on this matter). I know that the Acts of Parliament used the comma in the past, but I think it is be a relic. The official college branding omits the comma (TCD Trademark Policy, Procedures for trademark usage). This is confused by the fact that a Google search for TCD yields a link with a description including the comma, but I trust the official documentation over the web-developers' implementation. There are several instances where the comma can be justified; specifically, I think when the context is clear and it is called "Trinity College", the addition of Dublin after a comma to denote place in a caption is acceptable (just like "Irish Museum of Modern Art, Dublin" or "CN Tower, Toronto." I believe this distinction is an important one to make if we are after accuracy, and I think that the page should be renamed. —03:50, 29 January 2007 (UTC)Jonnny7
  • Sara RamírezSara Ramirez —(Discuss)— Clearly the wrong name under Wikipedia naming conventions. The editors of this article got into a big squabble about not having proper sourcing for the fact that a character she plays known as "Callie" had the full name "Calliope", insisting on reliable sources, but there are absolutely no sources, never have been, reliable or otherwise, for this "Sara Ramírez" spelling. She is clearly not only best known in English, but almost always known in English as "Sara Ramirez". She is known as "Sara Ramirez" on her own web site cited in the article. She is known as "Sara Ramirez" in all four other sources cited in the article, the Internet Movie Database, the Internet Broadway Database, the TV.com site, and the Yahoo! Movies site. There is "credited as" alternatives listed in the IMDB listing, something routinely done there. As it stands now, there is nothing to even indicate any legitimacy in including the Ramírez as a variant spelling in the intro, let alone for using it in the rest of the text or for it occupying the one slot available for the article's name. —Gene Nygaard 03:17, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • CoritaniCorieltauvi —(Discuss)— Inscription evidence discovered about twenty years ago (as mentioned in the article), suggests the correct form of this tribal name is Corieltauvi (currently a redirect). This is now generally accepted and Coritani is only used in older works. The key articles on the subject are Tomlin's 'Roman Leicester, a Corrigendum: For Coritani should we read Corieltauvi?' in Transactions of the Leicester Archaeological & Historical Society 48 and 'Non Coritani sed Corieltauvi' in the Antiquaries' Journal 63 (both 1983) —Walgamanus 22:23, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Konstantinas SirvydasConstantinus Szyrwid —(Discuss)— The person in question has at least two names in modern use: the Lithuanian name of Konstantinas Sirvydas and the Polish name of Konstanty Szyrwid. That's quite typical for people of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth who were either of mixed ancestry or simply used both Polish and their local language (be it Lithuanian, Ruthenian, Russian or any Tatar languages). However, in this context it seems that the person in question did not know the Lithuanian name and it was coined long after he was dead, just to make him sound more Lithuanian.
    Half a year ago I asked for some documents to back up the current title of that page, specifically a single instance of usage of Konstantinas Sirvydas. However, no sources have been provided. Instead I was able to find two original issues of books by the person and it seems he himself was using the Polish version of his surname (Szyrwid)[1][2]. However, as Polish names seem to be problematic to some modern Lithuanians, I suggest to move it to his Latin name instead. This way both the Poles and Lithuanians shouls be happy. Besides, when using Google Books Szyrwid beats Sirvydas at least 3:1, even if we include certain Donna M. Sirvydas, a renown dentist of the same surname. //Halibutt 15:32, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Al-KindiTalk:Al-Kindī —(Discuss)— There is a discussion on the Talk page, but it's stalled. The main argument against sdepends upon a claim that "al-Kindi" is the more common form, but appeals to Googled evidence by an editor who now admits that he can't actually look at the relevant evidence. Since then, no-one has contributed. More eyes and discussion would be welcome. —Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 12:45, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Asif Iqbal (detainee)Asif Iqbal (Guantanamo detainee 87) —(Discuss)— This article was previously named Asif Iqbal (Guantanamo detainee 87). This is consistent with several dozen other Guantanamo captives. Many of those Guantanamo captive's names collided with the names of other Guantanamo captives. I gave the rest of them similar names, for consistency and predictability. Another wikipedian thought Asif Iqbal (Guantanamo detainee 87) was too verbose. I felt this name failed to provide enough details to distinguish this individual from other Asif Iqbals who were also prisoners. The other wikipedian disputed that this was likely to ever be a problem. But it turned out that there was another Asif Iqbal imprisoned because he was suspected of terrorism. So, I believe the article should be restored to the previous name. — Geo Swan 21:09, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Main PagePortal:Main page —(Discuss)— Not an article, is a portal, contradicts Wikipedia's policy. Only reason last one closed is because of WP:NOT (as in democracy) and the RM was flawed with confusion about whether it would be at Wikipedia:Main page or Portal:Main page. While this move is highly controversial, it needs to be done as to prevent contradiction to Wikipedia policy. This will not create hundreds of broken links - not many pages redirect to Main Page any way and bots can fix redirects over time. —09:16, 11 January 2007 (UTC)--HamedogTalk|@
    Relisting; discussion is ongoing. -GTBacchus(talk) 07:51, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ishin NishioNisio Isin —(Discuss)— While Ishin Nishio follows Wikipedia's naming conventions, this author's penname was designed to be a palindrome, and appeared as Nisio Isin on the copyright page at the back of his novels. It is his legal, official romanized name, and should not be spelled in any other fashion. —Doceirias 02:03, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Backlog

Move dated sections here after five days have passed.

  • Iron maiden (disambiguation)iron maiden —(Discuss)— Move originally proposed as uncontroversial by M3tal H3ad with reason: "Moved this page after reading the discussion on it (should be Iron maiden), need an admins help to remove it back, thanks." Uncontroversial nature of the move contested by myself, with reason "There's a clear controversy about this move on the article's talk page, with the previous request closed as "No Consensus". It should be discussed through the normal channels.", and PC78 with reason "You'd need to re-open the debate for this one." Debate moved to "Controversial" secton by GTBacchus. This is a procedural completion of the formal nomination process. —Tevildo 16:55, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mario LópezMario Lopez —(Discuss)— Official website uses his name without an accent. While other sources (IMDB, TV.com, etc.) include the accent, if his official site doesn't stylize his name that way, that could be considered definitive. Another editor has removed all instances of the accent in the article. —Tinlinkin 10:57, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disaster filmDisaster movie —(Discuss)— These are commonly know as Disaster movies. Some editors want to impose the guideline name for individual films which says to use film. However this guideline does not apply to, nor should it, to genre classes of films. This should be moved to the same name as the category to end any confusion. —Vegaswikian 00:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think we're done now, I summarized the result above. Markussep 18:07, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]