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Hello!So we know PewDiePie is one of the fastest growing channels on Youtube and therefore I came across a problem - In the semi-protected region of the article it says he has 34 million subscribers(which now is 34.8 million subscribers) and as of Feburary 2015 he had 7.9 billion views(which now is 8 billion).So, I suggest to change them to the latest references/details. Thank You! <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Komchi|Komchi]] ([[User talk:Komchi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Komchi|contribs]]) 15:41, 28 February 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
Hello!So we know PewDiePie is one of the fastest growing channels on Youtube and therefore I came across a problem - In the semi-protected region of the article it says he has 34 million subscribers(which now is 34.8 million subscribers) and as of Feburary 2015 he had 7.9 billion views(which now is 8 billion).So, I suggest to change them to the latest references/details. Thank You! <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Komchi|Komchi]] ([[User talk:Komchi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Komchi|contribs]]) 15:41, 28 February 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Lack of an image
Why does this article not have an image, correct me if I'm wrong on this cause I don't often upload images but wouldn't it be appropriate to print screen one of his videos and upload it? Or is there an issue with that? SilentDan (talk) 11:36, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- Wikipedia only accepts free images, a screenshot of a video is not free and would be deleted. Look at Wikipedia:Image use policy for help. There is no image at the moment, as there are no free ones available.--JacktheHarry (talk) 18:03, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Archives / largest
I see an archive box, but i can't find any archived talk pages. Anyway, isn't his youtube the largest? It is on all stats sites (like this one), but i don't know if those are valid recources. PizzaMan (♨♨) 16:18, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Done - I've set up the archive with MiszaBot & added link to prev archive :), Cheers, –Davey2010 • (talk) 18:27, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
pronunciation
anyone have any videos where he says his name?--JacktheHarry (talk) 18:05, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
- There were his "Fridays" videos where he says it, particularly: "I GOOGLE MYSELF" and "ARE YOU A BRO"? NFLisAwesome 17:30, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 5 November 2014
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at the end of 19 million subscribers put now in 2014 he has 30 million subscribers this is 2014
208.108.215.108 (talk) 17:02, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Not done - unless I'm missing something it was already updated back in September/October? –Davey2010 • (talk) 17:45, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
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Hi all, I noticed there are 2 areas that are either incomplete or awkward in structure. However, the article is semi-protected and this is a new account so I can't fix them myself. In particular, they are:
"PewDiePie's channel is under Polaris, a gaming network, part of Maker Studios, a multi-channel network that drives the growth of the channels under it.[63][64][65][66] His channel also appeals strongly to younger viewers, a group Google refers to as Generation C for their habits of "creation, curation, connection and community".[63] Other articles have documented that 95% of gamers engage in watching online videos related to gaming, providing further insight on PewDiePie's rise in popularity on the internet.[57][67]
In October 2014, PewDiePie began hinting at the possibility that he may not renew his contract with Maker Studios, once it ends in December 2014.[68] Reports that covered this information also added that PewDiePie expressed his frustrations with Maker the studio's parent company, Disney; PewDiePie was quoted saying, "The fact that Disney bought Maker Studios doesn’t really change anything for me. If I ask for help, they reply, but that’s all the contact we have. We’ll see what happens."[69] PewDiePie previously expressed his disdain with Machinima, another YouTube network, and their treatment of him.[70] After a legal process departed from the network.[69] Rather than re-sign with Maker, PewDiePie has mulled the option of launching his own network, although he has declined to provide in-depth details on the subject.[61][71] However, in light of news outlets reporting the gamer's disinterest with Maker, PewDiePie tweeted, "I feel like I was misquoted in the WSJ and I'm really happy with the work that Maker has been doing for me."[72]"
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PewDiePie's channel is under Polaris, a gaming network, part of Maker Studios, a multi-channel network that drives the growth of the channels under it.[63][64][65][66] His channel also appeals strongly to younger viewers, a group Google refers to as Generation C for their habits of "creation, curation, connection and community".[63] Other articles have documented that 95% of gamers engage in watching online videos related to gaming, providing further insight on PewDiePie's rise in popularity on the internet.[57][67]
PewDiePie previously expressed his disdain with Machinima, a rival YouTube network that he had been signed with prior to Maker Studios.[70] Feeling frustrated with how Machinima treated him, PewDiePie hired a lawyer to free him from his contract with the network.[69]
In October 2014, PewDiePie began hinting at the possibility that he may not renew his contract with Maker Studios, once it ends in December 2014.[68] Reports that covered this information also added that PewDiePie expressed his frustrations with Maker the studio's parent company, Disney; PewDiePie was quoted saying, "The fact that Disney bought Maker Studios doesn’t really change anything for me. If I ask for help, they reply, but that’s all the contact we have. We’ll see what happens."[69] Rather than re-sign with Maker, PewDiePie has mulled the option of launching his own network, although he has declined to provide in-depth details on the subject.[61][71] However, in light of news outlets reporting the gamer's disinterest with Maker, PewDiePie tweeted, "I feel like I was misquoted in the WSJ and I'm really happy with the work that Maker has been doing for me."[72]
This edit would make the flow of the paragraphs much smoother. As is, it sort of jumps around a bit between talking about Maker to mentioning Machinima before talking about Maker again. Also, this fixes the issue with the fragmented sentence in the original version.
The other edit I suggest making would be:
Beginning in April 2014 and spanning into August, Kjellberg, along with his girlfriend Marzia, began a marketing campaign for the Legendary Pictures film As Above, So Below.[80][81] Kjellberg's videos for the marketing campaign included a miniseries featuring him participating in the "Catacombs Challenge". The challenge involved Kjellberg searching for three keys in the catacombs to open a container holding "the Philosopher's stone."[82] Kjellberg and Bisgonin's videos were able to earn nearly 20 million views.[83] Maker Studios, which PewDiePie and Marzia are signed to, as well as represented by brokered the ad deal between the two and Legendary Pictures.[82]
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Beginning in April 2014 and spanning into August, Kjellberg, along with his girlfriend Marzia, began a marketing campaign for the Legendary Pictures film As Above, So Below.[80][81] Kjellberg's videos for the marketing campaign included a miniseries featuring him participating in the "Catacombs Challenge". The challenge involved Kjellberg searching for three keys in the catacombs to open a container holding "the Philosopher's stone."[82] Kjellberg and Bisgonin's videos were able to earn nearly 20 million views.[83] Maker Studies, which PewDiePie and Marzia are represented by, brokered the ad deal between the two and Legendary Pictures.[82]
The last sentence in the original version appears to be burdened with awkward phrasing. Perhaps this would be better as it flows nicer and doesn't have the added bit of redundancy.
DakotaJM (talk) 16:11, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
American accent
How does a foreigner speak English with no or very little noticeable accent??
The only explanation is that he moved to USA before reaching 12yo--74.58.222.193 (talk) 11:41, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
"Religion = None" vs. "Religion = Agnostic" or "Religion = None (Agnostic)" in infoboxes.
Per WP:BRD and WP:TALKDONTREVERT, This comment concerns this edit and this revert.
(Please note that nobody has a problem with the use of "Agnostic" in the article text. This only concerns infoboxes.)
There are many reasons for not saying "Religion = Agnostic" or "Religion = None (Agnostic)" in Wikipedia infoboxes. They include:
It implies something that is not true
- Saying "Religion = Agnostic" in Wikipedia infoboxes implies that agnosticism is a religion. It is like saying "Hair color = Bald", "TV Channel = Off", "Type of shoe = Barefoot" or "Hobby = not collecting stamps"."
"Religion = None (Agnostic)" is better -- it can be read two different ways, only one of which implies that agnosticism is a religion -- but "Religion = None" is unambiguous.
It is objectionable to many Agnostics.
It goes against consensus
- A similar question regarding atheism was discussed at length at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 142#Changing "Religion = none" to "Religion = Atheist" on BLP infoboxes. Opinions were mixed, but the two positions with the most support were "Religion = None" or removing the Religion entry entirely. More recently, it was discussed at Template talk:Infobox person#Religion means what?, and so far the consensus is for removing the Religion entry entirely. I think it is safe to say that if "Religion = Atheist" and "Religion = None (atheist)" are against consensus, then so are "Religion = Agnostic" and "Religion = None (Agnostic)".
It is unsourced
- If anyone insists on keeping "Religion = Agnostic" or "Religion = None (Agnostic)" in any Wikipedia infobox, they must first provide a citation to a reliable source that established that the individual is [A] An Agnostic, and [B] considers agnosticism to be a religion.
It attempts to shoehorn too much information into a short infobox entry
- In the article, there is room for nuance and explanation, but in the infobox, we are limited to concise summaries of non-disputed material. Terms such as "atheist", "agnostic", "humanist", "areligious", and "anti-religion" mean different things to different people, but "Religion = None" is perfectly clear to all readers, and they can and should go to the article text to find out which of the subtly different variations of not belonging to a religion applies.
It violates the principle of least astonishment.
- Consider what would happen if Lady Gaga decided to list "Banana" as her birth date. We would document that fact in the main article with a citation to a reliable source (along with other sources that disagree and say she was born on March 28, 1986). We would not put "Birth date = Banana" in the infobox, because that would cause some readers to stop and say "wait...what? Banana is not a birth date...". Likewise we should not put anything in an infobox that would cause some readers to stop and say "wait...what? agnosticism is not a religion..."
In my opinion, "Religion = None" is the best choice for representing the data accurately and without bias. I also have no objection to removing the religion entry entirely. --Guy Macon (talk) 00:04, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2014
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Hi l have some news on pewdiepie's youtube channel about the comments. And about the subscribes update (How many subs he got now on Youtube) please answer back as fast as possible thank you //Daniel (bajs12bajs)
Not done: as you have not requested a specific change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 17:15, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2014
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I will put the BroFist logo in the document en a photo of PewDiepie ~Miguel~2000~Teirlinck~ (talk) 20:43, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 21:32, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
Page Move
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I was wondering if you could move this back to "PewDiePie" as his name's not even "Arvid" (it's Felix, Arvid's his middle name}, and obviously the person moving this didn't bother with asking here first, Thanks, –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 15:54, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
- Brilliant Thanks Fuhghettaboutit - Much appreciated, –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 16:04, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
- (e/c– you're too fast!:-) Here's the message I was writing) @Davey2010: Hey Davey. Done. @FLCLFan25: Hi FLCLFan25. This move appears to go against our common names policy as well as other naming considerations, and as such, appears to be a controversial move on its face. See also WP:PSEUDONYM. That does not necessarily mean it is not warranted, but the move should be discussed first through the requested moves process. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:08, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
- Haha sorry :D, Thanks :), Regards, –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 16:23, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
- (e/c– you're too fast!:-) Here's the message I was writing) @Davey2010: Hey Davey. Done. @FLCLFan25: Hi FLCLFan25. This move appears to go against our common names policy as well as other naming considerations, and as such, appears to be a controversial move on its face. See also WP:PSEUDONYM. That does not necessarily mean it is not warranted, but the move should be discussed first through the requested moves process. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:08, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Supernerd11 (talk · contribs) 17:45, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
- I've never reviewed a GAN/FAN before, so if I do anything wrong, feel free to correct me. From what I can tell, this article's pretty good. Looking over the reflist at the end, most of the refs are good (although there's a couple like Facebook used that aren't reliable), and there's few unsourced claims (the first line in "Continued growth (2014-present)", where it mentions that he said that he'd upload less; and the bit in "Becoming the most subscribed user (2013)" where it says that he retook the spotlight). Assuming Tumblr and the other unreliable sources are okay since they only seem to be used for minor things, I'd be all for supporting this. Supernerd11 Firemind ^_^ Pokedex 17:45, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Yoshi24517's suggestions
I've decided to help with this review. Let me know if you want these comments. After all, it is your GAR.
Let's see, Facebook is usually unreliable, as User:Supernerd11 said, so you might want to find some other references to support those areas. There should be an image in the beginning of the article, maybe a picture of him, or maybe his logo on Youtube. (Just saying, anything else works too.)
Punctuation: I found the word "isn't" and if it is not in quotes, then you should probably try to change it so it says "is not."
Let's see, another thing I found is that per WP:MOS, dates shouldn't have -th after them. For example, if there was a date that said January 30th, it should be changed to January 30.
Every little comment was found by the peer reviewer.
Overall: I think this article should be promoted to GA status. @Supernerd11: I know that it is your GAR, so I'll let you decide what to do with this article. Thanks for lettng me provide comments. Yoshi24517Chat Online 23:02, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for commenting on this; it'd been awhile with nobody doing anything here. Going through with Ctrl-F, it appears that someone's already fixed the date and contraction issues, so that's good. There's a picture of his channel logo down, and while it seems odd that it's further down and the
is at the top, it's technically about the person, so that's why it'd be further down. I'm not aware of any CC-BY-SA or free-er images of him specifically, and haven't been able to find any by looking (although I don't do a lot of image work, so there could be some very good websites I'm missing). Also haven't been able to find a better source for the ill-sourced bits. Supernerd11 Firemind ^_^ Pokedex 04:19, 1 March 2015 (UTC)PewDiePie
Tagging to promote: @Supernerd11: Yoshi24517Chat Online 23:56, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
- I apologize for the hiatus, but let's see who else might be interested: Tezero and Sergecross73 probably will, maybe Jaguar and Mdann52? I've worked with Tezero before on some video game-related stuff, I've seen the others in GAN discussions in the same vein as this one. Supernerd11 Firemind ^_^ Pokedex 15:45, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Supernerd11: not sure where you would of seen my name before, I haven't done any GAN's for a while, but here I am :) I've looked through in some detail, and apart from some gen fixes, this looks ready to go to me. Suggest promotion. Mdann52 (talk) 17:21, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
- It's pretty good. I notice a few short paragraphs and some small parts that could be better worded, so I'll take care of that. For future reference, Supernerd, I suggest going through each of the GA criteria individually. The only ones I think any new reviewer who's an experienced editors would really have trouble with are reliable sources and prose quality, in which case I'd suggest just looking at other GAs or asking other editors for input. Tezero (talk) 00:29, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping, though I'm at work at the moment and I can't check through the whole of the article, but from a first glance it seems the prose is looking almost solid enough. I would advise to cut down on some of the citations in the lead per WP:LEADCITE - as it discourages non-controversial information to be cited. I take a unconventional but agreeable approach on focusing on the quality of the prose in contrast to technical points. ☯ Jaguar ☯ 11:53, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
Alright, going through the criteria point-by-point to make sure everything's good:
- No immediate failures (excessive cleanup banners, copyright infringement, or far from satisfying any of the GA criteria):
Done
- Well-written (clear prose and not too wordy, spelling and grammar, MoS guidelines):
Done
- Verifiable (good sourcing, no original research):
Done
- Broad coverage (talks about PewDiePie as a whole, stays focused):
Done
- Neutral (unbiased, due weight given):
Done
- Stable (doesn't change frequently, especially in edit war-like situations:
Done
- Illustrated (has necessary images & properly tagged, not too many graphics): Needs a picture of him (and maybe one or two of something he's done), but I haven't been able to find a free image, so still counts as
Done
Supernerd11 Firemind ^_^ Pokedex 16:16, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Supernerd11: In that case, you may close the review per Wikipedia:Good article nominations/Instructions. Thanks, C679 17:31, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on Feburary 28, 2015
Hello!So we know PewDiePie is one of the fastest growing channels on Youtube and therefore I came across a problem - In the semi-protected region of the article it says he has 34 million subscribers(which now is 34.8 million subscribers) and as of Feburary 2015 he had 7.9 billion views(which now is 8 billion).So, I suggest to change them to the latest references/details. Thank You! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Komchi (talk • contribs) 15:41, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2015
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Hello an new event happened of him and I would like to write it. Thank you!
Empereur42 (talk) 01:32, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. Kharkiv07Talk 01:43, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
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