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Happy editing! -- Brangifer (talk) 23:41, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

November 2013

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• The following is the log entry regarding this message: Plasma cosmology was changed by Orrerysky (u) (t) ANN scored at 0.893005 on 2013-11-23T21:13:18+00:00 . Thank you. ClueBot NG (talk) 21:13, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Plasma cosmology with this edit, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. -download ׀ talk 21:17, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Your recent editing history at Plasma cosmology shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. -- Brangifer (talk) 22:01, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Plasma cosmology. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Administrators have the ability to block users from editing if they repeatedly engage in vandalism. Thank you. -- Brangifer (talk) 22:01, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

See WP:BRD and follow it. Failing to do so is edit warring, and that's a blockable offense. You must discuss and reach a consensus. Do not remove anymore material. -- Brangifer (talk) 22:01, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Advice copied from Arthur Rubin's talk page

This is a copy of my comment in a thread on User:Arthur Rubin's talk page.

Coming from a newbie, that's pretty strong language which reveals a lack of understanding of how Wikipedia works. I've been patient with you. I could have already had you blocked for edit warring. Your attitude is what we call "I didn't hear that," in other words you are not learning from much more experienced editors, even though they have left you warnings, advice, and links to more information. We don't completely rewrite articles here. You don't own the article. It belongs to all editors, and you should show some respect for those who have put time into its creation.

We do want article improvement, so small increments are good for a start, considering you're a newbie. Right now you seem to have no sense of the situation. To illustrate, it's like you're wading into someone else's living room and demanding that they operate their home according to the rules which you use at your home. You're demanding they throw out all their pictures and rearrange their furniture because you don't like it, but you don't know WHY they have arranged their home the way it is. Maybe there is a reason. After all, the rules for interior decorating in their home (Wikipedia) are FAR different from the rules in your home (your website or blog). The rules are totally different here, and if you don't learn them and listen to what we're telling you, you will end up getting blocked. It's that simple. We are very long suffering with newbies, but when they don't listen and learn, we simply get rid of them. Now show a bit of humility and start asking questions instead of making demands.

Let me introduce you to whom you're dealing with right now: Arthur a very distinguished mathematician in real life and is an administrator here (sysop, 89588 edits since: 2005-08-15). I am a Physical Therapist (with a Physician Assistant education besides that) and an ordinary editor who does not wish to be an administrator (autoreviewer, reviewer, rollbacker, 40068 edits since: 2005-12-18). We are both experienced enough to help you, if you'll allow it. Since you will never be allowed to edit alone here, without other editors having a right to watch your every move, comment on your talk page (you do not own it), and revert your edits when there are ANY disagreements, you'd better get used to working with others. Communication and civility are valued here. That's how we work.

When in doubt, or if you meet any resistance, the proper reaction is to back off, ask questions on the talk page, discuss until a consensus is reached, etc.. Never attempt to force/push your POV into the article over the objections of other editors. The resulting article will likely never satisfy you, and that's okay. That's the way it's supposed to be. Other editors have a right to their input, and they will likely find reliable sources documenting POV with which you disagree, but NPOV requires the inclusion of opposing POV. If a subject is fringe, the article will document that fact and the mainstream POV will be dominant. We simply reflect what RS say.

You also need to remember to use edit summaries for every edit and comment, use the edit history to check for edit summaries before making edits, sign your edits properly (using four tildes (~~~~), etc.. I'm going to leave a welcome template at the top of your talk page. It has lots of good links to help you get up to speed. Read them very carefully before proceeding. -- Brangifer (talk) 23:46, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

@BullRangifer, there haven't been any objections from any other editors. There were bots. When other editors make objections then we can have this discussion. However, I thank you for your guidance and your tutelage. This current page must be changed, so its getting changed. Consider this as an opportunity to take care of something that you admit needs to be done. The current ring of editors really have no business in the editing process for this article. Look at their edit histories. This article should be about Plasma Cosmology not about "Plasma Cosmology & Other Models" for instance, much of the material is out of date, plain wrong, or completely red-herring. So, since we're friends, I don't have to get Richard Knipel on the phone.