Talk:Dwight Lauderdale

RFC section

... Place your comments about the article here. Got an improvement, by all means, put 'er in. (Make sure it complies with WP:BPL :) ) KoshVorlon > rm -r WP:F.U.R 04:21, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Stubbiying the page

Damien, do NOT stubby this page again. Your reasons are totally without merit. Kindly state any concerns you have about this article, discuss them, and yes, if they violate BLP change them. (FYI - there are NO BLP violations I'm aware of, but I'm very open to group consensus ). THank you KoshVorlon > rm -r WP:F.U.R 21:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

No BLP concerns indeed, since the article has a heavy non-neutral positive bias towards the man. I've listed some of my concerns bellow for your appreciation. --Damiens.rf 21:37, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Some of the problems with the article

1. 1st reference is a 404 error

It's a valid page found on Google. It's now cached [1], Article # 1908 (at this time - but that may change)

1. "was born and raised in a working-class suburb of Columbus, Ohio" - Just name the place instead of describing it with POV charged terms

Read the reference that goes along with it. It doesn't list the town name, it lists his birth place in that exact verbiage. Therefore I have to list it that way.

1. Too many emphasis on what he said once about his parents.
2. "He took this lesson to heart..." - peacock terms.
3. "winning many oratorical (speech) contests..." - No sources

Are you reading the references with this, it's REFERENCED!!!

1. "...being publically recognized in local newspaper articles..." - weasel words

... REFERENCED info

1. "One such article would lead to a phone call that would set him on the path to become South Florida's first black anchor" - no sources for this peacocky sentence.

AGAIN, referenced....read the references next time

1. my.highschooljournalism.org is not a reliable source. It's used at least 8 times.

Your POV

1. MiamiNightOut.com is not a reliable source. It's used at least 9 times.

It's reliable

1. "...to learn the news business from the bottom up" - Improper tone.

Referenced in just that way

1. "It wasn't terribly exciting...'" - Improper tone.

His exact quote - read the references, please

1. "...it did hook him on the business..." - Improper tone.

Again, referenced quote

1. "He did everything from processing the film, to news writing, to producing, even substiuting for on-air talent." - No sources

See above

1. "He even found time to complete his education..." - Improper tone.

WP:SOFIXIT

1. "WPLG (chanel 10) offerd him a three-year contract as a reporter / weekend anchor..." - No sources

READ THE REFERENCES - it IS referenced

1. Unnecessarily long quotations on section "Dwight moves to South Florida"

Your POV

1. Title of section "Dwight moves to South Florida" has an improper tone.

Nope

1. "He quickly established himself as a prolific street reporter..." - peacock terms.

Nope -- per referenced sources

1. "...working half a dozen stories per day." - No sources

Referenced....you DO see that little number next to that sentance, dont' you ;)

1. "...including the Miami River Cops Case..." - No sources. Clarify.

See above

1. "He also managed to score..." - Improper tone.

No - per references

1. "...the first one-on-one interview of President Clinton's presidency..." - No sources

REFERENCED

1. "More than anything, he remembers the rigid ground rules..." - peacock terms.

Nope - his exact quote

1. "He was bumped up to the weeknight anchor desk..." - Improper tone.

Nope - per the references

1. "...the legendary Ann Bishop..." - WP:NPOV.

Nope - per sources

1. "He's since shared anchor duties with Diane Magnum, Kristi Krueger and Laurie Jennings..." - No sources.

Read the references with that

1. "Dwight Lauderdale was known, among many things, for his sense of style" - Weasel words.

ARE YOU READING THE REFERENCES ON THIS - THEY'RE THERE!!!!!!

1. "He always wore sleek suits and had impeccable diction on air.." - No sources and non-neutral.

PER SOURCES

1. Undue weight to quotes of Mr. Lauderdale praising him on "On Camera" section

Open up an RFC on it, if that's the consensus, that by all means, refactor them. (By the way, I claim IAR on that, you get a better idea of what he's like by those quotes, and he DID retire, so what do you expect his co-workers would say ?  :)

1. "This passion to "get the story right" led him to..." - peacock terms.

Nope - again, per sources

1. "Dwight Lauderdale's road to success..." - peacock terms.

Per References

1. "...had it's fair share of bumps and obstacles." - Improper tone.

Your POV

1. "...briefly went from delivering the news to making the news..." - Improper tone.

Nope - again -- READ the references, it's actually direct quote

1. "...learned that he might be a candidate for corrective eye surgery after viewing a news story about this surgery on his own station..." - No sources.

Lay off the crack, it's sourced :) (Yes, I'm being funny)

1. "He never had a problem reading the telepromter, which was 20 feet away from him.." - No sources.

Again, it's sourced, just look

1. "He would, however, have a problem if he had to read from a script without his glasses..." - No sources.

....do you see the little number at the end of the sentance....it called a reference, click on it and you can see my source.... :)

1. "It happened only once in what he refers to has his worse case scenario..." - No sources.

See above

1. Overuse of quotations.

RFC it, if consensus agrees, no problem

1. Section entitled "Things you may not know about Dwight Lauderdale" - Improper tone and unnecessary trivia

Read the comment in the source -- IAR. It improves the article. I realize this can be challenged, and if a consesus is reached that this shouldn't be here, I won't war to keep it in.

1. Section "References" should use {{cite web}} templates (and reliable sources, of course).

See the numbers at the bottom....... :)

--Damiens.rf 21:35, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Damien.rf you're being difficult. You've been blocked before, please stop before you get another block. 23:14, 6 November 2008 (UTC)