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== Community ban of MarkBA for repeated sockpuppetry == |
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{{report top|The Digwuren case remedies do not mention socking, which is what this case is. So I'm handling it as a normal SSP case, remedy-wise, and logging at AE, SSP, Digwuren case log, and MarkBA's talk page. There is no doubt that MarkBA has repeatedly used socks and he/his socks have been blocked at least 4 times. This is highly disruptive. I'm blocking the IP in the SSP case one month, blocking MarkBA for three months, and giving MarkBA an topic ban for six months...Rlevse}} |
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I am pretty much concerned that (unfortunately) Mark does not wish to play by the rules, and even more, he is against them, trying to compromise and eventually destroy them by provoking again and again, playing out the restrictions and rules (the general ones also, like [[WP:NPA]]), then ''denying'' them all. A full month of asking, warning, demanding and even blocking to make him change his way of acting failed. Imho there is not much left to do, but to say goodbye to each other, and step forward. --[[User:Rembaoud|Rembaoud]] ([[User talk:Rembaoud|talk]]) 22:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC) |
I am pretty much concerned that (unfortunately) Mark does not wish to play by the rules, and even more, he is against them, trying to compromise and eventually destroy them by provoking again and again, playing out the restrictions and rules (the general ones also, like [[WP:NPA]]), then ''denying'' them all. A full month of asking, warning, demanding and even blocking to make him change his way of acting failed. Imho there is not much left to do, but to say goodbye to each other, and step forward. --[[User:Rembaoud|Rembaoud]] ([[User talk:Rembaoud|talk]]) 22:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== Eyrian on an IPs? == |
== Eyrian on an IPs? == |
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Community ban of MarkBA for repeated sockpuppetry
Eyrian on an IPs?
- 65.11.23.219 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 71.9.8.150 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 72.151.55.27 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/JohnEMcClure confirmed that Eyrian, who participated aggresively in AfDs and last edited in October 2007 and who was subsequently blocked per Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Eyrian, made "numerous IP edits". Notice this IP's edit history that follows seems to focus on certain kinds of articles. Now today, notice this edit in which the IP writes, "It's been awhile since I've seen an ipc article nominated", but if you look again at the edit history of the IP, there are NO previous edits to any IPC articles, which thus makes that statement odd and as if it is from someone who either edits using different IPs or who is an old user. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 18:37, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- There are many editors who are AFD regulars (this IP certainly is if it is a stable IP) and care about IPC, fancruft, trivia, episodes, and the like. Any specific reason you think this is Eyrian as opposed to someone else? And do you really think the closing admins are going to pay any attention to IP comments that don't make new arguments? I don't think the admins will. GRBerry 18:57, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- I think Eyrian, because the IP's edits start around the time that Eyrian stopped editing from his Eyrian account (in October 2007) and started using different accounts and IPs. I suppose one of the arbitration committee checkusers could check the IP to see (I'm not sure if they could go back far enough to check if it's Eyrian, but if it is someone also using additional current accounts or IPs, those might show up). Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 18:58, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Two possibilities. 1) This isn't Eyrian - obviously, we shouldn't do anything then, but it would be helpful to point out to the editor that commenting in an AFD using an IP results in minimal weight and the user might consider using an account. 2) This is Eyrian - then he can readily evade by going to a different IP (proxy, resetting a router, going to a different coffee shop, et cetera...). Either way, I don't see much to gain by blocking an IP. So far as I can see, since the case close identified or even suspected any puppets or IP addresses of Eyrian that were still in use at the time suspected, so I don't know what would happen if we tagged as a suspected puppet. Definitely try the user's talk page for a discussion. Consider tagging with {{sockpuppet}} and watching; if the IP editor vanishes then that will be confirmation of a sort, but indicate that an unending game of whack-a-mole is forthcoming. GRBerry 19:22, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- I sent an email to Morven who was the checkuser on the Eyrian case just in case if the IPs identified at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/JohnEMcClure, which were not listed there, were not tagged. Also, I see at top of this page that we should notify the user. Is there a template for this page similar to the ANI notification template that could be placed on the IPs talk page? Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 19:47, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Not that I'm aware of. Write a message, with attention to the third paragraph of the "Enforcement" section above. "A discussion about you is underway at [[section link]] might suffice." GRBerry 20:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Another IP that looks somewhat similarly suspicious is this one. Also another IP in the 7 range has just posted a similar edit to that other one. Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 16:03, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- Not that I'm aware of. Write a message, with attention to the third paragraph of the "Enforcement" section above. "A discussion about you is underway at [[section link]] might suffice." GRBerry 20:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- I sent an email to Morven who was the checkuser on the Eyrian case just in case if the IPs identified at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/JohnEMcClure, which were not listed there, were not tagged. Also, I see at top of this page that we should notify the user. Is there a template for this page similar to the ANI notification template that could be placed on the IPs talk page? Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 19:47, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Two possibilities. 1) This isn't Eyrian - obviously, we shouldn't do anything then, but it would be helpful to point out to the editor that commenting in an AFD using an IP results in minimal weight and the user might consider using an account. 2) This is Eyrian - then he can readily evade by going to a different IP (proxy, resetting a router, going to a different coffee shop, et cetera...). Either way, I don't see much to gain by blocking an IP. So far as I can see, since the case close identified or even suspected any puppets or IP addresses of Eyrian that were still in use at the time suspected, so I don't know what would happen if we tagged as a suspected puppet. Definitely try the user's talk page for a discussion. Consider tagging with {{sockpuppet}} and watching; if the IP editor vanishes then that will be confirmation of a sort, but indicate that an unending game of whack-a-mole is forthcoming. GRBerry 19:22, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- I think Eyrian, because the IP's edits start around the time that Eyrian stopped editing from his Eyrian account (in October 2007) and started using different accounts and IPs. I suppose one of the arbitration committee checkusers could check the IP to see (I'm not sure if they could go back far enough to check if it's Eyrian, but if it is someone also using additional current accounts or IPs, those might show up). Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 18:58, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
"Probation" violations?
I originally posted this on another noticeboard (here)but have since determined that this might be the better place.
In short, there are a few articles aparently on "probation" where I've noticed some odd actions that might require a closer look. User:Bassettcat and User:John Nevard are hitting Overstock.com, Patrick M. Byrne and Naked short selling in ways that hint at undisclosed conflicts of interest.
User:William Ortiz says that User:Bassettcat resembles User:Mantanmoreland. In response, John Nevard called William Ortiz (and me, too) "crazy."
Please take a look. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.192.164.228 (talk) 03:00, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- I have filed a Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Mantanmoreland, Regards, Huldra (talk) 09:53, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Checkuser came up as "Unrelated". Regards, Huldra (talk) 18:25, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- There is also a Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Mantanmoreland. Enjoy. John Vandenberg (chat) 11:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- I have filed a Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Mantanmoreland, Regards, Huldra (talk) 09:53, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Nevard appears to currently be that editors main account. I'm not going to act with regard to it.
- Bassettcat looks to be a single purpose account, but I'm undecided as to whether or not it is a sock-puppet, and the committee didn't ban SPAs, only sockpuppets (part A). However, part D is a requirement "To disclose on the relevant talk pages any circumstances (but not including personal identifying information) that constitute or may reasonably be perceived as constituting a conflict of interest with respect to that page". I suspect Bassettcat to be violating either part A, part D, or both; so I recommend we topic ban in the absence of a disclosure with regard to part D.
- Stetsonharry looks like a sockpuppet, but I'm not sure whether it is a) Mantanmoreland or b) someone from the other side of the dispute attempting to discredit either Mantanmoreland or c) someone from a drama site trying to undermine communal confidence in the process of identifying sockpuppetry. Could others review this more thoroughly? GRBerry 20:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Reply: I have no conflict of interest to disclose. I am a trader by profession, but have no current or former position in Overstock.com and no commercial relationship with that company. I have no other account on Wikipedia and I don't believe I can be classed as a "single purpose account," unless interest in finance is a singular purpose. I corrected the Byrne article recently to fix an error that Hulda himself discovered, concerning an award given to Byrne. I also corrected an error in naked short selling that was serious in nature. It stated that naked shorting was always illegal, which was contradicted by the article itself and by the Securities and Exchange Commission website. That error has now been reinstated to the article by the same IP who raised this issue, and who apparently has an axe to grind.--Bassettcat (talk) 22:09, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't know whether it falls under the purview of this section, but you may be aware that the above IP and User:PatrickByrne rewrote the entire naked short selling article unilaterally and without discussion. That was aborted by Nakon, and PatrickByrne then reinstated the changes and the IP again,in the process reinstating the inaccuracy that I stated above. Nakon warned PatrickByrne for vandalism. --Bassettcat (talk) 22:16, 5 May 2008 (UTC)