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Archived talk: 2004 2005 2006 2007

Weight

Can you add a ton->kg conversion in {{Weight}}--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:41, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd rather make a dedicated template for this. Which ton do you need, by the way, short or long one?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 01:16, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I need the ton that equals 2000 lbs.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 16:34, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That would be the short ton. Could you tell me what abbreviation I should use for it? So far three different sources I found used "sh tn", "S/T", and simply "T". I am not sure which one is the most common. It would help if you told me where the template is going to be used. Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 21:16, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have only seen the word ton used and since it is only 3 letters ton abbreviating it to two letters and a period like tn. is not done. I would suggest just specifying on the template page that this is the English ton. Then use 5 ton (xxx.xx kg) as the output, IMO.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 21:43, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Iowa places

Decatur City, Iowa

What do you mean by "it is no longer recognised"?Zigzig20s 18:07, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be damned if I remember why I said that. I added my comment in 2004, and I am sure I had a reason then, but I have long since forgotten what it was (it's been more than three years after all). Sorry!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:05, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well apparently American cities are often census-designated, so perhaps you meant that that was changed for gerrymandering purposes? That was the guess that I took. (And in that case I still think there should be a page on the city.) Anyway, those city pages seem desolately uncared for...Zigzig20s 20:37, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Still doesn't ring a bell... I was involved in an off-Wikipedia project dealing with Midwestern states in 2004, around the time when I first discovered Wikipedia. There were a few things I could contribute to Wikipedia in relation to that project; things I was working on anyway. I guess this note was one of those things, but since it was three years ago, I don't remember any of the details. Anyway, I'll be removing this note of mine since it obviously no longer makes sense to me or to folks who see it :) Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 21:00, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Leroy, Iowa

Are you sure about what you said regarding this city?Zigzig20s 09:51, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Did you just delete it?Zigzig20s 11:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What did I say about it? And no, I never deleted it. There is no deletion log entry for this one at all, so either it never existed, or it was deleted back when deleted entries were purged regularly.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was in the category for cities in Iowa, that's how I came across it. And a couple of hours later, no more.Zigzig20s 18:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, you mistyped the name :) It's called Le Roy, Iowa.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dear God...I thought I'd gone mad :) Anyway I guess you don't remember why you typed that? Zigzig20s 18:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

At the risk of sounding demented and senile, I must say you guessed right :) All this was a while ago, and I lost interest in Midwestern cities long since. You might be better off asking around Iowa Portal or some such.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:02, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Owasa, Iowa

I would suggest a redirect, as a demographics section for a neighbourhood seems a bit overkill, doesn't it?Zigzig20s 11:45, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the stats came from the US Census data, no? If so, the article can be left where it is as a census-designated place (providing that it is; I don't really know much about it).—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You suggested a redirect on the talk page.Zigzig20s 18:43, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's was over three years ago as well... From what I see, Owasa has the same ZIP code as Iowa Falls, but I don't remember why it is. If they indeed merged, I don't have a source to support this fact now.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fyodor

thanks for tidying - I messed that up rather! Johnbod 18:19, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No prob!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Other templates

Are you going to get a chance to convert {{in to cm}} for multidimensionality?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 00:20, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the plan was to upgrade all existing templates to support ranges and dimensions, but I am rather short on time just now to tackle that. However, your inquiry helped me realize that {{in to cm}} would basically be a copypaste of {{ft to m}} where only the unit names and the conversion factor need to be replaced. So, enjoy :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 03:16, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Saratov/Gelonus

Currently I adapt the german article de:Oblast Saratow. Long time ago you made an statement in the english Saratov article (this one). Did you remember the sources? Or could you give any sources confirming the statement/legend that Gelonus was situated in the Saratow area?--JA ALT 13:07, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, JA! As a matter of fact, it wasn't me who added this statement. My edit (the diff you provided) was a simple matter of reverting vandalism. I do not know what the sources are. Sorry!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

History of Russia FAR

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ru:ВП:Ф-ПРЕ#Миграция юзербоксов

Ты при этом наверняка присутствовал, поэтому, если не трудно, пожалуйста, поделись соображениями по поводу того, что было. — Kalan 17:28, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Извини, пока не до этого. Завал...—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:27, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling

Hello Ezhiki! Hope your holidays are going in the right direction. Can you please look at: Talk:Beryozovsky, Kemerovo Oblast and provide more expert answer? Thank you. Have a nice and sunny day. :) - Darwinek 17:04, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, don't even start me on the "right direction". This is the suckiest summer I ever had, and I had some rough ones before. Well, this, too, shall pass, however... or so I hope :)

Anyway, I wrote a short explanation, which would hopefully be sufficient to explain what the problem with the name is. Wish you a pleasant and relaxing summer as well; compared to mine it shouldn't be too difficult to accomplish :) Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:25, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Ft in to m and Template:height

Hi E,

Is there a way for you to tweak Template:FT in to m so that Template:Height can be deprecated? Template ft in to m meets MOSNUM requirements whereas Template:Height does not and it would be better to just have one if possible. This stems from a discussion at WP:MOSNUM to make sure that conversion templates in the Category:Conversion templates actually conform to the MOSNUM. —MJCdetroit 17:33, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was my intention to deprecate {{height}} from the beginning. What I did not realize, however, was that it was designed to convert both ways (i.e., meters to feet, as well as feet to meters). It is fairly simple to replace all existing occurences of {{height}} with {{ft to m}}, {{m to ft}}, and {{ft in to m}} ({{m to ft in}} still needs to be written), but my idea was that, in order to avoid this mundane work, it would be easier to re-write {{height}} so that it recognizes which parameters are being passed to it and calls an appropriate conversion template with those parameters. That is not a terribly complicated task, but, unfortunately, I am unable to take care of it being short on time. If someone wants to tackle that in my absence, it's fine; otherwise I'll do it when I am again available. Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:20, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request to move Kyiv

Hello,

I have set up a request to move the page Kiev to Kyiv.

I have outlined four key reasons for doing so in the discussion section of the page.

Looking through the archives, I saw that you had contributed to this page earlier. I would like to hear what you have to say on this topic.

Thank you

Horlo 03:02, 30 July 2007 (UTC)Horlo[reply]

Michael said it best. I completely agree with him.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 12:21, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Information.svg

I was wondering if you have the svg file to Image:Information.svg, and if so, if you can send it to me (thesublime123@gmail.com). I'm making a similar one and want it to match this one. Thanks — Bob • (talk) • 01:08, July 31, 2007 (UTC)

Edit: I see it's a local copy of a commons image. Nevermind, I'll contact the author there. — Bob • (talk) • 01:14, July 31, 2007 (UTC)

Politics of Russia

Thanks for the reminder, I thought that didn't sound quite right. —Michael Z. 2007-07-31 16:28 Z

Re: Template

Hi, Ezhiki. I don't share your concerns that my edits would open a door for all sort of stuff being inserted into the neat template. As a historian, I think it very useful to list Albazin or Okhotsk in the appropriate templates, given their huge historical importance which puts to shame modern towns of the region. I believe marking these entries with italics is sufficient to let out readers know that these are not towns any more.

The generic heading "Cities and towns in..." implies that the template lists both actual and former towns of the region, just like Category:Collection of the Hermitage includes the artworks that were sold out in the 1930s. The templates about the Far Eastern regions are by no means overpopulated. I don't propose to extend the practice to European Russian, because rather few historically important towns were demoted in this part of the country.

I anticipate your concerns that there is no consistency in this approach, but, on the other hand, there is no consistency in Wikipedia in general, so we are expected to avoid excessive formalism. --Ghirla^-трёп- 18:35, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Consistency issues aside, I'd say we still need to at least add a footnote specifying that the entries in italics refer to places which no longer hold city/town status but are included for historical reasons. Better yet, enter them on the line of their own. I do not at all agree that the reason for italicizing is obvious; a legend of some sort should always be available to readers when special formatting is employed.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Is this still needed?

First of all, that's an excellent job on the height template, it is actually more powerful now than I thought it was possible.

{{Height2}} was never meant as more than a testbed for experimentation. Since {{height}} is now vastly improved (and in a right way at that, i.e. without introducing excessive complexity), I'd say height2 is not needed anymore and I will nominate it for deletion shortly.

As for switching away from {{height}}... Well, I actually like the template, it's just that I didn't like the way it was implemented - fortunately, that's fixed now. It boils down to this: {{m to ft in}} and {{ft in to m}} have a certain default behaviour (i.e. parameter defaults) that may or may not be suited to our use, that is, displaying human height. {{height}} is a convenient way to "override" these defaults, and that means simpler use and more consistent display. GregorB 13:27, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the compliments, but I did not put even a quarter of an effort I normally would into designing of this template (mainly because I just wanted to fix its major flaws so it could be usable until it's deprecated). Since you (and undoubtedly other editors) prefer to keep using it, I'd probably have to re-visit it again, unless someone else wants to do the re-design. I see someone already complained about default precision being one instead of zero (something I hastily fixed this morning, but unfortunately the fix broke the fractions support).

Anyway, I'll work on the template some more. If you have any ideas you'd like to see implemented, now would be a good time to let me know. By the way, is this template even used for anything but the conversion of human height? If not, all those fractions and other fancy stuff would be an overkill. Thanks for your comments! Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:11, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, apart from possible bug fixes, I only see one thing: display of height in half-inches. (That's what this experiment with height2 has been about). {{height}} can display half-inches now, but it's not the default, and perhaps it should be (applies to conversion from metric to imperial, of course). Since this would change its behavior somewhat, a wider discussion is needed. Perhaps I'll propose this on the template's talk page...

And that's it, more or less... As far as I can tell, {{height}} is used almost exclusively in infoboxes. Usage for things other than human height is very rare. But fractions and other bells and whistles come "for free", as I gather, and might be useful (half-inches certainly, quarter-inches perhaps, anything more would be an overkill), so I think that's OK. GregorB 15:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So, what, no 1/128ths, eh? :)) On a more serious note, since the fractions handling code is borrowed from {{m to ft in}} anyway, {{height}} can either have one of the values hard-coded in (halves), or support whatever denominator people would want to use (in which case the frac parameter will be used to specify what is wanted; and it's possible to use 2 so halves are the default). Limiting the selection to two choices (halves and quarters) would actually require quite a bit more work, so I'd rather leave the flexibility that's there for free already.

Anyway, I'll start working on this as soon as I find a chunk of uninterrupted time (hopefully some time this week). If you happen to think of anything useful to add along the way, don't hesitate to let me know. Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:38, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. It is the default that matters the most (halves or no halves, we'll see how people react), but apart from that, I suppose there is no harm in exposing parameters from the underlying template. GregorB 15:45, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Administrative divisions of Russian federal subjects

A template you created, Template:Administrative divisions of Russian federal subjects, has been marked for deletion as a deprecated and orphaned template. If, after 14 days, there has been no objection, the template will be deleted. If you wish to object to its deletion, please list your objection here and feel free to remove the {{deprecated}} tag from the template. If you feel the deletion is appropriate, no further action is necessary. Cheers. --MZMcBride 20:38, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just making sure—you did see that it was a redirect to a template, not a template? Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:08, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I saw it was a redirect, but I still count it as a template because it's in the Template namespace and it's listed here. Cheers. --MZMcBride 16:32, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to make sure it was not due to a bug that the redirect was listed. Since it was a mistyped name from the very start, I have just deleted it. Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:57, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Latinized Russian

Please have a look at this. For english speakers it would be useful to read your comment as an american-russian user. Regards --Obersachse 18:40, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Another idea by Zolotaryov, eh? I'll add something later. Thanks for the heads-up.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:04, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: {{Hidden}}

I left a note on User:BenB4's talk page requesting that he look at your userpage. He was the master architect behind the recent changes to Template:Hidden and MediaWiki:Common.js (the back-end). Cheers. --MZMcBride 22:45, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A little testing on my part led me to see that part of the issue is unrelated to Template:Hidden, and has to do with the multiple tables being used. If you copy out the contents of just the Awards section, it works (pretty much). Something else on your userpage is interacting with the various parts and screwing up multiple things. --MZMcBride 22:55, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is not inconceivable that the change to Template:Hidden could have caused this, but the overwhelmingly likely reason involves incorrect syntax on the userpage which was forgiven by the quirks of the previous hidden. I'm looking. ←Ben^B4 23:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I didn't fully diagnose what was wrong, but I'm sure it was the embedded wikitable syntax. I fixed it by replacing {{Hidden}} with {{Hidden begin}} and {{Hidden end}}. Cheers. ←Ben^B4 23:37, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, folks, for having fixed my userpage! I much appreciate your help. Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 12:17, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Zelenograd

Я всё о том же, о статусе города. ;-) Так как аналогичная дискуссия возникла и в ру-вики, я приглашаю вас к ней присоединиться ru:Википедия:К объединению/9 августа 2007. Alex Spade 09:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Я, вообще, по этому поводу могу много чего сказать (и я, кстати, уже разделяю вашу точку зрения по поводу того, что Зеленоград — это город), но, к сожалению, без ссылок на документы слова мои многого стоить не будут. Если найду момент в ближайшее время, то постараюсь озвучить свои мысли хотя бы в общем. Спасибо за наводку.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 12:21, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

English translation of the Valuyev Circular

Hi. I stumbled through translating the Valuyev Circular into English, at s:Valuyev Circular. Please have a look over it if you have a bit of time. Thank you. —Michael Z. 2007-08-10 14:22 Z

Template:Infobox Russian city2

Template:Deprecation notice --MZMcBride 18:35, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To the benefit of Wiklipedia?

edits of one Wikipedian:

re-inserting unverified numbers

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ISO_639-3&diff=next&oldid=150388080

denying existence of language

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anam&diff=prev&oldid=150385139

deleting language stubs

destroying disambiguation

undo wikification

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tukums&diff=prev&oldid=149969413

delete ISO 639 redirects (Category:Redirects from ISO 639)

deleting mentioning of argentine singer

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Luj%C3%A1n_de_Cuyo&diff=next&oldid=148271607

recreate bad redirect

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tango_singer&diff=next&oldid=148272143

regards Tobias 84.190.45.233 20:46, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the two current threads on this at AN/I. Basically, this morning I discovered that Conradi had a new ID that he had been using since before the ban, and had continued to use after he was banned. As per normal practice with banned users, I undid/deleted his edits from after the point in time of the ban. - TexasAndroid 21:15, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think this practice is quite abnormal. :-) 84.190.38.113 21:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Logic update: There is

only number 2 was banned/blocked 84.190.38.113 21:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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 : Please see the two current threads on this at AN/I.  Basically, this morning I discovered that Conradi had a new ID that he had been using since before the ban, and had continued to use after he was banned.  As per normal practice with banned users, I undid/deleted his edits from after the point in time of the ban. - [[User:TexasAndroid|TexasAndroid]] 21:15, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 :: I think this practice is quite abnormal. :-) [[User:84.190.38.113|84.190.38.113]] 21:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
+Logic update: There is
+# a person [[Tobias Conradi]] born 1975
+# [[User:Tobias Conradi]]
+# [[User:Tobias Conradi2]]
+only number 2 was banned/blocked
+[[User:84.190.38.113|84.190.38.113]] 21:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC)