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Brahmalokam To Yamalokam Via Bhulokam

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Fails WP:NFILM since the creation of this article [1]. A search in English or Telugu yield no reliable sources [2]. Only sources found were passing mentions: [3] [4] [5]. Webdunia production source(no link on Wikipedia) isn't enough to save the article. DareshMohan (talk) 04:05, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of Telugu films of 2010#July–December: but given the participation of notable film personalities, not opposed to Keep. -Mushy Yank. 07:48, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added two reviews from the sources available. Please check if it can suffice - Herodyswaroop (talk) 08:50, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jónína Kristín Berg

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Article lacks multiple sources with significant coverage (WP:BIO asks for multiple sources). The most substantial source is the first in the article, a short article in a newspaper.[6] Source 2 is a primary source listing higher-ups in a given organization.[7] Source 3 is a very short mention in a newspaper.[8] Source 4 is used to mention her role as an interim administrator, but with no other notable events occurring during the period. Source 5 is another primary source. A google search for more coverage yielded only social media. Wizmut (talk) 03:18, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. No pass of any notability criterion. Xxanthippe (talk) 05:57, 12 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]
Delete. A regional leader and one-time interim leader of a 5k-person neopagan sect is not enough for automatic notability; we need WP:GNG-based in-depth coverage in publications independent of her and of the sect. The first Morgunblaðið source may count towards that but the second has no depth of coverage of her and is in the same publication as the first. So basically I agree with the nominator that we do not have the necessary multiplicity of good enough sources. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:13, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Ásatrúarfélagið#Third and fourth allsherjargoðar (2002–present), for the time being. Pretty sure I saw more sigcov of her in the past, either in Icelandic newspapers or some academic anthology, but I can't find it now. Ffranc (talk) 13:28, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Ásatrúarfélagið#Third and fourth allsherjargoðar (2002–present). The Morgunblaðið article is SIGCOV but we need multiple sources of SIGCOV for it to pass WP:GNG. That said, I think a redirect is a better alternative to deletion. Alvaldi (talk) 20:10, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Emmanuel Savary

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Non-notable figure skater; does not even come close to meeting the criteria of WP:NSKATE. Includes two local publications; I'll let the community decide whether that qualifies as "significant coverage." Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:34, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Strong keep: It is important to keep in mind that more sources exist than are present in the articles. SIGCOV, SIGCOV, SIGCOV, SIGCOV, SIGCOV, SIGCOV, SIGCOV JTtheOG (talk) 22:53, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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An-Nibras

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The article has been tagged for notability issues since 2018. A thorough review reveals no evidence to establish its notability, and no independent, reliable sources are available to verify its significance.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 03:22, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Al-Ādab wa-l-Fann (magazine)

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The article has been tagged for notability concerns since 2018. Upon review, there is no evidence to demonstrate its notability. Furthermore, no independent and reliable sources exist to substantiate its significance.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 03:16, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Al Hadatha

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The article was tagged for notability by Randykitty in 2021. A detailed review reveals an over-reliance on self-references and directory websites. There is no indication of notability, and no independent, reliable sources are available to support the subject.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 03:10, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2023 Bronx poisoning

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Fails WP:EVENT. Not shown to have lasting significance, i.e., continued coverage beyond routine news reports at the time of the incident and at time of the federal criminal complaints, sentencing, etc., of connected people. Bridget (talk) 01:41, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, could not find any non-routine coverage of the poisoning. Esolo5002 (talk) 03:59, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. While tragic, this fails WP:NEVENT and contravenes WP:NOTNEWS; every source I could see is routine coverage. – Epicgenius (talk) 14:22, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per #4 of WP:EVENTCRIT. Astaire (talk) 15:41, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – These sources (which don't appear to be routine coverage), [9] [10] [11], already provide continued significant and in-depth coverage of the case. Lasting effects arising from this case are possible, but as of yet, haven't happened yet. Quoting from the fist article linked: “I’m very sorry, but one of the things my child care inspectors are not trained to do is look for fentanyl,” Dr. Ashwin Vasan, the city’s health commissioner said. [...] “But maybe we need to start,” the commissioner added. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 16:43, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect Wikipedia is not a news tabloid that redirects to Wikinews. 190.219.101.225 (talk) 17:30, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NOTNEWS states that Wikipedia should not offer first-hand news reports on breaking stories [as] Wikipedia does not constitute a primary source. The sources above are secondary and are not first-hand reports on breaking news since they provide continued coverage, along with analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the case. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 03:03, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete not a notable enough event with SIGCOV. Andre🚐 03:00, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - a classic example of Not News. There was significant coverage in New York metro media for two days. Then there was the usual coverage of the plea bargain. That's it. I feel sorry because I grew up in the area and taught over the course of four years in the Bronx. Bearian (talk) 04:47, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Creative Lives

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Almost entirely primary sourced, some trivial mentions from reliable sources. Beyond that, no independent sigcov to establish notability. Jdcooper (talk) 01:12, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Les Marmitons

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No evidence of notability, although it's existed for nearly 2 decades, it's promotional in tone, and likely a copyright violation of [12]. Zippybonzo | talk | contribs (they/them) 13:07, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Support, article lacks notability. — Your local Sink Cat (The Sink). 06:10, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sink Cat Based on your rationale, I assume you meant to write "Delete" in bold, not "Support"? It is clearer when AfD !votes are for a specific outcome, rather than just supporting the nomination. The nominator could change their mind, for instance, or (like in this case) not specify the outcome they're seeking. Toadspike [Talk] 10:47, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Yes I had meant delete. — Your local Sink Cat (The Sink). 13:46, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, plenty of sourcing that could be used.[13][14][15] etc. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 22:04, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Geoff Cottrill

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Fails WP:GNG. Being C-suite at a company is not an inherent designator of notability, especially for a company that isn't even in the Global 2000. Coverage is WP:ROUTINE industry reporting of the movement of executives, not WP:SIGCOV of the subject himself. Other coverage is in relation to who his daughter is or is WP:PROMO. Longhornsg (talk) 16:24, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The article is pretty poor but there are several full-length articles about him in AdWeek, plus the one listed in the article in Forbes. There is definitely more reliable content that could be added to the article. Lamona (talk) 03:18, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Article that can be improved and better sources would be preferable, but currently this article seems admissible to me, it appeared in Adweek and Forbes SparklingBlueMoon (talk) 15:17, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Apt Records

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References only one source and a google search does not yield much notability (i.e: a few questionable sources; Discogs, Rate Your Music, Both Sides Now Publications. Notability seems thin here. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 19:09, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Granted, this is a discontinued label, so much of the info may be in newspapers from its era. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 19:11, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to ABC Records: this was its parent label and Apt Records is mentioned there, making it a viable-enough alternative to deletion barring the emergence of more-substantial sourcing. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:56, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to ABC Records. Completely agree with above. I think there's some useful information in the article that could be used within ABC Records, but not enough to warrant its own article. Beachweak (talk) 21:05, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Merge~~ rather than redirect. This was just a sublabel for singles releases of ABC, but the label history is noteworthy enough to merit mention in the parent article. Chubbles (talk) 01:46, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Or keep! based on below efforts. Chubbles (talk) 05:04, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Significant coverage found at [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], Billboard January 30, 1965 page 4, the liner notes of this, [21] (I consider this a reliable source, it is curated and used by academic sources), 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 03:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

for what it’s worth regarding nom statement, Discogs and Rate Your Music are not reliable. Both Sides Now is reliable, but what’s there regarding Apt isn’t significant coverage. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 03:43, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep or merge I think there's a potential editorial decision to be made as to whether this should be a stand-alone page - the Billboard coverage is clearly good coverage, I'm not entirely convinced liner notes and a list of releases get us to GNG but there's definitely sources we can use to write about the label. Whether a sub-label should be on the parent page or not isn't something I really care about, but the article as it reads currently is in pretty bad shape and if it's not significantly updated, a merge might be a better option. But while AfD can function as a merge discussion, my entire point is that there's enough sources that we don't need to delete this. SportingFlyer T·C 01:00, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to ABC Records - This is a company (or a subsidiary of one), so the appropriate guidelines are WP:NCORP. That means coverage must be at WP:CORPDEPTH in multiple independent reliable and secondary sources. The run of sources provided are mostly all from Billboard and count as a single source under the guidelines. The other two sources are definitely not at CORPDEPTH, but at least the first Billboard article is, telling us something about the proposed re-activated subsidiary and about a previous hit on the label. But these are also news reporting, which is a primary source. You are right that Billobaord would be curated and used by academic sources, but that word, curation, is key. Academics would be curating this primary source when producing their histories, analysis and synthesis. The academic sources are then the secondary sources. Wikipedia articles are tertiary, and should be written from the secondary sources, not the primary ones. We don't yet have any secondary sourcing. Under WP:SIRS there is not enough here for a standalone article. But, despite that, the first Billboard article is a good find. Used with care, it could be used to flesh out information on this subsidiary of ABC Records in that article. A secondary source would be better, but the primary source provides information that we could present without synthesis in a suitable small section. Although this !vote is for merge, much of the mergeable content is actually in this AfD and not on the page. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:56, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Captain Howdy & The Sunset Serenaders

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Article for a likely non-notable band that appears to have been created by a member of the band. Based off a WP:BEFORE search, there is possibly significant coverage of the band, but only from a run-of-the-mill local news article and a site that exclusively covers local music from the band's hometown. Waddles 🗩 🖉 00:21, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jms Brynt

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Very minor, likely non-notable SoundCloud/Bandcamp musician. Based off the sources, the article probably meets WP:SIGCOV, however these are articles which themselves either imply that the subject is not notable or only note that the artist has released music. For example, the Earmilk source describes him as an "artist to watch". Waddles 🗩 🖉 00:02, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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