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October 6, 2024

(Discuss) – Neopanax colensoi → Pseudopanax colensoi – WP:COMMONNAME and WP:FLORA - overwhelming usage within recent scientific papers, despite mixed use in taxonomic databases. Without a clear scientific basis for a preference of one name over the other, MOS:ENGVAR/MOS:TIES: that there is a clear consensus among New Zealand scientific sources for a clade of plants endemic to New Zealand. *Neopanax and Pseudopanax together form a clade. Currently there are three morphological forms of the species within this clade - two are always described as Pseudopanax, while one (the more basal form) is sometimes described as Neopanax and sometimes Pseudopanax. page 52 of this thesis has a useful graph showing phylogenetic relationships within the group. Neopanax was synonymised with Pseudopanax in the 20th century, re-established as a genus in 2004, but the justification of this was disputed in 2009. The distinction appears to be one based on conventions rather than a clear scientific justification (i.e. less based on whether or not Neopanax is a distinct clade within Pseudopanax, and more based on whether it's justified to use a different name for this clade, or to continue to use the pre-2004 convention). This issue was previously discussed at WikiProject Plants. *Different taxonomical databases use different preferred names. Pseudopanax is overwhelmingly used by New Zealand databases. **Pseudopanax preferred: Biota of New Zealand, IUCN, iNaturalist, NZOR and NZTCS **Neopanax preferred: CoL, EoL, GBIF, IRMNG, NCBI, OTOL, POWO *Recent scientific sources outside of taxonomic databases overwhelmingly prefer Pseudopanax. Looking at Post-2020 Google Scholar results for species within the Neopanax clade:

*Neopanax arboreus 6 *Neopanax colensoi 3 *Neopanax kermadecensis 0 *Neopanax laetus 0 *Neopanax macintyrei 1

*Pseudopanax arboreus 150 *Pseudopanax colensoi 29 *Pseudopanax kermadecensis 3 *Pseudopanax laetus 4 *Pseudopanax macintyrei 2

Prosperosity (talk) 00:57, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- Neopanax laetus → Pseudopanax laetus

(Discuss) – DC Studios → DC Films – We should revert this page back to DC Films. The three 2024 projects, such as Super/Man, The Penguin, and Creature Commandos (along with any 2025 projects movie forwards), will leave this article. As confirmed by CEO James Gunn, in this post on Threads, DC Studios is its OWN entity separate from DC Films. The Super/Man documentary was the first movie to be released by the studio, and The Penguin was the first show released by the studio. As he confirmed on this post here, the Joker sequel is NOT a DC Studios film, though some of 2024 projects mentioned earlier are are, as he explained in this post. Given this information, directly from the source, I think this move is in the best interest to make things clear. ScottSullivan01 (talk) 00:08, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 5, 2024

(Discuss) – England in the Late Middle Ages → ? – Move to sentence case per WP:AT (see also WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS). The terms early and late when qualifying Middle Ages are not consistently capped in sources as shown in ngrams here and here. Cinderella157 (talk) 23:21, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Macedonian denar → Denar of North Macedonia – The official name for the currency is "denar" and a quick google search confirms that the common name is North Macedonian denar. I have noticed that other wiki pages about North Macedonia avoid adjectives and prefer the form "... of North Macedonia" in titles and my proposal is to move this page to "Denar of North Macedonia". Open Free Eye (talk) 21:59, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Henry X, Duke of Bavaria → Henry the Proud – Just like his son, Henry the Lion, this duke has a well-established cognomen, by which he is far better known. The ordinal X is, in fact, relatively obscure. Surtsicna (talk) 20:28, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Pokrovsk → Pokrovsk (disambiguation) – The city in Ukraine is clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. With the recent uptick in page views here from the effort to capture the city, the only other settlement listed at Pokrovsk (with an article) which currently bears the name (Pokrovsk, Sakha Republic) has received roughly 80 times less page views ([1], [2]), while prior to July 2024 and after the start of the 2022 invasion that number remained at roughly 15. Other uses of Pokrovsk either do not have en~wiki articles or are no longer relevant (i.e. not used after 1931). WikiNav graph shows only significant outgoing traffic for the Ukrainian city. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 19:19, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Pokrovsk, Ukraine → Pokrovsk

(Discuss) – Danni Wyatt → Danni Wyatt-Hodge – Danni Wyatt was confimed that she will using her married double-barrelled surname from 2024 ICC Women's T20 World Cup [3] [4]. Most of coverage used the new name of this English batter e.g. BBC Sport, ESPNcricinfo, ICC, India Today, [5], Cricbuzz CricketArchive. Eventually ECB posted the new name on their social media. As such, this is now their WP:COMMONNAME, and so moving these article seems sensible, but it seems like correct thing to do. Goodknowme (talk) 19:06, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Fukuoka Broadcasting Corporation → Fukuoka Broadcasting System – The name of the station is Fukuoka Broadcasting System, or FBS, not FBC. VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 18:17, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Antun Herceg → Anton Herceg – His actual name is Anton (Антон).[6][7][8]. 47.201.233.193 (talk) 17:59, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Matlock (TV series) → Matlock (1986 TV series) – Matlock (2024 TV series) has been moved from the draftspace to the mainspace. The Media Expert (talk) 17:48, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Orphan-Maker → Nanny and Orphan-Maker – The characters of Nanny and Orphan-Maker are systematically paired in their appearances in Marvel comics, pretty much like Tweedledum and Tweedledee (comics) or Fenris (comics). It would make more sense to rename the page, rewrite the text slightly to include Nanny's origin and add a different image that would include both characters. Psychloppos (talk) 17:35, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – October 2024 Dahieh airstrike → Assassination of Hashem Safieddine – The current title is empty of meaning. We don't call the assassination of JFK the "November 1963 Dallas Shooting" because that would be incredibly stupid, and no one would know what the page is talking about. Likewise, the majority of the people reading this page will likely have no idea what/where Dahieh is. The singular purpose of this strike was to kill Safieddine just like the assassination of JFK had one intention. The title should be named accordingly. Afdshah (talk) 17:03, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Television Oita → Television Oita System – English name, matches with its short abbreviation TOS VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 17:02, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Gupta Empire → Gupta empire – Historically usually lowercase empire here; recent uptick in capitalization brings it nowhere close to the "consistently capitalized" threshold of MOS:CAPS. Dicklyon (talk) 16:44, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – ICC Women's T20 World Cup → Women's T20 World Cup – Removal of ICC as per WP:COMMONNAME and this RM discussion as well. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 16:30, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – ICC Men's T20 World Cup → Men's T20 World Cup – per WP:COMMONNAME and per the above RM discussion as well. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 15:35, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Quaker State 400 (Atlanta) → Quaker State 400 – I feel like now that this race has had this name for almost half a decade now, I feel like the typical fan would want to research this one instead of it's Kentucky counterpart, therefore I am requesting we remove the Atlanta part from the article name and just make it "Quaker State 400" 45BearsFan (talk) 14:38, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Juan Fageda → Joan Fageda – His birth certificate may well say the Castilian name Juan and he would have been forced into that name for the first 40 years of his life, but personal preferences and modern sources strongly prefer the Catalan name Joan. Going by WP:OFFICIALNAME we would have William Clinton and Anthony Blair. Fageda's website is joanfageda.com and this letter on it is signed as Joan [9]. Third-party sources in Castilian are using Joan [10] even the conservative El Mundo [11] and the nationalist OKDiario [12] so this is not editorial Catalanism, something that the subject as a People's Party politician is exceedingly unlikely to support Unknown Temptation (talk) 14:16, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Copenhagen criteria → European Union membership criteria – This article includes both the Copenhagen criteria and geographic criteria; according to comments on the talk page these are separate. Readers interested in one topic are probably interested in the other, so having them both in a single article makes sense, and it's been that way for a while. This proposal is to change the title to match the contents of the article, to resolve the repeated complaints on the talk page that the geographic criteria are off-topic. -- Beland (talk) 19:25, 27 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 11:51, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Dalecarlian horse → Dala horse – Per WP:COMMONNAME. According to an Ngram search, Dala horse is more common by a wide margin (6-10 times more common). Also, the article for the landskap is named Dalarna, not Dalecarlia, and the proposed title would be consistent with that. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 11:28, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – KAMAUU → Kamauu – Should be moved back to normal capitalization per MOS:ALLCAPS. It was moved on 21 September 2024 without prior discussion by KAMAUU, who self-identifies as "I am the artist KAMAUU". Gawaon (talk) 10:14, 5 October 2024 (UTC)]][reply]

(Discuss) – Muirs Highway → Muir Highway – All current sources I was able to view stated Muir Highway as its current name. Examples are Main Roads Western Australia, Road Information Mapping System, the HEMA WA Road & 4WD Track Atlas, Google maps and OpenStreet maps. I have however also found one picture of a road sign, see here, that states Muirs Highway. I think, a consensus decision is required as to what the official name is. Calistemon (talk) 09:36, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Tichitt culture → Tichitt Tradition – Ngrams suggests that Tichitt Tradition is the WP:Common name. Would check hits on Google Scholar but on mobile. Kowal2701 (talk) 08:22, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Kuninda Kingdom → Kuninda kingdom – Not a proper name. Not so often capitalized in books, so per WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS, we use lowercase. Dicklyon (talk) 06:20, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Joseon → Chosŏn – I'm proposing this mainly to poll opinions in the manner of an WP:RFC, as well as to try and illustrate how our new MOS works. If you're a regular on any Korea topics, I encourage you to think about what I'm discussing here because similar principles will apply to many other moves that may happen in the near future. Context: # "Chosŏn" is the McCune–Reischauer ("MR") romanization of 조선. "Joseon" is using Revised Romanization ("RR"). # We recently rewrote MOS:KO and WP:NCKO. As part of this, MR is now recommended for all pre-1945 topics. Before the rewrite, RR was recommended for pre-1945 topics (except, confusingly, for people names lol...). Thoughts: # Relevant policies: WP:COMMONNAME, WP:DIVIDEDUSE, and WP:CRYSTALBALL. These policies are also the foundation for MOS:KO and WP:NCKO. # Coverage in RS: #* MR and "Chosŏn" are used by almost all Korean history academic journals ([13][14]). #* In my experience, practice in books is more divided. Well-respected and widely used history books almost universally use MR and "Chosŏn". All other books (including less reliable pop culture books about Korea) seem to use RR and "Joseon". This divided use can be somewhat seen in the close race on Ngrams, which measures mentions in books. However, if we prioritize the most reliable sources, this still leans towards MR. #* News and pop culture tend to use "Joseon", like Poong, the Joseon Psychiatrist. #* Together, this suggests that academia uses "Chosŏn", but average people may use "Joseon". # Since this article was created 21 years ago in 2003, it has never gone by "Chosŏn". Moving it to that has seemingly never even been requested. I think this clearly suggests that Wikipedia editors have a preference for this spelling. #* Wikipedia's use of the spelling also possibly influenced global use of the spelling as well. #* Oh, and it's also annoying to type the diacritic letter (ŏ); it's frustratingly not easily available on Mac, PC, or iPhones. In short, there's basically three relevant groups here: academic historians (prefer MR), average people around the world (RR), and Wikipedia editors (RR). I think this move should be decided by how much you want to cater towards each of these groups. I want to hear other arguments or want others to weigh in. I'm actually leaning towards "Joseon" being more appropriate. I think Wikipedia is meant to be used by the average person, and clearly both average people and Wikipedia editors prefer that spelling. But I'm leaving open the possibility for "Chosŏn" to happen. seefooddiet (talk) 05:58, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – September 2024 Lebanon strikes → September 2024 Lebanon airstrikes – – Per WP:PRECISION titles should unambiguously define the topical scope of the article - how can we reasonably say that "strikes is perfectly unambiguous? Are we supposed to believe that the 2023 Writers Guild of America strike was a military operation? Same for the 2022–present National Health Service strikes? ~~"Airstrikes" is perfectly precise to accurately describe the nature of these attacks.For the first two nominations I would also support "... Israeli airstrikes on Lebanon".~~ estar8806 (talk) ★ 19:21, 1 October 2024 (UTC) Edit: Please see the below comment by @JasonMacker: for an updated move request.--estar8806 (talk) ★ 00:42, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 4, 2024

(Discuss) – Cargo 200 (code name) → Cargo 200 – it is an invalid disambig page with only two meanings --Altenmann >talk 23:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Cargo 200 → Cargo 200 (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

(Discuss) – Lists of members of the Canadian Parliament who died in office → Lists of members of the Parliament of Canada who died in office – There are two aspects to this RM proposal. One is that I believe the proper name of the institution is "Parliament of Canada", not "Canadian Parliament". If "Canadian Parliament" is used, I think "Parliament" should be in lowercase, since "Canadian Parliament" is not the proper name of the institution. The second aspect is that MOS:TOPRESENT says the proper form of the final article's date range is to use "to present" or "–present", and says "Do not use incomplete-looking constructions such as 1982– and 1982–... ." There's also a bit of a question in my mind about "the". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 23:22, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – AIM-174B → AIM-174 – Might as well eliminitae the "B" per WP:CONCISE -- the "AIM-174B" is *technically* a specific variant of the AIM-174. Also allows for future variants (a hypothetical AIM-174C, for instance) to be added with no issue. Attempted to move myself, cannot; re-direct exists. MWFwiki (talk) 00:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 01:33, 27 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 21:04, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Public Service Announcement (disambiguation) → Public Service Announcement – Per WP:DIFFCAPS and everything else (other than the common term heard on social media) is written that way in the dab page. To make it clear, the term 'public service announcement' has a primary topic but 'Public Service Announcement' doesn't. JuniperChill (talk) 11:58, 27 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 18:32, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Al-Kabri incident → Al-Kabri massacre – RS describe this as a massacre. "Incident" is a euphemism here. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 16:35, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Wild Wing (disambiguation) → Wild Wing – No clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, per Pageviews. Paradoctor (talk) 11:52, 26 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:29, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – International Phonetic Alphabet chart for English dialects → English phonetics – The current title suggests the current page is an International Phonetic Alphabet chart limited to English phones, like the ones on English phonology but for many more dialects, while the page actually details the specific phonetic realizations of different English dialects. I suggest renaming it to English phonetics to contrast with English phonology, or else Phonetic realizations of English (though that title is less consise). Citation unneeded (talk) 15:24, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Los Angeles runway disaster → 1991 Los Angeles Airport runway collision – The current title is not a common name and WP:DISASTER generally recommends that the titling of an article should not include "disaster". WP:NCE#Aviation recommends that if two or more aircrafts are involved, a where and what should generally be followed, which in this case is Los Angeles (International) Airport and runway collision. And as for consistency, most articles on events where two or more aircraft collided generally use a <year> <location/airport> <(runway) collision> format. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 14:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Over the Hedge → Over the Hedge (comic strip) – Film is the overwhelming primary topic by pageviews. Despite coming first, fewer are aware of the comic in comparison. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:16, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Over the Hedge (film) → Over the Hedge

(Discuss) – Uralic Phonetic Alphabet → Finno-Ugric Transcription – This is the traditional term. Salminen (2024) writes Finno-Ugric Transcription has occasionally been called the “Uralic Phonetic Alphabet”, which is a misnomer for every word in the term, as “Finno-Ugric” has been included in the name of the system from the very beginning, the system is decidedly linguistic rather than phonetic, and it by no means constitutes an alphabet. Note the use of the word "occasionally", which means we have both a reliable and recent source for the fact that "Uralic Phonetic Alphabet" is not the primary name. Stockhausenfan (talk) 12:15, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Best friends forever → Best friend – We have separate Wikipedia articles for Girlfriend and Boyfriend, also for "Significant other", and not only for Friendship but also for specific types of it (Romantic friendship, Cross-sex friendship, Friend zone). Thus I am surprised both that there is no such an article for the topic of best friends and that this sentence has an article of its own. I propose expanding the scope of this article to cover the topic of best friends in general. The sentence itself could have a section of its own if necessary. There's a bigger amount of academic research on the topic of best friends than one might initially expect [15], so there'd be stuff to write about in such an article. Most sources in this article seem to already cover the relationship in general rather than only the sentence. Even some of the text in this article itself already does this (see last paragraph at "Academic studies" section). The article needs rework anyway (some sources are informal, see OUPblog or barbaradelinsky.com; and some of the article's redaction is strange, see In 2010, the BFF concept was a part of a BFF contract "to encourage the signatories to work through their differences before splitting up."), and I think expanding its scope would be a good idea. Super Ψ Dro 12:01, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Google Cloud → Google Cloud (disambiguation) – GCP is commonly referred to as Google Cloud, this page should redirect there. PhotographyEdits (talk) 11:15, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Mohamed Kamara → Mohamed Kamara (footballer, born 1987) – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per page views [16] Joeykai (talk) 00:06, 20 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 09:42, 27 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:12, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Mohamed Kamara (disambiguation) → Mohamed Kamara

(Discuss) – Lady Hyegyeong → Lady Hyegyŏng – This uses McCune–Reischauer and appears to be the WP:COMMONNAME per this ngram. Also, McCune–Reischauer abides by WP:KOREANNAME. seefooddiet (talk) 09:01, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Jungle music → Jungle (genre) – "Jungle" with no qualification is by far the primary & predominant term. "Jungle music" is not a term standard enough that entails using this WP:natural disambiguation over the standard WP:parenthetical disambiguation. "Jungle (genre)" is also much clearer, as "jungle music" could be ambiguous as referring to literal music of a jungle in the eyes of someone who has never heard of this. Nixinova T C 06:55, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Turnover (employment) → Employee turnover – This would appear to be a clear WP:NATURAL situation. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:09, 26 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:05, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Russian-Livonian War (1480-1481) → Livonian–Russian war of 1480–1481 – or Livonian–Pskov Republic war. The hyphenated date range is strange, especially since Russian-Livonian War is a red link. Perhaps the Livonian War (of 1558–1583) could be described as a Russian–Livonian war. Perhaps alphabetical order is appropriate. A dash rather than a hyphen seems appropriate between the opposing parties in a war (unless a combining form is used such as Russo-Livonian war of 1480–1481). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 21:08, 26 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:00, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Rivergate Mall → RiverGate Mall – While both variations are used, most reliable sources (such as news articles and the mall's official website) use "RiverGate" over "Rivergate." BlueShirtz (talk) 22:30, 26 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:54, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Mozart's name → Names of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart – Harmonization with similar articles Juwan (talk) 23:50, 26 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – MountainView Hospital, Las Vegas → MountainView Hospital – There is no other hospital called "MountainView" so the ",Las Vegas" modifier isn't needed. Bait30 ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 01:28, 27 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:48, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Yuta Nakamoto → Yuta – Propose moving Yuta Nakamoto to Yuta per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Regarding WP:COMMONNAME rationale: *Article subject uses mononym professionally and almost all English-language sources refer to him as "Yuta" rather than full name. **Examples: Korea Joongang Daily, Star News Korea, Hollywood Reporter, USA Today, Nikkei, L'Officiel Singapore, NME, Vogue Singapore Cosmopolitan Regarding WP:PRIMARYTOPIC rationale: *Yuta is currently a redirect to Yūta. **Yuta average daily redirect views: 2 **Yūta average daily page views 18 **Yuta Nakamoto average daily page views 223. The few people looking for the name Yūta could easily be directed to their intended destination by a hatnote on the Yuta Nakamoto article. RachelTensions (talk) 02:32, 27 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:00, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Niigata Sogo Television → NST Niigata Sogo Television – Current corporate name as of 2019. VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 03:14, 20 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 ^{[𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]} 03:36, 27 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 03:56, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Ojuelegba, Lagos → Ojuelegba – I'm requesting this article to be renamed because there isn't another place with the name "Ojuelegba". Ojuelegba is the primary topic and there's no need for Lagos to be included in the title. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 15:06, 25 September 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 162 etc. (talk) 01:55, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Ojuelegba → Ojuelegba (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

(Discuss) – Juan Rivera (wrongful conviction) → Wrongful conviction of Juan Rivera – Juan Rivera is a person, not a wrongful conviction. He seems notable only for being wrongfully convicted (WP:BIO1E / WP:BLP1E). There was a previous RM for this article which failed, but that was for a different suggestion. The proposed title would provide WP:NATURAL disambiguation. Similar comments apply to the other two. The lead section of the Paul Blackburn article says he was wrongfully convicted, but it seems to be a matter of a lack of sufficient (properly obtained) evidence rather than an exoneration, perhaps the more conservative "overturned" is more accurate in that instance. The Robert Jones case also appeared poised to be retried when the charges were dropped. That may be the most difficult one. There is a BBC article that points pretty firmly toward a different suspect but there was no official exoneration as far as I can tell – the prosecution just declined to retry the case after the conviction was overturned. Rivera received a substantial compensation for his wrongful conviction, but there appears to have been no official declaration that Jones and Blackburn were actually innocent (as far as I know). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 01:00, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Robert Jones (wrongful conviction) → Wrongful conviction of Robert Jones
- Paul Blackburn (overturned conviction) → Overturned conviction of Paul Blackburn

(Discuss) – Picross → Picross (video game series) – Picross is the name of the pencil-and-paper puzzle which serve as the basis for these video games, that previously was a redirect to Nonogram which is the more common name for those puzzles. In terms of this move, the pencil-and-paper topic is far more the PRIMARYTOPIC than this video game series which is based off that. Note that this would also mean a recreaction of the Picross to Nonogram redirect after this move. Masem (t) 00:18, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 3, 2024

(Discuss) – Albury line → Albury line (disambiguation) – The current names imply that V/Line is part of the name. V/Line is the current operator, but the natural name is simply X line (see for example [17] on the V/Line website). Except in the cases of the Gippsland and Warrnambool lines, the disambiguation pages do not disambiguate lines and services with the same name. Mackensen (talk) 22:14, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Bedingfield → Bedingfield, Suffolk – It seems unlikely that the two-sentence stub delineating the village (population 404) plus a list of three names under section header "Notable residents" is primary over Bedingfield (surname) which lists 14 names plus Henry Bedingfeld (disambiguation) with an additional six names. Also, the Bedingfeld dab page, which lists 19 names, can be probably merged into the Bedingfield (surname) page since, among those 19 names, only three are spelled "Bedingfeld", while the remaining 16 are spelled "Bedingfield". The form proposed in the nomination — Bedingfield, Suffolk — is based upon entries under Category:Villages in Suffolk. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 20:01, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Bedingfield (disambiguation) → Bedingfield

(Discuss) – Danny Cohen (television executive) → Danny Cohen (media executive) – The present name is outdated and inaccurate. Cohen is a media executive working with a large variety of media forms aside from just television. C at Access (talk) 15:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 14:34, 26 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 17:20, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Bektashi Order → Bektashism – WP:COMMONNAME; * Brill Publishers: "Bektashism" 369 results - "Bektashi Order" 270 results * Google Scholar: "Bektashism" 2,790 results - "Bektashi Order" 2,290 results * Google Ngrams results also gives a significant lead to "Bektashism" over "Bektashi Order." * And for consistency with related articles such as Bektashism in Albania, Bektashism and folk religion. There was also a previous attempt to move, though a poor one so I have requested a better one. Hoping for a quick move! TheSyrianSipahi (talk) 16:13, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Baby, The Stars Shine Bright → Baby, the Stars Shine Bright (apparel) – New York Times (link), The Cut (link), and The Mercury News (link) uses the lowercase "t" for "the." Victoria & Albert Museum (link) uses both capitalizations, but there seems to be more of a precedence using the lowercase version. Even the English websites use the lowercase spelling (see the NYC location and SF location). I'm also open for it to be renamed Baby, the Stars Shine Bright (clothing). lullabying (talk) 01:24, 23 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:12, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Baby, the Stars Shine Bright → Baby, the Stars Shine Bright (album)

(Discuss) – List of armed conflicts involving Poland against Turkey → List of Polish–Ottoman wars – All these wars involved the Ottoman Empire, not the modern Republic of Turkey. The main category is Category:Polish–Ottoman wars, while armed conflicts involved country A against country B does not follow established title conventions, and might have WP:POV issues. Per WP:TITLECON, it should be List of Polish–Ottoman wars. NLeeuw (talk) 14:39, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon → Third Lebanon War – reliable sources that say 3rd Lebanon War: 1. https://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-third-lebanon-war-is-underway-what-you-need-to-know/ "Here’s what to know about Israel’s incipient Third Lebanon War." 2. https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/the-third-lebanon-war-between-israel-and-hezbollah-has-begun-whats-next/ "The Second Lebanon War lasted for thirty-four days in 2006. The length of the third war will depend largely on how quickly Hezbollah will come to the table." 3. https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-822644 "Here’s what to know about Israel’s incipient Third Lebanon War." (for some reason, identical to imes of Israel page? but doesnt change what it says) 4. https://thedispatch.com/article/has-the-third-lebanon-war-begun/ No mention of third war in the main body, but the title does. 5. https://wavellroom.com/2024/09/04/on-the-brink-of-a-third-lebanon-war-can-israel-overcome-hezbollah-this-time/ Ditto Genabab (talk) 14:22, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Lego Racers → Lego Racers (Lego theme) – Primary topic over Lego Racers. The current content of Lego Racers could be moved to Lego Racers (Lego theme), following the same naming scheme as The Lego Batman Movie (Lego theme) is to the primary The Lego Batman Movie. Sceeegt (talk) 19:31, 20 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:15, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Lego Racers (video game) → Lego Racers

(Discuss) – LGBT pride → LGBTQ pride – The page was moved from Gay pride to LGBT pride a few years ago in recognition that this article is about Pride of the community, not just exclusively the Gay community, despite the term Gay pride still being higher in use than LGBT pride was at the time, so the consensus for the article was explicitly to deviate from exclusively applying WP:COMMONNAME as a compound word in the move in 2022 in recognition that the true common name nowadays is just Pride without any qualifiers. Now as a followup some years later, I propose we move it to LGBTQ pride in recognition of the community continuing to evolve and explicitly adding the Q as was also recently done in the main article LGBTQ (RM discussion) in recognition of LGBTQ replacing just LGBT. The person that contested the bold move argued that WP:COMMONNAME applied, but as I pointed out, this article is already not named in line with strict common name of the combined term, but in recognition of the community as the true common name today is simply "Pride" (in line with the sibling articles Pride Month and Pride parade, which doesn't need a qualifier, so no suffix or prefix is needed to disambiguate) without any qualifiers, but since the article requires a qualifier to differentiate it from just the English word Pride, it was then decided to add LGBT for it, which was the common name for the community at large at the time, consistent with the parent article, which was also LGBT at the time and instead of using Pride (LGBT) it was decided to use LGBT Pride per WP:NATURAL to use a prefix, not a suffix, so the current article title should not be interpreted as a compound word, but instead is just a natural combination instead of suffix disambiguation. Following this now, I believe means we should continue to now also follow WP:CONSUB for consistent titling of sub-articles related to the parent title. This is also supported if we combine LGBTQ pride and Queer pride, which is about double that of just LGBT pride per Google Ngram and this also shows that LGBT pride is on a downwards trend since 2017, while LGBTQ pride and Queer pride both are on an upwards trajectory, both individually, as well as combined having overtaken just LGBT pride since 2016. The other alternative would be to break from the natural title disambiguation and call the aticle Pride (LGBTQ) in recognition that the name of the article is just Pride and that the prefix or suffix are just disambiguators from Pride (disambiguation) terms. Raladic (talk) 19:13, 24 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 14:12, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – ʽAsir Province → Asir – per WP:CONCISE, WP:COMMONNAME Abo Yemen ✉ 14:10, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Typhoon Bebinca (2024) → Typhoon Bebinca – This storm is significantly bigger then the other storms with the same name, with none of them taking up this name. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 11:13, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – No 32–04 \ vd → Kremlin report "No 32–04 \ vd" – The current name is too anonymous a combination of letters and numbers to be a title people would remember. A title should give some sort of clue about the topic. The new title gives those numbers some context. Valjean (talk) (PING me) 01:51, 24 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 10:34, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Philippos Alexandreia F.C. → A.E. Alexandreia F.C. – The club was dissolved in 2018 and then refounded in 2019–2020 as A.E. Alexandreia F.C. as Asd199023's edits suggest. The same user (now blocked) attempted the move as a cut-and-paste move, which has since been reverted. GTrang (talk) 14:04, 25 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. SilverLocust 💬 08:40, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Enhanced interrogation techniques → Use of torture under George W. Bush – It seems like the last time this was debated, much of the content of the page and the WP:RS consensus was not present. Now, the article itself shows near unanimous agreement that EIT = torture. I don't have a good replacement name, but the current name has about as much support as "Shower Rooms in Nazi Germany". For example: "According to ABC news in 2007, the CIA removed waterboarding from its list of acceptable interrogation techniques in 2006." If these techniques were "enhanced", why are they no longer used? Even the group the put that name out there doesn't believe in the techniques anymore. It was a branding exercise, not a meaningful summary or specifier on the techniques used. Compare to Enhanced driver's license and Enhanced Fujita scale. I just skimmed the article and the only people I could find calling it not-torture in the modern-ish era are: Bush administration officials, and NPR in 2009 (15 years ago). NPR has since published the term in scare quotes^[1], leading one to wonder how useful the descriptor is. I notice the page for Armenian genocide is not the "events of 1915" (one of the Turkish euphemisms for the genocide), for example.

References

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Anonymous-232 (talk) 05:13, 26 September 2024 (UTC)). — Relisting. SilverLocust 💬 08:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Nautical Museum of Litochoro → Maritime Museum of Litochoro – This is the official name in English (http://nmlitohorou.gr/index.php/en/contact). See also the other museums in Category:Maritime museums in Greece 83.235.190.181 (talk) 07:29, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Nautical Museum of Crete → Maritime Museum of Crete – This is the official name in English (http://mar-mus-crete.gr/en/the-museum/). See also the other museums in Category:Maritime museums in Greece. 83.235.190.181 (talk) 07:20, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – John Purser → John Purser (musician) – Considering historical significance and page views versus John Purser (mathematician), there just is not a primary topic. However, moving this page to create a disambiguation page would contain just this topic and the mathematician (WP:TWODABS) with possibly John Griffith (engineer) as a "See also" ... so I'm not going to be WP:BOLD here, and felt this needs discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 06:45, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Indo-Parthian Kingdom → Indo-Parthian kingdom – Appears to be pretty much uniformly lowercase kingdom in sources. Dicklyon (talk) 05:15, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Virginia Tech → Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University – The November 2012 discussion has several strong arguments in favor of never changing the name to Virginia Tech. Georgia Tech is the only example cited that doesn't use its formal name; all other technical schools such as MIT and Caltech use their official names in their article titles. Other schools such as USC and West Point also use their formal name as their article titles. 50.47.244.81 (talk) 03:51, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – FIU Stadium → Pitbull Stadium – Pitbull acquired the naming rights in August. This is now the WP:COMMONNAME, per reliable sources [18][19][20] 162 etc. (talk) 03:50, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Template:VND → Template:Vietnamese đồng – Per WP:TG, Template function should be clear from the template name, but redirects can be created to assist everyday use of very popular templates. For people who are unfamiliar with ISO 4217 (i.e. the vast majority of people), the function of the template is very much not clear from the template name – clearly violating TG. Therefore, we should expand the name per WP:TG and keep a redirect from the ISO 4217 names. Using the full name is also consistent with numerous other templates in Category:Currency templates following Template talk:Chinese yuan#Requested move 8 September 2024. I selected the name with diacritics because it matches our mainspace article Vietnamese đồng; the diacritic-less {{Vietnamese dong}} already exists as a redirect (and therefore can be used by editors when writing articles, just like how {{VND}} will continue to work). I would be okay if we renamed to {{Vietnamese dong}}, though I would prefer to be consistent with our mainspace article. House Blaster (talk • he/they) 02:17, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Bellevue Transit Center → Bellevue Downtown station – Name should reflect the station's actual name, capitalization of "station" is contingent on the discussion at Talk:Symphony station (Sound Transit) LinkLightRail (talk) 04:31, 7 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 20:07, 18 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 14:25, 25 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 02:03, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Brandon Johnson (athlete) → Brandon Johnson (runner) – WP:NCSP Joeykai (talk) 01:40, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 2, 2024

(Discuss) – Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present) → Israel–Hezbollah war (2023–present) – First, there has been significant escalation in the recent weeks of this conflict. Israel has conducted widespread airstrikes on Lebanon, assassinated senior officials of Hezbollah, including its leader, and invaded Lebanon. This is not just a conflict anymore. Second, reliable sources that previously also called it a conflict are beginning to use the term "war". For example, The New York Times, Washington Post, and CNN have begun to label this a war. The case for this is strong, and "Israel-Hezbollah war" has been used more commonly than "Third Lebanon War", another proposed name for this conflict. Personisinsterest (talk) 23:51, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Over Your Dead Body → Over Your Dead Body (film) – The little-seen (box office:$1.1 million) Japanese film does not appear to be primary since WP:ONEOTHER entry Over Your Dead Body (novel) is part of a popular series. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:32, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Over Your Dead Body (disambiguation) → Over Your Dead Body

(Discuss) – United National Movement (Georgia) → United National Movement – This article should be moved to "United National Movement", with the current "United National Movement" being moved to "United National Movement (disambiguation)" page. This UNM is clearly the largest, most significant and the only relevant one. It is additionally the only UNM which either has parliamentary representation or is not defunct. Large political party's such as Law and Justice have pages without stipulating the country as is is clearly the largest L&J party despite others existing in the world. UNM article should follow a similar example. Zlad! (talk) 21:26, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- United National Movement → United National Movement (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

(Discuss) – First Periodic Review of Scottish Parliament Boundaries → First Periodic Review of Scottish Parliament boundaries – to match 2023 Periodic Review of Westminster constituencies; by WP:LOWERCASE, MOS:CAP, and WP:NCCAPS, "boundaries" should be a common noun that should be lowercase; the Scottish Parliament has "constituencies" and "electoral regions" so boundaries; matching the title otherwise ([21]) would still be ideal DotCoder (talk) 20:52, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Second Periodic Review of Scottish Parliament Boundaries → Second Periodic Review of Scottish Parliament boundaries

(Discuss) – Quonset Hut Studio → Bradley Studios – The studio that came to be known as the "Quonset hut studio" was the second of two studios (Studio B) at Bradley Studios. Bradley Studios was later purchased by Columbia Studios, who retained the "Quonset hut studio" as Columbia Studio B, but built a new Columbia Studio A as part of the Music Row complex. While Studio B has generally been known as the "Quonset hut studio", it's only part of the story of that recording facility, and even the historical marker at the site is about Bradley Studios and not only the "Quonset hut studio". Now that the article has been expanded to encompass Bradley Studios and later Columbia Studios, I think the article would more appropriately be named Bradley Studios, with a Redirect page for the "Quonset hut studio". synthfiend (talk) 22:27, 24 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 19:03, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Postmodern television → List of postmodern television programs – Article as written is a list of programs so would be better if the name reflected that RJFJR (talk) 02:45, 11 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:55, 25 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 19:00, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – 2024 Israeli military operation in the West Bank → Operation Summer Camps – While the operation has been given two names (by the two sides) "Operation Summer Camps" appears to be the name most widely used in sources. (Simply look up "Operation Summer Camps" vs "Horror of the Camps operation" in Google news to see what I mean.) Additionally, using the Israeli name of the operation is also in parallel to Operation Defensive Shield, which is, interestingly, the other big large-scale West Bank operation to which this ongoing one has been compared to. Evaporation123 (talk) 04:51, 24 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 17:27, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Éric Borel → Cuers massacre – This could go either way, but I think this article would be better scoped as an article on the event and not the perpetrator, given WP:BIO1E. Admittedly, a very large proportion of the coverage on the event is about Borel, so even as an event-based article it will probably still largely be about him, but given that he has no notability outside of it and how the event is covered I believe it will be easier to structure and improve as an event-based article. The common title for the event in French is "Tuerie de Cuers", literally Cuers massacre. There were killings in other locations but the sources call it this. This incident is usually referred to without the year in French given how notorious it was (I think it's the worst non-terror mass shooting in France), but admittedly is not too well known overseas so specifying the year may be necessary. PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:53, 24 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:52, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – GoToGate → Etraveli Group – GoToGate is a part of Etraveli Group and this article has been used to house information about Etraveli Group, to the point that this article now has two info boxes. Per the suggestion from FeldBum, I would like to make this move request and later propose a draft to re-shift the focus to Etraveli Group, which has more and better information about it in reliable sourcing, including in Reuters, Financial Times and Bloomberg. Sayna At Etraveli (talk) 09:01, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Larnoch Road murders → Killing of Leah Stephens – All convictions have been overturned, with one defendant possibly facing a retrial.[22] Per the WP:DEATHS flowchart, this would seem to be an appropriate title pending any retrial that may take place. Muzilon (talk) 05:33, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Benjamin Abalos Jr. → Benhur Abalos – Most RS use the name "Benhur". Examples Inquirer (Uses "Benhur Abalos Jr."), GMA, Rappler, Sun Star (Uses "Benhur Abalos Jr."), etc. "Benhur Abalos Jr." is also popular, even more popular than his birth name "Benjamin Abalos Jr,", but that's kinda wrong as his father was not named "Benhur". Howard the Duck (talk) 04:57, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – John Whitney (industrialist) → Major John Whitney – I understand honourifics are avoided in article titles but Whitney is referred to as either 'Major John Whitney' or 'Major Whitney' in every source I've seen bar one. It also serves as a way to disambiguate the article without the current unnatural title Traumnovelle (talk) 03:08, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Chevalier d'Éon → Chevalière d'Éon – I did not know about the controversial move procedure, apologies. The reasoning for the move remains the same as previously laid out without dissent having been voiced since (here) In short, the RfC from 2014 was inconclusive in establishing any concensus and since then it has been shown that d'Eon used female pronouns in referring to themselves in letters. The discussion on this talk page since has shown most users believe that this is sufficient to make the change. Given MOS:IDENTITY position on the presentation of transwomen lending towards a consistent portrayal in line with their gender identity, it follows that using the masculine form of the title as 'Chevalier' instead of the feminine form used after their openly announcing their female identity is not in line with the article title policy employed for any other transgender individual. Relm (talk) 01:41, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Weak artificial intelligence → Narrow artificial intelligence – the term "Weak artificial intelligence" is ambiguous and confusing, contrary to the term "Narrow artificial intelligence", which is basically AI designed for a narrow range of tasks. This is also most of what the article is about, although we could keep a section covering the term "Weak AI". The title "Narrow AI" can also be considered. Alenoach (talk) 00:43, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 1, 2024

(Discuss) – Power Four conferences → Power conferences (college football) – While the "Power Five" conferences died with the old Pac-12, it's unclear and too soon to determine if this "Power Four" grouping has long-term significance in the 12-team playoff era. Reliable sources also alternately describe two tiers in the current power structure, with the B1G/SEC as "Power Two" conferences above the Big 12 (diminished by the loss of Texas and Oklahoma) and the ACC (with Florida State and others currently actively trying to break out of the conference). In the moved article, Automatic Qualifying, Power Five, Power Four, and Power Two would all be included as MOS:BOLDALTNAMES in the lead. Power conferences (college football) is a title that is inclusive of both the BCS / Power Five notable historic era that makes up much of the article and both options for the Power Four / Power Two current reality. This is supported by reliable sources: :Washigton Post, 2023: The Power Five concept that existed for more than a decade is dead. The sport will be framed around the “Power Two” conferences and everyone else for the next decade. “Everyone else” includes a haphazardly assembled, coast-to-coast Big 12, which picked Utah, Arizona, Arizona State and former Big 12 member Colorado off the Pac-12’s carcass to compensate for losing Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC. Then there’s the ACC, whose East Coast members are leaning against annexing Pac-12 castaways California and Stanford. The article title Power conferences (college football) and/or Power conferences without disambiguation was supported by most participants in the recent requested move, with the closer stating While there's some suggestion that other names may be even better, there's no direct consensus on that... but there is consensus that the proposed name is preferable to the current name, so moved as specified. If people want to explore other moves in future RMs, they can go ahead. I'm doing that now. In my opinion the "(college football)" disambiguation is needed, as Power Six conferences atop the Mid-majors is a term that exists / existed in College Basketball. PK-WIKI (talk) 21:51, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Balancing Rocks → Balancing rocks of Zimbabwe – As far as I can tell, this term is not really a proper noun for a specific place with balancing rocks or for a specific group of balancing rocks and is not unambiguous, as there are balancing rocks in a lot of other places besides Zimbabwe. The most famous ones in Zimbabwe are apparently in or near Matobo National Park and are sometimes called the Chiremba balancing rocks or the Epworth balancing rocks, and one particular group of such rocks is called the Mother and Child Kopje and is featured on the banknotes of Zimbabwe, but this article seems to be about balancing rocks in Zimbabwe in general. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:20, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Heavenly Delusion (TV series) → Tengoku Daimakyo – Official international title, used by Disney VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 18:06, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Spider-Boy (Marvel Comics) → Spider-Boy – (also, Spider-Boy to Spider-Boy (disambiguation)). It's clearly the main use. Even if it was created recently, the character already has a self-titled ongoing comic book and has appeared in others. Spider-Boy (Amalgam Comics) is just a one-shot comic, that will never be used again because of its tangled copyrights (it's shared by Marvel and DC, two competitors that rarely release things together; the comic was clearly never meant to last for long), and Spider Boy (novel) is just a novel of borderline notability. Cambalachero (talk) 17:48, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Spider-Boy → Spider-Boy (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

(Discuss) – 2011 South Sudanese independence referendum → South Sudanese independence referendum – The inclusion of the year in the current title is unnecessary disambiguation because this was the only independence referendum in South Sudan’s history. There are no other referendums of this nature that require disambiguation by date. Other Wikipedia articles related to referendums generally avoid using years in the titles unless there is a need to distinguish between multiple similar events. So, the simpler title is more appropriate and aligns with Wikipedia’s naming policies, mostly WP:CONCISE. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 16:22, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – 2023 BC Port strike → 2023 British Columbia port strike – When "BC" is used after a year name, it usually means "Before Christ", so the abbreviation should be expanded to avoid confusion. Also, "port" is not a proper noun, so it should be all lowercase. JsfasdF252 (talk) 16:09, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Decapod → Decapod (disambiguation) – 'Decapod (disambiguation)' was created for the express purpose of redirecting to 'Decapod'. However, 'Decapod' clearly has a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. 'Decapod' is the common name for the order Decapoda that houses all crabs, all shrimp, all prawns, all lobsters, and all crayfish. There are thousands of articles that fall under Decapoda and whose subjects can be called decapods. I've seen at this point several dozen wikilinks formatted as [[Decapoda|decapod]] because we direct to a disambig instead of a PT. ~~At the bare minimum, even if a PT somehow isn't established, 'Decapod' would point to 'Decapod (disambiguation)', not vice-versa.~~ TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 08:16, 1 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 15:43, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers → Ultra Street Fighter II – Simpler common title and would hence follow the format also used in the articles Super Street Fighter II, Street Fighter II Turbo, and several others where the long full name isn't the article name. Sceeegt (talk) 15:00, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Parsley massacre → 1937 massacre of Haitians in the Dominican Republic – As stated in the article and backed up by citations, the current article title has been shown by academic research to be a misnomer. Furthermore, it is less recognizable than a descriptive title and there is no evidence that it is the WP:COMMONNAME. (Although it's hard to count, from Google Scholar results it appears that the majority of sources about this topic are using some kind of descriptive title,[23] rather than Parsley massacre.) (t · c) buidhe 14:44, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Homoleptic → Homoleptic and Heteroleptic compounds – Inclusive title Jeaucques Quœure (talk) 14:09, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Capros aper → Capros – Per WP:MONOTYPICFAUNA, "Capros" is the best title for this article, as long as disambiguation isn't required. I think this is the case – i.e., this fish is the primary topic for "Capros". Capros is currently a disambiguation page, but the only other entry there is CapROS, which is WP:DIFFCAPS. Special:PrefixIndex/Capros also shows Capros River, but that isn't even mentioned at its target. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:24, 23 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 14:01, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Capros → Capros (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

(Discuss) – Tianjin University Georgia Tech Shenzhen Institute → Georgia Tech Shenzhen Institute, Tianjin University – Revert undiscussed move to the previous, and the official English name of this institution, which is commonly used and recognized by Chinese government, media and academic databases. Tim Wu (talk) 09:44, 14 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 00:21, 24 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 ^{[𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]} 13:31, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Cristina Castro → Cristina Castro (politician) – No PRIMARYTOPIC, Cristina Castro (athlete) exists with same name. Create DAB at base name. Ortizesp (talk) 13:30, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Flag of Macha → Flags from Macha – The current title is a bit misleading, firstly it discusses two flags, secondly "Flag of Macha" suggests that this is the official flag of that village, not a specific artifact found there. I know that the current title is technically correct, but since it's about flags, I think "Flags from Macha" would be a better option. Swiãtopôłk (talk) 20:13, 23 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 ^{[𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]} 13:26, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Tangier Incident (film) → Tangier Incident – Sole such main title header, thus obviating need for the parenthetical qualifier "(film)". As for the entry delineating a relatively minor historical event from nearly 120 years ago, which is not known as "Tangier incident" and which currently does not carry a hatnote pointing to the film, a hatnote to the effect — "For the Tangier Crisis of 1905–06, see First Moroccan Crisis" — would suffice atop the film's entry. If consensus approves, a lowercase header — "Tangier incident" — could be created as a redirect to First Moroccan Crisis. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 19:43, 23 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 ^{[𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]} 13:23, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Gheorghe Fieraru → Gheorghe Ferariu – his official name is Ferariu Ferarium (talk) 11:43, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – High Speed Rail Authority → High Speed Rail Authority (Australia) – To differentiate it from any other high speed rail authorities in other countries (previous, current and future). MiasmaEternal☎ 08:49, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Dr. Syama Prasad Mookerjee Tunnel → Chenani–Nashri Tunnel – Suggest title is widely accepted (WP:COMMONNAME) by the reliable sources [24], [25], [26], [27]. If you search the current title on Google, it will display Chenani–Nashri Tunnel [28] It seems the tunnel has been renamed to Dr. Syama Prasad Mookerjee Tunnel but that can be fixed in the lead section as "Chenani–Nashri Tunnel, Officially known as Dr. Syama Prasad Mookerjee Tunnel". TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 08:48, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Czech Republic → Czechia – So, this is a perennial topic, but we said we would return to it in October to re-evaluate in the light of the Olympics, which is the latest in a long string of contexts in which we have recently seen a rapid change in usage. Before we get into arguments on the details, can we perhaps first have clarity on the criteria? These are laid down at Wikipedia:Article titles. May I suggest that everybody read that before they comment here? I think we can save ourselves a lot of time if we all agree to follow policy. Past discussions have suffered a lot from misinformation about this. Assuming that a subject has more than one title in reliable sources, the choice should be made primarily on five key criteria (shortcut WP:CRITERIA): recognizability (defined to mean that someone familiar with the topic will know what is meant), naturalness (meaning people will find it in a search), precision (what is most correct), concision (fewer words are better than more) and consistency (the article title follows a similar pattern to other articles on parallel topics). The policy page then goes on to talk about the rule of thumb that it is helpful to find the most commonly recognizable name (shortcut WP:COMMONNAME), not as an end in itself, but because this will often shed light on what best meets the five criteria. The logic is that if experts in the field have come to a consensus on terminology, they will usually have alighted on something that is recognizable, natural, precise, concise and consistent. So for present purposes, common name means what is commonly used by relevant authoritative voices. It specifically does not mean we should follow whatever is statistically most commonly used by people on the street who may have limited familiarity with the topic, and the policy page warns against giving too much weight to Google hits and the likes. Rather, "[i]n determining which of several alternative names is most frequently used, it is useful to observe the usage of major international organizations, major English-language media outlets, quality encyclopedias, geographic name servers, major scientific bodies, and notable scientific journals." I hope we can agree on those principles. So how do they apply to this case? Here's my take. Czechia seems to me to fit all the five criteria, and on three of the five, it fits better than Czech Republic. # recognizability – both options are equally recognizable; we’re way beyond the point where anyone might not know what is meant by Czechia. # naturalness – this is subjective, but I think people will find us, so again I don’t think there is anything here to speak against the move. # precision – this one matters. The most correct name for a country or a people is the name it chooses for itself. The Czech government has asked the English-speaking world to use Czechia. That fact trumps all others on the question of correctness. # concision – one word rather than two is not a massive difference, but Czechia wins there too. # consistency with other articles – this is the biggie. I can’t think of any other country for which Wikipedia uses the long, official-sounding name as the article title when there is also a short, colloquial one. Actually, the policy page on article names specifically gives the example that we should use North Korea, not Democratic People's Republic of Korea. So our article title Czech Republic is a total outlier. So on precision and consistency there are strong arguments for a move, and the other three criteria certainly don’t speak against one. I think those arguments have been made and won long ago. The reason we have not had a consensus to change is because of judgments about what is the common name. In my opinion these have been problematic for two reasons. First, it has been repeated here like a mantra that common name is all that matters – in fact the policy page is quite clear that common name is subsidiary to the five naming criteria. And secondly, it has been treated as though common name means what is statistically most frequently used – sorry, but if we based this on a vox pop on the streets of Birmingham or Chicago, we would end up moving back to Czechoslovakia! Google hit counts can be part of our thinking, but not a big part of it. Rather, common name means: what is used by people professionally involved with the topic. Here we have to be careful to look at recent sources, because usage is changing fast. The policy page gives us suggestions for how to decide this, and if we follow these, the argument for Czechia now being the common name is beginning to look strong: # The usage of international organizations – it is significant that this is the policy page’s number-one pointer to common name, and here we have observed a landslide in the direction of Czechia in the last couple of years. It is now used by the diplomatic arm of the Czech government, the EU, the UN, NATO, the Council of Europe, the British Foreign Office, the American State Department, the CIA, the Olympics, UEFA, the Eurovision Song Contest, and many, many others. # Media – I don’t have an overview here, so I’ll let someone else discuss that, but I’m certainly seeing it in the newspapers. # Quality encyclopedias – I’m not sure there are any recent enough to reflect current changes. # Geographic name servers – A cursory survey suggests these usually recognize Czechia. I think the likes of Google Maps would be highly relevant here, and it now uses Czechia. # Scientific bodies and journals – My impressions are probably anecdotal, but the university people I know in Czech studies have been using Czechia for years. We see it prescribed in style-sheets for academic publishing. I’m sure there is a lot of evidence in both directions that other people can add here, but please concentrate on these kinds of authorities. Common name is NOT about hit-counts. Obviously even authorities who now prefer Czechia will still use Czech Republic wherever they would use French Republic or Republic of France. The point is not that the long form has gone, but that the short form is used when the short form of any other country would be used. I submit that for the most part, the relevant authorities have now reached that point. Doric Loon (talk) 04:32, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Siege of Gerona (disambiguation) → Sieges of Gerona – Several issues I hope to address with these proposed moves. First, it makes little sense to have the "second" and "third" sieges as titles but to call the first event a battle; of the three is was the most like a battle, but the distinction is confusing in this case. It does seem that [ordinal] siege of Gerona is the most common manner of disambiguating the various events. If the first segment were to carry the WP:COMMONNAME "Battle" then it should not carry a parenthetical qualifier, being already WP:NATURALly disambiguated and the primary topic for the term; the base name Battle of Girona already redirects there and is WP:MISPLACED. Second, when used alone without additional context, "Siege of Gerona" does seem to refer to the successful final siege as a primary topic, and currently redirects there. I am proposing to leave this as a primary redirect and turn the disambiguation page into a set index at the plural, but I would also support having the set index in place of the redirect at the singular. Third, while I personally feel "Siege" in these titles is part of the proper noun, use in sources is mixed, and most "siege" articles on enwiki do not take siege as part of the proper noun (in contrast to "Battle of..." which is almost always part of the proper noun; I don't see the distinction) and WP:MILCAPS is vague, so for now let's go for being the most consistent. Lastly, as for the Girona vs. Gerona issue, there has been past move reversions and discussion about this (e.g. Talk:Third siege of Girona#Girona/Gerona), and we should reach consensus here. I am open to either spelling, but am proposing a return to Gerona because it does seem a majority of reliable sources use this spelling, and that is the criterion upon which we should base our choice. On the other hand, the modern spelling of the city is the Catalan spelling. Regardless, the set index/disambiguation page should use the same spelling as the articles. Overall, I am open to discussing and considering any and all variations of this proposal, but the status quo should not be kept. Mdewman6 (talk) 04:03, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Cantonese Pinyin → ILE romanization of Cantonese – Per above, whose author I thank for pointing out just how poorly this article is named. I am frankly not sure about the proposed title, but it seems serviceable. If it's not ideal, better considered suggestions are encouraged. Remsense ‥ 论 03:53, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Kingdom of Jesus Christ compound standoff → Arrest of Apollo Quiboloy – Not a standoff, as the cops were allowed to get in; not a siege, because this was not in a warzone. The cops' mission was to arrest Quiboloy, and that should be the name of the article. Howard the Duck (talk) 02:44, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Kim Hyo-yeon → Hyoyeon – Obvious case of WP:COMMONNAME. Subject has never used her full name professionally is widely known and referred to mononomously as "Hyoyeon". "Hyoyeon" is unambiguous and currently just exists as a redirect to this article. Only other option would be "Hyo", which she started using relatively recently, but "Hyoyeon" is still by far the most common way she is referred to by reliable sources. References to "Hyoyeon" in relatively recent English language reliable sources: The Chosun Ilbo [29], Korea JoongAng Daily [30], NME [31], Maeil Business Newspaper [32], VN Express [33], NME [34], United Press International [35], South China Morning Post [36], ABS-CBN News [37], In normal circumstances this could probably just be an uncontroversial WP:BOLDMOVE but there was a previous discussion 12 years ago that prevents this as a matter of policy - I'm surprised it's taken this long to be formally brought up again. RachelTensions (talk) 01:50, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Bill Murray (American football) → Bill Murray (American football coach) – avoid confusion with Bill Murray (offensive lineman) Joeykai (talk) 00:21, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Dorian Williams → Dorian Williams (equestrian) – not WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 00:15, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Davis Allen → Davis Allen (designer) – not WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 00:14, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Patrick Scales → Patrick Scales (musician) – not WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 00:14, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Ronnie Bell → Ronnie Bell (chemist) – not WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 00:14, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Antonio Johnson → Antonio Johnson (defensive tackle) – not WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 00:13, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Cam Smith → Cam Smith (artist) – not WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 00:13, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September 30, 2024

(Discuss) – Ibi, Spain → Ibi, Alicante – Same form as Cox, Alicante; Cañada, Alicante; Orba, Alicante; Pego, Alicante; Planes, Alicante; Rafal, Alicante; etc. Nuvolet (talk) 23:35, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Richard Lyons (business professor) → Richard Kent Lyons – WP:NATURAL. Lyons is now more widely known as the chancellor of the University of California, Berkeley than as a business professor. Cfls (talk) 22:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Albaida, Province of Valencia → Albaida, Valencia – Simplified form, like in Ador, Valencia. Nuvolet (talk) 22:45, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Obrimus (phasmid) → Obrimus – Obrimus is currently a disambiguation page, listing Bromius (son of Aegyptus) and Mage: The Awakening as two other targets. However, neither actually mentions an "Obrimus". Hippothoe and Actaeon both link to Bromius with the (piped) link text "Obrimus", so a hatnote could possibly be justified, but the phasmid definitely seems like the primary topic here. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:39, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Obrimus → Obrimus (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

(Discuss) – Republic of China (1912–1949) → Republican China – Primarily per the naturalness and concision WP:CRITERIA. The use of "Republican China" as a term referring to this periodization and its associated state is simply ubiquitous in English-language sources, such as The Cambridge History of China.^[1] By contrast, merely "Republic of China" is not used as a term referring specifically to the pre-1949 period, so a parenthetical disambiguator is arguably inappropriate. On that note, this change would also more elegantly distinguish the scope of this article from that of Taiwan. This specific move was previously suggested in 2018: suffice it to say, I did not find the opposing arguments convincing. Heading a few potential objections off at the pass: firstly, historiographical labels function perfectly well as article titles in situations like these, cf. July Monarchy, Revolutionary Catalonia, Nazi Germany. Secondly, several editors argued the terms are not synonymous, or that "Republican China" refers only to the mainland during this period; these seem clearly dubious to me, and no further explanation or evidence for such distinctions was provided in the previous discussion. One final note: I was motivated to pose this RM as the result an offsite discussion with Generalissima, who was asking about the current naming situation and pondering about starting an RM herself; I then offered to do it instead.

References

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- Twitchett, Denis Crispin; Fairbank, John King, eds. (1983) [1978]. Republican China, 1912–1949 (Part 1). Vol. 12. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-0-521-23541-9.
- Fairbank, John King; Feuerwerker, Albert, eds. (1986) [1978]. Republican China, 1912–1949 (Part 2). The Cambridge History of China. Vol. 13. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-0-521-24338-4.
- Gao, James Zheng (2009). Historical Dictionary of Modern China (1800-1949). Lanham, MD: Scarecrow. ISBN 0-8108-4930-5.

Remsense ‥ 论 00:47, 22 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 16:31, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- Republican China → Republican China (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

(Discuss) – Perspiration → Sweat – WP:COMMONNAME, in line with sweat gland and night sweats –Tobias (talk) 12:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 08:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:31, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Rococo Revival → Rococo revival – Per MOS:CAPS, the Wikipedia guidelines specify that we should render something as a proper name only if it is "consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of independent, reliable sources". However, looking at a pair of ngrams for this, one comparing the capitalised form of the bare name against other common capitalisations - [38] and the other including the word "was" afterwards, to eliminate false positives from titles and suchlike - [39] - we can see that while 20 or 30 years ago the title-case version was very dominant, in recent times it has dwindled to almost neck-and-neck. Thus the stipulation above is no longer met, and we should render this in sentence case. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 12:28, 21 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:29, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Wikipedia:Why is BFDI not on Wikipedia? → Wikipedia:Why is Battle for Dream Island not on Wikipedia? – I don't think having the show's name written out fully would be a bad idea. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 14:46, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Michael Hardy (attorney) → Michael Hardy – Although the singer's full name is Michael Hardy, there doesn't seem to be widespread use of that name in reference to him, as he's usually credited as just Hardy. Therefore, this can be presumed to be the primary topic for "Michael Hardy" Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 01:09, 23 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:21, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Dargwa language → Literary Dargwa language – The article talks about the literary variety of Dargin, which is a language family, not a standalone language. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 23:54, 22 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:19, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Walton-on-the-Hill → Walton-on-the-Hill, Surrey – No clear primary topic, the Surrey one has 310 views but the Staffordshire one has 44 and the Liverpool one has 1,616. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:01, 29 September 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:45, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – SS Ivernia → RMS Ivernia (1899) – I've been performing significant research on Ivernia at the Tyne and Wear Archives and Museums, and with other primary sources including ship's passenger lists and correspondence. These all indicate the ship was in fact issued a Royal Mail contract like its sisters, Saxonia and Carpathia . As such, like its sister, the article should be named RMS Ivernia (1899) in line with its sister, using its launch date for disambiguation. This probably means that RMS Ivernia should be also disambiguated to RMS Ivernia (1955). An example of evidence of this prefix that is publicly accessible can be found here: https://www.loc.gov/resource/magbell.04100128/?sp=1&st=image Where Alexander Graham Bell is writing to his wife using official Cunard Letterhead on the Ivernia, stating the RMS prefix, which would have been a highly controversial thing to do less than six months after its maiden voyage if it had not in fact been given contract for the prefix. Other examples include the ship's crew writing RMS on passenger lists, articles in contemporary engineering journals using the RMS prefix, and more, although many of these are not in the public domain. Conversely, all evidence the ship was named SS Ivernia come from secondary sources, possibly influenced in part by the wikipedia title, with hobbyist indexes of ships, wreck sites, and other such content. Tobin Dax (talk) 10:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- RMS Ivernia → RMS Ivernia (1955)

(Discuss) – First Morgan government → First Rhodri Morgan government – To avoid confusion with Eluned Morgan government DotCoder (talk) 10:02, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – LGBT rights by country or territory → LGBTQ rights by country or territory – per WP:CONSUB and MR/RM discussions and consensus on CfD, Portal, WProject --MikutoH ^talk! 23:50, 27 September 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). SilverLocust 💬 03:34, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Sexual disorder → Conditions related to sexual health – Update per ICD-11. Web-julio (talk) 03:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Insomniac (Green Day album) → Insomniac (album) – Likely WP:PRIMARYPDAB over Insomniac (Enrique Iglesias album), per a ~14:1 pageview ratio and per long-term pageviews. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 03:14, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September 29, 2024

(Discuss) – Observatory Circle (Washington, D.C.) → Observatory Circle (neighborhood) – Better disambiguation is needed because Observatory Circle is also in Washington, D.C. I think "neighborhood" is a less confusing disambiguator. --Another Believer _(Talk) 22:44, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Trump International Golf Club (Dubai) → Trump International Golf Club, Dubai – According to most primary sources, the name of the course directly includes the city's name, so the parentheses are not necessary. See here and here for example. I'd also like to bring up Trump National Golf Club, Los Angeles, Trump National Golf Club Philadelphia, and Trump National Golf Club Washington, D.C., which are all actually in adjacent cities instead of their namesakes, but are titled that way because that's their actual names. This requested move similarly applies to Trump International Golf Club (West Palm Beach) and any other Trump golf courses that include superfluous parentheses. Unnamed anon (talk) 21:42, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Charles III Philip, Elector Palatine → Charles III Philip – Precise and concise. Per the WP:Naming conventions (royalty and nobility) guideline and the WP:Article titles policy, article titles should not contain disambiguation when no disambiguation is needed. Surtsicna (talk) 21:36, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Maximilian II Emanuel, Elector of Bavaria → Maximilian II Emanuel
- Maximilian III Joseph, Elector of Bavaria → Maximilian III Joseph

(Discuss) – Dory → Dory (boat) – No pageviews[40] or long-term notability advantage ahead of Dory (fish); WP:NOPRIMARY. 162 etc. (talk) 21:10, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Dory (disambiguation) → Dory

(Discuss) – Amran District → 'Amran District – I assume that this should follow 'Amran Governorate and 'Amran. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 19:45, 21 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 21:09, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Matsieng Air Strip → Matsieng Aerodrome – Seems to be the predominant name (particularly in the sources about the crash). ("Matsieng Airstrip" without a space is also slightly more common than the current spelling according to Google Search.) 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 18:28, 22 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 21:04, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – John Pearce (entertainer) → John Pearce (singer) – Ambiguous with John Pearce (actor); primarily known for the Wiggles. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 19:40, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Nana (entertainer) → Nana (entertainer, born 1991) – Ambiguous with Nana (entertainer, born 2001) and Nana (rapper). Hameltion (talk | contribs) 19:34, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Jun (entertainer) → Jun (Seventeen singer) – (alternative titles welcome, perhaps Jun (entertainer, born ~~1997~~1996), though that's not ideal either) – Currently ambiguous with Lee Jun-young (entertainer), who comes up first in a search for jun actor. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 19:33, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Lee Jun-young → Lee Jun-young (disambiguation) – Clear primary topic by overwhelming pageviews (99.3%). Hameltion (talk | contribs) 19:28, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Lee Jun-young (entertainer) → Lee Jun-young

(Discuss) – Lee Jun-ho → Lee Jun-ho (disambiguation) – Revert 2016 move as clear primary topic by overwhelming pageviews (99.5%). Hameltion (talk | contribs) 19:23, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Lee Jun-ho (entertainer) → Lee Jun-ho

(Discuss) – Paul Whelan → Paul Whelan (disambiguation) – Primary topic by overwhelming pageviews (99% all-time, still 99% sans spikes) and, besides massive press coverage compared to other two, only notable Paul Whelan on first pages of Google Books. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 19:11, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Paul Whelan (security director) → Paul Whelan

(Discuss) – Anna Hall (athlete) → Anna Hall (heptathlete) – (alternatively Anna Hall (track and field)) Given Anna Hall (volleyball), per Wikipedia:NCSP § Athletics (track and field): To avoid the conflict between general sportspeople and the sport of athletics (track and field), it's best to disambiguate by event category rather than use a generic "(athlete)" suffix. It may also be worth considering moving to Anna Hall as the primary topic; the question is whether to count Anna Hall Roosevelt in the pageviews but I don't think the Roosevelt is notable under that name. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 18:55, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Billy Boyd → Billy Boyd (disambiguation) – Clear primary topic by pageviews (99.6%!—other three combined average four views/day) and, as a gesture toward long-term significance, ngrams spike in the wake of the actor's LOTR films. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 18:37, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Billy Boyd (actor) → Billy Boyd

(Discuss) – Kate Scott (presenter) → Kate Scott (British presenter) – Insufficient disambiguation, akin to (soccer) vs. (footballer). Alternatively, the British one should maybe return to Kate Abdo, by which she seems to be better known still. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 18:23, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Kate Scott (sportscaster) → Kate Scott (American sportscaster)

(Discuss) – Trump International Golf Club (West Palm Beach) → Trump International Golf Club (West Palm Beach, Florida) – Per parent article West Palm Beach, Florida. --Another Believer _(Talk) 18:22, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – 2024 CFL draft → 2024 CFL national draft – Now that CFL draft is ambiguous with CFL global draft, would it be better to have less ambiguous titles for the national drafts? Dicklyon (talk) 17:44, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Microsoft Flight Simulator 1.0 → Microsoft Flight Simulator (1982 video game) – "Microsoft Flight Simulator 1.0" is unofficial. The game was never referred to as that name. Æ's old account wasn't working (talk) 14:48, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Aimee Wiele → Aimée Van de Wiele – Correct spelling and capitalization according to Belgian conventional usage. 94.196.249.214 (talk) 14:44, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Russell Findlay (politician) → Russell Findlay – He is now the primary topic as he has recently been promoted to leader of the Scottish Conservatives, a fairly important post. The other person can be dealt with by a hatnote. PatGallacher (talk) 13:53, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Russell Findlay → Russell Findlay (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

(Discuss) – Dimerization (chemistry) → Dimerization – Dimerization already redirects to Dimerization (chemistry). Am I missing something here? Is there any other sense of the term that is not chemistry (even in the biochemical senses)? Maybe there is a good reason for the disambiguated title, but I am certainly not seeing it. BD2412 T 12:03, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Statutory rules of Northern Ireland → Statutory rule of Northern Ireland – Statutory instrument (UK), Scottish statutory instrument, Welsh statutory instrument, are all named in the singular. the gazette refers to it in singular DotCoder (talk) 09:38, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Vilyeyka → Vileika – WP:COMMONNAME: most common English name, which any general-purpose rules cannot trump. google ngram does not see 'Vilyeyka' in books at all --Altenmann >talk 21:40, 3 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 17:02, 11 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:26, 19 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 08:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Fiat New 500 → Fiat 500 (2020) – Fiat 500 is more common name for this vehicle, didn't even see New 500 name in official website. John123521 _{(Talk-Contib.)} 03:16, 22 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 07:59, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Capotain → ? – "Capotain(e)" appears to be a ghost word created by Walter Scott. The closest thing that can be found in early modern sources is "copataine", which occurs once in Shakespeare. The more usual terms for this kind of headwear were "copintank" and "sugarloaf hat". I suggest using one or the other as the title of the article. Zacwill (talk) 03:12, 22 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 07:56, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Anthony Gould → Anthony Gould (cricketer) – not WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 06:20, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Xavier Johnson → Xavier Johnson (basketball) – not WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 06:19, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Duke Riley → Duke Riley (artist) – not WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 06:18, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Eric Birgersson → Erik Birgersson – Only 19th century sources spell his name with "c". Compare the two post-1900 Google Books searches: * 1275+"Eric Birgersson" (no relevant results in any language) * 1275+"Erik Birgersson" (many relevant results, some in English) — Jähmefyysikko (talk) 20:41, 14 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 00:12, 22 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 04:53, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Wembo Airport → Wembo-Nyama Airport – Seems to be the more widespread name. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 03:32, 22 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 04:52, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – List of Roblox games → List of notable Roblox games – Despite its tagging as a dynamic list and the title implying that it is a comprehensive list of Roblox games, this page is instead intended to outline a few notable games which do not meet criteria for a full page. Therefore, this should probably be renamed as such, especially given that the inclusion criteria for games that can be added to this page need be notable themselves. This page also goes beyond the standard list format which would usually just use bullets or tables. FamiliarFlareon (talk) 04:01, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Sloboda → Sloboda (settlement) – Everything I said three months ago in #Requested move 22 May 2024 still holds, we just had so little interest. In summary, there is no primary topic here. I believe I addressed the sole complaint. Here's hoping we'll get more people to read this now. In the meantime, the usage statistics continue to show the same picture of a lack of a primary topic, the topics most commonly navigated to are consistently not about the settlement meaning. (See Clickstreams from the last three months hidden box below.) Even if we're unsure, I say we should move it and then do the same measurements again later, and see if reader behavior indicates we need to keep or revert. -- Joy (talk) 08:14, 24 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 07:10, 1 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 03:28, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Sloboda (disambiguation) → Sloboda

(Discuss) – Mboie Airport → Mboi Airport – Seems to be the more widespread name. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 02:24, 22 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 03:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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(Discuss) – Skunk River → Skunk River (Iowa) – Per WP:PRECISE, WP:PLACEDAB and WP:NCRIVER. This river flows through rural Iowa directly into the Mississippi while the Skunk River (Platte River tributary) flows through rural Minnesota indirectly into the Mississippi. If I had to pick one to be the primary topic it would be this one since it's longer, but neither is prominent enough to avoid ambiguity. Indeed, I just corrected links to the wrong Skunk River on the Hillman, Minnesota, Pierz, Minnesota, and Genola, Minnesota articles.- RevelationDirect (talk) 00:55, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Quédate (disambiguation) → Quédate – No clear primary topic. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 00:04, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Danna (disambiguation) → Danna – The singer still known as "Danna Paola", despite her stage name change,[41] is hardly the primary topic. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 00:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Battle of the Sacramento River → Battle of Sacramento (Mexico) – No strong evidence the battle is actually referred to as "Battle of the Sacramento River" except for a few web pages that aren't really WP:RS and may just be following enwiki's lead. Evidence instead point to "Battle of Sacramento" being the WP:COMMONNAME, and I'm not sure the current title is a sufficiently supported alternative name to justify WP:NATURAL disambiguation with Battle of Sacramento (Kentucky). Not sure if Kentucky/Mexico are the best disambiguators, open to suggestions. Perhaps years or war would be better qualifiers. Mdewman6 (talk) 23:11, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Canadian women in the World Wars → Canadian women in the world wars – In the recent RM discussion recorded at Talk:Canada in the world wars and interwar period, it was agreed that "world wars" is not consistently capitalized in reliable sources and therefore should be in lowercase. There are two articles that I am not yet including in this list until further discussion is held at Talk:List of films made in Poland in the Interwar Period about whether it is better to say "interwar period" or "between the world wars". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 22:42, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Hawk Tuah → Hawk tuah – Unnecessary capitalization. Article is no longer about the "Hawk Tuah Girl" (where title case would be necessary). The RM above was closed without really addressing the captalization. C F A 💬 21:49, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Piccolino no Bōken → Pinocchio (1976 TV series) – Official English name, per Studio 100 International's site. VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 20:30, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Expectation → Expectation (disambiguation) – According to Cambridge Dictionary, the primary meaning of "expectation" refers to the psychological concept of anticipating something to happen. The other entries listed on the disambiguation page have a more specific names like expectation–maximization algorithm. Therefore, it seems logical to move the psychological concept to the more concise title, which would also resolve another issue: the parenthetical addition. Typically, we use a noun as a disambiguator (e.g., anticipation (genetics), stress (mechanics)) rather than adjectives. Additionally, it’s challenging to attribute this concept to a single scientific field—whether psychology, philosophy, or epistemology—so how should we specify it? For all other meanings, we can simply just add a disambiguation hatnote to the lead of the current expectation (epistemic) page. –Tobias (talk) 20:19, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Expectation (epistemic) → Expectation

(Discuss) – Motocross des Nations → Motocross of Nations – Seems to be the most used name for the event (WP:COMMONNAME), including FIM, the governing body. Also WP:ENGLISHTITLE. Pelmeen10 (talk) 19:45, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Kentarō Itō → Kentarō Itō (voice actor) – There needs to be some disambiguation as the article Kentaro Ito (actor) exists, which is for another actor with he same romanized name. lullabying (talk) 18:44, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Spīn Ghar → Safed Koh – Restore the article to its previously discussed name. The article was moved to a local name [42], but per the discussion on the talk page, it was restored[43] to its original stable WP:COMMONNAME. Ainty Painty (talk) 04:40, 18 September 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 07:51, 21 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 15:00, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – European Canadians → White Canadians – Nowhere does Statistics Canada conflate the racial term "white" with the geographic origin term "European". Source 1 - Source 2 -Source 3 - Source 4Moxy🍁 14:08, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – 2024 Haret Hreik airstrike → July 2024 Haret Hreik attack – This needs to be disambiguated from the September 20 attack also in Haret Hreik[44]. The consensus at that article's talk page seems to be forming around September 2024 Haret Hreik attack, so the proposed title format would be WP:CONSISTENT. The term "attack" in both titles would be consistent with Majdal Shams attack, Nabatieh attack etc. VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 05:14, 21 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 06:19, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Gheorghe Popescu (footballer, born 1967) → Gheorghe Popescu – Gheorghe Popescu is the name of two footballers. This one is the clear primary topic, being one of Romania's most important players ever. The pagemove to "footballer, born 1967" is only a year old and happened without discussion, and as you can infer I believe it was a good-faith action but ultimately misguided. Geschichte (talk) 05:46, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Gheorghe Popescu → Gheorghe Popescu (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

(Discuss) – App Store (Apple) → App Store – WP:DIFFCAPS and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The generic concept is called an app store, not an App Store. There is only one notable app store called the "App Store"; the other major app stores are called Google Play, Amazon Appstore, Microsoft Store, and Galaxy Store. (Amazon Appstore is a partial title match.) Note that there is a separate article for the Mac App Store, which is a subtopic of this article and not a contender for the primary topic. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:40, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Ryan Whitney → Ryan Whitney (ice hockey) – Firstly, there is no clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC between Ryan Whitney and Ryan Whitney (actress) (see similar page view numbers, suggesting equal readership). Ryan Whitney used to be called Ryan Newman, which is where all the problems start. However, after three years, two failed RMs, and a unilateral move by a user, we're passed the WP:TOOSOON stage. Let's say Ryan Whitney (actress)'s WP:COMMONNAME is actually Ryan Whitney (more on that later), and we manage to agree that there is no PRIMARYTOPIC, then, we need to move the pages accordingly and create a proper disambiguation page, instead of what is now at Ryan Whitney (disambiguation).
Next, for the case of Ryan Newman (racing driver), the page needs to be moved to Ryan Newman, since he would be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the name "Ryan Newman". We could leave a hatnote at the top so that readers looking for the former Ryan Newman, now Ryan Whitney, could find her. I don't think a Ryan Newman (disambiguation) page is necessary, but let me know. Ryan Dean Newman can stay as is, and we can leave a hatnote if need be.
Alternate proposal: if you disagree with Ryan Whitney's WP:COMMONNAME being Ryan Whitney, I suggest moving Ryan Whitney (actress) to Ryan Whitney Newman, which is used in a fair chunk of sources and on places like her Instagram page. Ryan Newman (racing driver) is still moved to Ryan Newman, hatnotes are still left at the top, but that way we can leave Ryan Whitney (the ice hockey player) where he is, and just leave a hatnote at the top. Ryan Whitney (disambiguation) can be outright deleted. Ryan Dean Newman, no change but hatnotes where needed. Paul Vaurie (talk) 13:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 06:15, 7 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Sennecaster (Chat) 01:25, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Ryan Newman (racing driver) → Ryan Newman
- Ryan Newman → Ryan Newman (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- Ryan Whitney (disambiguation) → Ryan Whitney

(Discuss) – Gender self-identification → Gender self-determination – This page is about the legal human right to determine one's gender in documents. Gender self-identification refers to the act of self-identifying or self-conceptualizing one's own gender identity. Self-determination includes not only the freedom to self-identify, but also the freedom to disidentification (not identifying as something doesn't automatically mean self-identifying as another thing). And thus gender self-determination is more precise and concise. --MikutoH ^talk! 23:52, 20 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 ^{[𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]} 01:16, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Serviceton railway line → Ararat railway line – Edited article a while ago to reflect that the Serviceton line hasn't existed since 1995, when it was truncated to Ararat; the section past Ararat through to Serviceton was converted to standard gauge in 1995 and connected to other lines to form today's Western standard gauge railway line. Current Ararat railway line page is a redirect to Ballarat V/Line rail service (which covers the Ballarat and Ararat passenger services running on the line). I requested a move back when I first edited the article, however the request was removed as it was never completed. Граймс (talk) 08:51, 17 September 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 2pou (talk) 17:46, 20 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 ^{[𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]} 01:14, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Extremely online → Chronically online – Chronically online is the common name. I looked up "chronically online", "terminally online", and "extremely online" with quotation marks on Google, and 933,000, 240,000, 153,000 search results were returned respectively (the numbers may vary, but not the order). Chronically online is also the descriptive name, as chronically and acutely are two different things, with terminally and extremely possibly referring to acutely, which would be an inaccurate characterization. Anecdotally, I hear chronically online slightly more commonly than terminally online while almost never hearing extremely online, which has been backed by the search results. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 16:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 ^{[𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]} 01:12, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Distributed social network → Federated social network – Most people and articles today refer to distributed social networks such as ActivityPub or AT Protocol as a federated social network, not a distributed social network. Renaming the article to "Federated social network" would help the article to gain more visibility and attention, especially considering the outdated state of the article. LemurianPatriot (talk) 13:13, 13 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading of Beans 14:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 ^{[𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]} 01:10, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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(Discuss) – 2024 Hezbollah headquarters strike → 27 September 2024 Beirut attacks – While Israel states it only targeted the Hezbollah headquarters, several RS say the attack lay waste to "Several apartment blocks"[45] or "multiple high-rise apartment buildings"[46]. Given such an immense destruction of civilian infrastructure, we should not put Israeli claims that this was a "precise strike" on just the Hezbollah HQ in wikivoice (violation of WP:POVTITLE]), and instead pick the most neutral title. VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 21:40, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Cusk (fish) → Brosme – "Cusk" is a common name of another fish, the burbot (source). I think it's better to use the unambiguous scientific name than to further disambiguate this common name. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:44, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Dahiya doctrine → Dahieh doctrine – Very few sources refer to "Dahieh" area as "Dahiya." I think the main article should be "Dahieh doctrine" with alternative spellings being mentioned in the first sentence of the article. https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Dahiya%22 only returns results as it relates to this military doctrine NOT the area it is supposedly named after. RisingTzar (talk) 19:12, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – North American Soccer League (1968–1984) → North American Soccer League – As the primary topic in both common use and long-term significance, I believe the original NASL should not need to be disambiguated while its short-lived reincarnation should remain disambiguated. The second league has been defunct for several years and most coverage in secondary sources in the past few years has been focused on the original NASL. Sounder Bruce 22:22, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- North American Soccer League → North American Soccer League (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

(Discuss) – Murder of Felicia Gayle → Murder of Felicia Gayle and execution of Marcellus Williams – This article now contains more content sbout the execution of Marcellus Williams than the murder of Felicia Gayle. There are two victims here, Gayle and Williams; one most likely murdered by persons unknown, and the other a victim of unjust judicial killing, as criminal conviction requires proof beyond reasonable doubt. However, both topics are inextricably linked, precluding a split. For that reason, it needs to be renamed to cover both topics. — The Anome (talk) 13:06, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Maratha Confederacy → Maratha Empire – It was Maratha empire until the death of Madhav Rao in 1772, only after that it was called as Maratha Confederacy. All other sources call it as Maratha Empire. The area of control at peak was from Tamil Nadu to Peshawar, so it was called as Empire. Move was requested multiple times within short period, and last move [47] was closed by a non-admin. This is just revision of history by some wikipedia editors for propaganda, so as to diminish the importance of Marathas in the eyes of readers. Crashed greek (talk) 04:09, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Portrait of a Man (Self Portrait?) → Portrait of a Man in a Red Turban – or Man in a Red Turban or Portrait of a Man in a Turban (reverting to the title before an undiscussed move in 2007 suggesting a right to naming deriving from ownership) or Man in a Turban, or at least Portrait of a Man (possible self-portrait) or Portrait of a Man (Van Eyck possible self-portrait). There are several problems in the current title. One is that the disambiguator appears to be a redundant alternative title rather than a type classification or context clarifier. Another is the question mark indicating a lack of confidence about whether the painting's title should be "Self Portrait" or not (or whether the painting fits into the self-portraiture category or not). We shouldn't be using question marks this way. The use of title case and the lack of a hyphen in "Self Portrait" also seem questionable. See also the previous discussion of the title from 2011–2017 on the article talk page. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:11, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – 2019 El Paso shooting → 2019 El Paso Walmart shooting – Per WP:UCRN. Though at the time of the shooting (around 2019) the shooting was more commonly referred to as something in the vein of "El Paso shooting" by reliable sources, in recent years reliable sources trend towards calling it something akin to "El Paso Walmart shooting". Out of 50 articles published since 2020 about the incident, 42 mention Walmart in the title while 8 do not. The 'Walmart' aspect appears to be part of a commonly recognised naming convention, which should be reflected in the page's title. Reliable sources that tended to include 'Walmart' in their titles include CNN, PBS, BBC News, ABC News, AP News, The Independent, the Washington Post, NBC News and others. Local news sources, such as the Texas Tribune and El Paso Times, tended to also refer to 'Walmart' in their titles. I recommend '2019 El Paso Walmart shooting' as it fits other naming conventions. If needed, I can provide several of the referenced articles, though they can be found by Google search. Macxcxz (talk) 11:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:47, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Eryholme–Richmond branch line → ? – Either Richmond branch or Richmond branch line – The line does not have any reliable references calling it Eryholme–Richmond branch line. Plenty of Mirrors and those who have used the name of the article in their webpages.^[1]^[2] The railway was built in 1845 when the junction with the East Coast Main Line was Dalton Junction. This was re-named in 1901 to Eryholme Junction,^[3] so by way of comparison, for the first 56 years of its existence, it would not have been called the Eryholme–Richmond branch line. There are different names, but those that state just Richmond branch with a lower case 'b' are: *^[4]^[5]^[6]^[7]^[8]^[9]^[10]^[11]^[12]^[13] The North Eastern Railway Civil Engineering Drawings List held at the National Railway Museum, has 22 references to Richmond, 17 of which state Richmond Branch (both capitalised), and others stating Richmond to Darlington, or Richmond to Eryholme.^[14] *Just Richmond Branch Railway:^[15]^[12] *Hansard refers to the the line when it was under threat of closure as the Darlington–Richmond Line.^[16]

References

^ "Eryholme–Richmond branch line". TriplyDB: The Network Effect for Your Data. Retrieved 13 September 2024.
^ "A Walk to Easby Abbey » Two Dogs and an Awning". Two Dogs and an Awning. 2 October 2015. Retrieved 13 September 2024.
^ Hoole, Kenneth (1985). Railway stations of the North East. Newton Abbot: David and Charles. p. 65. ISBN 0-7153-8527-5.
^ Body, Geoffrey (1989). Railways of the Eastern Region volume 2. Wellingborough: Patrick Stephens. p. 68. ISBN 1-85260-072-1.
^ Haigh, A. (1979). Yorkshire railways: including Cleveland and Humberside. Clapham: Dalesman Books. p. 24. ISBN 0-85206-553-1.
^ Young, Alan (2015). Lost stations of Yorkshire; the North and East Ridings. Kettering: Silver Link. p. 33. ISBN 978-1-85794-453-2.
^ Hoole, Kenneth (1985). Railway stations of the North East. Newton Abbot: David and Charles. p. 48. ISBN 0-7153-8527-5.
^ Suggitt, Gordon (2007). Lost railways of North and East Yorkshire. Newbury: Countryside Books. p. 46. ISBN 978-1-85306-918-5.
^ Burgess, Neil (2011). The Lost Railway's of Yorkshire's North Riding. Catrine: Stenlake. p. 13. ISBN 9781840335552.
^ Blakemore, Michael (2005). Railways of the Yorkshire Dales. Ilkley: Great Northern. p. 54. ISBN 1-905080-03-4.
^ "RID mileages". railwaycodes.org.uk. Retrieved 13 September 2024.
^ ^a ^b Lloyd, Chris (1 July 2017). "90 years ago three million people headed north by rail to witness one of the biggest events of the year - a total eclipse of the sun". The Northern Echo. Retrieved 13 September 2024.
^ Shannon, Paul (2023). Branch Line Britain. Barnsley: Pen & Sword. p. 127. ISBN 978-1-39908-990-6.
^ "North Eastern Railway Civil Engineering Drawings List" (PDF). railwaymuseum.org.uk. Retrieved 13 September 2024. Various pages - use the search function for Richmond
^ "List of North Yorkshire & North Riding plans of railway lines..." (PDF). archivesunlocked.northyorks.gov.uk. p. 5. Retrieved 13 September 2024.
^ "Darlington-Richmond Line (Closure) Volume 774: debated on Wednesday 4 December 1968". hansard.parliament.uk. Retrieved 13 September 2024.

Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 21:17, 13 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:03, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Bahía Limón → Limon Bay – common name — Karnataka 19:11, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – 2024 Central European floods → Storm Boris (2024) – Wrong name: Boris affected also Southern Europe (Italy and Greece).-- Carnby (talk) 10:00, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – 2024 Lebanon pager explosions → ? – Following up from last RM, the options for this RM will focus on the specific language in the title. Keep the arguments on WP:TITLE policy. We can always propose additional changes to the title in this section. Awesome Aasim 23:48, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Keshi → ? – The singer is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. In the past year, the singer has received a monthly average of 13,607 views, while the eraser has received 654 views. [48] A significant number of views for Keshi also navigate to the page for the singer.[49] मल्ल (talk) 17:58, 9 September 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 14:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Keshi (singer) → Keshi

(Discuss) – Michelle Smith → Michelle Smith (swimmer) – There are nine women and one man listed upon the Michelle Smith (disambiguation) page, with no strong indication that the Olympian from 28 years ago has retained historical renown sufficient to dwarf the combined notability of the remaining eight women. As an alternative option, I would support retaining Michelle Smith as primary among the women named "Michelle", but moving Michelle Smith (disambiguation) → Michele Smith. Among the eight women who have English Wikipedia articles, five are named "Michelle" and three are named "Michele", thus dropping the parenthetical qualifier "(disambiguation)" still appears to be relatively evenhanded and users researching the swimmer would not lose their ability to access her entry directly [the two WP:DABMENTIONS are the entry for co-author of Michelle Remembers and the redirect for male sportsman Michele Smith (cyclist)]. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 16:51, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 07:28, 1 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 16:49, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Michelle Smith (disambiguation) → Michelle Smith

(Discuss) – List of New Testament minuscules (2001–) → List of New Testament minuscules (2001–3017) – or List of New Testament minuscules (2001–2900) or List of New Testament minuscules (2101–2900), where the alternative suggested titles would imply removing some of what's currently in the list. My primary goal is to get rid of the strange combination of the dash followed immediately by a closing parenthesis, which is usually a date range but in this case is not. There are less than 30 titles like that on the English Wikipedia that I could find. Note that there's a duplication of the content of the end of this list in List of New Testament minuscules (2901–). There is also a duplicate of the content of the beginning of this list in List of New Testament minuscules (2001–2100). I don't fully understand how these lists are constructed, but I don't see big transclusions. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 03:19, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 06:35, 29 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading of Beans 06:50, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – List of national flags of sovereign states → List of national flags – 1. To be consistent with List of national anthems. 2. This is the most concise way of titling the list. (WP:CONCISE) 3. In general English usage, "national flag" refers to the flag of a country, which we consider synonymous with "sovereign state" in the article. Therefore it should be clear that flags of stateless nations are not included. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 22:22, 10 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:44, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Collingwood Blues (2020–) → Collingwood Blues – The qualifying bookend "(2020–)" is unnecessary. The article relates to an existing ice hockey team. Collingwood Blues (1988–2011) is for the defunct team with the same name. The target page is currently a redirect. Buffalkill (talk) 01:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 02:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 14:39, 10 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 21:22, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Collingwood Blues → Collingwood Blues (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary

(Discuss) – Reeves AN/MSQ-77 Bomb Directing Central → AN/MSQ-77 – It is common practice when naming articles for devices which use the American military JETDS naming convention for the article to be either AN/MSQ-77 or including the system name and type like AN/MSQ-77 Bomb Directing Central. For many examples, see Category:Military electronics of the United States. This would make the page far easier to locate since most users will search for either "AN/MSQ-77" or "AN/MSQ-77 Bomb Directing Central" (the redirect already exists for that one). It is not typical across Wikipedia to place the Manufacturer into the article name, such as Reeves AN/MSQ-77. I am not able to find any examples like that. But I am open to ideas. Please share your thoughts — TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 22:29, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 11:32, 25 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 12:03, 25 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 04:26, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Attempted assassination of Donald Trump → Attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Pennsylvania – Even if the new incident doesn't get a title move it seems clear that "in Pennsylvania" would be a better title per WP:PRECISE to sufficiently differentiate the two incidents. Esolo5002 (talk) 22:48, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Tropical Storm Conson (2021) → Tropical Storm Conson – Can this page be moved to just Tropical Storm Conson? As Daniel boxs stated above, the name was retired after the 2021 Pacific typhoon season. While there was a more notable iteration of Conson last 2010, it was a typhoon. This is the only page that is named "Tropical Storm Conson"— the 2004 and 2010 iterations were typhoons, and the 2016 iteration redirects you to the 2016 typhoon page, so it's a little distinctive compared to the previous Conson iterations. Bugnawfang (talk) 08:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC) Bugnawfang (talk) 08:32, 8 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn (talk) 12:27, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Cunning folk traditions and the Latter Day Saint movement → Folk magic and early Mormonism – Mainstream non-apologetic scholarship (Quinn, Vogel) uses term 'folk magic', not the euphemistic 'Cunning folk traditions'. Feoffer (talk) 09:27, 6 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 10:29, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Muslim grooming gangs in the United Kingdom → Grooming Gang Moral Panic in UK – Last RM was a mess, had only three folks discussing a POV mess of an article. Now that we reverted back before all these POV edits, and more folks have their eyes on this, we should consider appropriate, less inflammatory, names Bluethricecreamman (talk) 16:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 16:28, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Moggy → Domestic cat (landrace) – Wikipedia is a worldwide resource. Cats are found worldwide. There is no place for a localized colloquialism to be a MAIN page reference on Wikipedia. I am located in the United States and never once have I ever heard the term “moggy” used to refer to a cat. The merging of Domestic short-haired cat and Domestic long-haired cat was an appropriate move as the only difference is the gene for hair growth. However, I don’t understand why a slang term page was revived from like, 2007 to merge the two pages together. Wikipedia Manual of Style in the Opportunities for Commonality section states that as an international English-speaking Wikipedia, using universally accepted terms is much more appropriate. For example, “to mog” or “mogging” in Gen Alpha terms - see mog. Nobody outside of Britian or Australia even knows what a moggy is. To make things messier, there were previous merges and fights about “moggy” vs. “moggie.” Y’all do not need a page for your local colloquialism. Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Opportunities for commonality bullet points 1-4. My new write-up for the beginning of the new article also explains this landrace breed, using hyphenation glossing as is suggested by the Manual of Style: A Domestic shorthair or Domestic longhair cat, sometimes regionally referred to as a moggy, is a landrace breed of cat reproducing without human intervention for type. The vast majority of cats worldwide lack any pedigree ancestry. The landrace can include cats living with humans or in feral colonies. Gene flow moves between the two populations as feral cats are tamed, housecats are released, and free-roaming unneutered cats breed freely. Simmy27star (talk) 11:37, 4 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 16:03, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Iranian Revolution → Iranian revolution – Change to sentence case (WP:AT). Not consistently capped in sources - per WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS. See here. Cinderella157 (talk) 09:37, 11 September 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Cinderella157 (talk) 03:18, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Qi (Henan) → Qǐ (state) – Currently this is the only article in Category:Ancient Chinese states that isn't disambiguated by the word "state". Several other reasons for the move request: Qi County, Hebi and Qi County, Kaifeng are both in Henan; the 12th-century puppet state Qi was also based in Henan; and several other polities named Qi also covered parts or the whole of Henan (including the Shandong-based Qi (state)). Not saying that the word "state" is in any way precise (it's obviously not), but it's good to be consistent with other articles in the same category. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 19:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:28, 21 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Fathoms Below (talk) 19:43, 29 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 04:34, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Stanisław Potocki (1659-1683) → Stanisław Potocki (Polish noble, died 1683) – For alignment with WP:NCPDAB, especially to remove the lifespan ranges (especially the one using a hyphen). These people have more specific titles (szlachcic, voivode, etc.), but I think they are not used in English, so I am just suggesting "Polish noble" for all of them. For one of these, we have the birth year, but for the others we do not, so it may be best to consistently use the death year for all of them. Note that Stanisław Potocki (1734–1802) redirects to Józef Potocki (1734/35–1802). This seems to be an artefact of a previous error; see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 13#Stanisław Potocki (1734–1802). Note that there is also a non-disambiguated Józef Potocki. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 15:02, 30 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:29, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Israel–Hamas war → Israel–Gaza war – Despite the move request to Israel-Gaza war being closed as no consensus in February 2024, a lot has changed since then and RS have converged to use this name. This move is long overdue and aligns with the relevant Wikipedia guidelines of WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NAMECHANGE. RS per WP that uses the Israel-Gaza war name as the title of their coverage category: * The Guardian: Israel-Gaza war * The Washington Post: Israel-Gaza war * BBC: Israel-Gaza war * NPR: Israel-Gaza war * The Conservation: Israel-Gaza war * Al Jazeera: Israel's war on Gaza Other RS that uses the Israel-Gaza war name as the title of their coverage category: * Doctors Without Borders: Israel-Gaza war * Committee to Protect Journalists: Israel-Gaza conflict * The National: Israel-Gaza war * Middle East Eye: Israel's war on Gaza RS per WP that uses the Israel-Gaza war in their coverage: * Reuters: [50], [51], [52]: Israel-Gaza war * CBS news: [53] Israel-Gaza war * Vox: [54], [55]: Israel's war in Gaza This name change would also align with a third Wikipedia guideline, all five of the WP:CRITERIA one, namely #5 on Consistency, as this would align with Gaza War (2008–2009) and 2014 Gaza war. Makeandtoss (talk) 10:05, 13 August 2024 (UTC) :Update to add other RS mentioning Gaza instead of Hamas in one way or another in at least one instance: * Save the Children: [56]: War in Gaza as coverage category title * Haaretz Israeli newspaper: [57]: Gaza war as coverage category title (RS per WP) * Relief Web: Relief Web: Gaza war * Crisis Group: [58]: Gaza war * Norwegian Refugee Council: [59]: Gaza conflict Makeandtoss (talk) 11:38, 16 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 15:12, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel – I believe that enough time has passed since the last RM (which proposed the simpler "7 October attacks" name and closed with consensus to retain the current title) to re-propose a title change for this article. I believe that "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel" is the WP:COMMONNAME for this event, as seen in sources such as: * Al Jazeera: "... counter the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which saw ..." * Bloomberg: "... trapped in Gaza since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which prompted ..." * CBC: "... around the world since the Hamas-led attacks on Israel of Oct. 7 but are now ..." * CNN: "... from the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel being held ..." * Euracitiv: "... triggered by the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel in which ..." * France24: "Before the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that triggered ..." * ISW: "... spokesperson claimed that the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel was retaliation ..." * Middle East Eye: "Following the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel and subsequent ..." * NPR: "... Palestinian armed groups since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that set off the war ..." * NYTimes: "... including some who participated in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, and that ..." * Reuters: "... were involved in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that precipitated ..." * Times of Israel: "... during and after the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel." * The Conversation: "... participated in the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which resulted ... " * WaPo: "Since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, restrictions have ..." Many sources simply say "7 October" or "October 7 attacks" instead of spelling out the full name, but I believe that while "7 October attacks" could be a more COMMON name, I think that it fails WP:AT#Precision in favor of "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel." DecafPotato (talk) 00:43, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 14:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 07:27, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Discuss) – Dodola and Perperuna → Rainmaking (Southeast Europe) – see the discussion above. We also have the generic Rainmaking (ritual) page (techical nomination; no vote) --Altenmann >talk 20:15, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 21:16, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Malformed requests

Talk:September 2024 Lebanon strikes – Pagename to be moved listed below template does not match name in template: September 2024 Lebanon strikes.

Possibly incomplete requests

Talk:Decapod – Decapod is requested for move to Decapod (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?

Talk:2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon – 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon is requested for move to Third Lebanon War, which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move

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+* ''([[Talk:Neopanax colensoi#Requested move 6 October 2024|Discuss]])'' – '''[[Neopanax colensoi]] → {{no redirect|Pseudopanax colensoi}}''' – [[WP:COMMONNAME]] and [[WP:FLORA]] - overwhelming usage within recent scientific papers, despite mixed use in taxonomic databases. Without a clear scientific basis for a preference of one name over the other, [[MOS:ENGVAR]]/[[MOS:TIES]]: that there is a clear consensus among New Zealand scientific sources for a clade of plants endemic to New Zealand.  *''Neopanax'' and ''Pseudopanax'' together form a clade. Currently there are three morphological forms of the species within this clade - two are always described as ''Pseudopanax'', while one (the more basal form) is sometimes described as ''Neopanax'' and sometimes ''Pseudopanax''. [https://researchspace.auckland.ac.nz/handle/2292/66994 page 52 of this thesis] has a useful graph showing phylogenetic relationships within the group. ''Neopanax'' was synonymised with ''Pseudopanax'' in the 20th century, re-established as a genus in [https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00606-003-0101-3 2004], but the justification of this was disputed [https://doi.org/10.1016%2FJ.YMPEV.2009.05.030 in 2009]. The distinction appears to be one based on conventions rather than a clear scientific justification (i.e. less based on whether or not ''Neopanax'' is a distinct clade within ''Pseudopanax'', and more based on whether it's justified to use a different name for this clade, or to continue to use the pre-2004 convention). This issue was [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Plants/Archive77#Neopanax_colensoi_and_Draft:Pseudopanax_colensoi|previously discussed at WikiProject Plants]].  *Different taxonomical databases use different preferred names. ''Pseudopanax'' is overwhelmingly used by New Zealand databases.  **''Pseudopanax'' preferred: [https://biotanz.landcareresearch.co.nz/scientific-names/c288105b-bdc5-414a-afdb-fd8c1177a4b6 Biota of New Zealand], [https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/135793264/135793266 IUCN], [https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/126181-Pseudopanax-arboreus iNaturalist], [https://www.nzor.org.nz/names/c741eaa6-6482-4c9e-b880-097e6e5d8fac NZOR] and [https://nztcs.org.nz/nztcs-species/3930 NZTCS]  **''Neopanax'' preferred: [https://www.catalogueoflife.org/data/taxon/46P5M CoL], [https://eol.org/pages/1153973 EoL], [https://www.gbif.org/species/3036510 GBIF], [https://www.irmng.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=11408956 IRMNG], [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Taxonomy/Browser/wwwtax.cgi?mode=Info&id=46409 NCBI], [https://tree.opentreeoflife.org/taxonomy/browse?name=Pseudopanax+arboreus OTOL], [https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:91846-1 POWO]  *Recent scientific sources outside of taxonomic databases overwhelmingly prefer ''Pseudopanax''. Looking at Post-2020 Google Scholar results for species within the ''Neopanax'' clade:  {{col-begin}}  {{col-break}}  *''Neopanax arboreus'' 6  *''Neopanax colensoi'' 3  *''Neopanax kermadecensis'' 0  *''Neopanax laetus'' 0  *''Neopanax macintyrei'' 1  {{col-break}}  *''Pseudopanax arboreus'' 150  *''Pseudopanax colensoi'' 29  *''Pseudopanax kermadecensis'' 3  *''Pseudopanax laetus'' 4  *''Pseudopanax macintyrei'' 2  {{col-end}} [[User:Prosperosity|Prosperosity]] ([[User talk:Prosperosity|talk]]) 00:57, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
+** [[Neopanax laetus]]  → {{no redirect|Pseudopanax laetus}}
 * ''([[Talk:DC Studios#Requested move 6 October 2024|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:DC Studios]] → {{no redirect|DC Films}}''' – We should revert this page back to DC Films.     The three 2024 projects, such as ''Super/Man'', ''The Penguin'', and ''Creature Commandos'' (along with any 2025 projects movie forwards), will leave this article. As confirmed by CEO James Gunn, [https://www.threads.net/@jamesgunn/post/DAvsCGcvQyO?xmt=AQGzBr4hgnth7RIueRN9ytQ0xJzrigUb3EF0VmYP3MePTg in this post on Threads], DC Studios is its OWN entity separate from DC Films. The ''Super/Man'' documentary was the first movie to be released by the studio, and ''The Penguin'' was the first show released by the studio. As he confirmed [https://www.threads.net/@jamesgunn/post/DAvsRt7PITb?xmt=AQGzBr4hgnth7RIueRN9ytQ0xJzrigUb3EF0VmYP3MePTg on this post here], the ''Joker'' sequel is NOT a DC Studios film, though some of 2024 projects mentioned earlier are are, [https://www.threads.net/@jamesgunn/post/DAvtcCpPIDv?xmt=AQGzVuL0txOimUyXF9Rb-4CWxT9QTrRW4V-Uff_QbWDxzw as he explained in this post.]    Given this information, directly from the source, I think this move is in the best interest to make things clear. [[User:ScottSullivan01|ScottSullivan01]] ([[User talk:ScottSullivan01|talk]]) 00:08, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
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-* ''([[Talk:Skunk River#Requested move 29 September 2024|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Skunk River]] → [[Skunk River (Iowa)]]''' – Per [[WP:PRECISE]], [[WP:PLACEDAB]] and [[WP:NCRIVER]].   This river flows through rural Iowa directly into the Mississippi while the [[Skunk River (Platte River tributary)]] flows through rural Minnesota indirectly into the Mississippi. If I had to pick one to be the primary topic it would be this one since it's longer, but neither is prominent enough to avoid ambiguity. Indeed, I just corrected links to the wrong Skunk River on the [[Hillman, Minnesota]], [[Pierz, Minnesota]], and [[Genola, Minnesota]] articles.- [[User:RevelationDirect|RevelationDirect]] ([[User talk:RevelationDirect|talk]]) 00:55, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
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+* ''([[Talk:Skunk River#Requested move 29 September 2024|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Skunk River]] → [[Skunk River (Iowa)]]''' – Per [[WP:PRECISE]], [[WP:PLACEDAB]] and [[WP:NCRIVER]].   This river flows through rural Iowa directly into the Mississippi while the [[Skunk River (Platte River tributary)]] flows through rural Minnesota indirectly into the Mississippi. If I had to pick one to be the primary topic it would be this one since it's longer, but neither is prominent enough to avoid ambiguity. Indeed, I just corrected links to the wrong Skunk River on the [[Hillman, Minnesota]], [[Pierz, Minnesota]], and [[Genola, Minnesota]] articles.- [[User:RevelationDirect|RevelationDirect]] ([[User talk:RevelationDirect|talk]]) 00:55, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
 * ''([[Talk:Quédate (disambiguation)#Requested move 29 September 2024|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Quédate (disambiguation)]] → {{no redirect|Quédate}}''' – No clear primary topic. [[WP:CC-BY-SA|(CC)]]&nbsp;[[User:Tbhotch|<span style="color:#4B0082;">Tb</span><span style="color:#6082B6;">hotch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tbhotch|<span style="color:#555555;">™</span>]]</sup> 00:04, 29 September 2024 (UTC)