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August 23

Portal:Current events/2024 August 23

August 23, 2024 (2024-08-23) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukraine War The United States announces a new military aid package to Ukraine, including air defense missiles, munitions for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), an array of anti-armor missiles, vehicles, and other equipment. (AP) Israel–Hezbollah conflict Hezbollah launches over 100 rocket strikes on Israel Defense Forces targets in Mount Meron and Al-Malkiyya that were intercepted by Iron Dome and caused wildfires. (Times of Israel) Seven Hezbollah militants are killed in Israeli airstrikes and shelling on Tayr Harfa and Shebaa in southern Lebanon. (Times of Israel) Kurdistan Workers' Party insurgency, Turkish war crimes Three people, including two journalists, are killed and another journalist is injured in a Turkish drone strike on a vehicle in Sulaymaniyah in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq. (Al Jazeera) (Committee to Protect Journalists) Surovikino penal colony hostage crisis Four inmates linked to the Islamic State seize control of a prison in Surovikino, Volgograd Oblast, Russia, and take hostages, killing four prison staff members and injuring three others. The attackers are shot dead by responding security forces. (Azerbaijani Press Agency) (The Guardian) Syrian civil war Abu Abdul Rahman Makki, a senior leader of the al-Qaeda-linked Hurras al-Din, is killed by an airstrike in Jabal Zawiya, Idlib Governorate, Syria. (AP) Business and economy Unemployment in the United States United States Chair of the Federal Reserve Jerome Powell states that increased unemployment rates and labor market cooling has made it necessary for the Federal Reserve to markedly reduce interest rates in the near future. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2024 India–Bangladesh floods At least 23 people are killed and more than 4.5 million people are affected by floods caused by heavy rains in eastern Bangladesh. (Al Jazeera) Twenty-seven people are killed and 16 more injured when a bus carrying Indian pilgrims on the Prithvi Highway in Nepal crashes. (AP) Ten people are killed by landslides and flooding in Phuket, Thailand. (Bangkok Post) A tourist from India falls eight-meters deep into a sinkhole after a section of a sidewalk along Jalan Masjid India in Kuala Lumpur caved in, prompting search and rescue operations. (The Star) (The Straits Times) Health and environment 2023–2024 mpox epidemic Gabon reports its first case of mpox in a man who traveled to Uganda. (Le Monde) International relations International sanctions during the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Russia–United States relations, China–United States relations The United States Treasury Department imposes sanctions on more than 400 individuals and entities, including Chinese firms that are allegedly aiding Russia in order to avoid western sanctions. (Reuters) (CNN) Peace negotiations in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, India–Ukraine relations During a meeting in Kyiv, Ukraine, Prime Minister of India Narendra Modi urges Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to end the Russo-Ukrainian War, and volunteers to act as a mediator in talks between Zelenskyy and Russia. In a later national address, Zelenskyy thanked Modi but stated that it is necessary for India to respect international law as well as Ukraine's territorial integrity and sovereignty. (Reuters) Poland–South Africa relations South Africa blocks the transfer of 50,000 purchased artillery shells to Poland out of fear that they would be sent to Ukraine for use in the Russo-Ukrainian War. (Kyiv Independent) Law and crime 2023 antisemitic riots in the North Caucasus A court in Krasnodar, Russia, sentences five men to more than six years in prison for participating in anti-Israel riots at Uytash Airport in Makhachkala, Dagestan, in October 2023. (Reuters) 2024 Solingen stabbing Three people are killed and eight others are wounded in a mass stabbing at a public festival Solingen, NRW, Germany, during celebrations for the 650th anniversary of the city. A manhunt for the suspect and a citywide shelter-in-place emergency for residents are ongoing. (AP) 2024 United Kingdom riots The United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination recommends that the United Kingdom implement bans and auditing of hate speech, xenophobia, and far-right rhetoric by politicians, in addition to prohibiting the strip-searching of children and addressing the over-policing of schools, following widespread destructive anti-immigration protests exacerbated by remarks made by public figures and politicians. (Reuters) (The Guardian) The Hellenic Coast Guard open fire against a motorboat carrying 14 migrants near the island of Symi, Greece, killing one of the passengers. (AP) Politics and elections 2024 United States presidential election Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 2024 presidential campaign Robert F. Kennedy Jr. announces that he is ending his presidential campaign and endorses Donald Trump's campaign. However, Kennedy will remain on the ballot in some states as he has already registered his campaign there. (The Hill) (USA Today)

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(Posted) Solingen stabbing

Article: 2024 Solingen stabbing (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A mass stabbing linked to Islamic terrorism at a festival in Solingen, Germany leaves at least three people dead and multiple people with severe injuries. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Germany, three people are killed in a mass stabbing claimed by Islamic State at a festival in Solingen.
News source(s): Reuters, WP
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Thriley (talk) 00:41, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Wait good faith nom but leaning oppose. Let's see if this is bigger than it appears at the moment. Absent more than what we know at the moment, I'd probably oppose. Worse crimes occur on a near daily basis. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:55, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

  Bondi got posted, why shouldn’t this? 27.96.223.192 (talk) 07:35, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Wait Similar to the Bondi stabbing so we will most likely post in due time when more info comes out 27.96.223.192 (talk) 01:06, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Wait per above. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 04:38, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Wait for more information as per above. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:18, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Support Mass casualty event that is being covered significantly across global media outlets. Article appears to meet the criteria for ITN and will only continue to develop. Kcmastrpc (talk) 15:57, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose. There's no wait, something needs to demonstrate notability before anything else. There's been no wide societal effect (like there was with the recent Southport stabbing), and none of the people involved are notable. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 00:35, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

They have not ruled out being a terrorist attack and are investigating as if it was one. I agree if this turns out to be a simple domestic matter that it doesn't make sense to post, but if this was terrorism, that's a different matter. — Masem (t) 00:44, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Same thing with Bondi, we posted that didn’t we? 27.96.223.192 (talk) 04:26, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

It's notable due to how rare deadly knife attacks are in Germany. Furthermore it seems to be an Islamist attack claimed by IS which has had notable political ramifications. IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 13:23, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support The fact that ISIS have now claimed responsibility makes this somewhat more significant. Flyingfishee (talk) 03:42, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  ISIS is not a reliable source for the time of day, or anything else absent independent confirmation. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:50, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  I don't recall ISIS having a history of making false claims. Is there a good example of that previously? (though this isn't particularly striking me as an overly significant story - it's not getting massive coverage compared to several other news stories running right now). Nfitz (talk) 06:57, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  The 2017 Las Vegas shooting is an obvious example. Celjski Grad (talk) 09:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  Has that explicitly been disproven? This article discusses the Las Vegas claim:

  https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/10/isis-amaq-las-vegas/541746/ IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 12:22, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  Nothing in our articles disproves the ISIS claim - and no motive has yet been determined. One of our supporting references notes that ISIS making false claims would be unusual. Though I was thinking in a European context. Nfitz (talk) 01:06, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support for the following reasons: three people killed in a country where such killings are not notable, you have a notable Islamist group claiming responsibility, and involves an issue that is highly political in numerous nations and is also connected to a wider geopolitical controversy. It's currently on the frontpage of BBC, ABC News Australia, Bloomberg, HuffPost, NBC News, CNN, CBC News, AlJazeera, and WION.

IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 12:17, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

"where such killings are not notable" should be "where such killings are not common". IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 12:18, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

you can update your original post, and delete the follow up (and you have my permission to delete this message if you wish). Kcmastrpc (talk) 13:38, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Yep, I agree. It would be a different story if for example a shooting killed a few people in America we wouldn’t post but the same happening in Iceland for example would get posted. It’s about notability not death count. 27.96.223.192 (talk) 12:32, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Why don't you declare your support then? IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 13:08, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Support No reason this shouldn’t be on ITN, significant attack. Sadsolarpanel (talk) 13:52, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Mass stabbing incidents are not actually incredibly rare in Germany, with three major ones happening just this year. If it turns out that this was terrorism, then I would reconsider. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:44, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  German police to suspect terrorism: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/08/24/german-police-hunt-for-suspect-who-killed-three-in-festival/

  But it's also wrong to say that these attacks aren't rare. There are three major ones but that's trend of political violence and Islamist attacks that are notable in itself, and three is also not common as you put it. IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 15:03, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

(1) Suspecting that this was terrorism is very different from confirming that this was terrorism.

(2) I am not saying that these types of attacks are common, but at least three in one year certainly does not seem rare to me. Gödel2200 (talk) 15:13, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

1) It won't be confirmed that it was terrorism until the investigation is completed which will take days if not weeks, and it may even be non-confirmed if the police go down a politically-neutral route like mental heath (as they do in the UK). The likelihood that it was terrorism is high nevertheless.

2) It does not need to be rare, just uncommon enough that it can go on ITN. IsTheLightThatBright (talk) 15:21, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Update blurb to include ISIS claiming responsibility Scu ba (talk) 23:07, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Done Authorities have announced the suspect is linked to IS. Kcmastrpc (talk) 00:46, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

  Support alt now that blurb looks good. Scu ba (talk) 17:14, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support if there was any doubt as to notability, that has been evaporated by ISIS claiming responsibility. Flip^andFlopped ツ 05:15, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

How many attacks with more casualties does daesh claim responsibility for in syria or iraq? knife attacks in eurpe are like shooting inthe usa now.Sportsnut24 (talk) 20:47, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Picture is clearer now. Time to post.CoatCheck (talk) 14:27, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

How is that? It is a not even claimed by anything of import. a lone wolf "muslim" doesnt make it "islamic".Sportsnut24 (talk) 20:42, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

oppose as usual as shootings in the usa now. don't post those for 3 deaths.Sportsnut24 (talk) 20:40, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

•  Administrator note I can see this going either way. @PrinceofPunjab and MtPenguinMonster: After saying "wait" early on without subsequent comments, any additional thoughts now, particulary on ALT blurb? Thanks. @PrinceofPunjab and MtPenguinMonster: Re-ping, since I didn't sign before.—Bagumba (talk) 04:36, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

  Changing my vote to Support now. The claim by ISIS made this event notable. I think the alt blurb is the right one and it has been more than a week since the last entering was posted on the ITN section thus making the whole section stale. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 10:23, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment This is continuing to receive major coverage. The German government is planning to restrict irregular migration as a result of the attack: [1] Thriley (talk) 08:01, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted There's a consensus to post (although somewhat weak), but the Deutsche Welle article posted by Thriley shows that it's quite consequential for German politics, with law or policy changes looming based on an ad hoc grand coalition as opposed to the government coalition that is in place. Schwede66 01:15, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
• Post-posting Oppose per above. Not that significant in the grand scheme of things even if it is linked to terrorism. Didn't think this would be posted.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:52, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
• Post-posting Support, notable event that is bringing up conversations about asylum seekers and migrants in Germany. Still being reported on by major news corporations to this day. Alexysun (talk) 18:11, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Russell Malone

Article: Russell Malone (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

• Nominated by Flibirigit (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Robby.is.on (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Noted jazz guitarist. Needs more citations to be ready. Flibirigit (talk) 00:00, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• I doubt that I will have time to make improvements before this goes stale. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 14:47, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose unsourced discography and couple of cn tags. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 04:39, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Discography is still unsourced. At least two footnote-free paragraphs in main prose. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 23:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Peter Lundgren

Article: Peter Lundgren (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tennis World USA, ATP Tour
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:6C5A:3B46:FCA7:E9D5 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Swedish tennis player and coach of Roger Federer. His death was announced on this day. 240F:7A:6253:1:6C5A:3B46:FCA7:E9D5 (talk) 17:58, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Some more background information on Lundgren himself in the prose would be nice, his upbringing and a mention of his death is all that is really needed. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 18:50, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Support The article looks good and the person is definitely notable enough to post. 27.96.223.192 (talk) 22:22, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Support article meets the bare minimum requirement. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 04:40, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: Multiple unsourced statements. Spencer^T•C 18:52, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Summer Koshien

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Article: Summer Koshien (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Kyoto International wins the 106th Summer Koshien. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Kyoto International wins the 106th Summer Koshien for the first time ever.
News source(s): NHK Kyodo KBS World AP-Yonhap
Credits:

• Nominated by Meganinja202 (talk · give credit)

i am not used to it so i accept suggestions for the blurb, The number is used beacuse is mostly commonly used instead of the year, akin to Olympics or Super Bowl. Meganinja202 (talk) 06:48, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Sensationalism isn’t allowed for ITN. Pretty sure we don’t post school tournaments here either. 27.96.223.192 (talk) 10:05, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

  If March Madness is allowed, i see no reason for it not be, specially when its a notable event that has various articles about it, even Major League Baseball has wrote a article about the tournament and its relevancy. Meganinja202 (talk) 12:21, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose We really should not be posting any amateur level sports in the first place, but keep in mind that for March Madness, the huge number of people that watch that across the globe has an impact of why we post it. However, that definitely cannot be said for a high school-level tournament that has little global coverage. --Masem (t) 12:44, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

  how about highly cultural events principle? Summer Koshien is a very important tournament culturallly in Japan and its known around the world in part by various productions made about the tournament (check In popular culture) Meganinja202 (talk) 16:24, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose good faith nom, but not known or covered globally as a sporting event. Natg 19 (talk) 15:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

  had you guys checked the The popular culture tab ??? it is litteraly known by many forms not just by the direct broadcast of the tournament itself, I am sure lot of people know about the tournament thanks to ace of diamond or major Meganinja202 (talk) 16:19, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

  As I mention below, these 2 mangas/animes are still Japanese coverage, which does not demonstrate worldwide or global significance. Natg 19 (talk) 17:14, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Not important enough for ITN. Tradedia^talk 16:04, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose nowhere near meeting ITN significence criteria, not least because there isn't even a separate article for the event (the linked article is to the general event Japanese High School Baseball Championship which barely mentions it. This feels like a WP:SNOW close. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:25, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

  Theres a group of users (including myself) that updates stuffs about the tournament annually, but is not dedicated enough to make annual articles about the tournament, i dont know if counts but the ja and the zh|the zh language wikis has separated article every year , i plan to translate them in a future when i have more of a free time Meganinja202 (talk) 16:37, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

  There is no need for you to reply to every other oppose !vote. Please stop. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 16:50, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

  I am replying beacuse it seems clearly some editors dont know about the cultural impact of the tournament, litteraly a person made its judgement saying that he feels "there has not much enough articles" about the tournament, i feel that without a counterpoint, it may be a unfair vote...
  I heared that the ITN people were too demanding, but i feel that is TOO MUCH demanding and request shoud be put more thought into it, sprecialy due its cultural impact Meganinja202 (talk) 17:03, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

  There is a cultural aspect, but it is still within Japan, and covered in Japanese media or Japanese entertainment. ITN tries to highlight events that have a worldwide/international impact or approach, and unfortunately Summer Koshien does not meet the bar. There are few news articles outside of Japan covering the results of this tournament. Natg 19 (talk) 17:12, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose The nomination has multiple issue. First of all, the topic is quite niche and appears to have no international coverage. Second, there is no independent article on the just finished season. Third, the nominated article is in a poor shape as the majority of the content in the article is unsourced. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:28, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

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August 22

Portal:Current events/2024 August 22

August 22, 2024 (2024-08-22) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israeli incursions in Tulkarm An Israeli drone strike kills three Palestinians in Tulkarm in the West Bank, during a raid where IDF soldiers set fire to civilian homes and used bulldozers to destroy residential areas. (Al Jazeera) Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip Eleven Palestinians are killed and six others are injured in an Israeli strike on a residential building in Beit Lahiya in the Gaza Strip. (DW) Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine A ferry carrying 30 fuel tanks sinks in the port of Kavkaz, in Krasnodar Krai, Russia, following a Ukrainian attack. (Reuters) The International Atomic Energy Agency announces an investigation of the Kursk Nuclear Power Plant following accusations from Russia that a Ukrainian drone targeted the power plant. (Reuters) Boko Haram insurgency Suspected Boko Haram militants kill 13 farmers in Shiroro, Niger State, Nigeria. (Barron's) At least eleven police officers are killed in an ambush on a convoy by armed attackers near Rahim Yar Khan, Punjab, Pakistan. (Sky News) Arts and culture The government of Botswana presents to the public a 2,492-carat raw diamond, discovered by the Lucara diamond and mining company from the Karowe diamond mine, and said to be the second largest in the world. (AP) (The Guardian) Business and economy 2024 Canada railway shutdown Canadian National Railway and Canadian Pacific Kansas City lock out roughly 10,000 unionized railroad workers in Canada, leading to a railway stoppage that impacts many North American supply chains and may cost the economy of Canada C$341 million per day. (Reuters) In response to the railway stoppage, Canadian labour minister Steven MacKinnon refers the two disputes to binding arbitration. (CBC News) Disasters and accidents 2023–2024 South American drought 2024 Brazil wildfires Nearly 1,500 firefighters are dispatched to contain intense wildfires that are causing dense hazardous smoke to fully "engulf" Porto Velho, Rondônia, Brazil, with the total number of wildfires in Brazil reaching 59,000 since the start of the year. (The Guardian) Thai Flying Service Flight 209 Nine people are killed when a Cessna 208 Caravan crashes into a mangrove forest in Chachoengsao shortly after taking off from Suvarnabhumi Airport in Bangkok, Thailand. (AP) (The Nation Thailand) Eleven people are killed after a boat carrying migrants capsize while trying to cross the Drina river from Serbia to Bosnia and Herzegovina. (Reuters) Seven people are killed and 12 others are injured after a fire at a hotel in Bucheon, Gyeonggi Province, South Korea. (The Nation Thailand) Health and environment 2023–2024 mpox epidemic Burundi reports 171 new mpox cases, bringing the total number of cases in the country to 572 cases. (Barron's) Sri Lanka reports its first two cases of mpox, but does not specify the clade the cases are from. (Dhauru) International relations Belarus–China relations Belarus and China agree to greatly strengthen mutual trade, financial, energy, and security cooperation, which includes enhancing industrial supply chains and collaboration with the Guangdong-Hong Kong-Macau Greater Bay Area. (Reuters) Law and crime Treatment of women by the Taliban The Taliban bans women from singing, reciting poetry, or reading aloud in public and mandates that women must wear a veil in public under new laws approved by the Supreme Leader as part of efforts to combat "vice" and promote "virtue". (Al Arabiya) Politics and elections 2024 Indonesian local election law protests, 2024 Indonesian local elections Thousands of people gather outside the House of Representatives in Jakarta, Indonesia, as well as in other major cities across the country, to protest attempted changes to local elections law that would benefit the ruling coalition, in defiance of two recent Constitutional Court decisions. (BBC News) Police fire tear gas and water cannons at protesters attempting to storm the House of Representatives, prompting the Parliament to delay and eventually cancel the vote on the proposed changes. (AP) 2024 Venezuelan presidential election The Supreme Court of Venezuela certifies the results of the 2024 presidential election, denying claims that opposition candidate Edmundo González Urrutia won the election. (AP) Human rights in Afghanistan, Afghanistan and the United Nations The Taliban prohibits Richard Bennett, the United Nations special rapporteur on human rights in Afghanistan, from entering the country, accusing him of spreading propaganda. (DW)

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(Attention needed) RD: Arthur J. Gregg

Article: Arthur J. Gregg (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ArmyTimes
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:6132:7E42:1CB9:9DC9 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Cornmazes (talk · give credit), Bob305 (talk · give credit) and MIDI (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

U.S. Army General and namesake of Fort Gregg-Adams. 240F:7A:6253:1:6132:7E42:1CB9:9DC9 (talk) 15:52, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment - All sections needs sourcing before being approved.BabbaQ (talk) 06:47, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support This article has enough details & references. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 19:29, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Admins willing to post ITN: I think this is good enough to post, so it’d be good if someone looked at it & made a decision. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 23:51, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Sphen

Article: Sphen and Magic (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS News
Credits:

• Nominated by 193.165.236.224 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Notable pair of penguins, article seems to be in good shape. 193.165.236.224 (talk) 13:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support the article has been significantly updated and there is specific coverage of the death of Sphen. As such, I believe this meets the threshold of ITN. Note: a separate article is not required for ITNRD, as per Individuals who do not have their own article but who have significant coverage on an article about a group (e.g. one member of a musical group) are eligible for a recent deaths entry on a case-by-case basis., which I believe is met here. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:22, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support RIP to one of the most unusual queer icons. The article is in a good shape and looks ready to be posted however, his death was announced yesterday as I read it in the today's morning paper. I think this entry should be moved to August 22nd. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:20, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Done. Natg 19 (talk) 17:25, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:41, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Canada railroad shutdown

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Article: 2024 Canada railroad shutdown (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Canadian rail freight traffic shuts down after the Canadian National Railway Company and Canadian Pacific Kansas City fail to reach an agreement with the Teamsters union. (Post)
News source(s): The Wall Street Journal
Credits:

• Nominated by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit)

• Oppose the article is literally 2 sentences long. RachelTensions (talk) 05:46, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose article is a stub and news is not something that is blurbworthy. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 09:19, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Rail strikes are not unusual and I don't see that this one is particularly more noteworthy. Black Kite (talk) 09:21, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Article is a stub and such events are not uncommon. Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:18, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Article is currently a stub, and noteworthiness has not been demonstrated. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 13:34, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Weak Oppose The article is a stub which makes this nom a non-starter. In terms of notability, as a Canadian, this is big news in my city and is being very widely discussed. However, I accept that it is currently regional news and thus not sufficiently notable for ITN. If the rail strike persists and causes a cascading economic impact, we should revisit. Flip^andFlopped ツ 14:15, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability, once the article is properly expanded. As the WaPo headline says, Huge Canadian railway work stoppage threatens U.S. economy. Nsk92 (talk) 14:46, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose — Local dispute. STSC (talk)
• Oppose as the article is a stub. However, if the strike ends up causing significant economic damage, then I might reconsider. Gödel2200 (talk) 17:27, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The shutdown didn't even last a day. Johndavies837 (talk) 00:52, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Mike Lynch

Article: Mike Lynch (businessman) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Kcmastrpc (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Bayesian (yacht) sinking victim that was missing has been found. –  Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:17, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Support Article looks detailed and well sourced. Flyingfishee (talk) 13:10, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Support With the blurb nom closed, we should promptly RD this. Flip^andFlopped ツ 15:23, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Looks solid to me. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:43, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment So the story is evolving now into a criminal investigation. I don’t know if this rises to the level of ITN blurb; but it’s certainly interesting. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:42, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

  I would say not... it's in the news, and generating lots of headlines, but the lasting impact and wider effects of this are fairly limited.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:57, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

August 21

Portal:Current events/2024 August 21

August 21, 2024 (2024-08-21) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine 2024 Kursk offensive The Ukrainian military reports that it used United States-made weapons to destroy several pontoon bridges constructed by Russia following its destruction of at least three bridges over the Seym river in Kursk Oblast. (Reuters) Mayor of Moscow Sergey Sobyanin states that Ukraine launched one of its largest drone attacks on the Russian capital, and claims that all drones were taken down without casualties or damage based on preliminary information. (Reuters) Eastern Ukraine campaign Pokrovsk offensive The Russian Ministry of Defense states it has fully captured the village of Zhelanne in Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine. (Anadolu Agency) Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy acknowledges advancements made by Russian Armed Forces on the Pokrovsk front, and announces the strengthening of regional Ukrainian positions in order to resist further advancements. (Reuters) Islamist insurgency in the Sahel Burkina Faso, Mali, and Niger write to the United Nations Security Council to denounce Ukrainian support for rebel groups in the Sahel region of West Africa. (Reuters) Israel–Hamas war 2024 Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel Hamas fires two rockets from the Gaza Strip with sirens sounding in Sderot, Ibim, and Nir Am. (Middle East Monitor) Israeli incursions in the West Bank during the Israel–Hamas war, Israel–Hezbollah conflict, Israeli–Palestinian conflict One injured in Hezbollah launching 50 rockets, drone strikes and shelling on IDF's Tsnobar logistics site and several other IDF sites in the Golan Heights and Zar'it in northern Israel.(Al Jazeera) A Syrian national and Khalil al-Muqdah, a commander in the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, is killed in an Israeli airstrike in Sidon and Khiam in southern Lebanon. (Al Jazeera) (Al Jazeera) One killed and two injured in an Israeli airstrikes on a Hezbollah ammunition depot, an air defense system and the villages of Abu Sash, Wadi Hamool, Aita al-Shaab, Ramiya and Talousa of the Beqaa Valley. (Al Jazeera) Somali Civil War Nine people, including five security officers and four civilians are killed and dozens are injured in an Al-Shabaab suicide car bomb attack on a security checkpoint on the Mogadishu–Afgoye highway in Somalia. (Daily Post Nigeria) Business and economy Unemployment in the United States The United States Department of Labor issues a significant estimate correction stating that the U.S. economy added 818,000 fewer jobs between April 2023 and March 2024 than what was initially reported in July, the largest estimate revision since 2009. (AP) (CNBC) 2024 Canada railway shutdown Canada's two largest freight railroads Canadian Pacific Kansas City and Canadian National Railway announce a complete shutdown of services due to a contract dispute, shutting out its Teamsters-represented union workers. (Reuters) (AP) With regards to the rapid growth of the artificial intelligence market, Bloomberg alleges that technology companies are "concealing their actual carbon footprints" by invoking outdated emissions accounting rules. (Bloomberg) Disasters and accidents Atchutapuram pharmaceutical factory explosion At least seventeen workers are killed and 41 others are injured, many from severe chemical burns, in an explosion at a pharmaceutical facility in Anakapalli, Andhra Pradesh, India. (Indian Express) (NDTV) Twenty-eight people are killed and 23 others are injured when a bus carrying Shia Pakistani pilgrims to the Arba'in pilgrimage in Iraq crashes and overturns in Yazd province, Iran. (Reuters) Four bodies are recovered from the superyacht Bayesian that sank two days ago, bringing the death toll to five. The search for the last missing person is ongoing. (Reuters) Health and environment 2023–2024 mpox epidemic Thailand reports its first case of mpox in a 66-year-old European man who worked in an African country affected by the ongoing epidemic. (The New York Times) Several suspected cases of mpox clade 1b are reported in Somerset, England, United Kingdom. (Devon Live) Honduras reports five suspected cases of the new mpox clade. (Prensa Libre) Law and crime Hungary and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Hungary–Ukraine relations A Hungarian law restricting or removing state support and accommodations for Ukrainian refugees not from regions directly affected by the Russian invasion comes into effect. (BBC News) Sanski Most school shooting Three staff members are killed in a mass shooting at a school in Sanski Most, Bosnia and Herzegovina. The perpetrator, who also worked at the school, is seriously injured after shooting himself. (AP) Four people, including three children, are killed in a house fire in Bradford, England, United Kingdom. Police say that the fire was started deliberately and that a suspect has been arrested under suspicion of murder. (BBC News) Politics and elections International reactions to the 2024 Venezuelan presidential election The United States drafts a punitive sanctions list of sixty Venezuelan government officials from the country's National Electoral Council, Supreme Court, and counterintelligence police agency for alleged electoral fraud. (Reuters) The Ukrainian parliament approves the Rome Statute treaty established by the International Criminal Court, thereby allowing the country to become a state party once the government ratifies with the Secretary-General of the United Nations. (Ukrinform)

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(Posted) RD: David Anfam

Article: David Anfam (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ARTnews
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:7157:6A0D:C1D6:975F (talk · give credit)
• Created by Strattonsmith (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit), Strattonsmith (talk · give credit) and Blaylockjam10 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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English art historian, curator and author. 240F:7A:6253:1:7157:6A0D:C1D6:975F (talk) 11:47, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Weak Support while article is fully sourced and meets bare minimum requirement, I would still suggest a bit more expansion. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 16:29, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose WP:STUB at 1240 B (209 words).—Bagumba (talk) 04:00, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Support It’s been expanded & has enough details & references now. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 23:35, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted --PFHLai (talk) 23:59, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Roger Cook

Article: Roger Cook (landscaper) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): This Old House's website
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:5D40:44D2:9C5E:9E6 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Seasider53 (talk · give credit) and Dmoore5556 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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American landscaper and star of This Old House. 240F:7A:6253:1:5D40:44D2:9C5E:9E6 (talk) 15:11, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Weak Oppose the article needs a bit more expansion and there are couple of issues with some of the cited sources such as a Facebook source. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:36, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Nick Mileti

Article: Nick Mileti (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS Sports
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:5D40:44D2:9C5E:9E6 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TheCorriynial (talk · give credit), Normantas Bataitis (talk · give credit), Bob305 (talk · give credit) and Vycl1994 (talk · give credit)

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Founder of Cleveland Cavaliers. 240F:7A:6253:1:5D40:44D2:9C5E:9E6 (talk) 13:33, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose couple of paragraphs ending without a footnote and Publications sections sourcing. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:38, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Al Attles

Article: Al Attles (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

• Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by CalDoesIt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Former NBA player and coach. In good shape. Natg 19 (talk) 00:13, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Support article appears alright to me. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 09:18, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Support Sufficient quality.—Bagumba (talk) 10:55, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bill Pascrell

Article: Bill Pascrell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

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Member of the US House – Muboshgu (talk) 16:24, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article seems well sourced and no tags on it. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 17:17, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Wait there are couple of paragraphs ending without a footnote and Caucus memberships section needs more sourcing. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:23, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Support article is ready now. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 09:09, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support @PrinceofPunjab: Fixed up sourcing issues. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:42, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:54, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Nell McCafferty

Article: Nell McCafferty (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Irish Times
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:6C49:608C:B2F6:5005 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by INgIEroC (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Irish journalist and feminist campainger. 240F:7A:6253:1:6C49:608C:B2F6:5005 (talk) 13:41, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose early life section is unsourced and so are some of the other paragraphs. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:24, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

I've updated some of the references to be up to date now @PrinceofPunjab Duck Dur (talk) 21:44, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

@Duck Dur early life section still needs a bit more sources and Bibliography section is missing ISBN codes. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 09:07, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

I will update them later today Duck Dur (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) 2024 Yemen floods

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Article: 2024 Yemen floods (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Floods in western Yemen results in the deaths of at least 61 people and the displacement of 6,042 families (Post)
News source(s): Anadolu Agency
Credits:

• Nominated by Abo Yemen (talk · give credit)
• Created by Noble Attempt (talk · give credit)

Abo Yemen✉ 12:32, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support The floods are a notable event, and the article is thorough enough for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 13:08, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support death toll is significant enough and article is in a good shape. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:25, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Upon further thinking, I change my vote to Oppose now too due to insufficient updates. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 09:10, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

• Last update was for August 18. Stephen 19:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Doesn't seem to be in the news. A news search for "flooding" turns up stories about recent flooding in the Balearics, Bangladesh, Connecticut, Korea, Japan, Sudan, etc. Not seeing anything at all about Yemen. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:46, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Andrew Davidson. Flip^andFlopped ツ 14:17, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The article does not make it clear that significant flooding has occurred very recently, and the death toll applies to floods more generally taking place throughout July and August. Gödel2200 (talk) 17:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability. BilboBeggins (talk) 21:34, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Stale There's worldwide coverage of this--- more than a week ago. That's when this should have been posted. --Masem (t) 21:45, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
• Stale per above This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:18, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

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August 20

Portal:Current events/2024 August 20

August 20, 2024 (2024-08-20) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine 2024 Kursk offensive Russian military sources claim that Ukrainian forces have destroyed or damaged all three bridges over the Seym river in western Russia, potentially trapping Russian forces between the river, the Ukrainian border, and advancing Ukrainian forces. (AP) Eastern Ukraine campaign Pokrovsk offensive, Battle of Toretsk Russia claims that its forces have taken control of the settlement of New York in Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine. (Reuters) Ukraine says that Russian forces are launching heavy attacks on the Toretsk and Pokrovsk fronts. (Reuters) Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure Ternopil residents are urged to remain indoors after Russian drone strikes an industrial facility, causing a large fire and an increased concentration of chlorine in the air. (Reuters) (The Kyiv Indepenent) Israel–Hamas war Israel–Hamas war hostage crisis The Israel Defense Forces recover the bodies of six hostages who were kidnapped by Hamas in the initial October 7, 2023 attack, including Alex Dancyg, from the Khan Younis area in Gaza. (Reuters) Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip At least twelve Palestinians, including two children, are killed in an Israeli airstrike on a school used to shelter displaced people in Gaza City. (Middle East Eye) Israel–Hezbollah conflict The Israeli Air Force launches airstrikes on the Hezbollah stronghold of Baalbek in the Beqaa Valley in Lebanon. (Haaretz) Four people are killed and two others are injured by Israeli strikes in Daraya, Mount Lebanon Governorate, Lebanon, according to the Lebanese Health Ministry. In response, Hezbollah launches 55 drone strikes on 3 IDF positions in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights. (Arab News) Disasters and accidents At least 20 bodies are recovered from the Lukenie River in Mai-Ndombe Province, Democratic Republic of the Congo, following the capsizing of a boat carrying around 300 passengers over the weekend. At least 46 people are rescued and about 250 others remain missing. (AP) Health and environment 2023–2024 mpox epidemic The Ivory Coast reports 21 new cases of mpox as well as the country's first death from mpox. (La Presse) A Liberia-flagged ship on the Paraná River near Rosario, Argentina, is quarantined after suspected cases of mpox are detected on the ship. The Argentine Health Ministry subsequently activates an emergency protocol against mpox. (Reuters) (CNN) Malawi declares mpox a public health emergency, following growing concerns and a reported probable case of mpox in the country. (MBC Malawi) International relations Azerbaijan–Russia relations Azerbaijan formally applies to join the BRICS economic bloc following a meeting between President Ilham Aliyev and Russian President Vladimir Putin in Baku, Azerbaijan. Aliyev also approves US$120 million to expand Russian–Azerbaijani cargo trade. (AP) Germany–Iran relations Following the ordered closure of the Islamic Centre Hamburg in Hamburg, Germany, Iran orders the closure of two branches of a German language school in Tehran for "breaching Iranian law, committing various illegal actions and extensive financial violations." In response, Germany summons the Iranian ambassador. (DW) Haiti–United States relations, Illegal drug trade in Haiti The United States Treasury Department imposes sanctions on musician and former Haitian President Michel Joseph Martelly for allegedly using his influence to facilitate drug trafficking in the country as well as into the United States. (Al Jazeera) North Korea–South Korea relations A North Korean staff sergeant defects to South Korea after crossing the Korean Demilitarized Zone into Goseong County, Gangwon, and is taken into South Korean custody. (Reuters) Law and crime Israel–Hamas war protests in the United States Several pro-Palestinian demonstrators are arrested after protestors clashed with police near the Israeli consulate in Chicago, Illinois, United States, on the second night of the Democratic National Convention. (AP) Law of Ukraine "On the Protection of the Constitutional Order in the Field of Activities of Religious Organizations" Ukrainian lawmakers pass a bill to ban the activities of all Russia-associated religious groups across Ukraine, including the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, following arrests of dozens of the church's clerics on treason charges for alleged involvement in Russian espionage and the transfer of a cleric to Russia in a prisoner swap. (Reuters) (AP) Suspected serial killer Collins Jumaisi Khalusha, accused of murdering 42 women, escapes from police custody in Nairobi, Kenya. (Al Jazeera) The Taliban's virtue ministry dismisses 281 members of the security force for failing to grow a beard and announces that they also destroyed 21,328 musical instruments in the past year and prevented thousands of computer operators from selling "immoral and unethical" films in markets. (Al Arabiya) Science and technology BMW recalls more than 720,000 vehicles due to an electrical issue with the vehicle's water pump that could potentially cause a vehicle fire. (AP)

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(Posted) RD: Maryvonne Le Dizès

Article: Maryvonne Le Dizès (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Strad
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
• Created by Rigg (talk · give credit)

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Violinist of the Ensemble intercontemporain for more than 20 years, collaborating with founder Pierre Boulez and other composers, commissioning new works, teaching for decades - and had no article until her death became known on 20 August (only one in Russian which we didn't consult). There could be more detail about recordings but I'm out for the day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:19, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Support article looks good enough to me. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 16:32, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Support 750h+ 11:00, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Support Well-sourced. Have added some recordings. Date of death as yet unclear. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:27, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Support This has enough details & references. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 22:01, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 22:41, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Atsuko Tanaka

Article: Atsuko Tanaka (voice actress) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Official Statement by Hikaru Tanaka on Twitter
Credits:

• Nominated by Tofusaurus (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Miraclepine (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Japanese voice actress. Tofusaurus (talk) 13:16, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment if you take out the tables with her roles, there is very little article left. JA-wiki seems to have more thorough information about her life that could be translated and used.Jaguarnik (talk) 17:34, 20 August 2024 (UTC) Support, the article has been made much better.Jaguarnik (talk) 03:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment I’ve tagged the article as a stub. Schwede66 07:56, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose surprised at the almost fully sourced filmography tables, but article needs a bit more prose. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:35, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support I've added a lot of sourced prose translated from the jawiki page; should be of sufficient quality. ミラP@Miraclepine 23:59, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 18:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Sam Landsberger

Article: Sam Landsberger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4], [5]
Credits:

• Nominated by Happily888 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Totallynotarandomalt69 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

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 Happily888 (talk) 12:01, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose article is barely a stub. Natg 19 (talk) 16:23, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Tragic, but there is almost no prose to the article. I can count the sentences in it on my fingers. Not good nor lengthy enough for RD. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 01:38, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose article is a stub. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:34, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose stub article with practically no information about his life, created after death, borderline notability if any. Black Kite (talk) 09:23, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Maria Branyas

Article: Maria Branyas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS News, El País
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:900E:954A:2704:19B9 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by MIDI (talk · give credit) and INgIEroC (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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American-born Spanish supercentenarian. 240F:7A:6253:1:900E:954A:2704:19B9 (talk) 11:44, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Oldest Living Person, RIP MyriadSims (talk) 14:32, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Oldest person alive dies is notable. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 17:18, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Article is good and sourced, has been since previous title holder died. And we did list her in RD. TheCorriynial (talk) 17:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support A good article with biography and archive photos. Trepang2 (talk) 19:05, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support page meets requirements. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 21:28, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Memory eternal. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:38, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Post posting support RIP, article quality appears fine. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 23:02, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

August 19

Portal:Current events/2024 August 19

August 19, 2024 (2024-08-19) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Eastern Ukraine campaign Pokrovsk offensive Ukrainian officials order the immediate evacuation of the remaining 53,000 citizens in Pokrovsk due to the advancement of the Russian Armed Forces. (Al Jazeera) Russia captures the city of Zalizne and the Vyimka railway station in Donetsk Oblast. (Reuters) Belarusian involvement in the Russian invasion of Ukraine Belarus announces that it has further increased its Belarus–Ukraine border presence against Ukraine significantly, adding aircraft and air defense forces following its accusations of Ukraine's military sending 120,000 troops to its border and conducting "aggressive policies". Ukraine denies Lukashenko's claims, stating its forces have not observed unusual movements of Belarusian troops on the border. (Reuters) Israel–Hezbollah conflict An Israeli soldier is killed and several others are injured in Hezbollah rocket launches at IDF positions in Ya'ara and Biyadh Blida, with Burkan missiles and drone strikes in Western Galilee being intercepted by the Iron Dome. Hezbollah claims that it attacked and repelled Israeli soldiers attempting to infiltrate southern Lebanon through the Hadab Aita forest and had inflicted casualties. (Al Jazeera) Two Hezbollah militants are killed in Israeli airstrikes on Hezbollah infrastructure in southern Lebanon. (Al Jazeera) Eight civilians are injured in an Israeli airstrike on a Hezbollah weapons facility in the eastern Beqaa Valley of Lebanon. (Reuters) Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Three soldiers and five Pakistani Taliban gunmen are killed during a shootout in Bajaur District, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan. (AP) Arts and culture Maria Branyas, the former world's oldest known living person, dies at the age of 117 years and 168 days, making Tomiko Itooka the new current oldest living person. (AP) Disasters and accidents Two people are killed by flooding in Oxford, Connecticut, United States. (CNN) One person is killed and fifteen others are rescued when the United Kingdom-flagged superyacht Bayesian sinks near Palermo, Italy, due to a waterspout. Six others remain missing, including British entrepreneur Mike Lynch. (AP) Health and environment 2023–2024 mpox epidemic Pakistan reports a case of mpox in Kashmir, bringing the total number of cases in the country to four. In response to the rapid increase of cases in the country, Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif announces that the country will begin screening people at entry points. (Hindustan Times) (Firstpost) The Philippine Department of Health reports its first case of mpox this year in a patient with no international travel history. (GMA Network) Health officials in Tainan City, Taiwan, report that they have confirmed three cases of mpox so far this year. (TVBS Taiwan) Law and crime One person is killed and eight injured during a mass shooting against a vehicle carrying migrants in Tubutama, Sonora, Mexico. (AP) Russian president Vladimir Putin signs a decree making it easier for foreign nationals who support "traditional values" and "oppose neoliberalism" to seek asylum in Russia. (Anadolu Agency) Former US Representative George Santos pleads guilty to wire fraud and aggravated identity theft, which will carry a sentence of at least two years. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2024 Kiribati parliamentary election Kiribati islanders vote in the second round of elections for the 44 members of the House of Assembly. (Radio New Zealand) Science and technology A rocket engine for Rocket Factory Augsburg's launch vehicle RFA One explodes during a test launch at the SaxaVord Spaceport in Scotland, United Kingdom. (BBC News) A rare blue supermoon appears in the sky. (Axios)

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2024 Kiribati parliamentary election

Article: 2024 Kiribati parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Taneti Maamau's (pictured) Tobwaan Kiribati Party wins the most seats in the 2024 Kiribati parliamentary election but not enough to form a government outright (Post)
News source(s): [6][7][8]
Credits:

• Nominated by Scu ba (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

It may be a minor country, but it was still a national election. Article could use an update to the infobox, as well as an aftermath section. Scu ba (talk) 02:49, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose The article contains a bunch of unsourced tables, and doesn't mention the results of the election in the lead. Gödel2200 (talk) 17:20, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Two days later, and it's still a somewhat sad looking election article. Schwede66 05:52, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  Yep I think it’s unlikely this article will be good enough quality before it’s too late to post. The good news is that Kiribati hasn’t decided on a president yet so maybe when that happens it can get posted. Flyingfishee (talk) 14:33, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Superyacht sinks

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Article: Bayesian (yacht) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The superyacht Bayesian is sunk in a storm and the missing passengers include tycoon Mike Lynch (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Created by Stephan Schulz (talk · give credit)

Article updated

• Comment The article (Bayesian (yacht)) should probably be Sinking of the Bayesian as the yacht itself isn't notable, only the event. The article is, regardless, currently a stub. Black Kite (talk) 20:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose good faith nom. One dead + several missing does not rise to the level of an ITN blurb. Additionally, article quality is nowhere near adequate. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose as comparatively trivial. An RD nom for Lynch may be in order soon, though. The Kip ^(contribs) 21:40, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. Just a human interest story that's a tad more notable because it involves someone of note. But fatal vehicle incidents are fairly routine. The target article probably shouldn't even have been created. DarkSide830 (talk) 01:01, 20 August 2024 (UTC)'
• Soft oppose but note that this would be an appropriate form of RD blurb - the death as an event is notable This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 01:38, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb, Support RD per Orbitalbuzzsaw. Flip^andFlopped ツ 13:37, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb, Oppose RD as Lynch has not been confirmed to be dead. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose all the things Tragic accident, notable person is probably dead, and if confirmed, RD makes sense. However, his impact on this world and untimely death do not rise to level of ITN blurb. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:01, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb, support RD if death confirmed. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 15:17, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

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(Ready) RD: Phil Donahue

Article: Phil Donahue (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News (USA)
Credits:

• Nominated by Staraction (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American talk show personality. Staraction (talk | contribs) 14:02, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support I don't see any citation-needed or other issues that would prevent this from being listed _pbp 15:40, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose a couple of cn tags, The Phil Donahue Show section does not have a source. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 15:54, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose due to citation needed tags. Suonii180 (talk) 17:41, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Support, Donahue reinvented the talk show format and brought the concept up a level or two. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:20, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Every person with an article is deemed notable enough for RD. So the only issue to be discussed here relates to the quality/sourcing of the article (see WP:ITNRD). Tradedia^talk 16:55, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Support CN tags seem to be resolved Kcmastrpc (talk) 16:57, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

As of now, I can see 4 "citation needed". Tradedia^talk 22:30, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Citation issues fixed. Thriley (talk) 23:46, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support This has enough details & references. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 23:51, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

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RD: Ruth Johnson Colvin

Article: Ruth Johnson Colvin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press, BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:F408:FA10:89EF:D1C4 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Yoshi876 (talk · give credit), Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American philanthropist and founder of ProLiteracy. 240F:7A:6253:1:F408:FA10:89EF:D1C4 (talk) 21:55, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose ProLiteracy section is unsourced and the published works section needs more references. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:33, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Tour de France Femmes

Article: 2024 Tour de France Femmes (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In cycling, Katarzyna Niewiadoma wins the Tour de France Femmes. (Post)
News source(s): Guardian BBC Le Monde
Credits:

• Nominated by Turini2 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Waluigithewalrus (talk · give credit), WL Pro for life (talk · give credit), PNwood213 (talk · give credit), Martijnvdam97 (talk · give credit) and Kaduuuuuu (talk · give credit)

Article updated

• Support Article is in a very good shape, looks like ready to posted. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 15:52, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support per PrinceofPunjab. Flip^andFlopped ツ 17:57, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Lead could use a bit of expansion, but otherwise, it looks good. Kcmastrpc (talk) 15:55, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

  Working on it - just finishing the race summary first. Turini2 (talk) 16:10, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

  done! Turini2 (talk) 16:50, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted. Has been up over 24 hours with only supports. Article appears to be of good quality. Black Kite (talk) 17:43, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Post-posting comment Since every edition of the Tour de France Femmes has been posted, it may be a good idea to make this an ITNR event. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 21:29, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

  +1 ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:31, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Franciszek Smuda

Article: Franciszek Smuda (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): SF-WP (in Polish)
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Big name in Polish football, internationally best known as the Poland national manager when hosting Euro 2012. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:52, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose mutiple cn tags and Honours section needs more sourcing. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 14:09, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

RD/blurb: Alain Delon

Article: Alain Delon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  French actor Alain Delon (pictured) dies at the age of 88 (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Brandmeister (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

I'm personally inclined for a blurb here. Name a French actor and he would be there. Brandmeister^talk 07:11, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb; not a serving head of state or government, manner of death not notable This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 07:17, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

  These are not the only criteria, we blurbed Tina Turner, Pele, Milan Kundera, Sydney Poitier, Betty White and others. BilboBeggins (talk) 07:27, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Those are not the criteria, and never have been. You are actively misleading other users by continuing to claim that they are. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Support blurb, legendary actor with storied career and varied international work, recipient of major awards like His name was long associated with standard, he defined what was a handsome male. BilboBeggins (talk) 07:25, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support blurb—To the best of my recollection, I haven't heard of Alain Delon before. However, I am sufficiently convinced of his status as a culturally significant figure in the history of cinema. His article is comprehensive, well-sourced, and illustrates just how iconic he was in a career that spanned several decades. Kurtis ^(talk) 08:28, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

  Revisiting my support, I don't think I gave the article a thorough enough review. I don't think it's too far off from being of high enough quality to be featured on the main page. All it needs is a few more citations in the paragraphs where they're lacking. Kurtis ^(talk) 01:35, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support RD, oppose blurb: Seems to be significant figure, but I doubt he's as noteworthy today to warrant a blurb. Tofusaurus (talk) 09:40, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

  It is one of rare cases where the article showed influence abd transformative criteria even before death of the person. BilboBeggins (talk) 11:45, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

  Notability is not temporary. This is frankly an absurd objection. Most celebrities die decades after their prime. Many young people will not even remember them. So what? Fame and influence remain. FWIW, he's well-known in Germany, too, probably in all of Europe and beyond, not only among cineasts. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 08:36, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• Picture A famous face for which we have a good selection of free images. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:45, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

  But we don't post picture RDs. BilboBeggins (talk) 11:46, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

  I'm not a fan of the idea of picture RDs, but you're begging the question. "This is how we've always done it" is an argument for when there's no other argument. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 21:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

  Nice reference to my username, thank you:) BilboBeggins (talk) 19:15, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support RD, neutral on blurb. Definitely one of the most famous French actors in history, but just doesn't rise to the Thatcher/Mandela standards we should keep blurbs to. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:29, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality but otherwise Support blurb. This is an example of what we should be looking for to demonstrate a major figure - a very in-depth legacy section (all sourced) that makes it clear to the reader why he was considered as such. No question on thus meriting a blurb. However, there are paragraphs in both the earlier career and sections and in the personal life section (including some of the legal aspects) that are unsourced, and must be fixed before posting. --Masem (t) 12:30, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Blurb, oppose RD on quality While certainly a renowned French artist but in my opinion he does not have enough caliber to have a blurb. RD cannot be posted right now because some section including Honours one needs more sourcing. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 14:15, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

  How does he have not enough caliber to ha e a blurb if there is transformative and influence section?

  Why was Billy Mays posted? BilboBeggins (talk) 19:49, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

  @BilboBeggins, First of all, I think you meant Willie Mays. FYI, I actually opposed his nomination. I believe that most of the things mention in the influence section are just comments made by some famous persons in some interviews and majority of things in that section are trivial and the whole section seems to be blown a little out of proportions. I am actually very much against the blurb death of a non head of state, Unless they die in a unnatural way. And before you bring out Betty White or Tony Bennett like in other comments made by you, I wasn't active in the ITN section at that time otherwise I would have opposed those too. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 08:13, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Support blurb: Despite being way too young to remember him properly, I should note he's one of the few actors we consider as vital, next to the likes of Sydney Poitier and Betty White (who did received the "blurb treatment", as well). Plus, he's been widely regarded as one of the main cinema icons of the last century, so the notability is definitely there. It's true, though, that the article still needs a bit of work before we can proceed, and I don't know if I'll be able to help myself... Oltrepier (talk) 14:23, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support blurb (if quality is fixed) One of the last giants of world cinema. Tradedia^talk 15:44, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Support blurb: I wouldn't normally support a blurb for an actor but the Sydney Poitier and Betty White precedents argue in its favour. He was arguably among the three best known french actors abroad along with Catherine Deneuve and Gérard Depardieu and had a major following in Japan. The original sin was in accepting blurbs for actors in the first place Varoon2542 (talk) 15:43, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

I would rather educate myself about dead legendary artists, than read about the latest PDC World Darts Championship. Tradedia^talk 16:02, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

I won't be disagreeing with that Varoon2542 (talk) 19:33, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support RD, oppose blurb: Important, but not enough for a blurb. Scheridon (talk) 16:09, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose blurb - Per above PrecariousWorlds (talk) 16:44, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Could you please elaborate on that? I would very much like to hear you rationale for oppose because I really didn't see any rule-based rationales from other oppose voters, its mostly about opinions. BilboBeggins (talk) 19:52, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

That's how RD blurbs work, it's generally based on opinion. WP:ITNRDBLURB and all. Kcmastrpc (talk) 22:10, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support blurb when quality is improved. He is certainly one of the most influential and renowned French icons of the past century.  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 17:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment I won’t express my opinion on this nomination, but after seeing how extensive is the influence and legacy section, all oppose votes should be disregarded as they obviously come from people who either don’t like a blurb to be posted or lack basic understanding about how Wikipedia works.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 18:56, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

  @Kiril Simeonovski I respect your point of view, but I think it is essential to understand that those who disagree do not always mean they are ignorant of rules of Wikipedia. The fact that someone is opposed to a nomination does not necessarily imply that they are against putting a blurb or lack basic knowledge on Wikipedia’s process. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 08:02, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

  Nobody here is opposed to a blurb because they don't like it, where are you getting this idea from? Saying "all oppose vote should be disregarded" shows your blatant bias against other editors who oppose in good faith. Tofusaurus (talk) 10:19, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb. The man is notable, the actual event of his death is not. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 21:30, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

The deaths of sufficiently notable people are notable, and that's why we have both RD and (occasionally) death blurbs. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support RD, neutral on blurb there really needs to be more clear-cut/explicit criteria for what is appropriate to be blurbed, which is why I am staying neutral on the blurb. As far as I've seen, nobody has a good argument for why Willie Mays or Tony Bennett or Betty White's deaths were appropriate to be blurbed but Delon's death isn't, when the circumstances are more or less the same (old celebrity dies of poor health). Article quality is fine, except for the family section - one more statement needs to be cited, and the quality of the other sources is poor. For instance, geneanet is user-aggregated and thus shouldn't be used as a source of info. (To be honest I would just remove the family section entirely.) When those issues are fixed, it will be good to post as RD. Jaguarnik (talk) 21:52, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

  My argument is as it has always been that none of your examples deserved a blurb - if we're blurbing the death, the death (NOT the person) has to be notable as an event in itself - hence the serving political leader criterion This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 23:06, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

  This is not what rules say. There has been nothing notable about deaths of Tony Bennet, Queen Elisabeth, Pele or Pope Benedict XVI. They were all blurbed though. BilboBeggins (talk) 05:56, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

  There needs to be a request for comment about this topic, because at this point it doesn't seem that there's a rationale for blurbing someone's death other than "We blurbed x so why not y". A consensus would be good. Jaguarnik (talk) 18:54, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• More than 15 paragraphs that lack a single reference, and lots of other unreferenced material. Stephen 22:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
• Not Ready for RD for the usual reason. Neutral on a blurb if we can get the article up to scratch. He was one of the top actors in France, but the community has turned down giants in the field. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:05, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
• Bibliography comment Alain Delon § Bibliography is not the usual list of works by the subject. It's an extensive listing about the subject. Disucssion at Talk:Alain Delon § Bibliography. Missing ISBNs too.—Bagumba (talk) 04:09, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Comment WILL EVERYONE STOP ATTACKING EACH OTHER PLEASE!! Thank you, anyways here’s a solution for now: put him in the RD we debate a little more for blurb. relax and stop attacking each other agressively Ion.want.uu (talk) 14:23, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Support blurb Very influential actor, I have not heard about him before but he seems to be a very important figure in films. Still some problems needing to be fixed but once they’re fixed I reckon we blurb him. 27.96.223.192 (talk) 06:28, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

• Lean oppose blurb Articles and discussions like this sometimes make me feel like I just intersected with a parallel universe or another planet. How could I, considering myself to be a reasonably well-informed individual, have missed being aware of someone who is apparently so prominent? It's nice to have Wikipedia to remind me that there is a world outside of my own country (the United States), and sometimes a global culture is not so global. We may be entirely ignorant of many of each others' celebrities, for example. Although my experience may not be representative of that of others, with one or two exceptions, I was not aware of Delon nor his films.

I believe global notability, at least within the English-speaking world, ought to be a prerequisite for inclusion as a blurb in the English language Wikipedia. Since that threshold is arbitrary, however, this forum provides a good test for determining global notability. I have no issue with entertainers being included if they are determined to have sufficient notability. As one test, one could compare him with others born in the same year. Among Delon's peers who were born in 1935, I believe Elvis Presley, Luciano Pavorotti, Julie Andrews and Woody Allen are some of the most notable entertainers who would reach that threshold. Despite some impressive achievements in French cinema, I don't believe Alain Delon passes the threshold of global notability in the English-speaking world for inclusion as a blurb.Ryan Reeder (talk) 07:14, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

No. This is Wikipedia in English, not Wikipedia about people who speak English. There is not, and never should be, any requirement that our subjects be especially famous in the English-speaking world rather than any other language sphere. Your own admitted ignorance of French cinema is a sign that you are being parochial, not that Alain Delon was not famous. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

This is why notability is pretty relative and depends on cultural context, and why one person's judgement isn't enough to establish global notability. As a French person myself, I see Alain Delon as a defining figure of French cinema and assumed he would be much more well-known internationally than he might actually be. On the other hand, I haven't heard as much about the achievements of Pavorotti or Andrews, and would have underestimated their notability compared to Delon's. This kind of notability depends a lot on the cultural sphere one lives in, which means hearing from editors with various perspectives is great to see whether someone is truly globally notable.
Like Genevieve said, I don't think notability within the English-speaking world should be a prerequisite rather than global notability, but either way, it seems like Delon might just not be reaching that threshold. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:36, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

First, he passes threshold of global notability.

Second, we don't require English a person to be famous in English speaking world in order to qualify for a blurb, this not in the rules.

Third, Delon has 120 Wikipedia articles in different languages, Pavarotti has 95 articles, Julie Andrews has 84 articles, Woody Allen has 109 articles. He surpasses them on the metric of number of articles.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎BilboBeggins (talk • contribs) 12:47, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality for now. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Blurb democracy manifest guy had considerably more press vs this dude, and he didn't even get a RD mention. Also, orange tagged, so oppose RD until the typical prominent actor dies citing concerns are fixed. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:30, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

  Apples and oranges. Some ordinary dude who came under spotlight after being arrested by Australian police vs an actor with a 70-year film career, culminated in multiple domestic and foreign awards. C'mon... Brandmeister^talk 16:15, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

  • And Democracy Manifest also missed out on getting an RD(, a succulent Wikipedia RD!) based on the consensus of the community alas. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 17:47, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

  Democracy manifest guy was more recent hence more press. If Delon was in his peak today he would have plenty of press coverage. 27.96.223.192 (talk) 06:25, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality, several parts of the article have sourcing issues. Suonii180 (talk) 17:43, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality grounds, currently still has a big tag on the top. No comment in relation to blurb or RD but leaning against blurbing if it gets sorted. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 17:47, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb if every celebrity with an "influence" and "recognition by peers" section in their article is inherently notable enough to merit a blurb, then we should be auto-blurbing basically every major dead actor or singer. Instead, we gauge notability by coverage in the press and while there is some coverage, it does not rise beyond the standard level of obituary coverage expected of a celebrity. Flip^andFlopped ツ 18:01, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

  Isn't it what exactly took place with Sydney Poitier and Betty White ?

  How is Betty White notable ? Noone actually knows her outside of the US

  For years, notability has been determined on one criteria, "who Wikipedia editors know" and that usually depends on geography and age

  I'm sure older Americans have heard of him

  We are pretending to be impartial when we've never been

  If Alain Delon, doesn't even get an RD by now, no french actor will ever be seen as deserving one Varoon2542 (talk) 19:28, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

  Sydney Poitier was hugely influential figure not just for his skill as an actor but for his role in breaking color barriers in the film industry. Betty White was buoyed by a wave of fan supports. Honestly, she should not have been posted. It's worth noting that very famous actors are routinely rejected including Kirk Douglas and Olivia de Havilland, two giants from the golden age of Hollywood. The only issue keeping Delon from RD is the article's gnerally poor referencing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:19, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

  Worldwide, Poitier is not more influential than Delon. BilboBeggins (talk) 19:16, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

• Stats As we have the usual impasse at ITN, it is instructive to see what our readers are choosing. We find that:

1. Alain Delon was the top read article on Wikipedia yesterday with about double the readership of the closest competition – Alien: Romulus
2. Most of the ITN blurb articles do not have significant readership -- they are at the 10K level which is effectively the baseline for ITN. The only exception is Paetongtarn Shinawatra who got about 80K but that's still an order of magnitude less than Delon.

So, it's apparent that ITN is quite out of touch with the general readership. Our readers really don't care what stale stuff we run and just vote with their feet.

Andrew🐉(talk) 22:16, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Yet again, it must be stated that ITN does not consider readership numbers at all. We are not trying to optimize SEO hits or the like here. That's why the point of ITN is about featuring quality articles that are in the news (in line with all other sections of the main page) , not about being a news ticker simply to index hot news topics. — Masem (t) 23:15, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

@Masem: Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents is that way. BangJan1999 23:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

That doesn't mean Masem's comment as it related to how ITN decisions are made isn't relevant. DarkSide830 (talk) 01:04, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Why would anyone need to go to ANI about this? Y'all are weird. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:02, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Maybe because this has been a consistent yet constant feature of AD on ITN/C, and of the multiple folks who have tried their best to remind him that no, ITN is not a news ticker. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 23:43, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality Article needs improvement in terms in sourcing. Once these issues are addressed, I can support blurb since article establishes his impact in the field of cinema spanning languages/regions. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 08:14, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb once the article's quality is there. It establishes how transformative and famous he was internationally, he probably is among the few non-Hollywood actors you should consider for this. --Clibenfoart (talk) 16:02, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Quality needs a lot of improvement. I commented on the talk page, but the Influence on his contemporaries and legacy section is overstuffed and may have a lot of original research to claim that xyz film or actor was influenced by Delon. Natg 19 (talk) 17:13, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb on improved article. He's such a stylish film icon internationally, he really deserves a blurb. STSC (talk)

Still has a lot of citation needed tags, and 2 orange tags on the article. Natg 19 (talk) 05:40, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb. Not remotely of the same stature as Thatcher or Mandela, the usual benchmarks for the kind of globally known figure that would be posted. Blurbs are not just for people who did well in life and very successful, they're for the deaths that make you stop in your tracks when you see them. Also some way off on quality, so seems unlikely it will even make RD at this point, but who knows.  — Amakuru (talk) 06:18, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb Easily one of the most important actors of the 20th century. If Delon doesn't get a blurb then there's little hope for any non-hollywood actors getting a blurb. Flyingfishee (talk) 03:52, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

  Belmondo did. It's a moot point with the the outstanding page quality concerns. —Bagumba (talk) 15:35, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

August 17

Portal:Current events/2024 August 17

August 17, 2024 (2024-08-17) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip August 2024 Deir el-Balah attacks Eighteen people from the same family are killed in an airstrike in the town of Az-Zawayda in the Gaza Strip. (AP) (Reuters) Israeli incursions in the West Bank during the Israel–Hamas war Two senior Hamas militants are killed in an Israeli airstrike in Jenin in the occupied West Bank. (Reuters) Three-phase Israel–Hamas war ceasefire proposal Israeli officials state that they are attempting to "lower expectations" of a ceasefire deal due to significant gaps between Israel and Hamas demands, after United States president Joe Biden stated that he was "optimistic" about the progress of US-mediated negotiations in Qatar. (Al Jazeera) Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine 2024 Kursk offensive Rockets launched by the Armed Forces of Ukraine destroy a Russian bridge over the Seym river in Glushkovo, Kursk Oblast. Russia's foreign ministry claims that the missiles were launched using Western-made rocket launchers and that the missiles killed volunteers who were evacuating Russian civilians. (Reuters) Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War, Budget of Germany, Germany–Ukraine relations Germany issues an indefinite ban on requesting or providing new military aid to Ukraine that has not already been approved in order to reduce federal budget spending. The moratorium results in a "tangible dispute" within the Scholz coalition government. (Politico) (The Kyiv Independent) Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant crisis The International Atomic Energy Agency declares that the safety of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant is deteriorating, following an investigation into an explosive drone strike that targeted a perimeter access road at the power plant. (Reuters) Israel–Hezbollah conflict August 2024 Nabatieh attack Ten Syrian citizens, including two children, are killed in an Israeli airstrike on a residential building in Nabatieh, Lebanon. (Al Jazeera) (Reuters) Hezbollah reportedly strikes the Ayelet HaShahar kibbutz in Upper Galilee, Israel, wounding two Israeli soldiers in retaliation. (Reuters) Somali Civil War 2024 Mogadishu tea shop bombing At least 20 people are killed and ten others are injured in a bombing at a tea shop in Daynile District, Mogadishu, Somalia. (Aussiedlerbote) (IDil News) Sudanese civil war Galgani massacre At least 85 people are killed in arson and looting attacks amid a rampage by Rapid Support Forces in the village of Galgani in Sennar State, Sudan. (AP) Disasters and accidents 2024 Lebanese blackout The state electricity company of Lebanon Électricité du Liban runs out of fuel reserves and announces that it can no longer supply power to the country, leading to a complete nationwide blackout. (The National) (Iraqi News Agency) A 7.2-magnitude earthquake strikes off the eastern coast of Kamchatka Krai, Russia with a tsunami warning being issued. (Sky News) A Fouga Magister aircraft operated by the French Air Force performing an air show crashes off the coast of Le Lavandou, France, killing the pilot. (AFP via Euronews) Law and crime Six people are arrested in connection to a mass shooting due to feuds that occurred last week in Clarendon Parish, Jamaica, which killed eight people and injured nine others. (AP) Four convicts escape in a prison break at a psychiatric hospital in Straubing, Bavaria, Germany. (DW) Politics and elections For the first time, the Indonesian Independence Day ceremony is held simultaneously in Jakarta and Nusantara due to the relocation of the country's capital. (Detik)

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(Posted) RD: Silvio Santos

Article: Silvio Santos (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [9] [10]
Credits:

• Nominated by Maeslor (talk · give credit)
• Updated by SaxyGuy (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Brazilian media mogul and television host. He was the host of the second longest running Brazilian program: Programa Silvio Santos, aired since 1963. He was also the only celebrity in the country on the list of billionaires by Forbes magazine. The magazine also states that "there is no one more famous than Silvio Santos in Brazil." Maeslor

• Conditional oppose: I have no doubt he is a major figure in the country as both an entrepreneur and a television presenter, but the article on EN needs work (Portuguese Wikipedia has a more substantive article we could translate from. This one is not as complete and even cites YouTube in places). ViperSnake151  Talk  00:56, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

I have just translated the Death of Silvio Santos page, going on the background, announcement, and reactions in Brazil and worldwide. Erick Soares3 (talk) 13:19, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support I think the article is in a good enough shape to be posted. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 14:18, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support He was an important person and the article is not bad. Scheridon (talk) 16:14, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support, quite surprising this isn't in the main page yet. RodRabelo7 (talk) 18:59, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment the death spinout article has far too many quotes are reads more like a memorial piece. I question if that really needed to be spun out since the actual activities around the death are somwhat thin. Masem (t) 15:37, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support. Article looks good. Really, the death article is kinda extraneous and some of that content can be pulled over, but its 90% memorial commentary so it's not that big a deal. DarkSide830 (talk) 01:15, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support: Having so many people tune into his show for that long is remarkable. Connor Behan (talk) 01:37, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 15:11, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Black Caviar

Article: Black Caviar (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News Sydney Morning Herald
Credits:

• Nominated by Aydoh8 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Sunline02 (talk · give credit)

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Famous Australian racehorse. Aydoh8^[contribs] 05:04, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Support looks good enough to me. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 14:20, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on Quality. Lacking in references for Race record and Pedigree sections. DarkSide830 (talk) 17:49, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support This has enough details & references. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 23:53, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Kolkata doctor rape and murder case - protest

Proposed image

Article: 2024 Kolkata rape and murder incident (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Protset in support of R G Kar Medical College (pictured)A rape and murder incident prompts protests across India. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In India, doctors go on strike and nationwide protests occur after the rape and murder of a woman physician in Kolkata.
News source(s): News [11][12][13]
Credits:

• Nominated by Spworld2 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Arijit Kisku (talk · give credit), VSankeerthSai1609 (talk · give credit), Borgenland (talk · give credit) and Sunuraju (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: 2024 Kolkata doctor rape and murder case. Spworld2 06:04, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Snow oppose Horrifying case, but ITN usually doesn't post crimes committed against individual people. Furthermore, the article is not complete. Bremps... 06:19, 17 August 2024 (UTC) Outdated. Bremps... 22:25, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Usually this is not a small case against individuals, they were raped and killed with great brutality, public protests are continuing in all cities of India against this, doctors are also on strike in India.[14][15] [16][17][18][19][20] Spworld2 (talk) 06:30, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Also you can't call WP:SNOW on the 1st comment Abcmaxx (talk) 13:34, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

By that logic, George Floyd's murder wouldn't make it to ITN. –Jiaminglimjm (talk) 14:41, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Post posting support The original blurb said nothing about any protests. Bremps... 22:25, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose - "The incident took place when 'Trainee Doctor', a 31-year-old Trainee Doctor,......" sentence just ends there. No way we can post this, article doesn't even tell you what happened PrecariousWorlds (talk) 06:20, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

RD is mostly for the deaths of notable people/organisms, not for murder cases, even if high-profile. Good faith nom PrecariousWorlds (talk) 06:22, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

There is a law in India that the name of the victim in a rape case should not be disclosed Spworld2 (talk) 06:31, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

At the time I wrote that the article literally just consisted of 'a 31-year-old trainee doctor'. That was the only information about the incident in the entire article. I wasn't referring to the victim's name.PrecariousWorlds (talk) 16:29, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

The article has come a long way since, I do think its in a decent (not great) place for posting Schwinnspeed (talk) 22:28, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

[21][22] [23][24][25][26][27] Spworld2 (talk) 06:50, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

• This should not be an RD, this should be nominated as a blurb, but primarily due to the protests that have followed from the crime. --Masem (t) 17:51, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Not an RD nom anymore. (Not a wikibio.) Need a better blurb. --PFHLai (talk) 20:16, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support altblurb There is significant coverage of this in the news, both within India and internationally. A single incident wouldn't be ITN worthy but the notable thing here, as Masem stated, is the protests and response that followed. The altblurb highlights this a bit more clearly. Schwinnspeed (talk) 20:39, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
• If it does go up, I do feel the victim's name should not be omitted in the burb. It feels like the blurbs are discussing the protests more than the victim themselves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RJX74 (talk • contribs) 23:30, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, because the notable thing is the protests, not the murder itself. Also, WP:BDP applies. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 00:23, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Exactly. I was gonna the same the same to the first comment above. Brutal as a rape is, they're not so unusual in the country.Sportsnut24 (talk) 04:54, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Need to sort out which article is. the Alt that is not "incident" is best.Sportsnut24 (talk) 04:57, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Support Altblurb The incident have received widespread international coverage. The news about it has been featured on the multiple international newspaper's front page. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 14:45, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Support altblurb, really terrible news and the strikes have been gaining more coverage as Prince of Punjab said Dyaquna (talk) 02:22, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support notability quite clearly world news and affecting the world's most populous nation. Is there an article on the protests though? Abcmaxx (talk) 13:37, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• I do find it perplexing that the article focuses on the murder rather than the protests themselves. Most of the article's prose cover the protests. I understand they were much larger (early returns, granted), but wouldn't an incident such as the Mahsa Amini protests inform precedent on article focus here? DarkSide830 (talk) 17:57, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support altblurb If a countrywide medical worker strike in India is not notable, I don't know what to say to you. The article is well cited and is good quality enough for ITN. –Jiaminglimjm (talk) 14:45, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support on notability A countrywide medical strike seems to me to be notable enough. However, the lead could be significantly improved, and the article could better explain whether or not the strike is still ongoing. Gödel2200 (talk) 19:46, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability and preferably altblurb. Well cited and article is in good shape. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 06:23, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Slotted it at the nom's 17 Aug date, though protests and strikes occured earlier, as the strike went nationwide on 17th.[28] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bagumba (talk • contribs) 9:30, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

August 16

Portal:Current events/2024 August 16

August 16, 2024 (2024-08-16) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine 2024 Kursk offensive Ukraine reports capturing 82 Russian settlements within an area of 1,150 square kilometres (440 sq mi) since the start of the Kursk incursion on August 6. (Reuters) Over 120,000 Russian citizens have been evacuated according to Russia, and at least 100 Russian soldiers are captured according to Ukraine. (AP) Russia accuses the United States and European nations of directly helping Ukraine in its incursion on Kursk Oblast by planning operations and providing military support, and states that their involvement "created all the prerequisites for Ukraine to lose its sovereignty and lose part of its territories". (Reuters) A Russian Iskander-M ballistic missile strike on an airbase in Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, Ukraine, destroys a MiG-29 jet that was equipped with Storm Shadow missiles. Ukraine's air force spokesperson Yurii Ihnat later confirms the loss of the aircraft on August 20. There are no casualties reported. (The Kyiv Independent) Israeli–Palestinian conflict Israeli occupation of the West Bank One Palestinian is killed and many houses are burned down in a large organized Israeli settler raid on the village of Jit, Qalqilya Governorate, in the West Bank. (CNN) (Reuters) Ituri conflict Sixteen people are killed and 20 more kidnapped during an attack by Allied Democratic Forces militants at agricultural lands in Mambasa, Ituri Province, Democratic Republic of the Congo. (AP) Yemeni civil war Sixteen soldiers are killed and 18 more injured during a suicide car bombing in Mudiyah, Abyan Governorate, Yemen. Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula claims responsibility for the attack. (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents 2024 Pacific typhoon season Thousands of people are ordered to evacuate in northern Japan as Typhoon Ampil approaches the country. (AP) At least 54 people are killed in Chad after days of floods. (AL24News) Health and environment 2024 Gaza Strip polio outbreak The first case of polio in the Gaza Strip in 25 years is confirmed, coming from an unvaccinated 10-month-old child in Deir al-Balah. (Euronews) Law and crime Haitian crisis Eleven inmates are killed during shootouts with police after escaping from a jail in Saint-Marc, Haiti. (Al Jazeera) LGBT rights in Bulgaria Bulgaria passes a new amendment by a large parliamentary majority that bans “propaganda, promotion, and incitement” of LGBT “ideas and views” in schools, sparking criticism from several European LGBTQ+ organizations stating that the law will marginalize LGBTQ+ children. (Politico) The Argentine Federal Police dismantle an alleged Islamist terrorist organization planning attacks against Jewish community centers in Mendoza. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2024 United States presidential election Cornel West 2024 presidential campaign Independent presidential candidate Cornel West and his running mate Melina Abdullah are both disqualified from and refused entry on the 2024 Michigan presidential election ballot due to an improperly notarized form. (Washington Post) 2024 Dominican Republic general election Luis Abinader is sworn in for a second term as President of the Dominican Republic. (Reuters) The Thai House of Representatives selects Paetongtarn Shinawatra as the new Prime Minister, replacing Srettha Thavisin who was dismissed by the Constitutional Court on Wednesday. (Bloomberg) Science and technology Wow! signal, Search for extraterrestrial intelligence The Wow! signal is found to have likely been caused by a rare astrophysical event, the sudden brightening of a cold molecular cloud triggered by a stellar emission. (University of Puerto Rico at Arecibo)

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(Posted) RD: Daniela Larreal

Article: Daniela Larreal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Diario de la Americas News.com.au
Credits:

• Nominated by Kingsif (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Venezuelan cyclist; death announced on this date. Kingsif (talk) 15:01, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Prose has less than 150 words, needs a lot of expansion. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 15:50, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Expanded beyond stub, and I have included several older sources but am still looking for more behind the obits. So far, looks like she got more attention for politics than sports (Venezuela), but there should be some sources on e.g. her cycling World Cup wins. Kingsif (talk) 20:24, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support article is in a very good shape now. Major results section still needs some sources but there is nothing major holding it back from bring posted. Great work @Kingsif. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 09:14, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support per above. Flip^andFlopped ツ 15:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:00, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Scott Bloomquist

Article: Scott Bloomquist (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press, CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:9DB7:B240:8923:9CF9 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by MysticCipher87(alt-account) (talk · give credit), Red Director (talk · give credit) and HotMAN0199 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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American dirt track racing driver. 240F:7A:6253:1:9DB7:B240:8923:9CF9 (talk) 09:46, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose multiple orange tags that needs to be resolved. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 15:48, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality as per the multiple orange tags that are at the top of the page. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 23:46, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Afa Anoaʻi

Article: Afa Anoaʻi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Wrestling Observer-Figure Four Online, WWE
Credits:

• Nominated by The Kip (talk · give credit)
• Updated by K-popguardian (talk · give credit) and Vacant0 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Samoan pro wrestler, one half of the Wild Samoans. Article is actually pretty solid quality/citation-wise for a wrestling bio. The Kip ^(contribs) 22:29, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Photo RD but the usual is fine, too, per Kip. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:20, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support article looks ready to go. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 14:46, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Around a handful of Cn tags.—Bagumba (talk) 16:58, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

  Dont see any at this point.—Bagumba (talk) 15:03, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

  Somone changed the birthdate in the lead, which is different from what's in the body, which in turn is not found in the citation given. First match info is also unsourced.—Bagumba (talk) 15:31, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

  Resolved.—Bagumba (talk) 10:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support I've added missing references to the article, should be good now. --Vacant0 (talk• contribs) 12:39, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment — As usual for this page, most !votes appear to be based on seeing the mere presence of citations in the article. I see overall weak sourcing, tons of contextual holes (like many pro wrestling articles, it reads like an advertisement for WWE), statements not supported by sources, a lede that isn't a lede at all but rather a block of text separated from the rest of the article for purely stylistic purposes, etc. etc. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 12:56, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

  "Superstar" Billy Graham was a recent wrestling RD that at a glance seemed sourced, but upon further review had many refs not supporting all of the preceding sentences. Though this isn't limited to wrestling RDs. —Bagumba (talk) 15:56, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Seems well cited and no tags on it. 16:39, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support ready to go now. Flip^andFlopped ツ 14:12, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Two CN tags still outstanding. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:03, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

  Seems like the issue has been addressed (there are no cn tags atm). Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 10:14, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support This has enough details & references. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 17:22, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:46, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: John Lansing (journalist)

Article: John Lansing (journalist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NPR
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by ForsythiaJo (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Former CEO of NPR and chief of the U.S. Agency for Global Media. ForsythiaJo (talk) 20:40, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Support article in a good enough shape. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 14:47, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Posted—Bagumba (talk) 15:13, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Paetongtarn chosen as new Thai PM

Paetongtarn Shinawatra

Article: Paetongtarn Shinawatra (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Paetongtarn Shinawatra is chosen as Prime Minister of Thailand by the House of Representatives, replacing Srettha Thavisin who was dismissed by the Constitutional Court. (Post)
News source(s): Bloomberg BBC News The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Tofusaurus (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Propose to merge with the existing blurb on Srettha's dismissal, just like how we did with the Bangladesh PM. Tofusaurus (talk) 05:23, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support merge seems fine. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 09:11, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support merge also. River10000 (talk) 11:49, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment The proposed blurb says she was selected by the House, but her article currently says "parliament". This Bangkok Post article says it was the House, explictly stating that the Senate wasn't required.—Bagumba (talk) 11:53, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Support merge as per above. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 12:03, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality only A few unsourced statements but that should be easily fixed. --Masem (t) 13:40, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support merge, because it's a succession in head of government of Thailand, plus swap out the picture. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 13:52, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support merger but the few unsourced statements should be fixed. Gödel2200 (talk) 15:07, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Support merger pre above Prodrummer619 (talk) 17:25, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support merge per above. The Kip ^(contribs) 21:07, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
• @Admins willing to post ITN:  ? Natg 19 (talk) 00:51, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 01:32, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Yet again, another post without all the quality issued addressed. ITN (and the Main page) is supposed to represent WP's best work, this wasn't. — Masem (t) 16:56, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

  In my opinion, the article looks fine. A few (2-3) unsourced statements should not hold up posting. Natg 19 (talk) 19:30, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

  Issues have since been resolved. Tofusaurus (talk) 03:58, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Pull - Posting this was premature. She hasn't yet been formally appointed prime minister. [29] estar8806 (talk) ★ 18:12, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

The King has officially appointed her as Prime Minister. [30] Tofusaurus (talk) 04:00, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

U.S. results are regularly posted before a formal presidential inauguration. Let's be consistent, one way or another.—Bagumba (talk) 06:30, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

August 15

Portal:Current events/2024 August 15

August 15, 2024 (2024-08-15) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine 2024 Kursk offensive Ukrainian occupation of Kursk Oblast Ukraine establishes a military administration in Sudzha with major general Eduard Moskalyov appointed as its senior commander. General Oleksandr Syrskyi says that the administration will "maintain law and order" in the region. (BBC News) Russia announces the mandatory evacuation of all civilians from Glushkovsky District in Kursk Oblast. (Reuters) The Russian Defence Ministry claims that Russian forces have retaken the settlement of Krupets. (Anadolu Agency) The Security Service of Ukraine captures 102 Russian servicemen as prisoners of war, marking the largest single group of Russian soldiers to surrender during the conflict. (Bloomberg) Ukrainian troops and military vehicles enter Russia's Belgorod Oblast with the region declaring a state of emergency. Heavy fighting is reportedly underway. (The Washington Post) Eastern Ukraine campaign Pokrovsk offensive Pokrovsk's military administration issues immediate evacuation orders for its citizens due to shelling from Russian troops about 10 km away from the city in Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine. (UNN) Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War The United Kingdom says that Ukraine can use British weaponry, including Challenger 2 tanks, for its military operations inside Russia. (Sky News) Israel–Hamas war Evacuations during the Israel–Hamas war Peter Dutton, the leader of Australia’s Liberal Party, calls on the Australian government to ban the entry of Palestinian refugees fleeing from conflict in the Gaza Strip, which is met with significant condemnation from several politicians and organizations as promoting racial stereotypes. (ABC Australia) (Al Jazeera) SBS World News reports that the Australian government has rejected a majority of Palestinian visa applications, accepting 2,922 applications and rejecting 7,111 applications while granting 8,746 visas to Israeli citizens and rejecting only 235 applications. (Al Jazeera) Casualties of the Israel–Hamas war The Gaza Health Ministry reports that more than 40,000 Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, including more than 16,000 children, have been killed due to the ongoing Israeli invasion and blockade, and that more than 10,000 Palestinians are still missing. (Al Jazeera) Israel–Hezbollah conflict Hezbollah launches four rockets at IDF targets in Shamir and Malkia in Upper Galilee which were intercepted by the Iron Dome causing a fire in Shamir and Ruwaysat al-Alam of Kfarchouba in southern Lebanon. (Al Jazeera) Business and economy American video game magazine Game Informer discontinues publication after 33 years. The magazine's website is also shut down. (BBC News) Disasters and accidents A Russian Air Force Tupolev Tu-22M crashes due to a "technical malfunction" in Irkutsk Oblast, Russia. The pilots safely ejected, according to Russian media. (Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty) Health and environment 2023–2024 mpox epidemic Sweden reports the first case of the new mpox variant outside Africa in a patient in Stockholm. (Arab News) (Reuters) Pakistan reports its first case of mpox this year. (First Post) International relations Germany–United States relations, Foreign relations of NATO The United States approves the sale of 600 MIM-104 Patriot air defense missiles to Germany worth US$5 billion (€4.6 billion) to improve German national defense and the overall security of NATO. (DW) Law and crime 2022 Nord Stream pipeline sabotage Ukraine denies its involvement in explosions that damaged the Nord Stream 2 pipeline in 2022 and accuses Russia of causing the explosions, following Germany issuing its first arrest warrant on the case towards a Ukrainian man. (Reuters) New Zealand extradites German hacker and Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom to the United States to face charges for computer fraud, cyber espionage, and embezzlement. (DW) Croatian Defence Minister Ivan Anušić announces that the country will reintroduce a compulsory 2-month military service starting from January 1, 2025, as part of it's reform of the Armed Forces of Croatia. Conscription was previously scrapped in 2008 when Croatia shifted to a volunteer-based system. (The Independent) Politics and elections 2024 United States presidential election 2024 United States presidential debates The Democratic Party candidate for vice president Tim Walz and the Republican Party candidate for vice president JD Vance agree to a debate on October 1 on CBS. (Reuters) 2024 Venezuelan presidential election International reactions to the 2024 Venezuelan presidential election Brazilian President Lula da Silva, Colombian President Gustavo Petro, and US President Joe Biden call for new elections in Venezuela. (Reuters) 2024 Sri Lankan presidential election Sri Lanka receives a record number of presidential candidates for the upcoming election with 39 applications accepted, surpassing 2019's record of 35 candidates. (Al Jazeera) Sports 2024 CFL season The Edmonton Elks of the Canadian Football League are sold to businessman Larry Thompson, ending 75 years of community ownership. (Edmonton Journal)

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(Posted) RD: Charis Eng

Article: Charis Eng (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): PTEN Research, Cleveland Plain Dealer
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Spencer (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Spencer^T•C 00:54, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Support article seems alright to me. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 14:47, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Missing any prose on death.—Bagumba (talk) 14:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

@Bagumba: Added. Spencer^T•C 18:45, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 06:48, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Jack Russell (musician)

Article: Jack Russell (musician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Billboard, NPR
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:5994:D657:3789:8602 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by UndergroundMan3000 (talk · give credit) and SirZPthundergod9001 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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American musician and founding member of Great White. 240F:7A:6253:1:5994:D657:3789:8602 (talk) 13:05, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose for the number of unsourced statements. ForsythiaJo (talk) 21:30, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose a large number of unsourced information. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 14:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Added an orange tag for the lack of citations in the prose. Please fix! Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 23:48, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Chicxulub impactor originated from the outer Solar System

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Chicxulub crater (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Chicxulub impactor originated from the outer Solar System (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Chicxulub asteroid has been found to be a carbonaceous asteroid which formed in the outer Solar System
News source(s): Science, [31]
Credits:

• Nominated by Count Iblis (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Count Iblis (talk) 10:46, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose and close: what even is the meaning of this? Tofusaurus (talk) 11:25, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

  It means that the Chicxulub asteroid was found to be from the outer Solar System, rather than the inner Solar System. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 12:05, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

  I think the question is "what is the significance of this?". It's a cool discovery that this asteroid came from so far away (though I always assumed the majority of massive impactors came from the [[Outer Solar System]]), but I'm not sure it's ITN material. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 12:50, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose In contrast with the water on Mars story, this has extremely little impact on science going forward, its more a "that answers that question". Also, remember that we need to have coverage in the news, which is there for this but I've added that. We can't just go on published papers only. --Masem (t) 13:42, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose As per Masem, this will not have a significant impact on future science. Gödel2200 (talk) 15:03, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Maybe not a world-changing event, but scientific discoveries are often valuable by themselves, and it changes a bit from the cycle of politics and disasters usually on ITN. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 15:19, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The fact that the Chicxulub impactor was of carbonaceous chondrite-type has been known for many years (see this paper from 2021 for example [32]), and while the analytical techniques employed in this this paper are interesting, their claim this is some kind of new revelation is just PR hype. Hemiauchenia (talk) 16:30, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Hemiauchenia. More broadly, the origin of asteroid impactors is not particularly significant to astronomy. Better for models of an impact and its effects, perhaps, but certainly not ITN material. ArkHyena (talk) 16:56, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Peter Marshall

Article: Peter Marshall (entertainer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

• Nominated by Mooonswimmer (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

A few citations needed, but well-sourced overall. Mooonswimmer 18:34, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Fixed the citations needed. Article now fully sourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:11, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 01:36, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Greg Kihn

Article: Greg Kihn (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): KRON 4
Credits:

• Nominated by TheCorriynial (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Article does need some help in a few places, but for many in the early 80s, Greg Kihn was the leader of The Greg Kihn Band and songwriter for the band, which had hits "Jeopardy (song)", "The Breakup Song" and several other in the early 80s. Weird Al covered "Jeopardy" as "I Lost on Jeopardy", where many know that song from. He also did some writing. TheCorriynial (talk) 16:56, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support. They don't write 'em like that any more. Newyorkbrad (talk) 23:37, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Some cn tags, an unsourced section and another section with only one source. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:54, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
• Not ready yet. There are still nine citation needed tags. Flibirigit (talk) 11:32, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per usual. Aydoh8^[contribs] 12:37, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose multiple cn tags and many paragraphs ending without a footnote. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 14:51, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Lasse Björn

Article: Lasse Björn (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.svt.se/sport/ishockey/lasse-bjorn-ar-dod-blev-92-ar
Credits:

• Nominated by Flibirigit (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Marbe166 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Olympic ice hockey and Ice Hockey World Championship medallist. Article is a bit short and could be expanded, but everything is cited. Flibirigit (talk) 14:56, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support. Looks good. TwistedAxe [contact] 21:37, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Article is well sourced, but I feel that the career section is a bit short, making the article borderline stubbish. Wondering what others think. Support Article has been expanded a bit. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:58, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

• I've done a bit of expansion. Anyone else is welcome to help. Flibirigit (talk) 14:24, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
• Updated article title as per page move. His common name is "Lasse Björn". Flibirigit (talk) 17:37, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 01:38, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

National Public Data breach

Article: National Public Data (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Data brokering service National Public Data suffers a breach of 2.7 billion records, potentially including the Social Security numbers of every living American. (Post)
News source(s): (CBS News)
Credits:

• Nominated by GeorgeMemulous (talk · give credit)
• Created by Noleander (talk · give credit)

Data breach potentially containing the Social Security number of every living American. Breach occurred last April, but now a lawsuit's being filed and it's receiving widespread coverage. Article needs work. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 14:18, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose If the breach occurred last April, it is too stale to be presented as news in ITN, and the lawsuit isn't that newsworthy if the breach itself went under the radar at first. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:20, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Article is not nearly ready, and the item is stale to begin with. Estreyeria (talk) 14:27, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose and close immediately — Troy Hunt has written a post about this data breach. The data present has not been confirmed for accuracy and is unlikely to be. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 14:28, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose besides the stake Ness and quality issues, data breaches are far too common nowadays to make this anything but routine. Also, importantly, this us only a claim from the lawsuit, nothing has been affirmed here. The signs are likely that it's true but we have no confirmation yet. Masem (t) 14:29, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment The agency has confirmed the breech but keep in mind, this is 2.9 billion records which is not yet known how many people that actually is, since there can be multiple records per person. Further, the article itself is still far too short for quality purposes. --Masem (t) 11:51, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Comment - precedent has shown that stories that technically occurred a while back can still be posted if it only entered into the news discourse recently. Anyway, weak oppose, per ElijahPepe. — Knightoftheswords 14:42, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose As per above, the breach is a claim from a lawsuit, and does not seem to be definitively confirmed. Gödel2200 (talk) 18:43, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support if confirmed. This is a *huge* data breach, and its purported occurrence only recently came to light, assuming the charges made in the lawsuit are correct. Kurtis ^(talk) 00:36, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose notability since not confirmed Iff it's confirmed, take this to be a support on notability. Sure, large data breaches are common, but so are national elections, sports championships, and any of a half-dozen other things listed at ITNR. That shouldn't preclude something from being posted. The impact would be wide-reaching, and thus worth posting. For now, though, the accuracy is not certain nor the source. And don't even get me started on the article quality. Sincerely, Dilettante 03:27, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Comment The breach has been confirmed by National Public Data. The leaked information is confirmed to include "name, email address, phone number, social security number, and mailing address(es)", but the scale of the breach (i.e. the figure of 2.7-2.9 billion) has not yet been specified or acknowledged. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 14:35, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment The article is a stub and as long as it stays like that, it could not possibly be posted. Schwede66 08:30, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability, once the article is properly expanded. A major event, and it is in the news now. Nsk92 (talk) 14:37, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Aricle size currently at 1400 B (223 words) readable prose.—Bagumba (talk) 10:04, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - doesn't even mention which nation! Nfitz (talk) 22:10, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

August 14

Portal:Current events/2024 August 14

August 14, 2024 (2024-08-14) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine 2024 Kursk offensive Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says that Ukrainian forces have captured more than 100 Russian soldiers in the last 24 hours during their offensive in Kursk Oblast. Zelenskyy also says that he is open to exchanging the prisoners for Ukrainian prisoners of war. (BBC News) Ukraine announces that it will create a strategic buffer zone on the Russia–Ukraine border that is "designed to protect our border communities from daily enemy attacks". (Reuters) Russia evacuates thousands more civilians from borderlands in the Kursk Oblast amid deeper progression of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into the region. (Reuters) Ukrainian drones strike the Borisoglebsk air base in Voronezh Oblast, Russia, destroying several hangars. (Pravda) (The Washington Post) Israel–Hamas war Three-phase Israel–Hamas war ceasefire proposal Top Hamas official Osama Hamdan states that the organization is "losing faith" in the United States' role as mediator in Israel–Hamas ceasefire proposals due to the U.S. not applying pressure on Israel to act in good faith, and threatens to withdraw from future U.S.-mediated negotiations. (AP) Libyan crisis (2011–present) Libya's House of Representatives vote to end the term of the Tripoli-based government led by Abdul Hamid Dbeibeh, declaring the eastern-based cabinet as the legitimate government. (Anadolu Agency) Disasters and accidents 2024 Atlantic hurricane season Tropical Storm Ernesto strengthens into a hurricane north of Puerto Rico. (NBC News) Health and environment African mpox epidemic The World Health Organization officially declares a new outbreak of mpox. The strain of this outbreak is different from the primary strain of the 2022–2023 mpox outbreak, which affected thirteen countries and resulted in at least 524 reported deaths, and the new strain is more lethal. (AP) Law and crime 2022 Nord Stream pipeline sabotage Germany issues its first arrest warrant related to the 2022 Nord Stream pipeline sabotage for a Ukrainian man who crossed the border from Poland into Ukraine before the arrest could be carried out. (AP) Illegal drug trade in the United States The United States Drug Enforcement Administration announces that it seized more than 2,300 lb (1,000 kg) of methamphetamines hidden in celery at a farmers market in Forest Park, Georgia, United States. A Mexican citizen was arrested in relation to the seizure. (AP) Organized crime in Sweden Sweden, Denmark, Norway, and Finland form an international police hub in Stockholm to prevent escalating Swedish gang activity and criminal networks from spreading to other Nordic countries. (Reuters) The Constitutional Court of Thailand dismisses Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin for illegally appointing a minister to his cabinet. (Reuters) Former President of Argentina Alberto Fernández is indicted on charges of making threats and causing bodily harm to former first lady Fabiola Yáñez. (Buenos Aires Herald) (Washington Post) Politics and elections 2024 Kiribati parliamentary election Kiribati citizens vote for the 45 members of the parliament. (AP) 2024 Liberal Democratic Party (Japan) presidential election Japan's Prime Minister and president of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party Fumio Kishida announces that he will not run in the party’s presidential election scheduled for late September, effectively stepping down from the premiership. (The Japan News) After more than a year of high-level investigation, the Vatican expels Luis Fernando Figari, the leader of the Peruvian society of apostolic life Sodalitium Christianae Vitae, for financial corruption and for downplaying allegations of sexual and psychological abuse. (AP)

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RD: Gena Rowlands

Article: Gena Rowlands (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Wrap
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Award winning American actress. Thriley (talk) 00:48, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality the entire filmography is currently unsourced. Estreyeria (talk) 14:29, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
• Not ready yet. Filmography section has no sources, and the awards section has only one source. Flibirigit (talk) 16:56, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
• Regrettable oppose Filmography and awards section needs ref work. There's a few cn tags in the career section as well. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:56, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Raising at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red. Curbon7 (talk) 00:24, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose outstanding number of cn tags. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 14:57, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) WHO declares global health emergency over Mpox outbreak

Article: African mpox epidemic (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The World Health Organization declares the 2024 African mpox epidemic to be a global health emergency. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The World Health Organization declares the African mpox epidemic to be a global health emergency.
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Twistedaxe (talk · give credit)

Last time it was declared an emergency, it killed around 200 people. It seems to be alot more serious now, as death count has already risen to well above 500. TwistedAxe [contact] 17:53, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Wait there is no way that stub of an article is ready for an ITN item. Scu ba (talk) 18:48, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Comment - Literally one sentence, unfit for posting. Also, did we post monkeypox being designated as a global health emergency back in 2022? PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:54, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. Article is nowhere near ready for the main page. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 20:31, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose because the article needs expansion and more sources. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 03:22, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment — I expected that the WHO would declare the epidemic a global health emergency, but I have been tied up in the weeds of determining if this is a continuation of the epidemic two years ago, especially given the title change. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 21:02, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support The nominated article is mpox which is not a stub. The disease is endemic and has a long history but the latest announcement is a clear wakeup call to take this outbreak seriously. WHO is not helping matters by nerfing the name to the innocuous sounding mpox but what makes me sit up and take notice is that it is closely related to smallpox which was a global scourge. We do remember the recent global pandemic, right? That was given top billing at ITN for ages and so such topics are quite significant. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:10, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

  The specific threat is the African epidemic, as mpox has been around and waned and waxed for decades. That should be featured. Masem (t) 21:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

  Noting the existence of the other article 2024 mpox outbreak that appears to nearly completely overlap with it, but is much more developed. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:11, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

  The nominated article is now African mpox epidemic and has a banner calling for a title change. These new article(s) don't seem stable and I reckon that the main mpox article is best for this topic, as it has all the background. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:52, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, I was the one who requested the merge and the title change. Since the two articles have been merged, I don't see why stability would be an issue. The link in the blurb can be updated if the page is moved. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:15, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

  Comment - This epidemic primarily concerns Africa. Reported cases in the rest of the world have been steadily decreasing. This is not to throw Africa "under the bus" but Africa has certain conditions like: poor access to healthcare. The endemism of mpox in Africa. Which makes the epidemic noteworthy IN Africa as it is recurring.

  In the global perspective (non-endemic) the disease is spread through "mainly men who have sex with men and spread

  predominantly through sexual contact" rated moderate risk. Hardly pandemic material, yet... could change. Mikal N (talk) 22:33, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

  Incorrect - the 2022-2023 Clade II epidemic was spread mainly by sexual transmission. This is Clade I which seems to be more versatile and therefore more worrying. https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/how-scientists-are-racing-understand-new-mpox-strain-democratic-republic-congo Bob (talk) 19:08, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support. Mpox is gradually becoming more similar to smallpox. Count Iblis (talk) 23:22, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Support A big announcement, but the actual Mpox Outbreak page should be linked somewhere within the blurb itself Hungry403 (talk) 23:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Major development in public health. -TenorTwelve (talk) 03:10, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: Target article should be African mpox epidemic which is in need of expansion/quality improvement. Spencer^T•C 11:23, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support. I went ahead and changed the target article from mpox to African mpox epidemic and added a link to public health emergency of international concern in the blurbs. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 12:21, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Altblurb with the changes to the target page. Schwinnspeed (talk) 14:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support altblurb: It is starting to gain extensive coverage and significance. At the time of writing, Sweden has just reported its first case. Tofusaurus (talk) 17:10, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Qualified support. The article is relevant but quality is poor. The timeline is confusing. It's my bedtime otherwise I would contribute. Bob (talk) 19:50, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article quality now seems improved and this is highly notable. Flip^andFlopped ツ 20:08, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support—A global health emergency is a pretty major development. Here's hoping it doesn't balloon into something too much worse than it currently is. Kurtis ^(talk) 22:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted – Schwede66 23:14, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Dismissal of Thai PM

Thavisin in 2023

Article: Srettha Thavisin (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Thailand's Constitutional Court dismisses Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin following an illegal cabinet appointment of a minister. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Tofusaurus (talk · give credit)

Tofusaurus (talk) 08:51, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

• Maybe The event demonstrates that the PM is perhaps not the most powerful person in the government. CNN indicates that real power is held by "a small but powerful clique of military, royalist and business elites" which presumably means people like Thaksin Shinawatra. Anyway, this seems to be a trumped-up charge or show trial which we shouldn't endorse so directly. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:30, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

  Thailand is in a bit of a flux atm as a flawed democracy; the primary opposition repeatedly gets banned but reforms as a different party. The current government with PT-Military is essentially PT submitting to the elements of the military, such as Prayut Chan-o-cha. River10000 (talk) 12:22, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

  Srettha & Thaksin are allies. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 22:00, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support. Don't be mistaken, the removal of Thavisin is a great example of Court overreach in politics. This is the active removal of a head of government. River10000 (talk) 12:17, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Presumably if the president of the United States was dismissed by a court in that country, then it would be an ITN item. I don't see how this is any different, apart from the fact it relates to a different country. Chrisclear (talk) 13:57, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability. However, I would think that this event might reasonably have a standalone article, and I would prefer to link to such an article should on be made. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 14:30, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support as ITN/R - change of head of government. Natg 19 (talk) 16:12, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

  It becomes ITNR once his successor is known, but surely removal of head of government is notable in its own right if a successor is not chosen quickly. rawmustard (talk) 20:02, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Support The event is notable, and the article is well-sourced and of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 17:33, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Support a head of government got removed from office. This is notable enough for inclusion. Scu ba (talk) 18:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support because it's a change in head of government.

JohnAdams1800 (talk) 18:56, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Support The removal of Thailand’s PM is quite notable & the article’s quality is good enough to post. However, I’m not entirely satisfied w/the blurb’s wording since this seems to be politically motivated & the blurb’s wording doesn’t make that clear enough. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 19:40, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

I was going to say this. Maybe add an allegedly? The CC is very obviously biased towards the conservative, royal elite. River10000 (talk) 20:17, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

That might work. However, reliable sources link this ruling to a ruling that happened 1 week ago that banned MFP politicians from politics, so it might be better to have an alt blurb that says:

Thailand's Constitutional Court dismisses Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin one week after a ruling dissolved the Move Forward Party and banned its executives from politics.

Blaylockjam10 (talk) 22:15, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Or maybe a

Thailand's Constitutional Court removes Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, alleging illegal appointment of a cabinet member. River10000 (talk) 00:02, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

... reliable sources link this ruling to a ruling that happened 1 week ago ...: They are mentioned together in some sources, but do any of them say that the MFP being dissolved caused the PM's dismissal? —Bagumba (talk) 03:28, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

It's a slippery slope if we start using "allegedly" for court rulings. The ruling and their reasoning are fact, even if one argues its flawed (or if its eventually overturned or generally decried). —Bagumba (talk) 03:25, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability, removal of an active head of government by a court is very much notable. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:06, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 03:14, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment While the picture is good, the fact that the leader is standing in front of another country's national flag might be confusing for a reader looking at ITN at a glance. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 06:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

  Switched image to File:Srettha Thavisin at Pheu Thai Party headquarters,Bangkok, 7 September 2023.jpg from his bio's lead (hopefully there's not a major issue w/ him smiling more).—Bagumba (talk) 12:06, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

August 13

Portal:Current events/2024 August 13

August 13, 2024 (2024-08-13) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine 2024 Kursk offensive Ukraine says that its troops are still advancing in Kursk Oblast and now control 74 settlements inside Russia. The Russian Defence Ministry says that its forces are fighting the Ukrainians about 28 km (17 mi) from the border. (Reuters) Akhmat special forces commander Apti Alaudinov says that the Ukrainian advance into Kursk Oblast is currently stopped due to Russian counter-attacks. (Reuters) Israel–Hamas war United States support for Israel in the Israel–Hamas war The United States government approves $20 billion in weapon sales to Israel, including fifty F-15 fighter jets and advanced upgrade kits for Israel's existing F-15 jets. (AP) 2024 Iran–Israel conflict, Israel–Hezbollah conflict Two Hezbollah militants, three Lebanese civilians killed, 21 injured in Israeli airstrikes on Hezbollah targets in Baraachit, Tyre, Aabbassiyeh, Kfarkela, At Tiri and Marjayoun in southern Lebanon. Hezbollah launches rockets at Kfarchouba, Shebaa Farms, Shtula, Kiryat Shmona and Beit Hillel. (Al Jazeera) Israeli–Palestinian conflict Israeli crowds led by far-right security minister Itamar Ben-Gvir storm the Al-Aqsa Mosque and several villages in the West Bank on Tisha B'av. Israel Police officers reportedly offered protection to Israeli settlers, while the United States and the United Nations denounce the raids. (Al Jazeera) Yemeni civil war The Houthis storm the headquarters of the United Nation's Human Rights Office in Sanaa, Yemen, and detain Yemeni workers, and seize official documents. (The New Arab) (AP) Disasters and accidents 2024 Atlantic hurricane season Schools are canceled in Puerto Rico as Tropical Storm Ernesto is expected to strengthen into a hurricane overnight. (USA Today) 2024 Attica wildfires At least one person is killed and dozens of others are injured in wildfires across Greece, with evacuations ordered for residents in at least one area near Athens. (CNN) (DW) 2024 Kiteezi landslide The death toll for the landslide in the Kiteezi Rubbish Dump in Kampala, Uganda, increases to 24. (DW) 2024 Sudan floods At least 68 people are killed in Sudan's worst flooding since 2019, impacting several internally displaced person camps amid the ongoing Sudanese civil war. (Reuters) Law and crime Human rights in Austria, 2024 Vienna terrorism plot Austrian Chancellor Karl Nehammer announces a package of new anti-terrorism measures, including granting Austrian security services the ability to monitor private communications sent on messaging and social media apps and decrypt encrypted messages, and restricting the right to assembly of groups declared "hostile to democracy". (Reuters) Politics and elections 2024 Kolkata rape and murder incident Thousands of doctors and university students participate in walkouts and protests against sexual violence in cities across India after the alleged rape and murder of a female medical trainee in Kolkata last week. (DW) Science and technology Ford and Mazda issue warnings to owners of over 475,000 vehicles with Takata airbag inflators, cautioning them of the possibility for the inflators to explode with metal shrapnel. (AP)

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(Posted) RD: Dan Dorazio

Article: Dan Dorazio (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Dignity Memorial, SI, MooseJawToday
Credits:

• Nominated by BeanieFan11 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Cmm3 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:15, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Support article looks in a good shape to me. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 14:58, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 22:05, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Wally Amos

Article: Wally Amos (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
• Updated by GA-RT-22 (talk · give credit)

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Founder of Famous Amos cookie company. Host of the PBS television show Learn to Read. Thriley (talk) 19:29, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

• Unreferenced date of birth. Schwede66 23:43, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Citation issues appear to have been fixed. Thriley (talk) 10:38, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support No major quality issues to note. Article appears to be fine for RD. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 20:01, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Where exactly does reference 1 confirm his date of birth? I cannot see it. Schwede66 23:47, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

  I have switched to a later version of the same REF there, but archived earlier today. The previous version (archived on the 14th) did not have the DoB and ended with "A fully obituary will follow." The DoB is there now. --PFHLai (talk) 19:08, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Support nothing major holding the article back. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 14:59, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 19:33, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Richard Alatorre

Article: Richard Alatorre (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Los Angeles Times
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:B9C1:EAA6:9B64:55C7 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by OCNative (talk · give credit), Hirolovesswords (talk · give credit) and Fakescientist8000 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Former Los Angeles councilman. 240F:7A:6253:1:B9C1:EAA6:9B64:55C7 (talk)

• Unreferenced date of birth, and place of birth. Schwede66 23:41, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
• Previously mentioned reference issues have been patched. @Schwede66:, I do recommend taking a second look at this article, as I support it as being ready for RD. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 20:05, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

  I note two things: the citation needed tag within the article remains, and I cannot see where the source you added confirms that he was born on May 15. Schwede66 23:44, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

• Almost ready just a couple to issue with Personal life and death section needs to be resolved. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{ਗੱਲਬਾਤ} 15:00, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support The article has enough details & references now. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 23:23, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

August 12

Portal:Current events/2024 August 12

August 12, 2024 (2024-08-12) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine 2024 Kursk offensive Acting Governor of Kursk Oblast Alexei Smirnov accuses the Ukrainian military of using chemical weapons that poisoned Russian civilians. Ukraine's State Security Service denies these claims and accuses Russia of falsifying war crimes. (Newsweek) (Reuters) Ukrainian colonel general Oleksandr Syrskyi announces that Ukrainian forces now control over 1,000 km2 (386 sq mi) of Russia's Kursk region. (AP) Eastern Ukraine campaign Russian forces take the settlement of Lysychne in Donetsk Oblast. (Reuters) 2024 Iran–Israel conflict, Israel–Hezbollah conflict Assassination of Ismail Haniyeh United States Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin orders the USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier strike group and the USS Georgia SSGN cruise-missile submarine to the Middle East to defend Israel from possible retaliation from Iran and to strengthen the U.S. military position in the region. (Al Jazeera) Hezbollah fires 30 Katyusha rockets targeting the IDF 146th Division headquarters in Ga'aton and an IDF surveillance station in Metula. An Israeli Iron Dome interceptor missile destroys an Avdon residence. (Al Jazeera) Israel–Hamas war Third Battle of Khan Yunis Ten Palestinians are killed in an Israeli airstrike on a residential home in Khan Younis in the Gaza Strip. (Anadolu Ajansı) Arts and culture Damage of landmarks from climate change The Double Arch, a natural arch made of 190 million-year-old rock in the Glen Canyon National Recreation Area, collapses, possibly due to changing water levels and erosion. (NPR) Business and economy Chevron Corporation delivers the first oil from a Gulf of Mexico oil field, drilled under extreme subsea pressure. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents One person is killed and several others are injured when a helicopter stolen from Cairns Airport crashes into a hotel in Cairns, Queensland, Australia. (The Guardian) One person is killed and 132 others are injured after a magnitude 5.0 earthquake strikes Salamiyah, Homs Governorate, Syria. (Maspero) (Enab Baladi) Law and crime United States support for Israel in the Israel–Hamas war The Council on American–Islamic Relations files a lawsuit against the United States government and the FBI over alleged anti-Palestinian discrimination against two Palestinian Americans for placing them on a watch list despite having no violent crime convictions. (Reuters) Pakistan Army officials arrest former Director-General of the Inter-Services Intelligence Faiz Hameed, accusing him of abusing his position of power and raiding a business last year. (DW) A teenager stabs five people at a mosque in Eskişehir, Turkey. (CBS News) Politics and elections 2024 United States presidential election, Twitter under Elon Musk Former president and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump comes back to X (formerly Twitter) for a two-hour interview with its owner Elon Musk, mainly focusing on Trump's 2024 presidential re-election campaign. (Reuters). Special Region of Jakarta Act The first Cabinet of Indonesia meeting session in Nusantara is held, marking the beginning of the transition of the official capital away from Jakarta. (Detik) Iranian Vice President Mohammad Javad Zarif resigns after 11 days in office, citing disappointment with his progress and the new Cabinet. (DW) Science and technology Water on Mars Liquid water is confirmed to be present at depths of 10–20 km (6.2–12.4 mi) below the surface of Mars, based on a new analysis of data from NASA's InSight lander. (BBC News)

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(Posted) RD: Christof Nel

Article: Christof Nel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NDR
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
• Created by LouisAlain (talk · give credit)

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Stage director of drama and especially opera at major houses in Germany, influential teacher in his last years. - Another article remembered from DYK 2019, but many refs needed to be replaced. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:25, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Support looks well-cited and ready to go. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 15:41, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

• Unreferenced date of birth and place of birth. Schwede66 02:44, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

  Fixed. (Sorry, when I inserted the ref for his parents, I forgot to repeat the one good for the whole section for DOB and POB.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:56, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Good quality. Greetings to User:LouisAlain. Grimes2 (talk) 07:03, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 07:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Timothy Dudley-Smith

Article: Timothy Dudley-Smith (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Christianity Today BBC
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by HistoryTheorist (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Mohamad Darilin (talk · give credit) and Normantas Bataitis (talk · give credit)

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Article is short but in good shape. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 22:40, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Support if the selected works can serve as citations for themselves. Bremps... 06:21, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

I'll try to find ISBNs tonight. Thanks for pointing it out! ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 17:11, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

@Bremps  Done all isbns added. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 00:34, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Reservations gone, support. Bremps... 00:55, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 12:02, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Liquid water on Mars

Article: Water on Mars (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Analysis of data from the InSight Mars mission indicates the presence of underground liquid water on Mars. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, PNAS
Credits:

• Nominated by GeorgeMemulous (talk · give credit)

Article needs to be updated (currently only a one line update exists) but the topic is receiving significant news coverage. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 01:23, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support once the article has been sufficiently expanded. Important milestone. Yakikaki (talk) 07:37, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
• Needs work The article currently starts "Almost all water on Mars today exists as polar permafrost ice..." and continues in that vein. If this new analysis indicates that there are substantial underground seas of liquid water then the article will need completely rebalancing to account for this. An isolated update is not enough. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:48, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
• Opppose on quality concerns, the lead needs a lot of work, I had to search the article to find the story here. Also, possible sustained oppose because it appears this was known in 2018 from the Mars Express mission. Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:56, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Given the chronology of discoveries of water on Mars dating back to the 1970s, what makes this discovery of water on Mars different? If that difference is significant, it should be in the blurb. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 15:37, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

  Money pull quote from the Beeb article: While there is water frozen at the Martian poles and evidence of vapour in the atmosphere, this is the first time liquid water has been found on the planet. I agree quite a bit that "science news" often does a poor job of immediately telling people the most important thing(s) up front: "don't bury the lede" is a tenet of good journalism. (One contributing factor: the people writing and editing the coverage, often have little to no expert scientific background, and often struggle to understand themselves the things they are attempting to tell people about, which often are communicated in the house jargon of scientific journals etc. Sure, you could contact professional scientists to seek explanation (who mostly have day jobs and do such things, when they do, as an unpaid volunteer service on top of that) but, there's that deadline and your boss has been breathing down your neck lately to get those viewership metrics up. Gotta get those social media "shares" before competitors beat you.) Blurb suggestion: Analysis… indicates the presence on Mars of underground liquid water. --Slowking Man (talk) 20:18, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

• Agree in principle if a main target can be improved. Maybe InSight? This is evidence of present-day liquid water underground in the Martian crust. Existence of (lots of) liquid water long ago in Mars's past has been accepted for some time, and solid water ice and gaseous water vapor are known to exist, but liquid water at Mars's surface beyond tiny transient amounts is presumed impossible today because of Mars's low atmospheric pressure. (See phase diagram. Familiar with how a pressure cooker works? Now think about how freeze drying works—which is accomplished by going the other direction and lowering ambient pressure to near-zero.) Scientists have been interested in answers to what happened to all that water. And it looks like at least some is still there deep underground, where it's under enough pressure to stay liquid. --Slowking Man (talk) 20:18, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
• Opppose Call me when you can fill a glass. None of this "traces of" or long-ago stuff. CoatCheck (talk) 00:22, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

  Support Ring ring. It's here right now and there's a lot of it. Bremps... 03:31, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

  From that CNN article: "Banerdt, who was not involved in the research, said that while the interpretation of the data presented in the paper is strongly supported with good arguments, he also believes it is still somewhat speculative and that there is almost always another way to explain any given set of data.", a far cry short of these "scientists have found ___" pronouncements. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 03:49, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. This is a single paper, and the BBC article makes claims that the scientific paper does not -- BBC: "Scientists have discovered a reservoir of liquid water on Mars - deep in the rocky outer crust of the planet. -- paper: "A mid-crust composed of fractured igneous rocks saturated with liquid water best explains the existing data." This is fairly irresponsible journalism. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 03:45, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
• Weak oppose per 35.139.154.158. This is still a pretty tentative discovery. Additionally, it isn't even the first potential detection of large reservoirs of liquid water on Mars—see Subglacial lakes on Mars. I am only marking this as a weak oppose as this is an in situ detection from the InSight lander, which may be ITN-worthy; I would personally say it still isn't. ArkHyena (talk) 04:06, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per 35.139.154.158. I'd totally support putting this on the front page if it was a more substantiated claim (and if the article was in shape, which it's not). Estreyeria (talk) 13:20, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose a problem for astronomy is that standard news outlet aimed for the general public just love to jump to conclusions. Fact is, the lander found some data, and someone wrote a paper saying that underground water may be an explanation for that data. There's still a huge distance from that to actually confirming such water. Scientists should formulate alternative explanations for the data, and all explanations should be tested further (or get updated if further data is obtained). Cambalachero (talk) 16:00, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose A few things: 1) the article itself is mostly about the historical context behind the present lack of water on mars- there is one sentence about the current update buried deep in the lead 2) The media's interpretation of the scientific paper is a stretch and still a little speculative. Schwinnspeed (talk) 14:54, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Rachael Lillis

Article: Rachael Lillis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes, Anime News Network
Credits:

• Nominated by Tofusaurus (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Blaylockjam10 (talk · give credit)

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Voice actress, known for voicing the English voices of Misty and Jessie from Pokemon. Died on August 10 but was only reported on this date. Tofusaurus (talk) 16:45, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

• Opppose Not enough substance. Estreyeria (talk) 19:11, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
• Picture Looks fine and there's plenty of coverage in mainstream sources such as the BBC. We have a good picture and so should use it to replace the aircraft picture which has been used for several days now. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
• Currently there's a citation-needed and several uncited roles. I hope these can be cleaned up so that this can be RD'd. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 13:02, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Too little words/prose in the article for this to be on RD. Much of the length of the article consists of tables upon tables. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 20:11, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
• To stubby with only 198 words of prose. Need to expand, but time is running out. --PFHLai (talk) 21:47, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

@PFHLai: I expanded the article. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 23:34, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, @Blaylockjam10, for expanding the stubby wikibio to start-class. However, there are still quite a few roles listed in the filmography table that need sourcing. And there are zero support !votes here on ITN/C for this nom. I can check back in a few hours.... --PFHLai (talk) 02:13, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Richard Lugner

Article: Richard Lugner (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Euronews, Barron's, Der Spiegel, Berliner Morgenpost, Tagesschau
Credits:

• Nominated by Celjski Grad (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ruedi B (talk · give credit)

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Austrian construction titan, politician, and Viennese society figure. Celjski Grad (talk) 13:56, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support. Article structure seems okay to me. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 14:14, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
• Currently orange-tagged for having a {lead too short}. --PFHLai (talk) 23:57, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
  • There are also a number of {cn} tags in the table in the Vienna Opera Ball section. --PFHLai (talk) 21:46, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

August 11

Portal:Current events/2024 August 11

August 11, 2024 (2024-08-11) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Islamic State–Taliban conflict 2024 Kabul bus bombing At least one person is killed and eleven others are injured in an Islamic State minibus bombing in Dasht-e-Barchi, Kabul, Afghanistan. (DW) Russian invasion of Ukraine Kyiv strikes Two people, including a 4-year-old child, are killed and three others are injured in a Russian KN-23 ballistic missile attack in Kyiv, Ukraine. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2024 Kiteezi landslide The death toll from a landslide at the Kiteezi Rubbish Dump in Kampala, Uganda, increases to 21. (Reuters) Two people are killed and twelve families are displaced in an explosion possibly attributed to a gas leak in Bel Air, Maryland, United States. (AP) International relations Iran–European Union relations In a phone call with European Council President Charles Michel, Iranian president Masoud Pezeshkian accuses the European Union of facilitating Israeli crimes against humanity and terrorism in the Gaza Strip by implementing double standards that destabilize the Middle East and increase the chances of a global war. (Al Jazeera) Politics and elections 2024 Rwandan general election Incumbent president Paul Kagame is sworn in for a fourth term in office. (Reuters) Sports 2024 Summer Olympics The 2024 Summer Olympics conclude with the closing ceremony taking place at the Stade de France in Paris, France. (BBC News) The United States finish atop the medal table with 40 gold medals and 126 total medals, ahead of China who finished with 40 gold medals and 91 total medals, with silver medals being the tiebreaker. (BBC News)

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RD: Daniela Larreal

Article: Daniela Larreal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Diario Las Américas
Credits:

• Nominated by NoonIcarus (talk · give credit)

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Venezuelan track cyclist NoonIcarus (talk) 21:14, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Not enough prose to warrant being on RD. Changes must be added to the total word count, as it currently consists of one or two paragraphs of writing. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 22:00, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Elizabeth A. R. Brown

Article: Elizabeth A. R. Brown (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Legacy.com
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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American medievalist. Thriley (talk) 22:08, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

• Not Ready. Article needs expansion as it is still a stub. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 09:50, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
• Only 227 words of prose. Anymore to write about her, please? --PFHLai (talk) 23:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Noël Treanor

Article: Noël Treanor (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, The Irish Times
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:2942:2E99:912C:AA25 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Normantas Bataitis (talk · give credit) and Rutsq (talk · give credit)

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Irish Roman Catholic prelate. 240F:7A:6253:1:2942:2E99:912C:AA25 (talk) 17:14, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Support Minor tone issues but honestly nothing to fuss about. Bremps... 02:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Posted—Bagumba (talk) 04:05, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Olympics

Article: 2024 Summer Olympics closing ceremony (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The 2024 Summer Olympics ends with the closing ceremony. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The 2024 Summer Olympics closes, with the United States winning the most medals.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The 2024 Summer Olympics conclude in Paris, France.
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Sportsnut24 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Starts in under 5.5 hours, but just thought to put it here for discussion so it can be live as it is ongoing.Sportsnut24 (talk) 13:33, 11 August 2024 (UTC) }}

• Oppose The article for the closing ceremony has major sourcing issues. When the ceremony happens, the article will also need expansion. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:38, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

I am just cleaning up the sourcing precisely for these objections. Only women's basketball left, but will find som more prose. Obviously in preparations since we can't know everything exactly.Sportsnut24 (talk) 13:50, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

I have just added some prose to the events itself. Few sentences should be the mimumum required.Sportsnut24 (talk) 14:00, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! The sections for foreign dignitaries and commentators being mostly uncited was one of the reasons the opening ceremony didn't get posted, so hopefully that will not also be the case here (as more gets added to the article). Gödel2200 (talk) 14:08, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

A few sentences of text followed by endless incomplete or improperly sourced lists is not enough to meet WP:ITNQUALITY and is a clear violation of MOS:PROSE. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:52, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

This is true, but the ceremony hasn't happened yet, so it is no surprise the article has not been expanded. Gödel2200 (talk) 16:51, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

How is the official source improper? There are several prose sentences of the event.Sportsnut24 (talk) 19:31, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Strong oppose altblurb the Olympics medal tally is measured by the number of gold medals, with silver and bronze only used in tie-breakers. It is technically correct to state that the US won the most medals, but the usage of this implies that the US 'won' the Olympics, which they didn't (China did) and might be a breach of NPOV. The prose issues brought up by @Joseph2302 (pinging for courtesy) look like they've been fixed, although article might need some more sources. In this case I'm leaning support. Also the closing ceremony just wrapped up, so pull from ongoing. Aydoh8^[contribs] 22:17, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Officially, isn't the rule if golds are tied, then most silver medals declares the "winner"? But, I don't think I've seen anything saying China "won." I've seen "tied" used, but nothing else outside of that. TheCorriynial (talk) 22:24, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

D'oh. Didn't realise they were tied on golds (I thought China was still ahead). Thank you for reminding me, I've just updated my vote. Aydoh8^[contribs] 22:31, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

• oppose altblurb When have we previously posted which country "won"? Seems a tie. 2607:9880:2D28:108:30F3:78D1:5BE5:F230 (talk) 22:59, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

silly to mention that nonsense. the NEWS is the closingSportsnut24 (talk) 23:57, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

• Remove the Olympics from the Ongoing events. It is Finished. 24.253.86.254 (talk) 01:45, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

It would seem to make sense that until we have a blurb up on the closing, keeping the ongoing for 24-48 hrs for ppl coming late to see the final results would be reasonable. But after 48hr, yes, its definitely should be removed. — Masem (t) 02:36, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

I agree, Support but remove after 48h PrecariousWorlds (talk) 05:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

It's been removed. Stephen 03:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose It makes more sense to just pull the Olympics from ongoing. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 06:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

The closing ceremony is listed in ITN/R so the only concern is the quality. Also, it's been pulled already. 82.193.210.78 (talk) 19:01, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose as the closing ceremony article is a sloppy mix of plans, predictions and actual outcomes. Just leave the Ongoing entry up for a day and then it's done. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Comment - the closing ceremony of the Summer Olympics (and their winter components for that matter) are WP:INTR per Wikipedia:In the news/Recurring items#Multi-sport events. If you have an issue with that, take it to the talk page, not here. — Knightoftheswords 13:07, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

I don't think anyone is opposed to the ITNR nature of this, but that the current article is of very low quality that pits not in a condition to post, which is a requirement ITNR or not. Masem (t) 18:30, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

@Andrew Davidson, MtPenguinMonster, and DecafPotato: would beg to differ — Knightoftheswords 12:28, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

The article currently seems to finish in mid-air with a half-baked section called "Victory Ceremony". It's puzzling... Andrew🐉(talk) 13:11, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

@Andrew Davidson: I've significantly expanded that section with a paragraph of prose. Do you think it would be good now? DecafPotato (talk) 19:50, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

I got the gist of it but it seemed to need copy-editing so I reworked it. It's still rather puzzling as there's a claim that this was "gender parity" but only the women got special attention. That's not what parity means. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:19, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

To clarify, the Paris Olympics were the first Olympics with gender parity (i.e. an equal number of male and female athletes), and so the organizing committee highlighted the women's marathon winner instead of the traditional men's marathon winner to celebrate how far women's sports have come. DecafPotato (talk) 08:15, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

The Tokyo Olympics had parity with both the men and women's winners featured in the closing ceremony. This time, they featured only women even though most of the men in the event ran faster than the winning woman (67 men ran faster than 2:22:55). That's gender bias not gender parity. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:07, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment – Why don't we just bold the Summer Olympics article instead of that of the closing ceremony? It's what most readers are looking for and is of a much higher quality. DecafPotato (talk) 19:55, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

  The main Summer Olympics article itself has already been 'featured' on ITN on the Ongoing events line for about two weeks. There would need some significant consensus to move that back to a blurb that could possibly last on ITN another week, given the amount of updates (or relative lack thereof) since it was removed from Ongoing. Zzyzx11 (talk) 13:22, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment I've re-opened the nomination for the following two reasons. Firstly, the opposition is mostly on quality grounds. Secondly, this isn't stale as the oldest blurb documents a story from 1 August 2024.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:31, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
• Not ready I've changed the headings to sentence case but someone else will have to provide referencing for the anthems. Schwede66 23:33, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

August 10

Portal:Current events/2024 August 10

August 10, 2024 (2024-08-10) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine 2024 Kursk offensive Russia introduces a "counter-terrorist regime" in Belgorod, Bryansk, and Kursk Oblasts in response to the ongoing incursion, resulting in travel restrictions and an increased security presence. (Novinite) (Ukrainska Pravda) The state-run Russian news agency TASS reports that over 76,000 residents have evacuated from Kursk Oblast this week. (DW) Ukrainian forces enter Belgorod Oblast for the first time during the ongoing incursion, reportedly capturing the village of Poroz. (Kyiv Independent) The Ukrainian Navy strikes and heavily damages a Russian offshore natural gas platform in the Black Sea being used by the Russian Armed Forces. (Reuters) Belarusian involvement in the Russian invasion of Ukraine President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko increases Belarus's defensive presence on the Belarus–Ukraine border after accusing Ukraine of illegally sending about a dozen intercepted drones across the border into Belarusian airspace. (RFE/RL) Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure One worker is killed and several others are injured in a Russian missile strike on a "critical infrastructure facility" in Kramatorsk. (Ukrainska Pravda) Israel–Hamas war Al-Tabaeen school attack Israeli rockets strike Al-Tabaeen school in Gaza City during Fajr morning prayers, killing more than 93 Palestinians and injuring 47 others, several of whom were trapped in the building as it was damaged by a fire. (Al Jazeera) (Times of Israel) Rohingya conflict Over seventy people are killed in an Arakan Army drone attack on Rohingya people fleeing Myanmar. (Reuters) Arts and culture Russian invasion of Ukraine Religion and the Russian invasion of Ukraine President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy announces governmental deliberations toward banning a traditionally Russia-linked branch of the Orthodox Church in Ukraine in order to strengthen the country's "spiritual independence". (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2024 Kiteezi landslide Eighteen people are killed and fourteen others are rescued after a landslide at Kiteezi Landfill, a rubbish dump in Kampala, Uganda. (Al Jazeera) Politics and elections 2024 Bangladesh quota reform movement Non-cooperation movement Chief Justice of Bangladesh Obaidul Hassan resigns following an ultimatum from protesters and is briefly succeeded by Md. Ashfaqul Islam on an acting basis. Syed Refat Ahmed is later appointed Chief Justice by President Mohammed Shahabuddin. (AP) (Dhaka Tribune) (Prothom Alo English) 2024 United States presidential election Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign Officials of the Donald Trump campaign report that it was hacked by anonymous sources, with the campaign formally blaming "foreign sources", specifically claiming that Iran was behind the hacking. (WNBC-TV) 2024 United Kingdom riots Thousands of anti-racism protesters march in cities across the United Kingdom to protest against far-right riots, political figures, and the Reform UK party. (DW) A petrol bomb is thrown towards an Islamic centre in Newtownards, County Down, Northern Ireland. (BBC) 2024 Serbian environmental protests Tens of thousands of environmentalist and anti-Aleksandar Vučić protesters demonstrate in Belgrade, Serbia, to protest a European Union–backed plan to develop Europe's largest lithium mine in the Jadar valley. (AP) Sports 2024 Summer Olympics Albania at the 2024 Summer Olympics Chermen Valiev wins a bronze medal in Men's freestyle 74 kg wrestling, earning Albania its first ever Olympic medal. (KOHA) Breaking at the 2024 Summer Olympics In the first-ever men's breakdancing event at the Olympics, Philip "Phil Wizard" Kim of Canada wins the B-Boys gold medal, with Danis "Dany Dann" Civil of France winning the silver and Victor Montalvo of the United States winning the bronze. (CBC News) Concerns and controversies at the 2024 Summer Olympics Three swimmers for Germany fall ill with vomiting and diarrhea and require outpatient treatment after swimming in the Seine as part of Olympic competitions. (AP) Japan at the 2024 Summer Olympics Rikuto Tamai of Japan wins a silver medal in Men's 10 metre platform diving, earning the country its first ever Olympic medal in the sport. (Reuters) Uzbekistan at the 2024 Summer Olympics Svetlana Osipova of Uzbekistan wins a silver medal in taekwondo the first ever Olympic medal obtained by a Uzbek female athlete in the sport. (Kun.uz)

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(Posted) RD: Celestina Casapietra

Article: Celestina Casapietra (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Berliner Zeitung
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
• Created by LouisAlain (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Italian soprano who was "married" to the Berlin State Opera from 1965 to 1993, leading roles, also in Europe. - I knew the article from DYK days in 2019, but it's better now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:41, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article quality is good, Berliner Zeitung is reliable. A prominent soprano in the GDR. Grimes2 (talk) 16:59, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 04:26, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Tuíre Kayapó

Article: Tuíre Kayapó (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Globo article, Tribute from government website
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by ForsythiaJo (talk · give credit)

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Brazilian indigenous activist and leader. ForsythiaJo (talk) 01:46, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Support Article quality is up to par. Bremps... 02:47, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Support what Bremps said --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:41, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Issue There is a source WP:INTEGRITY issue in the article, as the source next to her death does not cover her actual death. Also, the article says she died at 54, while a later citation from G1 says 57.[33] Her birth year might also need updating.—Bagumba (talk) 03:55, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

I've added a footnote about the uncertainty of her age at death/year of birth - thank you for bringing this discrepancy up! ForsythiaJo (talk) 18:06, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Support issue was addressed; article ready. Flip^andFlopped ツ 20:09, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted – Schwede66 23:28, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

August 9

Portal:Current events/2024 August 9

August 9, 2024 (2024-08-09) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine 2024 Kursk offensive Russia declares a "federal-level" emergency in Kursk Oblast as Ukrainian forces continue to advance. (AP via ABC News) Akhmat special forces commander Apti Alaudinov says that Ukrainian troops "simply passed-by" their positions without engaging them, with Akhmat troops choosing to retreat until more Russian reinforcements could arrive. Other reports indicate that Akhmat troops fled from Ukrainian forces. (The New Voice of Ukraine via MSN) A Russian military convoy is destroyed on the E38 highway in Oktyabrsky District. (The Guardian) Ukrainian troops capture the Gazprom gas facility in Sudzha. A video shows Ukrainian soldiers inside the natural gas facility, with much of the town reportedly under Ukrainian control. (Reuters via Al Arabiya) Ukraine launches a "massive" drone attack on Lipetsk Oblast, Russia, with Lipetsk air base reportedly on fire. Several villages are evacuated, with six people reportedly injured. (Reuters) Eastern Ukraine campaign 2024 Kostiantynivka supermarket missile attack A Russian missile attack on a supermarket in Kostiantynivka, Donetsk Oblast, kills 14 people and injures 43 others. (Reuters) Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian war The United States announces it will send Ukraine a $125 million military aid package, including FIM-92 Stinger missiles, artillery ammunition, and anti-armor systems. (Reuters) Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip Third Battle of Khan Yunis Israeli troops launch a new assault on Khan Yunis, with airstrikes killing at least 21 Palestinians in the city and Israeli troops initiating ground operations in the city for the third time since the war's beginning. (AP) United States support for Israel in the Israel–Hamas war The United States finances Israel with $3.5 billion to spend on U.S. weapons and military equipment. (Reuters) Samer al-Hajj, a Hamas security official for the Ain al-Hilweh Palestinian refugee camp, is assassinated by an Israeli drone strike in Sidon, Lebanon. (Al Jazeera) Israeli–Palestinian conflict Israeli occupation of the West Bank The United States declares the Netzah Yehuda Battalion eligible for US military assistance. The unit is known for establishing illegal outposts on Palestinian land, and was removed from its traditional posting in the West Bank in 2022 due to human rights violations against Palestinians. (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents Voepass Linhas Aéreas Flight 2283 A Voepass Linhas Aéreas ATR 72-500 aircraft crashes in Vinhedo, São Paulo, Brazil, killing all 62 people on board. (AP) (G1 Globo) Nine people are killed and 26 others injured after a bus crash in Polatlı, Turkey. (AP) Law and crime 2023 Sierra Leone coup attempt A military court in Sierra Leone sentences 24 soldiers to prison terms ranging from 50 to 120 years for their roles in a failed coup attempt in November 2023. (Reuters) Prosecutors in China charge multiple funeral directors with selling more than 4,000 corpses to two major medical companies over several decades. Police seized 18 tonnes of bones and 34,000 semi-finished products, with the thieves having earned around 380 million yuan (US$53 million) before they were arrested. (SCMP) (NOS) (Newsweek) International relations Foreign relations of Mali, Foreign relations of Sweden, Mali–Russia relations Mali orders the Swedish ambassador to leave within 72 hours, days after Sweden announced that development aid to Mali would be suspended over Mali's support for Russia. (Al Jazeera) (Swedish Foreign Ministry) Saudi Arabia–United States relations The Biden administration partially lifts a three-year-old ban on American weapons sales to Saudi Arabia. (Reuters) Law and crime 2024 Venezuelan presidential election Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro suspends the X social network in Venezuela for 10 days, accusing X's owner Elon Musk of promoting hatred. (AP) 2024 Vienna terrorism plot The Austrian interior minister announces the arrest of an Iraqi man in connection with a foiled terror attack at American singer Taylor Swift's concerts in Vienna, which were cancelled in response to the attack. (The Guardian) Politics and elections Hundreds of people protest in Dhaka, Bangladesh, against violence targeting the country's Hindu minority. (Reuters) Sports 2024 Summer Olympics Algeria at the 2024 Summer Olympics Imane Khelif wins the gold medal in the Women's 66 kg boxing event, after facing controversy and harassment related to a 2023 gender evaluation by the International Boxing Association, which is no longer recognized by the IOC. (Al Jazeera) Breaking at the 2024 Summer Olympics In the first-ever breakdancing event at the Olympics, Ami Yuasa of Japan wins the B-Girls gold medal, with Dominika "Nicka" Banevič of Lithuania winning the silver and Liu "671" Qingyi of China winning the bronze. (AP) Concerns and controversies at the 2024 Summer Olympics French police arrest Egyptian wrestler Mohamed Ibrahim El-Sayed for allegedly groping a woman at a café. (BBC News)

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(Posted) RD: Kasper König

Article: Kasper König (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): art-news i English and others in German
Credits:

• Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Grimes2 (talk · give credit) and Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Influential for modern art as curator, publisher, professor, museum director. There was a minimal article. He'd deserve more detail (which is in the sources), but time is running out. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• Conditional support Needs a reference for the full date of birth but otherwise, it looks ready. Schwede66 23:24, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

  I found a ref (dpa), added. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:58, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted – Schwede66 18:14, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Ida Bagus Ardana

Article: Ida Bagus Ardana (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://radarbali.jawapos.com/peristiwa/704956420/geger-mantan-bupati-jembrana-ida-bagus-ardana-diduga-tewas-bersama-istri-di-sesetan-ada-bercak-darah-kamar-terkunci
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Jeromi Mikhael (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Former bureaucrat and politician in Bali; found dead in his house under mysterious circumstances. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support looks alright and well-cited for ITN standards. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 20:59, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 01:56, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed; posted RD) RD: Susan Wojcicki

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Article: Susan Wojcicki (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Former CEO of YouTube Susan Wojcicki dies at the age of 56. (Post)
News source(s): Hindustan Times Variety Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Jeromi Mikhael (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Natemup (talk · give credit), Titanoboa Constrictor (talk · give credit) and Zszn (talk · give credit)

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Former CEO of Youtube. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 05:41, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

• Wait Article's in good shape. However, I want to see more reliable sources publish the news before we post.❤HistoryTheorist❤ 05:46, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Other publications are now reporting this as well. Natg 19 (talk) 06:17, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Alrighty. My search engine probably has not caught up. :) I support nomination now. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 06:21, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support ITN. I don't see why somebody who owned one the largest video broadcasting companies in the world for 10 years should not have at least an ITN Lukt64 (talk) 08:04, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

  A CEO of a company is not the owner. Celjski Grad (talk) 10:38, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support RD Article is of sufficient quality. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:12, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support RD Article is in good shape. Grimes2 (talk) 08:44, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support RD Worth mentioning and everyone is talking about it in Social Media, can't see why we cannot put a CEO's name who foresaw the globalisation of internet entertainment in the past couple of years .Fluddsskark (talk) 10:11, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support ITN/Blurb She was a very, very well known CEO of one of the biggest platforms in the world and sat in her position for the past 10 years. If the consensus is RD, consider this support RD. TwistedAxe [contact] 10:47, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support RD Her work does not really rise to the level of a blurb, but at least the article is well-cited. rawmustard (talk) 11:35, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted RD—Bagumba (talk) 14:39, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
• support blurb one of the biggest entrepreneurs of the digital era. if random cult following figures like pop stars (e.g. Prince) or actors (that black guy from the Black Panther the movie) deserve a mention, she does too. Especially since her death came in as a surprise (fairly young, has not revealed her disease before her death. Kasperquickly (talk) 17:44, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

  I mean that black guy from black panther was also one of the biggest Hollywood actors, though his notability for posting was iffy PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:09, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

  Jim Brown was transformational. How about Wojcicki? Recommending Google buy YouTube isn't that big a deal. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:07, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support blurb Big name. Led massive growth in a company which now influences a billion human hours every day. Jiaminglimjm (talk) 19:12, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

• Picture Recent discussions on ITN's talk page show strong support for posting pictures for RDs and changing ITN's picture every day. The aircraft picture has been posted for over a day now and we have a good picture of this person so let's use it. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
• PP Support for RD respectfully oppose blurb. Notable? Certainly. On the same level as Warren Buffet, Elon Musk or Bill Gates? No. -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:18, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Support blurb - not only did she have a substantial impact on YouTube, but she was an effective queenpin in Google for a decade and a half prior to becoming CEO. — Knightoftheswords 13:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb Notable but figuring out how to monetize humans staring at photons emitted from a substrate isn't exactly newsworthy. Kcmastrpc (talk) 13:55, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

  Monetizing humans looking a photons from a substrate has been universally acknowledged as one of the most important events of the past half century. — Knightoftheswords 12:29, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

  Yea, but am I not allowed to be grumpy about it? Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:53, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

  That feels like a bit of a reach, and even if we believe this, does Wojcicki get outsized credit for the idea? DarkSide830 (talk) 19:09, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb did not have major world influence or importance. I would argue that most CEOs should not be blurbed, outside of newsworthy/major figures such as Steve Jobs, Warren Buffett, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, or Bill Gates. Natg 19 (talk) 20:04, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
• Neutral on blurb. Not like I would be torn up over running; to me it's sort of "close to the line" and could go either way really. To me the "transformational figure" thing ought to be something easy to quantify: did major news outlets in multiple countries regularly "hang on their every word" so to speak, and run stories solely about: "Person X said/did thing Y"? People mentioned like Gates and Warren easily qualify; looking to other shores, Jack Ma is one who comes to mind. It needs to be solely about quantifiable data that people broadly agree upon (a "consensus" of sorts you might say), not everyone's individual subjective judgments which will frequently differ. --Slowking Man (talk) 20:34, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb. Not a global household name. Sandstein 11:12, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Steve Symms

Article: Steve Symms (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Idaho Public Television, Idaho Capital Sun
Credits:

• Nominated by Curbon7 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Former U.S. Senator from Idaho. Died yesterday, but death announced today. Article seems to be in pretty good shape. Curbon7 (talk) 00:34, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

• Almost Ready I would vote !support, but there is a statement in the article which I don't know needs citation or not (about Symms choosing not to run for re-election in 1992). I'd be safe and cite it, but overall the article looks pretty good and the lack of citation should not stop it from getting posted. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 00:46, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

  I've added a citation for it. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 16:27, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: Election results section needs references. Spencer^T•C 11:26, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

  @Spencer: I've now added citations. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 16:43, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 23:06, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Voepass Linhas Aéreas Flight 2283

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The aircraft involved in the accident

Article: Voepass Linhas Aéreas Flight 2283 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Voepass Linhas Aéreas Flight 2283 crashes in São Paulo, Brazil, killing all 62 people on board (Post)
News source(s): G1 Globo CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by RandomInfinity17 (talk · give credit)

Deadliest commercial aircraft accident of 2024. Picture is of aircraft operated by previous airline. Additional source for no survivors. RandomInfinity17 (talk - contributions) 18:53, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Support This is a very major incident. Stuart2202 (talk) 19:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support. Sad/Terrible news. The article structure looks fair enough. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 19:10, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Wait for article to develop further - it’s a bit short at the moment. Support on notability, though. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:15, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Decent sized air crash. Harizotoh9 (talk) 19:35, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Skyshiftertalk 19:53, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Major transportation related mass casualty event. We typically post this sort of thing. Article is no longer a stub and is well sourced. I expect it to expand as more information becomes available. Good to go. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:55, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted. Sandstein 20:02, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  @Sandstein: please, add Vinhedo. ArionStar (talk) 02:44, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

  I don't see a need to. Sandstein 08:03, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. The information in the article currently gives no indication of significance beyond a standard investigation. Airplane crashes have no inherent significance or notability, which seems to be the only argument that !support votes have offered. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 19:15, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

  Mass casualty events are considered to be standard thresh-hold for international news. Harizotoh9 (talk) 00:06, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

  Harizotoh9 Mass casualty events are routinely deleted at AfD and they don't automatically have lasting significance. This is just another ITNism made up by a group that has insulated itself from the community and pretends sitewide standards don't apply here. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 00:37, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

  citation needed. Its actually very hard to delete "news" articles despite the fact that WP:NOTNEWS exists. We should be far more discriminate about when we create articles (and thus feature in ITN) about such events, but we have a really bad problem that editors will rush to create an article about anything, and then when the suggestion of an AFD or merge comes up, too many fighting to keep it on claims that news coverage meets notability, despite that both the GNG and NEVENT caution about bursts of news coverage being used to define notability. Masem (t) 01:27, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

  This is definitely also true. But I've noticed that news type events from the 2000s and increasingly the 2010s are more readily deleted because at this point it's obvious that they were never notable in the first place. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 03:53, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

  Anyone who thinks this lacks notability is of course free to open a discussion at WP:AFD. I would however gently suggest taking a deep breath first, unless you are fond of seafood. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:58, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

• Post-Posting Support Per the lead of the article, this is the first deadly aviation accident in Brazil since 2011, and the deadliest in Brazil since 2007, which passes the bar for notability in my mind. Gödel2200 (talk) 00:11, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

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RD: Kevin Sullivan (wrestler)

Article: Kevin Sullivan (wrestler) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Wrestlezone
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:BC2A:8EA5:908C:9F2A (talk · give credit)
• Updated by MIDI (talk · give credit) and Speakfor23 (talk · give credit)

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American professional wrestler. 240F:7A:6253:1:BC2A:8EA5:908C:9F2A (talk) 15:47, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

• Not Ready for the usual reason. This one is in rough shape is going to need some work to get it up to scratch. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:30, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

August 8

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August 8, 2024 (2024-08-08) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine 2024 Kursk offensive Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy appears to confirm ordering a major cross-border operation inside Russia, saying that "Russia brought war to our land, and it should feel what it has done". (BBC News) Large explosions are reported near the town of Rylsk in Kursk Oblast, Russia, with videos on social media appearing to show a destroyed column of military vehicles. (The Kyiv Independent) Ukraine launches twelve rockets and 14 drones into Russia, according to both acting Governor of Kursk Oblast Alexei Smirnov and the Russian Ministry of Defence. (DW Russian) Ukrainian forces capture dozens of Russian soldiers in their offensive in Kursk Oblast. Russian authorities say that fighting is still ongoing for control of several settlements near the border. (Al Jazeera) Ukrainian troops and tanks enter the town of Sudzha, forcing the local residents to flee. (Sky News) (BBC Russian Service) 2024 Iran–Israel conflict, Israel–Hezbollah conflict One Lebanese civilian and a Hezbollah militant are killed and three Lebanese civilians are injured in Israeli strikes in southern Lebanon. Hezbollah fires 25 rockets at the Israeli-occupied Syrian Golan Heights and fifteen rockets at Shlomi and Kabri in Upper Galilee, Israel. All rockets are intercepted by the Iron Dome. (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents 2024 Atlantic hurricane season Hurricane Debby Tropical Storm Debby makes its second landfall near Bulls Bay, South Carolina, United States. (AP) 2024 Hyūga-nada earthquake A 7.1-magnitude earthquake strikes off the coast of Kyushu, Japan. A tsunami advisory is issued for parts of the islands of Kyushu and Shikoku. (The Japan Times) Politics and elections 2024 Bangladesh quota reform movement Non-cooperation movement Muhammad Yunus returns to Bangladesh to lead the country's interim government. (Reuters) 2017–2018 Spanish constitutional crisis Former Catalan government president Carles Puigdemont returns to Barcelona, Spain, after seven years of "self-exile", defying an arrest warrant issued by the Supreme Court. Catalan regional police subsequently institute tight controls on traffic in and out of the city, as part of an attempt to arrest Puigdemont. (The New York Times) (Cadena SER) Two Mossos d'Esquadra officers are arrested for allegedly collaborating on Puigdemont's escape, following his public appearance in Barcelona. (Antena 3) 2024 Catalan regional election Socialists' Party candidate Salvador Illa is elected as the new Catalan government president by the Parliament of Catalonia, becoming the first non-separatist president in more than 10 years. (Al Jazeera) Science and technology Internet censorship in Russia YouTube is reportedly blocked and slowed down across Russia following the website's blocking of several channels that expressed support for the Russian invasion of Ukraine. (Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty) Sports 2024 Summer Olympics Botswana at the 2024 Summer Olympics Letsile Tebogo wins the gold medal in Men's 200 metres, earning Botswana its first ever gold medal. (Olympics) Ecuador at the 2024 Summer Olympics Lucía Yépez wins the silver medal in the Women's freestyle 53 kg wrestling event, the first medal in the sport for Ecuador. (Olympics) Pakistan at the 2024 Summer Olympics Arshad Nadeem wins the gold medal in Men's javelin throw, breaking the Olympic record and earning Pakistan its first ever medal in Athletics and its first ever individual gold medal. (DW) Refugee Olympic Team at the 2024 Summer Olympics Cindy Ngamba wins a bronze medal in Women's middleweight boxing, the first-ever medal won for the Refugee Olympic Team. (Olympics)

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RD: Mitzi McCall

Article: Mitzi McCall (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood, The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:300E:366:F55B:E06A (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Mmb5 (talk · give credit) and Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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American actress and comedian. 240F:7A:6253:1:300E:366:F55B:E06A (talk) 07:29, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: Filmography needs references. Spencer^T•C 11:25, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Issa Hayatou

Article: Issa Hayatou (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:1131:B696:A25D:A8D (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TheBigJagielka (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Former president of CAF and former interim president of FIFA. 240F:7A:6253:1:1131:B696:A25D:A8D (talk) 06:41, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - Sports career and Administrative career sections are entirely uncited. The Kip ^(contribs) 07:38, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Chi-Chi Rodríguez

Article: Chi-Chi Rodríguez (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT PGATour
Credits:

• Nominated by Staraction (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Puerto Rican golfer. Staraction (talk | contribs) 04:03, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

• Not Ready for the usual reason. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:59, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Kalatiku Paembonan

Article: Kalatiku Paembonan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://toraja.inews.id/read/477729/mantan-bupati-toraja-utara-kalatiku-paembonan-meninggal-dunia-selamat-jalan-putra-terbaik-toraja
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Jeromi Mikhael (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 17:58, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support. Article structure seems okay to me. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 02:41, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support No major issues. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:01, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 14:41, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) RD: Jack Karlson

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Article: Democracy Manifest (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by The C of E (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TheLoyalOrder (talk · give credit) and GreenC (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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The Succulent Chinese Meal man. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 12:44, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Strong oppose and suggest close, he doesn't have his own Wikipedia article. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 12:46, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jalapeño: There is precidence for this when we ran Barry Chuckle who also didn't have his own individual page. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 13:00, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Individuals who do not have their own article but who have significant coverage on an article about a group (e.g. one member of a musical group) are eligible for a recent deaths entry on a case-by-case basis. This is not one of those cases since this is not a group like the other one was.

Noah, BSBA^Talk 13:20, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Support - the article is effectively about him since he's the central figure of the whole meme. Karlson's name is even bolded in in the article. — Knightoftheswords 14:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Per above, does not meet the criteria for WP:ITNRD. Estreyeria (talk) 15:00, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Support He is the entirety of what appears in the video. Celjski Grad (talk) 15:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Support Karlson is the central person of the topic. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 16:39, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose even taken into account that the central figure of the video is this person and that there us no standalone for him, the coverage of him in this article as a person is trivially short and indicates that he had little notability, the video itself was. Masem (t) 19:26, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Support Despite this individual not meeting the criteria set forth in WP:ITNRD does not mean his death cannot be mentioned. BLP protections apply to the page for which he’s mentioned in, and we should make consideration for slightly modifying the requirement mentioned above around “groups”, eg: “groups or cultural icons (memes)”. Hide the Pain Harold definitely needs a RD (when the time comes). Kcmastrpc (talk) 21:56, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

BLP applies everywhere, the protections are used on any page where BLP violations have occurred or likely to occur. Just being tagged with such protection doesn't make the page a BLP. — Masem (t) 23:00, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

• Weak Support I think one of the main reasons RDs for members of groups is allowed is because the page for a group will most likely contain a fair deal of biographical information relating to the members of the group. The current article does contain a bit of biographical information, which I consider just barely enough to be posted. Gödel2200 (talk) 22:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose This is not a biography, and therefore it doesn't meet ITNRD. This article is about the video, not him. He is not sufficiently covered. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:39, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. We do not have a biographical article. While the subject who was the primary individual featured in the video did indeed die, but our criteria for recent deaths does not expand to this scope. The guidance permits that [a]n individual human, animal or other biological organism that has recently died may have an entry in the recent deaths (RD) section if it has a biographical Wikipedia article (emphasis mine), but we have no such biographical article for this individual. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 02:07, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. Per most of the above. The article in question is mostly about the video and isn't a biography article. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 02:45, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Procedural oppose' per above but am not opposed to taking another look at the criteria This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:53, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Haven’t there been names run on RD who have been the subjects of “death of” or “killing of” articles? If that’s happened before, I don’t see any reason why Karlson shouldn’t run. Thriley (talk) 12:39, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  Comment Not to mention Jack Karlson exists as a redirect, but I guess that's not enough either? Kcmastrpc (talk) 13:34, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  The issue to me is that we have one paragraph of biographical material in this article. If that could be significantly expanded, that might be a reason, but his biography is basically a side note to the fame of the video. Masem (t) 13:58, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  We have sometimes made exceptions for persons who are exceptionally famous or infamous for a single thing, such as serial killers, where they are discussed at length in the article on their crimes. But I don't think this falls into that category. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  Well yes we can't compare serial killers to someone arrested for eating a meal (a Succulent Chinese Meal!). However, it is a video that has taken on a cultural life of its own, including in depth dives into Karlson's history and the fact that we have international coverage worldwide that doesn't happen for many internet memes indicates to me that this may be one of those exceptions of being famous for one thing. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 16:37, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per most of the above. Subject does not meet the customary criteria for RD, which usually requires a stand-alone article. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:03, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Seems kind of bureaucratic to exclude based on the focus which is primarily concerning Karlson, the subject of the meme video, and contains biographical information about Karlson. -- GreenC 16:04, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support The subject has an obituary in The Times and it doesn't get any better than that. As he seems quite notable, I suppose that the main complication hitherto has been his multiple aliases but his death seems to have clarified that. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:19, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  As I said above, if there was more than a paragraph of actual bio info (hint: that obit can be used to fill in some more) then it would be reasonable to post. But right now, its still a tiny single paragraph within the entire article and includes an unsourced statement (plus the writing is extremely informal for an encyclopedic article). It could get there but the bio must be expanded. Masem (t) 17:41, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  If you said this above, then you're repeating yourself contrary to WP:BLUDGEON. Please don't horn in on other editors' !votes. "Democracy Manifest!". 20:04, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Andrew🐉(talk) 20:04, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  And I'm saying that if with this bios we can get that section past a single biographic paragraph, it may be reasonable to post for RD, but while it is only one paragraph and a missing source on a sentence, it fails the quality expectations for BLP articles to even be featured on the main page. Those that want to see it posted should take the time to work on that improvement. Masem (t) 20:34, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Obituaries from the BBC and The Guardian in addition to The Times. Thriley (talk) 20:14, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment WP:ITNRD reads:

  An individual human, animal or other biological organism that has recently died may have an entry in the recent deaths (RD) section if it has a biographical Wikipedia article ...

  —Bagumba (talk) 14:13, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Support Central figure within the article, still see content about this guy today Hungry403 (talk) 22:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment This is about to roll off so it should either be posted or closed. Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:18, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose If a person doesn't have their own WP article, their death shouldn't be posted in ITNRD. TwistedAxe [contact] 16:21, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Taberon Honie

Article: Taberon Honie (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): APNews,
Credits:

• Nominated by Rockstone35 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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• Utah executed him today. --Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 08:32, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support article looks well sourced, no outstanding maintenance tags. Aydoh8^[contribs] 00:33, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support. Looks good, no problems found. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 02:48, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 06:24, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

August 7

Portal:Current events/2024 August 7

August 7, 2024 (2024-08-07) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel The Israel Defense Forces confirms the death of Bilha Yinon, the last person missing in Israel following the attack by Hamas on October 7, 2023. (Newsweek) Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip Six Palestinians are killed in an Israeli raid on the Maghazi refugee camp and in Khan Younis in the Gaza Strip. (Saba News Agency) (Al Jazeera) 2024 Iran–Israel conflict, Israel–Hezbollah conflict Egypt and the United Kingdom issue NOTAM alerts and order their airlines to avoid Iranian and Lebanese airspaces. (Reuters) Three killed and ten injured in Israeli airstrikes on Jwaya, Lebanon. (Al Jazeera) Hezbollah launches rockets on the Israeli-occuped Syrian Golan Heights and shelled an IDF outpost in Jal al-Allam, Israel. (Al Jazeera) Russian invasion of Ukraine 2024 Kursk offensive Russian Chief of General Staff Valery Gerasimov says that the Ukrainian advance into Kursk Oblast has been stopped as reports emerge of continued heavy fighting in the vicinity of Sudzha. (BBC News) Acting Governor of Kursk Oblast Alexei Smirnov declares a state of emergency in the region. (DW) Disasters and accidents Thirty people are killed, five are missing and hundreds are displaced after days of floods in Hodeidah and Hajjah, Yemen. (AP) Five people, including four Chinese nationals, are killed in a helicopter crash in Nuwakot District, Bagmati Province, Nepal. (AP) Health and environment Deforestation of the Amazon Rainforest The Government of Brazil reports that deforestation in the Amazon Rainforest is at its lowest level since 2016. (AP) Environmental threats to the Great Barrier Reef The water temperature around the Great Barrier Reef is reported to have reached a 400-year record high, which is causing more mass bleaching events. (DW) Law and crime 2023 Thai general election Lèse-majesté in Thailand The Constitutional Court of Thailand orders the dissolution of the Move Forward Party, which won the most seats and votes in last year's election, but was blocked from forming a government, over the party's campaigning on Lèse-majesté decriminalization. (BBC News) (Al Jazeera) End Bad Governance protests Nigeria arrests seven Polish nationals for raising Russian flags during anti-government protests this week. (Reuters) South Africa's genocide case against Israel Turkey submits a bid to join South Africa's side in the International Court of Justice case against Israel's conduct in the Gaza Strip. (Al Jazeera) Police in Berlin, Germany, arrest a palliative care nurse for allegedly killing four elderly patients. (DW) Russian-American Ksenia Karelina pleads guilty in a Russian court to a charge of treason. (CNN) 2024 Vienna terrorism plot Police in Austria arrest two men affiliated with the Islamic State for allegedly planning to commit a terrorist attack at American singer Taylor Swift's upcoming concerts at the Ernst-Happel-Stadion in Vienna, which are subsequently cancelled. (The Guardian) Politics and elections 2024 United States House of Representatives elections Missouri Democratic congresswoman Cori Bush loses her primary election to St. Louis County prosecutor Wesley Bell, becoming the second member of the Squad to lose a primary. (BBC News) Comorian president Azali Assoumani grants extensive powers to his son and alleged successor Nour El Fath, allowing El Fath to intervene in multiple stages of government decision-making. (Reuters) Sports 2024 Summer Olympics China at the 2024 Summer Olympics China wins their first gold medal in artistic swimming. (Reuters) Concerns and controversies at the 2024 Summer Olympics French police detain Australian field hockey player Tom Craig for allegedly purchasing cocaine. (DW) India at the 2024 Summer Olympics Indian wrestler Vinesh Phogat is disqualified from the final of the Women's freestyle 50 kg event for being above the stipulated weight during the weigh-in on the morning of the finals, eliminating her from the medal competition and relegating her to last place in the classification. (India Today)

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RD: Patrice Laffont

Article: Patrice Laffont (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.dna.fr/societe/2024/08/07/l-animateur-de-television-patrice-laffont-est-mort-a-84-ans
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Varoon2542 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:29, 12 August, 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose due to article orange tag. Celjski Grad (talk) 09:32, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Banning of MFP

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Article: Move Forward Party (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Move Forward Party is dissolved and Pita Limjaroenrat (pictured), alongside other senior politicians from the party, are banned from politics by the Constitutional Court of Thailand. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ After being accused of wanting to amend the Lèse-majesté laws, the Move Forward Party and its executives are banned from politics by the Constitutional Court of Thailand.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The Move Forward Party is dissolved and its executives (founder Pita Limjaroenrat pictured) are banned from politics by the Constitutional Court of Thailand.
News source(s): NPR Al-Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by River10000 (talk · give credit)

• This is an important development in the flawed democracy of Thailand, specifically with the banning of the party exec. from politics; he was arguably the most popular politician in Thailand. While the MFP will move to a new party, the lingering effect will stay. River10000 (talk) 19:15, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Support alt 3 Event is noteworthy, the official opposition party was banned, and this blurb is the best at describing it. Scu ba (talk) 23:17, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Support alt 3, definitely noteworthy and that is the most concise blurb. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:34, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose for ITN, though I will include it in 2024. This is not a change in head of state/government, as Pita Limjaroenrat was not the incumbent prime minister or a similar position. Party dissolutions are common in Thailand, and this doesn't have sufficient due weight for ITN. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 23:40, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Weak oppose I think from what I read and per JohnAdams, all that's happening is because the high court said that the party's stance against the lèse-majesté law (which violates criticism of the royal family) was unconstitutional and had to dissolve the party, but for all purposes, they're all just jumping over to a new party that does not have a stance on lèse-majesté. If anything, there would need to be more focus on this aspect around the lèse-majesté law issue, not just the simple disbanding of the party and reforming as something else. Further, it reads that this party already was born of the ashes from a previous party one or two years ago, so this is not uncommon. --Masem (t) 00:20, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Comment yeah, sure, but this is the main opposition party, technically the second largest party in the country, the only meaningful voice of discontent against the government, and they got banned for due to a rather unpopular law protecting the royals. Scu ba (talk) 00:59, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

And as they filter into the new party that is being formed in its wake, that will likely become the main opposition party. The story is really around the law and ruling from the supreme court, the effect of breaking up the party more the side result from that. Masem (t) 20:28, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support major domestic political development. We'd post it if the German CDU got banned for dubious reasons This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:56, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  Support too. This is major democratic backsliding and is as notable as a party winning an election, if not more.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 12:15, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

• Weak Oppose As others have said, this is not the first time a party dissolution has occured in Thailand, with the MFP being the successor of the Future Forward Party. This dissolution also bans the executives of the MFP from politics, but the article really does not explain if that will have a major impact on the effectiveness of the new party (People's Party). If information is added to the article that says that the banning of the politicians will significantly weaken the new party, then I will change to support. Gödel2200 (talk) 12:54, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - The main page is typically for very big events, such as electing a new government, or disasters. Impact seems to be mostly internal to Thailand. Harizotoh9 (talk) 19:57, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  Please see WP:ITNCDONT#2. Curbon7 (talk) 22:22, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

• Weak oppose per Godel. Not the first time this has happened, and besides Pita's ban from politics, it seems there's not too major an impact - the party's members/infrastructure have already shifted to a new party. The Kip ^(contribs) 02:45, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Jon McBride

Article: Jon McBride (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CollectSpace,
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Hawkeye7 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Sinbabad (talk · give credit) and Thebig93 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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• NASA astronaut. One of the class of 1978 (the "Thirty-Five New Guys") hired to fly the Space Shuttle. Flew one Space Shuttle mission. Article is in poor shape, but should meet Masem's our minimum standards. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Support article looks good Scu ba (talk) 23:17, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted. I hope Masem is okay with this. --PFHLai (talk) 19:40, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Battle of Tinzaouaten (2024)

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Article: Battle of Tinzaouaten (2024) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Mali and Niger cut diplomatic ties with Ukraine for its alleged involvement in a rebel attack that killed dozens of Malian troops and Russian mercenaries. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by Nice4What (talk · give credit)

Though the attack occurred over a week ago, it has gained international attention after Mali cut ties with Ukraine for admitting, and then denying, involvement in an attack with high casualties. Also part of a trend of West African states pivoting towards Russia. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 12:26, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Would be part of the Ukraine ongoing, and considering what's already stale, the small update on cutting of ties is not significant enough. --Masem (t) 12:33, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Masem. Estreyeria (talk) 13:01, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The battle itself is stale, and the cutting of diplomatic ties is not significant enough to post. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per above Ion.want.uu (talk) 14:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per above. Mellk (talk) 15:00, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per above

Personisinsterest (talk) 16:50, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

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August 6

Portal:Current events/2024 August 6

August 6, 2024 (2024-08-06) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War Russian invasion of Ukraine 2024 Kursk offensive Ukraine launches an incursion into Kursk Oblast, Russia. (Reuters) Eastern Ukraine campaign Russia claims that it captured the village of Tymofiivka in Donetsk Oblast. (AA) 2024 Iran–Israel conflict, Israel–Hezbollah conflict Six IDF soldiers and 13 Israeli civilians injured in a Hezbollah drone strike and a malfunctioning of the Iron Dome on a highway in Mazra'a and Hezbollah launches rockets at IDF targets in Avivim, Birkat Rasha, Acre and the Golani Brigade of Egoz Unit in northern Israel. (Al Jazeera) Five Hezbollah militants killed in an Israeli airstrike on Mayfadoun, Lebanon. (Al Jazeera) Sudanese civil war Siege of El Fasher At least 53 people are killed and 60 others are injured in Rapid Support Forces raids on several neighborhoods in El Fasher and Gezira State, Sudan. (Radio Dabanga) M23 offensive Congolese President Félix Tshisekedi accuses former President Joseph Kabila of backing the Alliance Fleuve Congo, a U.S-sanctioned coalition of rebel groups, whose main member is the M23. (AP) Arts and culture Whaling in Japan Japanese whaling company Kyodo Senpaku announces the country's first fin whale kill in fifty years off the coast of Iwate Prefecture. (Undercurrent News) (The Inertia) Business and economy Japan's Nikkei 225 stock market index rises more than 10%, a day after declining by more than 12%. (The Washington Post) (The Guardian) Disasters and accidents 2024 Japan heatwaves At least 123 people, many of whom were elderly, are reported to have died from heat illnesses in the Greater Tokyo Area of Japan in July amid an ongoing heatwave in the country. (AP) At least two people are killed when a hotel collapses in Kröv, Germany. (DW) (Reuters) International relations Foreign relations of Niger, Foreign relations of Ukraine Niger suspends diplomatic relations with Ukraine over Ukraine's alleged support for rebels who ambushed and killed dozens of Malian soldiers and Russian mercenaries during the Battle of Tinzaouaten in July. (Reuters) Palestine–Russia relations Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas announces a visit to Moscow, Russia, from August 12–14 to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin to discuss the peace process for the Israel–Hamas war and to "strengthen bilateral relations in all areas" between the two nations. (LBCI) (Al Jazeera) Ukraine–European Union relations The European Union approves a grant of €4.2 billion (US$4.58 billion) in financial aid to Ukraine. (Reuters) Law and crime Israel–Hamas war protests 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses In the United States, Massachusetts District Judge Richard Stearns rules that Harvard University must face a lawsuit accusing the university of intentionally ignoring requests for safety from Jewish students following "severe and pervasive harassment" on campus, while also calling the university's claims that antisemitic acts are protected under the First Amendment "dubious". (Reuters) 2024 Israeli protests Haredi Israelis storm the army base in Tel HaShomer in protest of compulsory conscription. (The Jerusalem Post) 2024 Tunisian presidential election A court in Tunisia sentences opposition leader Abir Moussi to two years in prison for insulting the election commission. The court also sentences four potential presidential candidates, including activist Nizar Chaari, to eight months in prison and bans them from running for office on charges of vote buying. (DW) Capital punishment in Iran, Mahsa Amini protests The Iranian government executes a man who was convicted of killing an Islamic Revolutionary Guards officer during anti-government and mandatory hijab law protests in 2022. (DW) Censorship in Germany, Israel–Hamas war protests in Germany A court in Berlin, Germany, convicts a woman and fines her for "condoning a crime" by leading a chant using the phrase "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" during a protest in October 2023. (Al Jazeera) End Bad Governance protests Nigeria detains tailors who made Russian flags that were used in anti-government protests. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2024 Bangladesh quota reform movement Non-cooperation movement Bangladeshi President Mohammed Shahabuddin dissolves the national parliament in preparation for an interim government following the resignation and departure of former Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina. (France 24) President Shahabuddin names civil society leader and Nobel Peace Prize laureate Muhammad Yunus as the chief of the interim government. (DW) 2024 United States presidential election 2024 Democratic Party vice presidential candidate selection Presumptive Democratic Party nominee Kamala Harris selects Minnesota Governor Tim Walz as her running mate. (CNN) Israel–Hamas war Assassination of Ismail Haniyeh Yahya Sinwar is named the new leader of Hamas, following the assassination of Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran. (Reuters) Sports 2024 Summer Olympics Australia at the 2024 Summer Olympics Fourteen-year-old Arisa Trew wins the gold medal in Women's park skateboarding, becoming the youngest Australian to ever win an Olympic gold medal. (The Sydney Morning Herald) Concerns and controversies at the 2024 Summer Olympics Romanian Prime Minister Marcel Ciolacu announces he will boycott the closing ceremony of the Paris Olympics due to an initial judging error in another competitor's Women's floor gymnastics routine, which after being corrected, caused Romanian gymnast Ana Bărbosu to move from bronze medal position to 4th place. (AP) Wrestling at the 2024 Summer Olympics Cuban wrestler Mijaín López wins the gold medal in the Men's Greco-Roman 130 kg event, becoming the first Olympic athlete to win gold in the same event at five consecutive Olympic games and the first wrestler to win five gold medals in Olympic history. (AP)

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2024 Kursk Offensive

Article: August 2024 Kursk Oblast incursion (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ukraine begins a large-scale offensive into the Kursk Oblast of Russia. (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by PrecariousWorlds (talk · give credit)

Yes this is an ongoing item, but this is all over the news, and is the first major Ukrainian offensive in over a year (we blurbed the last one too). It's a major event that I think is notable to post on its own PrecariousWorlds (talk) 20:50, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Good faith nom. However, I respectfully disagree with the OP. There is no evidence of any really extraordinary military significance to this that would justify giving it a blurb when it's already covered in ongoing. Lots of stuff gets news coverage that we don't blurb. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:03, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Wait The offensive is definitely significant compared to previous incursions into Russia, but the scale remains to be seen in full. Either way, this "man bites dog" story might be the most notable thing coming out of Ukraine in nearly a year, so not opposed to blurbing if it keeps gaining in scope. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:49, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose at this point. When we have broken ongoing conflicts to post a blurb, it is generally for a major result, not at the start of some shorter-term event. If Ukraine succeeds at this, that might be worth posting, but if its otherwise a wash, there's really no story then. --Masem (t) 22:52, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Wait per Chaotic Enby. On one hand feels like it's covered by ongoing, but on the other, the first significant ground operation by official Ukrainian forces in Russia proper might surpass that threshold. The Kip ^(contribs) 02:43, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Wait per Kip and Enby. This may drastically affect how the conflict goes, or may not be significant at all, hard to tell at the moment. Hungry403 (talk) 02:58, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

• Wait Being the first incursion into Russia by mostly Ukrainian regular forces seems to be notable, but the effects of it are still not fully clear. Gödel2200 (talk) 12:43, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Wait This is a significant escalation in the war, seeing as Ukraine hasn't gone into Russian territory before, but I would wait until a significant town/city is captured since so far it seems to be only minor border towns Dyaquna (talk) 22:52, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

• Weak Oppose Although one can see it is a major escalation of the war, this is still covered by ongoing. Editor 5426387 (talk) 00:50, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Doris Brougham

Article: Doris Brougham (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Christianity Today
Credits:

• Nominated by HistoryTheorist (talk · give credit)
• Updated by BobChen (talk · give credit) and Vycl1994 (talk · give credit)

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Yes, article has an orange tag. Will try to resolve to get posted. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 02:22, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose with regret. The orange tag is still on there @HistoryTheorist: and there are too many unsourced claims in there. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 10:32, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

It's alright. I kind of forgot about the nomination myself and have become too busy to improve it. It's mostly awards and college degrees that are un-cited--stuff that could be easily removed. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 15:47, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

(Updated) Muhammad Yunus appointed as new interim leader

Article: Muhammad Yunus (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Muhammad Yunus is appointed as the leader of the new, interim government of Bangladesh. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera, BBC, France24
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Lahsim Niasoh (talk · give credit), Wiki N Islam (talk · give credit) and SashiRolls (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Out with the old, in with the new. The current blurb about Sheik Hasina might be incorporated in this but the main thing is to report the new leader. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:31, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

• Just want to say that I fixed the title for you. You forgot to change it from the Hamas nom below lol. Support nom, new head of state being appointed after the ousting of the previous. TwistedAxe [contact] 09:47, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks for the assist. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:11, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article is of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:51, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support New leader of the eighth-most populous country in the world is significant and the article is of good quality. --Plumber (talk) 11:02, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality of Yunus' article (multiple unsourced paragraphs, and some of the sourcing in the criticism section is iffy for a BLP). When ready, that should be merged with the existing blurb, or at least replace it. --Masem (t) 12:01, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability, oppose on quality per Masem: Yunus' article has uncited paragraphs and red links for nonexistent articles. These need to be addressed before posting. Blurb should also be merged with existing blurb. Tofusaurus (talk) 12:34, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

  @Tofusaurus, you might want to read WP:REDYES. Schwede66 04:09, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose The article will need significant work before posting. On a side note, the article says he will officialy take office on 8 August, so we should wait to post until then. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:46, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Article has sufficient due weight and quality for ITN. We regularly include changes in heads of state/government. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 15:33, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality of 2024 Bangladesh Interim Government article. Also there are 4 cn tags in the Muhammad Yunus article; he is not yet appointed it is "to be appointed". MAL MALDIVE (talk) 16:09, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• Merge with the current blurb regarding the resignation of Sheikh Hasina, assuming article quality is adequate for the main page. Kurtis ^(talk) 19:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality - the Publications, Yunus Centre, and Documentaries sections of Yunus' article are mostly or entirely uncited. The interim government article is effectively a list at the moment. Once quality's addressed, merge to existing Bangladesh blurb. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:58, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support merge per Kurtis This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:50, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support merge as the simplest solution.-- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 12:09, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted as an update Stephen 01:01, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  Even with the quality issues that have been pointed out and not resolved? Masem (t) 01:07, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  What quality issues remain in the bolded article? Stephen 01:10, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  @Stephen the Publications section is still roughly half-uncited, and the Documentaries section is entirely uncited. The Kip ^(contribs) 01:12, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  It's all good. Stephen 01:33, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  There is also several unsourced statements earlier in the article as well as CNs (some might be new , but there were at least a couple when I made my comment from last night). Its not "good". Masem (t) 11:47, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  It was good timing to get that done as the readership for the new leader has now surpassed that of the old. Looking at more coverage of his swearing-in, it's interesting that he's 84 -- even older than Biden. He was forced to retire as MD of the Grameen Bank on age grounds back in 2011 but you're never too old to be a national leader, it seems. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:12, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Yahya Sinwar appointed Hamas Chairman

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Article: Yahya Sinwar (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Yahya Sinwar is named the chairman of the Hamas Political Bureau. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Yahya Sinwar is named the chairman of the Hamas Political Bureau following his predecessor, Ismail Haniyeh's, assassination.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Yahya Sinwar is named the chairman of the Hamas Political Bureau following his predecessor, Ismail Haniyeh's, assassination by Israeli forces.
News source(s): Al JazeeraReuters AP
Credits:

• Nominated by Scu ba (talk · give credit)

Support New Head of state, notable coverage in the media, currently relevant geopolitically Scu ba (talk) 22:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Strong oppose, Gaza is not a state but part of the Palestinian Territories, Hamas does govern Gaza partially, but it is ultimately a militant group. Not notable, covered by ongoing. Personisinsterest (talk) 00:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose We don't post this type of transitions in terrorist groups. --Masem (t) 01:07, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Personisinterest. The Palestinian Authority is the internationally-recognized government of Palestine (including Gaza), so this isn’t a change in the head of state/government - just that of a militant group that seized partial control of Palestine. The Kip ^(contribs) 01:14, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per Personisinterest. The Hamas Political Bureau is not the recognised government. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per Masem. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose because Hamas is not a government, but a belligerent in an ongoing war. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 04:02, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

To play Devil's Advocate Hamas does organise a government that is the de facto ruling authority of parts of the Gaza Strip not occupied by Israel. However it can be mostly characterised as a militant terrorist group, and so I don't support blurbing this PrecariousWorlds (talk) 05:42, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per all above TwistedAxe [contact] 09:49, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose: Hamas is only the government in Gaza, not the government of Palestine as a whole. Tofusaurus (talk) 12:30, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Billy Bean

Article: Billy Bean (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [34]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Not to be confused with Billy Beane. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:33, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Looks fine. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 21:54, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Article looks good. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 04:29, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Connie Chiume

Article: Connie Chiume (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): SABC News, eNCA, BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:89E1:1A66:9443:4B37 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Alon Alush (talk · give credit), Toweli (talk · give credit) and Ldavid1985 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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South African actress. 240F:7A:6253:1:89E1:1A66:9443:4B37 (talk) 18:04, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose for the usual reason of a mostly-uncited filmography. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:19, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

August 5

Portal:Current events/2024 August 5

August 5, 2024 (2024-08-05) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Middle Eastern crisis (2023–present) Attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq, Jordan, and Syria during the Israel–Hamas war 2024 Al-Asad Airbase missile attack At least five United States personnel are injured when two missiles strike the joint American–Iraqi Al Asad Airbase in al-Anbar Governorate, Iraq. (Reuters) Israel–Hamas war Israeli razing of cemeteries in the Gaza Strip Israel returns 89 decomposed, unidentifiable Palestinian bodies to the Gaza Ministry of Health. (Al Jazeera) 2024 Iran–Israel conflict, Israel–Hezbollah conflict A Hezbollah militant and a Lebanese paramedic are killed in Israeli airstrikes on Meiss Ej Jabal, Shebaa, Rachaya Al Foukhar and an alleged Hezbollah weapons storage facility in Kafr Kila, Lebanon.(Al Jazeera) Hezbollah launches a drone to an IDF site near Malkia which was intercepted.(Al Jazeera) Ahead of expected retaliation against Israel for the assassination of Ismail Haniyeh, Iran issues a NOTAM, advising aircraft to change their routes over the country due to potential dangers en route. (The Jerusalem Post) M23 offensive Nearly 100 Congolese National Police officers flee to Uganda as fighting between M23 rebels and the Congolese military intensifies. (Reuters) Papua conflict Separatist fighters shoot and kill a New Zealander helicopter pilot in Central Papua province, Indonesia, shortly after landing in the village of Alama. The four indigenous Papuans onboard the aircraft are later released. (Al Jazeera) Red Sea crisis The Houthis claim an attack on the Liberia-flagged container ship MV Groton in the Gulf of Aden. (Al Jazeera) Business and economy Japan's Nikkei 225 stock market index falls by more than 12%, suffering its worst two-day decline ever and its largest daily percentage drop since Black Monday in October 1987. (AP) (Reuters) The Dow Jones Industrial Average, the S&P 500, and the Nasdaq Composite all fall by 3%, registering their biggest three-day declines since June 2022. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2024 Atlantic hurricane season Hurricane Debby At least six people are killed in Florida, United States, by severe weather caused by Hurricane Debby. (BBC News) 2024 Wolayita landslide At least thirteen people are killed by a rainfall-triggered landslide in Wolayita, Ethiopia. (AP) International relations 2024 Venezuelan presidential election International reactions to the 2024 Venezuelan presidential election The European Union joins the United States and several Latin American nations in refusing to accept the claimed Venezuelan presidential election victory of Incumbent President Nicolás Maduro. (Kyiv Post) Brazil becomes the representative of the interests of Argentina and Peru in Venezuela, after Venezuela expels the Argentinian and Peruvian diplomats following tensions in the aftermath of the presidential election. (Reuters) International reactions to the Israel–Hamas war, Economic impact of the Israel–Hamas war The United Kingdom provisionally suspends all arms exports to Israel, pending a policy review. (The Jewish Chronicle) Law and crime 2024 United Kingdom far-right riots Rioting takes place in Plymouth and Birmingham, England, while police are attacked with molotov cocktails in Belfast, Northern Ireland, as the number of people arrested rises to 400. (BBC News) 2024 Venezuelan presidential election, 2024 Venezuelan protests Venezuelan Attorney General Tarek William Saab opens a criminal investigation into opposition officials Edmundo González and María Corina Machado for calling on the Armed Forces to abandon their support for President Nicolás Maduro throughout the protests and riots in the country. (DW) United States v. Google LLC District of Columbia District Judge Amit Mehta finds Google guilty of violating the Sherman Antitrust Act by illegally maintaining a monopoly over internet search. (CNN) (The Washington Post) Uganda Police arrest and charge fourteen Ugandan opposition officials and lawmakers with terrorism charges for participating in anti-government and anti-corruption protests last month. (Reuters) The Hanoi People's Court in Vietnam sentences Bamboo Airways chairman and real estate business tycoon Trinh Van Quyet to 21 years in prison for defrauding investors of 3.6 trillion VNĐ (US$144 million). (DW) (AP) Politics and elections 2024 Bangladesh quota reform movement Non-cooperation movement Prime Minister of Bangladesh Sheikh Hasina resigns and flees to West Bengal, India. (Sky News) Protestors storm the prime minister's residence and the National Parliament building in Dhaka, Bangladesh. (Reuters) (CNBC) Chief of Army Staff Waker-uz-Zaman announces the formation of an interim government in Bangladesh and vows to launch an investigation into the government crackdowns. (France 24) Sports 2024 Summer Olympics Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's pole vault Sweden's Armand Duplantis wins his second consecutive gold medal, breaking his own world record with a jump of 6.25 metres (20 ft 6 in). (CNN) Colombia at the 2024 Summer Olympics Ángel Barajas wins the silver medal in Men's horizontal bar, earning Colombia its first ever medal in gymnastics. (Remezcla) Concerns and controversies at the 2024 Summer Olympics Belgium withdraws from the Mixed relay triathlon event after triathlete Claire Michel becomes ill days after she swam in the Seine river during the women's triathlon event. (CNN) Thailand at the 2024 Summer Olympics Kunlavut Vitidsarn wins the silver medal in the Men's singles badminton event, earning Thailand its first medal in the sport. (WCNC)

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(Posted) RD: Miguel Ángel Gómez Martínez

Article: Miguel Ángel Gómez Martínez (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Violin Channel
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Spanish conductor and composer who conducted from memory, holding leading positions in Europe (Vienna, Madrid, Valencia, Mannheim ...), and composed a Symphony in memory of the discovery of America. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:14, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

In this case updating meant pruning. The bulk of the article was added in one edit by an editor whose only edit that was: flowery language literally translated from Spanish, many references but many simply gone, and all (until he died) in Spanish with English titles and US dates ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 22:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) United States v. Google LLC (2020)

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Article: United States v. Google LLC (2020) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A district court rules that Google illegally held a monopoly in online search. (Post)
News source(s): [35] [36]
Credits:

• Nominated by Awesome Aasim (talk · give credit)
• Updated by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit) and WellThisIsTheReaper (talk · give credit)

This is one of my first in the news nominations, but I think this is something that should be discussed on the Main Page. I don't think the article is sufficiently updated at this time, but I do anticipate that it will be soon. Awesome Aasim 02:11, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose but only because we have no idea what the remedies are yet. If the court forces Alphabet to sell off Google, that might be somethiung, but if its just a multi-million dollar fine, that would be a slap on the wrist. — Masem (t) 02:39, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose because this lacks sufficient due weight for ITN, and is still playing out. Google will likely appeal the ruling, and the article needs more information.JohnAdams1800 (talk) 04:00, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose; this is still an ongoing event. While the ruling itself would be landmark and historical, it could still get overturned on appeal. We’d have to wait and see to make a final determination. Cheers! --WellThisIsTheReaper ^Grim 04:26, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose until there are consequences for Google, as per Masem. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose as there are currently no consequences for Google. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:51, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

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(Closed) Stock market decline

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Article: 2024 stock market decline (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Nikkei 225 experiences its largest one-day loss amid a global sell-off. (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post
Credits:

• Nominated by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit)

• Oppose single day losses or gains aren't good ITN stories. If there was a week long trend of bad stock news, that might be sonething, but markets are always volitile and thus short term trends aren't really good for ITN. Masem (t) 18:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

I would argue this has been going on for several days, since the Department of Labor's report. The S&P 500 Index, for instance, has been falling. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:52, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Certainly made all markets voilitle but in the larger picture, just more wild swings and not massive corrections... Yet. Other pundants are saying this was expected for a long time due to lack of fed interest cut and the perception infinite growth could go on forever, so the market is now just correcting. Either way, we don't have a significant enough long term economic impact appropriate for ITN. Masem (t) 20:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support when article is improved. Economic news are underrepresented at ITN and this one is notable - global in nature, very much so in the news and historic as the largest one day loss. 2A02:8071:6362:54A0:549B:15AE:60C8:4E6 (talk) 18:58, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. This currently this doesn't have enough due weight for ITN. This is an ongoing event and may be mooted if the stock market recovers, or the sell-off could continue and become a bigger story to potentially merit ITN. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 18:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Hasn't been long enough to tell if this will mean anything yet. The article would need expansion anyway. Estreyeria (talk) 19:31, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment On Black Thursday, the decline was 11%. It closed high on Friday. The succeeding Monday and Tuesday had two more ~11% drops. Following that, much of the world plunged into a depression (I'm aware of the London crash and how reductive it is to claim the stock crash was the primary cause of the Depression; this is merely for comparison's sake). This is only one day, however, followed by an eerily similar good day. If the next two trading days have a comparable decline, I'll support. Sincerely, Dilettante 03:23, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose No evidence that this is more than your run of the mill market correction. We don't blurb that sort of thing even if it ends up foreshadowing a recession. The S&P 500's drop today was not even in the top twenty for one day declines. Japan's market drop is interesting but so far unclear what it's long term ramifications will be. And FWIW as of this comment the Nikkei Index is currently trading up around 10%. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:36, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The article has been nominated for deletion and the nominator's reason was "plain economic news, and even as economic news goes it's not notable". MAL MALDIVE (talk) 11:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The article is at Afd and the main impact of the event seems to be (as stated in the lead) the "heightening concerns of a recession" which I do not think is notable enough. Gödel2200 (talk) 12:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

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(Posted) Hasina resigns

Article: Sheikh Hasina (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Bangladeshi prime minister Sheikh Hasina resigns and flees the country following protests. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Bangladeshi Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina resigns and flees the country after protests that followed reform attempts.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Sheikh Hasina resigns as prime minister of Bangladesh and flees to India following protests.
News source(s): India Today
Credits:

• Nominated by Rushtheeditor (talk · give credit)
• Updated by MAL MALDIVE (talk · give credit)

Major news.User:Rushtheeditor (talk) 09:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• If this is posted, I think 2024 Bangladesh quota reform movement should be mentioned in the blurb since the two are related. APK hi :-) (talk) 10:14, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

  @APK: I added a link to Non-cooperation movement (2024). Do you think that’s fine or would a link to 2024 Bangladesh quota reform movement be better? Blaylockjam10 (talk) 10:27, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

  I'm not sure which one would be better, but thank you for pointing out there is a more specific page. APK hi :-) (talk) 10:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

  The alt blurb that was just added works. APK hi :-) (talk) 10:42, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support. Prime minister fleeing country is big news, as were protests themselves. BilboBeggins (talk) 11:45, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Alt Blurb A very big international news. But yellow tag in the bold article needs to be resolved. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 11:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support The Prime Minister resigning and fleeing, IIRC to India, is major news. The ongoing protests were major, and she has been accused of authoritarianism. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 12:32, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Very big news for sure. Also the above article mentioned is better.Sportsnut24 (talk) 10:38, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support: major news Wiki N Islam (talk) 10:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support: Extremely significant development from the Bangladeshi protests. Tofusaurus (talk) 10:54, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support with alt-blurb. -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 10:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support here because I was surprised not to see it front page yet. Plutonium27 (talk) 11:40, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support per all MAL MALDIVE (talk) 11:43, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality. The section involving her last term has nothing except one sentence update as to her leaving the office. While I know ther's a whole separate article on the events leading to this point, we need at least one good sized paragraph summary of why this went this way in the bio article. --Masem (t) 12:01, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
  • There has been some expansion, but there should be more as to what specific actions or inactions she did in the previous protests now linked there that caused the population to turn against her. — Masem (t) 18:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality The target should be Sheikh Hasina, as the article for the protests is well short of main page quality. However, the details of the last term on her page need to be updated Gödel2200 (talk) 12:10, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support with alt burb probably the biggest international news right now. Nomian (talk) 13:12, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Support because this is major news and alt blurb Sharier4 (talk) 13:31, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support with alt blurb Very big news but in the alt make Sheikh Hasina the bolded article instead of the protests Djprasadian (talk) 13:34, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Support Huge news. --Grnrchst (talk) 14:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Support Incredibly important post. Greatder (talk) 14:52, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Bangladesh is the eighth most populous country in the world and just had a revolution. This is gigantic news and its failure to be included so far reflects poorly on Wikipedia as a source of timely information. --Plumber (talk) 15:34, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

  No need to make far reaching conclusions, it will be posted when an administrator assesses the article and confirms it's of good quality. BilboBeggins (talk) 15:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support on notability, but needs more cleanup and updates to be posted. Natg 19 (talk) 16:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support on notability, big news Personisinsterest (talk) 16:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Major geopolitical news, especially after the culmination of the protests is finally over Cranloa12n / talk / contribs / 17:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support ALTblurb Per above, imo the protests should have been ITN for a while now but this can suffice. Ornithoptera (talk) 19:12, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality. We can't post this while the controversy section is orange tagged for neutrality. Per WP:ITNUPDATE, Articles that are subject to serious issues, as indicated by 'orange'- or 'red'-level tags at either the article level or within any section, may not be accepted for an emboldened link.. So it should be fixed before posting. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 19:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• I have removed the tag until such time as the drive-by tagger creates a TP section explaining why policy supports the tag they placed after this ITN/C was opened. Per BRD, they'll need to gain consensus to restore the tag.-- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 22:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality per MonarchOfTerror. Support on notability per others. ArkHyena (talk) 20:02, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment I suggest the target should be Non-cooperation movement (2024) because that is the primary article focused on this event. This is fairly better in terms of quality and improvements here wouldn't take much effort, unlike in the long and comprehensive bio of Sheikh Hasina. Nomian (talk) 20:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
  • The bio article is really close. The orange tag can be addresses and some of that material likely can go up to fill the gap in the section on her last term. If it was miles away I'd agree but it would be better for her more complete article to be target. — Masem (t) 21:03, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• The orange tag has been removed since no TP discussion was created concerning the tag. Perhaps the tagger could spend the time to explain themself on the TP. -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 22:38, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
  • I moved the content about the more recent events that were put in the Controversies section up into the political career, as to meet my suggestion that there should be more there to explain why she fled the position (specifically her stance in the earlier protest). — Masem (t) 03:46, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support ITN/R as change of head of government This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 20:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 23:51, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment There should be some discussion about the violence against Hindus in the blurb. JDiala (talk) 20:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Graham Thorpe

Article: Graham Thorpe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sky News
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:D008:3BBC:2CAE:D4B9 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Fats40boy11 (talk · give credit)

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English cricketer. 240F:7A:6253:1:D008:3BBC:2CAE:D4B9 (talk) 07:31, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article is well sourced and updated. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 16:41, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Looks good. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 19:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support. - SchroCat (talk) 20:39, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted – Schwede66 02:45, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

August 4

Portal:Current events/2024 August 4

August 4, 2024 (2024-08-04) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Eastern Ukraine campaign Russia said its armed forces captured the village of Novoselivka Persha in Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine. (Times of India) Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy announces that the country has received its first F-16 fighter aircraft from NATO allies. (The New York Times) 2024 Bangladesh quota reform movement Non-cooperation movement At least 91 people are killed in violent clashes between anti-government protesters and police units across Bangladesh, as protestors call for Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina to resign. (Al Jazeera) Israeli–Palestinian conflict Two people are killed and two others are injured in a stabbing spree in Holon, Israel. The Palestinian perpetrator is subsequently shot and killed by Israeli police. (Reuters) Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip At least four people are killed and 18 others are injured in an Israeli strike on the al-Aqsa Hospital in Deir al-Balah in the Gaza Strip. (AP) 2024 Iran–Israel conflict, Israel–Hezbollah conflict An IDF officer and soldier is injured near Ayelet HaShahar in dozens of Hezbollah rocket attacks on IDF targets near Beit Hillel, Birkat Risha, Malkia and Ramya in northern Israel. (Al Jazeera) IDF strikes Hezbollah targets in Marjayoun, Hula and Zibqin, starts a fire in a power station in Taybeh and an IDF drone misses its target of a motorcyclist in Rab El Thalathine in southern Lebanon. (Al Jazeera) International relations Foreign relations of Ukraine, Foreign relations of Mali Mali cuts all diplomatic relations with Ukraine for providing intelligence to Tuareg rebels that enabled them to ambush and kill large numbers of Wagner Group mercenaries and Malian troops. (CNN) Malaysia–United Kingdom relations, 2024 United Kingdom riots Malaysia issues a travel warning urging its citizens to not visit the United Kingdom due to ongoing violent riots. (Yahoo! UK) Law and crime 2024 United Kingdom riots, 2024 Southport stabbing More than 150 people are arrested following violent far-right riots targeting mosques and migrant infrastructure throughout the United Kingdom. (BBC) Sports 2024 Summer Olympics Tennis at the 2024 Summer Olympics Novak Djokovic defeats Carlos Alcaraz in the Men's singles final to win the Olympic gold medal, becoming the third male player to achieve a singles Career Golden Slam. (BBC News) Sara Errani and Jasmine Paolini win the gold medal in the Women's doubles tournament, earning Italy its first gold medal in the sport and making Errani the oldest tennis player to achieve a Career Golden Slam. (CNA) Algeria at the 2024 Summer Olympics Kaylia Nemour wins the gold medal in the Women's uneven bars, the first gold medal in gymnastics for Algeria. (NPR) Cape Verde at the 2024 Summer Olympics Daniel Varela de Pina wins a bronze medal in Men's flyweight boxing, earning Cape Verde its first ever Olympic medal. (Olympics)

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RD: Duane Thomas

Article: Duane Thomas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS Sports
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:3433:C2D3:2DC9:5CFD (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Nohomersryan (talk · give credit)

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Running back for the Dallas Cowboys. 240F:7A:6253:1:3433:C2D3:2DC9:5CFD (talk) 07:08, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Missing sources in many places, especially the legacy section. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 20:14, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Steve Kragthorpe

Article: Steve Kragthorpe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS Sports
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:3433:C2D3:2DC9:5CFD (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Here2rewrite (talk · give credit)

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College football coach for Louisville and Tulsa. 240F:7A:6253:1:3433:C2D3:2DC9:5CFD (talk) 07:08, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Multiple paragraphs without a citation. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 20:12, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Tsung-Dao Lee

Article: Tsung-Dao Lee (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:

• Nominated by Staraction (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Article needs work. Staraction (talk | contribs) 16:58, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Needs sourcing work. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 19:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support He won Nobel prize. -Abhishikt (talk) 00:23, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

  Please be reminded to focus your review on article quality and readiness for use on MainPage, rather than who the subject was. Thanks. -- PFHLai (talk) 23:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Shobhana Ranade

Article: Shobhana Ranade (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): All India Radio
Credits:

• Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Tachs (talk · give credit), Roland zh (talk · give credit) and Ohconfucius (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Indian social worker. Ktin (talk) 23:43, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support - article seems fully-sourced. The Kip ^(contribs) 05:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support. In a fairly decent shape. I've also cropped out the the main image to show only the subject. Cheers. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 04:53, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Source number 6 and 12 seem like blogs, are they really reliable? Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 21:51, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Novak Djokovic wins gold medal

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Article: Tennis at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's singles (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the 2024 Summer Olympics, Novak Djokovic wins the gold medal for men's tennis singles. (Post)
News source(s): Hindustan Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Jalapeño (talk · give credit)

Novak's first gold at the Olympics. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 15:16, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose This is similar to the 100m nom below: this is already covered by ongoing. Gödel2200 (talk) 15:22, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose covered by ongoing Ion.want.uu (talk) 15:21, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose covered by ongoing. Lots of people are winning their first Olympic gold. Estreyeria (talk) 16:19, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose not a GS, which is ITNR; covered by ongoing. Unnamelessness (talk) 16:35, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Covered by ongoing and something similar to this nominated a day ago was not posted Hungry403 (talk) 17:31, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

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August 3

Portal:Current events/2024 August 3

August 3, 2024 (2024-08-03) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip At least fifteen people are killed in an Israeli attack on a school sheltering displaced people in the Sheikh Radwan neighbourhood of Gaza City. (Al Jazeera) 2024 Iran–Israel conflict, Israel–Hezbollah conflict One killed and six were injured in Israeli airstrikes in southern Lebanon.(Al Jazeera) Hezbollah launches rockets at Upper Galilee in northern Israel which are intercepted by Israel's Iron Dome and misses an Israeli airforce plane in Lebanese airspace.(Al Jazeera) The United States embassy in Beirut, Lebanon, urges its citizens to leave the country amid increasing tensions in the Middle East. (BBC News) Jihadist insurgency in Niger The Jama'at Nasr al-Islam wal-Muslimin takes two Russian citizens hostage in Mbanga, Niger. (Reuters) Business and economy Russian invasion of Ukraine Economic impact of the Russian invasion of Ukraine S&P Global downgrades Ukraine's credit rating to "SD" for 'selective' default after Ukraine was unable to pay a US$34 million international bond payment, and also stating that Ukraine's credit rating could fall to "D", which would represent a complete default following restructuring of Ukraine's debt. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2024 Antarctica heat wave A record prolonged heat wave persists over Antarctica, with temperatures reaching 50 °F (28 °C) higher than average in some areas during the middle of winter. (CNN) 2024 Japan heatwaves The Japanese Meteorological Agency issues excessive heat warnings for 37 of the 47 prefectures amid heat waves where at least 59 people have died from heat stroke since April. (NHK) (Al Jazeera) Politics and elections Parole for Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans, and Venezuelans The Biden administration provisionally suspends all migrant permits allowing Venezuelans, Cubans, Haitians, and Nicaraguans to enter and stay in the United States for up to two years following suspicions of fraud by several migrant financial sponsors. (AP) The Central Committee of the Communist Party of Vietnam elects President Tô Lâm as the new General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, succeeding Nguyễn Phú Trọng, who died on July 19. (CNA) Sports 2024 Summer Olympics Dominica at the 2024 Summer Olympics Thea LaFond wins the gold medal in the Women's triple jump, earning Dominica its first ever Olympic medal. (Barron's) Philippines at the 2024 Summer Olympics Carlos Yulo wins the gold medal in Men's floor gymnastics, the Philippines' first medal in the sport and the country's second ever gold medal. (ESPN) Saint Lucia at the 2024 Summer Olympics Julien Alfred wins the gold medal in the Women's 100 metres, earning Saint Lucia its first ever Olympic medal. (Barron's) United States at the 2024 Summer Olympics, Swimming at the 2024 Summer Olympics American swimmer Katie Ledecky wins her ninth gold medal, tying with Soviet artistic gymnast Larisa Latynina's record of most gold medals by a female Olympian. (Reuters)

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(Attention needed) RD: Pasi Ikonen

Article: Pasi Ikonen (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): YLE
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Oceanh (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Finnish orienteer, world champion. Oceanh (talk) 00:09, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Looks good enough. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 19:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Very poor prose with a couple of lines in annual sections. What happened after 2011 or did he retire? Stephen 00:23, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Yamini Krishnamurthy

Article: Yamini Krishnamurthy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NDTV Indian Express
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Indian classical dancer. Article meets minimum expectations for mainpage. Ktin (talk) 20:14, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Doesn't appear to be any problems. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 19:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 01:33, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) United Kingdom riots

Article: 2024 United Kingdom riots (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Far-right protesters riot in various parts of the United Kingdom in response to a fatal mass stabbing in Southport. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Far-right, racially motivated protesters riot in various parts of the United Kingdom in response to a fatal mass stabbing in Southport.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Following a mass stabbing in Southport, far-right and anti-immigration riots occur across the United Kingdom.
News source(s): The Guardian, Reuters, The Times]
Credits:

• Nominated by FelineHerder (talk · give credit)

Disrupstive event in a major country. -FelineHerder (talk) 19:46, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Support altblurb, the event is very important but the racial/religious motivations here can't be ignored. Personisinsterest (talk) 22:41, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

• The size of these seem small? While there are many across the country, they seem to be in the dozens to a few hundred or so at each, which is really not that significant in the larger picture. --Masem (t) 00:00, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose It's getting some coverage but the scale of the riots is not on a level that we would normally post at ITN. As far as I can tell the only thing that makes these riots stand out is that it is the far right instead of the left. That is admittedly somewhat unusual in the UK. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:07, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

  What an utterly absurd take. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 09:11, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

  Please substantiate. 2403:580E:5715:0:4DA9:B890:A623:A48F (talk) 11:30, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support - significant; well-developed articles. As a side note, although they were on a larger scale, we put the 2011 riots on ITN, so this is not without precedent. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 15:56, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
  • We tend to post a lot of protests and riots in the first place (not just from the UK), when we should be more focused on what impacts those are having on the city/region/country where they are occuring. For example, the protests in Venezula are clearly having an impact due not just to their size but the challenge to the election. While there has been some acts of violence from these UK ones, they aren't at a scale that seem to be having that significant an impact at this point. — Masem (t) 16:01, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

    What? Tim O'Doherty (talk) 19:47, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support on the proviso that the blurb delineates the 'mass stabbing of children' in Southport. The riots have gained significant traction in the past several hours. ♦ JAGUAR  17:27, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support - Maybe it's because I'm in the UK but right now these riots are pretty big, definitely the largest civil unrest in Britain since 2011, possibly even back earlier PrecariousWorlds (talk) 17:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

  This doesn't seem to be true. From a quick skim of the George Floyd protests in the United Kingdom in 2020, civil unrest was markedly larger in size/scope. spintheer (talk) 18:41, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

  Nowhere near comparable. Three times as many injured in these riots PrecariousWorlds (talk) 09:01, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Pretty exceptional. TrangaBellam (talk) 18:07, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support. What's happening in the UK is not political protests but widespread extremist violence, which is both more unusual and more significant. Nsk92 (talk) 18:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Sustained international coverage, which is unusual for similar protests. C F A 💬 19:04, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support altblurb because definite racial component. Increasing international coverage, as above.--Wuerzele (talk) 19:10, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support altblurb per Wuerzele. This is a significant period of rioting in England from extremist groups that has had significant international news coverage. ArkHyena (talk) 19:51, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment - Any blurb should mention the role of misinformation in triggering these events. Claiming that they're merely "in response to the stabbing" only lends credibility to said misinformation, which is the opposite of what an encyclopaedia should be aiming to do. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 20:49, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

  Motion seconded This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 21:39, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose These riots are not about anything in particular, I know the nominal cause was the Southport attacks but they have proved hopelessly misdirected. These riots are far right thugs and looters doing what thugs and looters do. Don't give them the oxygen of publicity. ITN's neutrality requirements do not prevent us exercising editorial judgement. 3142 (talk) 21:51, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

  I don't oppose us posting this on ITN (it is in the news, unfortunately) but I do oppose us describing the rioters as "protesters" for this reason. Did we do that in 2011? No. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 09:16, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Seems to be ongoing now, and several incidents occurring. UK PM to hold an emergency meeting. RJX74 (talk) 00:44, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Support Gaining a lot of traction. Tons of coverage on the riot around the world, worth posting. Hungry403 (talk) 02:23, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Support alt2; a significant event, and that blurb appears to best reflect the sources. BilledMammal (talk) 02:27, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 03:01, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

  Please add "anti-immigration riots". Kiwiz1338 (talk) 06:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

No need. The current blurb is concise, and the link between these riots and immigration is extremely tenuous. 'Far right' much better characterises their overall nature. GenevieveDEon (talk) 12:48, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

"link between these riots and immigration is extremely tenuous" you have to be kidding me right? That's a main talking point of protesters. "stop the boats" "go home" "England for the English", you watch these protests and you'll hear all these. Kiwiz1338 (talk) 19:23, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: I think we are misinforming our readers by saying these riots have occurred "across the United Kingdom" in the blurb. The riots have been an almost exclusively English phenomenon, with only one relatively minor incident in Belfast. No riots have happened in Wales or Scotland, but that is what we're implying by saying these riots are happening "across the United Kingdom". --Grnrchst (talk) 14:39, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
  • 85% of the UK population lives in England. If the departments containing 85% of the population of France were rioting, would it be implying that the rioting was also happening in the other 15% if we says "protesters riot in France"? Unknown Temptation (talk) 14:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

    Different situation as the UK is a de facto federal state with four very distinct polities, unlike France which is quite centralised. However I don't think we should specify England as there is unrest occurring in the other nations. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 20:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

    The UK isn't in any way a federal state. It's a highly centralised state with unequal devolution to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:50, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) 100M

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Article: Julien Alfred (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Julien Alfred of St. Lucia wins the women's 100m at the Olympics 2024. (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Sportsnut24 (talk · give credit)

Had a discussion about this in the talk pages and it being the biggest sports event in 4 years. Men's is tomorrow, but like tennis grand slams, we can just update it then.Sportsnut24 (talk) 19:30, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Already covered by ongoing. 2A02:8071:6362:54A0:549B:15AE:60C8:4E6 (talk) 19:39, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Covered by ongoing item. Barring special significance, no single Olympic event rises to the level of a blurb imo. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:41, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Covered by ongoing per above, Editor 5426387 (talk) 23:31, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Antônio Meneses

Article: Antônio Meneses (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.thestrad.com/news/brazilian-cellist-antonio-meneses-dies-at-age-66/18411.article , https://concerto.com.br/noticias/musica-classica/morre-aos-66-anos-o-violoncelista-antonio-meneses , https://www.facebook.com/CelloMeneses/posts/pfbid044sM3nxYFCDj2TUcMoqzgY7RZntTqmiGG1pfKvaucJ43ncMDWLtebLy8UCcZwVV1l
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Zingarese (talk · give credit)
• Updated by CurryTime7-24 (talk · give credit) and Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: last paragraph of "career" (about discography) just needs a couple of little cites, which should take anyone 5-10 minutes with Google's help. Otherwise it should be good to go. Zingarese talk · contribs (please  mention me on reply; thanks!) 18:39, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

should be GTG now as far as citing is concerned. Let me know if there are any other problems. Zingarese talk · contribs (please  mention me on reply; thanks!) 20:05, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article looks to be of sufficient quality. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 19:44, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment I nominated, and only then saw "he" was already here: One of few great cellists of his generation, the cellist of the legendary Beaux Arts Trio. The article was already pretty detailed and sourced. There could be more about what music, and reviews. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:33, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 23:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

(Attention needed) 2024 Lido Beach attack

Article: 2024 Lido Beach attack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Al-Shabaab killed more than 20 people and injured dozens in an attack (pictured) on a popular spot in Mogadishu, Somalia. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Over 20 people were killed, and dozens were injured in an Al-Shabaab attack at Lido Beach, Mogadishu (pictured).
Alternative blurb II: ​ Al-Shabaab's deadly attack at Mogadishu's Lido Beach (pictured) leaves over 20 dead and dozens injured.
News source(s): Reuters AP
Credits:

• Nominated by QalasQalas (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: It's effectively capture the tragic event and the broader implications of Lido Beach Attack

• Neutral — You will need to demonstrate how this is a significant development in the Somali civil war. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 17:53, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Article is very not NPOV, and it's already in the current events portal under the civil war. Sharrdx (talk) 18:55, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

An article being featured in the current events portal has no bearing as to whether it should be posted as a blurb. Gödel2200 (talk) 19:31, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

• Weak Support I'm not wowed by the article quality but this appears to be a major terrorist incident with significant loss of life. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:26, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
• Weak oppose Grim as it sounds, both Timeline of al-Shabaab-related events and the sub-categories of Category:Terrorist incidents in Somalia in the 2020s indicate that attacks of this scale unfortunately don't seem to be uncommon events in Somalia, and the article doesn't really detail why it's especially significant compared any others. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:50, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

  @The Kip deadliest attack since 2022 Somali Ministry of Education bombings. QalasQalas (talk) 21:32, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

  I’m not sure if deadliest attack in under two years establishes unique significance. The Kip ^(contribs) 22:53, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

  Additionally as this is (as far as I can tell) the fourth attack at Lido Beach in as many years. Curbon7 (talk) 04:24, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

@ElijahPepe one of the dealiest attack. QalasQalas (talk) 23:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

• Weak Oppose The article only has two paragraphs on the attack itself, the rest being background and reactions. As The Kip said, these types of attacks seem to be relatively common in Somalia. Gödel2200 (talk) 15:28, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Significant attack with a significant loss of life. C F A 💬 21:05, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

  Leaning Oppose, obviously this is tragic but: 1. the article doesn't talk much about the attack, and 2. this seems to be a fairly common occurrence and not particularly notable in the war. Personisinsterest (talk) 19:35, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support with updated death toll (now over 40 people), significant attack. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 12:30, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

August 2

Portal:Current events/2024 August 2

August 2, 2024 (2024-08-02) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Somali civil war 2024 Lido Beach attack Thirty-eight people are killed and 212 others are injured in a mass shooting and suicide bombing by Al-Shabaab militants near the Beach View Hotel on Lido Beach in Mogadishu, Somalia. (Hiiraan Online) (Reuters) Iran–Israel proxy conflict 2024 Iran–Israel conflict, Israel–Hezbollah conflict Five Syrian migrant workers are killed in IDF strikes and shelling of Hezbollah targets in southern Lebanon.(Al Jazeera) Assassination of Ismail Haniyeh United States President Joe Biden deploys multiple U.S. military warships, troops, and other military assets to the Middle East to support Israel against potential attacks from Iran and its proxies. (Financial Times) (The Washington Post) Business and economy Unemployment in the United States Several global financial markets fall significantly, with the Dow Jones falling by 610 points after the United States Department of Labor reported that the unemployment rate increased to 4.3% in July, the highest since October 2021. (AP) Disasters and accidents At least 11 people are killed in a fire in a residential-commercial building in Manila, Philippines. (The Star) International relations 2024 Venezuelan presidential election, Argentina–Venezuela relations Argentina recognizes Edmundo González as President-elect of Venezuela, becoming the third country to do so after the United States and Peru. (AFP via Barron's) Law and crime 2024 United Kingdom riots Rioting occurs in Sunderland, England, United Kingdom, as hundreds of far-right protesters attempt to march on a mosque and clash with riot police in the city centre. A police station is set on fire by rioters. (BBC News) Censorship in Turkey Turkey blocks internet access to Instagram, following comments made by Turkish communications director Fahrettin Altun that condemned Meta Platforms for taking down Instagram posts offering condolences or expressing sorrow towards the assassination of Hamas political leader Ismail Haniyeh. (Reuters) Mass surveillance in the United Kingdom Several civil rights groups denounce proposals made by British Prime Minister Keir Starmer to grant British police nationalized live facial recognition technology and surveillance to charge people police consider significantly likely to participate in far-right riots, condemning the opportunism of the proposals, their potential racial and gender inaccuracy, and their possible use to target future legal protests. (The Guardian) A man is arrested by national police in Dublin, Ireland, following attacks on Government Buildings, The Custom House, and Áras an Uachtaráin. (RTÉ) Four men, including a police officer, are found shot to death near Cancún, Quintana Roo, Mexico. (AP) The United States Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission file a joint lawsuit against TikTok and its parent company ByteDance for violating a law prohibiting companies to collect and use personal information of children under the age of 13. (Reuters) Politics and elections End Bad Governance protests Protests against President Bola Tinubu's economic reforms continue across Nigeria, as security forces fire tear gas at protestors and the government orders curfews across several northern states. (Al Jazeera) Sports 2024 Summer Olympics Tennis at the 2024 Summer Olympics Novak Djokovic defeats Lorenzo Musetti to advance to the finals of the Men's singles tournament, becoming the only player to reach the finals four times, and the oldest finalist in Olympic tennis history. (ESPN) Carlos Alcaraz defeats Félix Auger-Aliassime to advance to the finals of the Men's singles tournament, becoming the youngest finalist in Olympic tennis history at 21 years old. (CBS News) Individual Neutral Athletes at the 2024 Summer Olympics Belarusian gymnast Ivan Litvinovich wins a gold medal in trampoline gymnastics, making him the first male neutral athlete to win a gold medal at the Summer Olympics. (CBS News)

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(Posted) RD: Galboda Gnanissara Thera

Article: Galboda Gnanissara Thera (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2024/08/02/ven-galboda-gnanissara-thera-of-gangaramaya-temple-passes-away/ http://island.lk/ven-galaboda-gnanissara-passes-away/ https://www.dailynews.lk/2024/08/06/local/602317/ven-galboda-gnanissara-thera-had-a-vision-for-the-country-merging-modernity-with-culture/
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• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

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Head priest and the chief incumbent of the Gangaramaya Temple in Colombo, Sri Lanka. 65.94.214.121 (talk) 05:14, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 00:19, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

August 1

Portal:Current events/2024 August 1

August 1, 2024 (2024-08-01) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip Siege of Gaza City At least fifteen Palestinians are killed and 29 others are injured in an Israeli strike on a school in the Shuja'iyya neighborhood of Gaza City. (Reuters) Israel claims to have verified that it killed Hamas military commander Mohammed Deif in an attack on al-Mawasi on July 13. Hamas denies the allegations. (The Washington Post) Iran–Israel proxy conflict 2024 Iran–Israel conflict, Israel–Hezbollah conflict Hezbollah fires dozens of Katyusha rockets at northern Israel.(The Times of India) Business and economy Intel announces plans to lay off 15% of its workforce in order to reduce its operating costs. (AP) Disasters and accidents 2024 Pacific typhoon season Typhoon Gaemi South Korea reports that as many as 1,500 people may have been killed by floods in North Korea caused by the remnants of Typhoon Gaemi. (Terra Daily) (Al Jazeera) 2024 India–Bangladesh floods At least 12 people are killed and more than 250 people are declared missing after heavy downpours and flooding in northern India, with rainfall amounts of up to 183 millimetres (7.2 in) reported in some areas. (Reuters) 2024 Wayanad landslides The death toll from the landslides caused by torrential rains in Kerala, India, increases to 296 people, with at least 240 others still missing. (Onomanorama) Health and environment Sudanese civil war 2024 Sudan famine The Global Famine Review Committee declares a famine in Darfur, Sudan, according to the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification. (Reuters) International relations 2024 Russian prisoner exchange, Germany–Russia relations, Russia–United States relations Russia and several Western nations, including Germany and the United States, conduct a major prisoner exchange mediated by Turkey, with ten prisoners being transferred to Russia, thirteen to Germany, and three to the United States. Journalist Evan Gershkovich, former marine Paul Whelan, and Russian opposition figure Vladimir Kara-Murza are among those freed. (AP) (Al Jazeera) China–India relations China and India conduct a 30th round of talks in New Delhi, India, to resolve their ongoing border disputes, agreeing to speed up negotiations over the disputes and to maintain peace and tranquility in border regions. (South China Morning Post) Moldova–Russia relations The Moldovan government expels a Russian diplomat from the country over alleged espionage. (The Moscow Times) Law and crime 2009 Guinean protests A criminal court in Guinea sentences former president and military leader Moussa Dadis Camara to 20 years in prison for crimes against humanity while suppressing an opposition rally in Conakry in 2009. (Al Jazeera) 2024 United Kingdom riots UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer addresses the nation following civil unrest in Southport, Hartlepool, and Whitehall, accusing the "far-right" of being behind the violence. Starmer also warns social media platforms to crackdown on misinformation. (The Guardian) Politics and elections End Bad Governance protests Fourteen protestors are killed, four are injured and at least 31 are arrested, including a journalist, during nationwide protests that turned violent in Nigeria amid a cost-of-living crisis, which protestors blame on President Bola Tinubu's new reforms. (Al Jazeera) Russia withdraws from the Framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities, originally established by the Council of Europe in 1995. (Ukrainska Pravda) Sports 2024 Summer Olympics Swimming at the 2024 Summer Olympics American swimmer Katie Ledecky wins her 13th Olympic medal in swimming, becoming the first American female to do so and the second American to do so after Michael Phelps. (The New York Times) Tennis at the 2024 Summer Olympics Novak Djokovic defeats Stefanos Tsitsipas to advance to the semifinals of the Men's singles tournament, becoming the only player to reach the semifinals four times, and the oldest semifinalist in Olympic tennis history. (Sports Illustrated)

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(Posted) RD: Jürgen Ahrend

Article: Jürgen Ahrend (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): De Volkskrant
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• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Influential internationally known organ builder, especially known for restoring Baroque organs such as Arp Schnitger's. The article was short in prose and detailed in list. Prose and referencing expanded. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:20, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support Master organ builder based in Germany. Article long enough and referenced. Grimes2 (talk) 15:54, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 21:49, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Craig Shakespeare

Article: Craig Shakespeare (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, ESPN, Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:D008:3BBC:2CAE:D4B9 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Unknown Temptation (talk · give credit) and Fats40boy11 (talk · give credit)

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English footballer and coach. 240F:7A:6253:1:D008:3BBC:2CAE:D4B9 (talk) 07:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose The Playing Career section could use more citations. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 19:42, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose playing career section needs a lot more citations. Better quality photo would be good too. The rest of the article is very good. Added cn tags to help. Abcmaxx (talk) 20:35, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Joyce Brabner

Article: Joyce Brabner (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Comicsbeat
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:A80D:4F7:9392:624C (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Mikeross22 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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American comic book writer. 240F:7A:6253:1:A80D:4F7:9392:624C (talk) 18:50, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose 2 cn tags and article is missing citations throughout. Also there are so many quotes in the article, which isn't a critical issue but makes the article's writing a bit weird. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 20:01, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

RD: Leonard Hayflick

Template:ITN candidate American cell biologist.

• Support The article has been improved considerably, and Hayflick's contributions to cell biology and vaccine development are very consequential. Stefan Economou (talk) 02:14, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Important guy, article seems fine

Personisinsterest (talk) 02:35, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

• There is a {lead too long} tag atop the wikipage. And there are multiple paragraphs with zero footnotes. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 16:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) American–Russian prisoner exchange

Template:ITN candidate

• Support once completed and the article is updated. This is reportedly the largest prisoner swap since the end of the Cold War [37]. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 14:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Highly important Personisinsterest (talk) 15:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Specifically the altblurb, and would support a free image of the prisoners being released if possible Personisinsterest (talk) 15:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support altblurb2 - The location of the swap (Ankara Airport) is not important. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 15:21, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on notability prisoner exchanges happen frequently and even amongst warring nations, I cannot see why this particular exchange is notable. Abcmaxx (talk) 15:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

  This is the largest since the Cold War,[38] and between two of the most powerful countries on earth Personisinsterest (talk) 15:51, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support as per Jessintime and Personisinterest. Prefer altblurb.yorkshiresky (talk) 15:59, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose both on significance and quality. Ignoring the descriptions of the exchanged persons, the article has like two paragraphs of material about the actual process, nowhere close to standards. Biggest the biggest since the Cold War is not how significance should be judged. Masem (t) 16:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

  How should it be judged then? ~~ Jessintime (talk) 17:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

  What impact does it have on US Russia relations or is this going to impact the situation in Ukraine or with NATO. This reads as a routine type of exchange outside of the number being made at one time. — Masem (t) 17:22, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

  Is it routine? I believe the last time this happened was 2022. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 20:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

  Two years ago seems routine to me. Masem (t) 21:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

  It is. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:12, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

  There is nothing routine about it. The scale, the preparation, the fact that seven countries participated, amount of prisoners exchanged and their weight and recognisability, connections to Navalny case. There are several people on the list whose getting to prison justified a blurb.

  Unprecedented is that a third country takes political prisoners who don't have any connection to it, among other things such as structure of this exchange.

  And how often are political prisoners exchanged. BilboBeggins (talk) 12:31, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

  First of all, what it has to do with Ukraine? It didn't participate in the exchange.

  Second, why does this item need to depend on events that are WP:CRYSTAL? How one can know what the impact will be? Some people say that this may lead to further negotiations, on a higher level, some say that it inferes thaw in relations, others are convinced in the opposite. But the important thing is that people discuss it and it is focus, it is in the news all over the world BilboBeggins (talk) 12:25, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose on notability and quality. Prisoner exchanges are common, and the article needs additional sources. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 03:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support obviously. Highly significant, as evidenced by the prominence of those exchanged. 2A02:8071:6362:54A0:549B:15AE:60C8:4E6 (talk) 16:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Apart from the Background section, there is almost no substance to this article. Yakikaki (talk) 16:39, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support in principle As noted, #Prisoner exchange needs expansion. Supporting on the merits as a noteworthy international relations story. I grant the systemic bias in this, but the cases of Evan Gershkovich and Paul Whelan (security director) are noteworthy in the U.S. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:42, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose both on significance and article quality per Masem and Abcmaxx. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support. Significant news and unique compared to other exchanges. Randam (talk) 17:28, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose, great for the families, extortion from the Russians for embarrassing the US. Also, don't link countries on the Main Page per MOS:OVERLINK. Abductive (reasoning) 17:42, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support. Globally significant (views to the contrary are baffling to me - the biggest prisoner exchange between two nuclear-armed, Permanent Five powers since the Cold War?). It also involves numerous other nations (Turkey was a mediator, some of the prisoners were from Germany, Poland, Slovenia, Norway, at least one prisoner was freed from Belarus). So this is a multilateral thing. Article quality seems there, and improving still. Neutrality^talk 18:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality as I'd like to see some expansion of the prose. Support on notability, though. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:47, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Masem makes a convincing argument. SerialNumber54129 19:27, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Masem. _-_Alsor (talk) 19:51, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The nomination presents this as a US initiative when it seems that Germany has the lion's share of the Western end of this. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:02, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

  Well yeah but it was a hostage deal between America and Russia Personisinsterest (talk) 20:28, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

  The news source given in the nomination presents it as a "Russia-West prisoner swap". The nomination then replaces West with America throughout. It's wrong. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

  The core element of the deal happening was in Germany serving life sentence. BilboBeggins (talk) 12:33, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

  The fact that the blurb is bad doesn't make this postable or not. Suggest a new blurb if you think it is inaccurate or unacceptable. Natg 19 (talk) 21:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

  The US exceptionalism and nationalism seems to permeate the article and nomination. See its talk page. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Let the record reflect that I comment on ITN most often to note U.S.-centric bias. I incorrectly assumed that the deal was between the U.S. and Russia at first, as well. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 01:27, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support The very sort of article we should be running; in the news and not so easy for readers to locate. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:39, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per Masem Hungry403 (talk) 21:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support on notability, oppose on quality. As others have mentioned, the details on the prisoner exchange itself are lacking in prose. The article should be expanded upon before the blurb is posted. ArkHyena (talk) 21:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability In fact, there is precedent to post these types of things; for instance, Brittney Griner's release was posted. And with this event having many more prisoners being exchanged than that one, this passes the bar of significance in my mind. Gödel2200 (talk) 00:08, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability, oppose all current blurb options. A better blurb may be something along the lines of Russia released western journalists/political prisoners in exchange for releasing criminals held in western countries. Or similar. My wording is crap. There isn't a clear good short wording for this. But I agree with others that the blurb should not place undue emphasis on the US, given that from my reading 7 western countries were involved in the discussions for this exchange. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 04:03, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

  Most biased ITN i have ever seen AlexBobCharles (talk) 07:52, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support This is huge, and many prominent politicians and journalists are involved. Trepang2 (talk) 04:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support Major prisoner exchange between major countries in the major power blocks in the Second Cold War, historical and highly notable. --Gerrit ^CUTEDH 06:22, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Comment. There weren't 26 people released, only 24, other two on the plane being kids whose parents were detained in Slovenia. Regarding the sides of exchange, altblurb3 is the correct one, because seven countries participated. Maybe it makes sense to mention Germany explicitly, because the most important contribution was by Germany and it has received all but three people of those who were sent to the West. BilboBeggins (talk) 12:19, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

• Comment The photo should not be posted as it would be pro-US bias . Altblurb 3 is the best one
  • The photo should be posted, it's the only group photo in public domain, no bias with photo. BilboBeggins (talk) 13:38, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

  I know , i meant for it be posted with no photo AlexBobCharles (talk) 15:39, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support blurb. The biggest prisoner exchange between West abd East since World War 2 [39]. In the news and analysed all over the world, the biggest news currently. The event is by no means trivial, as seven countries participated in swap, with Turkey serving as neutral party, and there were also difficulties in legal justification and abiding by law. This led to debate in Germany and may influence future of the governing coalition (because its members had varying opinions on thr issue). The situation is very complex and for sure there will be consequences, changes for bilateral relations between countries participating in the exchange, and more. BilboBeggins (talk) 13:47, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
• The article quality has improved considerably and the title has been changed in view of the discussion. I think the consensus has shifted to support? Let me see some more feedback, then ready to post. --Tone 15:09, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support. Probably the last big international event of the year unless war breaks out between Iran and Israel. Count Iblis (talk) 15:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

  -until war breaks out between Iran and Israel Personisinsterest (talk) 16:19, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support, in the news internationally and the article is in good shape. -- Tavix ^(talk) 16:25, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support highly notable and in relatively good quality, Editor 5426387 (talk) 16:28, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
• Posting. Feel free to add the picture. --Tone 17:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
  • I don't feel the quality concerns raised early have been sufficiently addressed. Take out the background and list of people, and you have almost nothing of substance here and less than what we would normally expect. All the claims how this is that significant should be then easy to source to explain that by those making those claims, not just handwaving that factor. I am not going to ask for it to be pulled, but we have to make sure that what we are posting represent some of WP's best work since we're highlighting it on the main page. --Masem (t) 17:46, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

    I agree. The posted blurb still emphasises the United States and treats the other countries involved as insignificant allies, i.e. puppets or stooges comparable with Belarus. This is not accurate or complete, as I understand it. The key prisoner was not Gershkovich, who is currently the primary focus of the article, but Krasikov who was the guy that Russia really wanted as he's a personal acquaintance or colleague of Putin. Krasikov was held by Germany and so their agreement was vital in getting the deal done. The Germans refused previously, holding out for a swap with Navalny and so it was his death that opened things up. The article doesn't explain this well and just seems to be cheer-leading for the US to make Biden and Harris look good. It comes across as blatant US propaganda. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:12, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

    If not for Germany, the swap wouldn't have happened. So I agree with you. As I mentioned before, I also have issue with 26 released. If by ghat we mean that they were on planes, then yes. But many may understand this as if all 26 were released from prison, which is not the case. BilboBeggins (talk) 18:27, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

    The blurb is now in play at WP:ERRORS so we have a multilateral situation. I just looked at the lead of the article and the only named people are Americans. The lead picture is American showing Americans and an American flag. There's then a section all about a particular American. The negotiations section then starts with a link to VP Harris. It's like the Simpsons when Homer chants USA! USA! But see WP:NPOV... Andrew🐉(talk) 18:57, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Gershkovich and Whelan were the only people initially confirmed. The image is the only public domain image pertaining to this. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

• Pull The article is nonsensically lop-sided. There's an entire massive paragraph about Gershkovich (why?), a paragraph about negotiations which should be titled "American negotiations", and the reactions section ... well, you get the picture. Practically nothing about Germany without who this wouldn't have happened at all. Black Kite (talk) 19:06, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

  The info from article in other languages may be added. BilboBeggins (talk) 09:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

• Pull The article is not ready for the main page, containing a fully unsourced background section. Gödel2200 (talk) 22:26, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment I've dealt with the copyvio problems but this has just left a lot of the article unsourced. Black Kite (talk) 10:06, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
• Post-posting support The article was put together pretty quickly given how fast the news developed. It can be continually improved. This is the largest prisoner exchange since the Cold War, possibly ever. Posting it was the right call. Pats2017 (talk) 00:31, 4 August 2024 (UTC)Pats2017 (talk)
  • There is no timeliness factor for ITN posting. Quality must be established before it is posted, and even at the current state, the substance of the article (the negotations of the trade) are barely discussed. --Masem (t) 00:35, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

    <<There is no timeiness factor for ITN posting>>

    Not my point. The point is that it's a huge story that people going to Wikipedia will look for. And as for quality, we of course want a high-quality article. As I said, it can always be revised and improved. But even if it can use improvement the magnitude of the story merits consideration for WP:IAR. The item has been posted and should remain so.Pats2017 (talk) 00:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)Pats2017

    Quality is a non-negotiable requirement for any article linked as a featured one from the Main Page, since those are supposed to represent some of WP's best work. We don't IAR quality for timeliness. And if readers aren't seeing a news story they thing might be in the ITN box, its why we also include the Current Events portal to help further while the article may be improved. --Masem (t) 01:10, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

    We've routinely put stories up before that weren't the best quality--we do it all the time for sporting events, award ceremonies, elections.

    You may disagree with me about what qualifies our "best work," but In The News always represents our best work that we could post in a timely manner, give that we have at most seven days before items become stale. There are always comments in the Talk Page about how an "article is good enough" to post (You can scroll down the current ITN Talk Page for at least three instances.)

    I can understand the case for Pulling an item that clearly doesn't meet ITN criteria on signficance (for example, the Beatles "new hit song" item that got posted and then--correctly imho--pulled a while back). But this is clearly a ITN-worthy item that affects at least seven nations and has a profound impact. The toothpaste is out of the tube. Pulling the item back at this point is silly. Pats2017 (talk) 01:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

    We do not post things like awards, sports results, or elections without the article being at least a reasonably complete state within the hours or days after that has completed. For new news events, there is a reasonable expectation of what could be included. For this prisoner trade, there are several articles (now? maybe not 24-48 hrs ago) that have significant deals - far more than what our current article's two paragraphs fail to properly summarize. That's the type of expection we want to those non-routine events. Same applies to disaster articles; we don't post until we know we have a sufficient amount of detail about the event itself. We're not expecting completeness, and things can change and be added after posting, but the initial post needs to be of a certain level that shows the article is trending towards meeting all core content policies and thus appropriate for an encyclopedia, not just regurgitating the news. For example, there's still what seems to be underselling of the Germany role in these negotiations, which makes this still an NPOV issue. --Masem (t) 02:12, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

    Fair point re:Germony, but it doesn't nullify my point that every article currently on the ITN board got the "article is good enough" seal of consensus on the Talk Page prior to posting. The prisoner swap article also needs improvement and will continue to be revised.

    Don't make perfect the enemy of good. There's no need to pull the article. Just keep working roward making it better. Pats2017 (talk) 02:28, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Assassination of Mohammed Deif

Template:ITN candidate

Wait, until more evidence comes out let’s hold off on posting. Dudes article has a few CN tags. Ion.want.uu (talk) 12:31, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

I mean, they said that on the first day. Seeing as there's no more evidence and that this is denied by Hamas, I don't think we can post this Personisinsterest (talk) 12:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Hamas has not confirmed or denied the death. We can wait until then to decide whether to post. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 13:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose as stale. The notable thing would be the death of Deif, not the announcement of his death. And, if the announcement is correct, he would have died weeks ago, so this would be stale. Also, as others have said, it is still not fully clear if he really was killed in the strike. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

  Template:Ping The timing and staleness of a news story are based on the date when the news was announced, which is not necessarily the date that something happened. Per ITN's procedural guidelines: Template:Tq Kurtis ^(talk) 23:33, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

• Merge into the blurb about Ismail Haniyeh. The staleness is not a big deal if the news is breaking now – see the entry for William Calley who died back in April. The strike on Fuad Shukr might be added too but he was Hezbollah rather than Hamas. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

  Eh, it's two different strikes and this one isn't even confirmed. Personisinsterest (talk) 15:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

  One was the political leader of Hamas and the other its main military leader and so they naturally complement each other. Both events still have some uncertainty about the details but so it goes. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:05, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb as worded. "Assassination" is a term used to denote an act of criminal murder and as such would be highly problematic per NPOV. I can't recall any incident where the killing of the military commander of an enemy with whom you are in a formal state of war was labeled as an assassination. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose as stale This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 17:44, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

  Template:Ping The timing and staleness of a news story are based on the date when the news was announced, which is not necessarily the date that something happened. Per ITN's procedural guidelines: Template:Tq Kurtis ^(talk) 23:35, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

  Even if rejected for blurb, this can still be posted as an RD. Curbon7 (talk) 23:44, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

• I disagree with the closure of this discussion, which I feel was done prematurely and based on erroneous reasoning. First, the news itself is not stale if it was just announced. As ITN's guidelines very clearly state: Template:Tq Therefore, Mohammed Deif's death is still breaking news, and still a viable candidate for a blurb. I also feel that the discussion was closed too hastily, as even if we don't approve a separate blurb, we might still incorporate it into the current blurb regarding the death of Ismail Haniyeh like Andrew Davidson suggests (which is what I would support). And although I think it's very helpful to have non-admins closing discussions, NACs should mostly be done in cases where the consensus is completely unambiguous and unlikely to change in the near future. In more complex cases, the closing party should have the full range of options available to them, which includes the ability to post it, or to modify an existing blurb. I'd re-open this discussion myself, but I'll leave the decision to other observers. Kurtis ^(talk) 23:03, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Reopened, this isn't stale as the announcement is recent. Stephen 23:05, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - it's an Israeli claim, not an established fact. nableezy - 23:47, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - stale. The Kip ^(contribs) 04:08, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

  Template:Ping How so? It was only recently announced. Kurtis ^(talk) 06:52, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

  There were conflicting reports on his death as early as the airstrike itself, which was weeks ago - this is just Israel formally staking a claim, which itself isn't entirely clear on veracity. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Hamas has still not confirmed his death AlexBobCharles (talk) 07:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose, It's just an israeli claim, and is denied by Hamas, there's no more evidence.--Dr-Taher (talk) 06:14, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Halla Tómasdóttir becomes president

Template:ITN candidate

Several things to comment. First, Iceland is a parliamentary republic and its head of state has no executive powers. Consequently, it is not ITNR. Secondly, I would wait for the official inauguration. And, thirdly, the presidential election was two months ago, so the main article cannot be the one about the election because it is stale and should be the one about Tómasdóttir. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:49, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

For some reason I got the months wrong. Amended now. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:53, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

thanks! The problem now is that it's a short biography. The articles in Icelandic and Italian have more content with sources. The articles may help to expand on this. _-_Alsor (talk) 11:03, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose we didn't include the Icelandic election, therefore we shouldn't include the swearing in. Scu ba (talk) 11:22, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Actually if we missed the Icelandic elections this is a good opportunity to remedy this and post. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Correct. _-_Alsor (talk) 12:56, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

No. We didn’t miss the Icelandic election. It was put up as a cannidate. The result of the discussion was to not post it since 1) it’s Iceland and 2) the office of president is ceremonial and 3) we haven’t posted an Icelandic presidential election before. Scu ba (talk) 13:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of the previous discussion but none of those seem like a good reason on their own to oppose: 1. Iceland is a fully sovereign state, and isn't a micronation by any means; its relatively small population should not really be a discriminating factor. 2. It's ceremonial in many states, and the president is still a representative of the nation with political influence 3. That does not mean it cannot ever be posted. Abcmaxx (talk) 15:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Don't get me wrong, I agree, Iceland's results should've been included in the news, but it wasn't. We don't include swearing ins so we shouldn't break precedent here. Scu ba (talk) 16:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Support to compensate for missing the Icelandic election, as per Abcmaxx. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 15:14, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose for now as Halla Tómasdóttir is a stub. Willing to reconsider if expanded. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:22, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on both quality and notability; the main article is a stub and the office is largely ceremonial, with little impact. Yakikaki (talk) 16:48, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
• Support since we missed the election, pending improvements (including finding a picture) This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 17:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose, wait for inauguration Personisinsterest (talk) 19:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose -- not ITNR. President of Iceland is ceremonial and has no power. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 10:08, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The president of Iceland does have some executive powers, though I think we should only be posting the prime minister. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:13, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)