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If I declined your draft at AfC, and you came to ask me to re-review it, please don't (unless I expressly said you could) – I feel it's fairer to the other drafts that yours goes back to the pool... and probably also fairer to your draft that someone else reviews it next. (And if you just came to tell me you've made changes, that's great, but no need to inform me.)

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Eevela Newspaper Rejection

Sir,

As the newspaper is local paper, It was not mentioned in Major newspapers.

I have provided Complete database of ePaper as facebook page.

Kindly Consider to add this. This is becoming genuine and Reliable source in our City. Srinivasrjy (talk) 11:14, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This subject, like every other one, has to be shown to be notable. Your draft cites three sources, none of which contributes anything towards notability. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:34, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Interviews as sources

During a recent back and forth at WP:AFC I quoted the mantra that "interviews are not reliable, independent sources" when I was questioned about this I couldn't actually find any guidelines to back this up. WP:IS doesn't mention this. Any suggestions? Theroadislong (talk) 08:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Theroadislong: I think interviews are like the subject's own website, etc. – it's the subject saying what they want to say about themselves, and how they want to say it. So not independent, and not necessary reliable as most sources (even RS ones) don't apply fact-checking to live interviews. Therefore can be used to support non-contentious factual information, but nothing more than that, and doesn't contribute towards notability. That's my understanding of it, at any rate. I don't know if any actual policy says that about interviews explicitly, but I think it's very much implied.

I'm surprised if someone's given you heat over this – was it someone 'authoritative'? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:25, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes that was my understanding too. it was User PJRHawkeye and Draft:Molly Brown (American actress). Theroadislong (talk) 16:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PS: Found this WP:INTERVIEWS. It's only an essay, but may be useful here. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:27, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes that's helpful thank you! Theroadislong (talk) 16:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Theroadislong the policy is OR, specifically primary and mention of interviews is buried in note d, but I roll it up under "insider's view". S0091 (talk) 17:45, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@S0091: well done for finding that, although someone clearly worked hard to hide it! It's slightly odd, though... "primary" I get, and your "insider's view" makes sense, but OR isn't one that I would have tagged it as. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:00, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I'm surprised it is well tucked away too, perhaps it needs to be lifted from the undergrowth and given better emphasis? Theroadislong (talk) 18:05, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Interviews are tricky because they can be RS and satisfy V (like other primary sources). I think it's not prominently mentioned because of the trickiness as they are often both primary and secondary. What bothers me more about primary is it makes it sound like it only pertains to accounts written by an insider, which is not true. I think a more accurate statement would be what an insider has written or said, regardless of the publisher is primary. It hints at it with #1 which is too vague but most of Wikipedia's PAGs are vague. I mean what is SIGCOV? Based on the guideline it is needs to be more than a mention and that book about the topic meets SIGCOV. S0091 (talk) 18:50, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft categories

In this edit of Draft:Narendra Bhooshan, why did you bracket {{Draft categories}} with another {{Draft categories}}? —Anomalocaris (talk) 08:28, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Anomalocaris: I didn't, that was done automatically when I moved it to drafts. I'm guessing the script doesn't check if that's been done already (this was previously draftified), and just goes ahead and does it anyway. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:32, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MY ARTICLES

HI, CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THE OTHER ARTICLE ALSO THEY DON'T GET DECLINED. 2405:201:5005:68E2:1D82:2ABC:79AC:440C (talk) 05:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've no idea what "other article" you're referring to, as you don't link to it, and this message seems to be your only edit from this IP address. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:05, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Christopher McDonald (booking agent)

Well, that took longer than I thought! I have left a comment at the AfD. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 14:17, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is going to be as protracted as the review process. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:20, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Timtrent: well knock me over with a feather! -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:28, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect it will arrive back in Draft. Yawn. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:57, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

got declined!

Hey, could you let me know what to fix, my article was draft:abdul mazid photo. I provided all necessary citations and made sure to primarily speak in a neutral tone. Manghrat123 (talk) 15:43, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Manghrat123: please read the decline notice, including following all the links therein; they explain the reasons.

In case you're disputing the need for inline citations on the basis that the subject is no longer a living person, then the reason for that is that per WP:BDP, recently-deceased persons are still subject to the referencing requirements set out in WP:BLP. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Manghrat123 (talk page watcher) please do not decorate drafts or articles with photographs you have found on the internet. This one is a copyright violation, and is being handled on Commons. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:04, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

it's not from the internet, it's originally from his campaign in 2019.

https://www.observerbd.com/news.php?id=185397

He's deceased but we have his approval from years ago to use this. Manghrat123 (talk) 17:15, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

307th article review

Hello, I hope you are doing well. I am reaching out to ask if you would be willing to take a look at my pending article for the 307th engineer battalion again and provide feedback. Let me know if you have any questions - thank you again for your comments on my last submission. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:307th_Engineer_Battalion Water1968 (talk) 12:00, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 :In case you're disputing the need for inline citations on the basis that the subject is no longer a living person, then the reason for that is that per [[WP:BDP]], recently-deceased persons are still subject to the referencing requirements set out in [[WP:BLP]]. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing#top|talk]]) 15:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
 ::@[[User:Manghrat123|Manghrat123]] {{tpw}} please do not decorate drafts or articles with photographs you have found on the internet. This one is a copyright violation, and is being handled on Commons. 🇺🇦&nbsp;[[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk&nbsp;to&nbsp;me</small></sup>]]&nbsp;🇺🇦 17:04, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
+:::it's not from the internet, it's originally from his campaign in 2019.
+:::https://www.observerbd.com/news.php?id=185397
+:::He's deceased but we have his approval from years ago to use this. [[User:Manghrat123|Manghrat123]] ([[User talk:Manghrat123|talk]]) 17:15, 4 August 2024 (UTC)