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== In the interest of transparency… ==

I should probably mention that Patient Zero has been my username since 2016, not 2014, as I underwent a rename! But I do appreciate your rapid closing of that thread and the way that you dealt with the matter. :-) [[User:Patient Zero|'''Patient Zero''']]<sup>[[User talk:Patient Zero|'''talk''']]</sup> 21:31, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_(650%E2%80%93721)&diff=prev&oldid=589810410]? --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 21:32, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
: {{ping|Patient Zero}} Oh, and congrats on being the first human to post on this talk page this year :) --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 21:33, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
::My username back then was Chesnaught555, and my first edit to Wikipedia was to clarify what that Pokémon’s signature move was! 14-year-old me was quite the fan of the franchise… I still use the same account, but I had it renamed to Patient Zero in 2016. And thank you! That’s an honour :-) [[User:Patient Zero|'''Patient Zero''']]<sup>[[User talk:Patient Zero|'''talk''']]</sup> 21:39, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
== CS1 error on [[Sonia Furstenau]] ==
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== ''[[Extra Ordinary Man]]'' ==

I added cast members based on the film's end credits. [[User:DareshMohan|DareshMohan]] ([[User talk:DareshMohan|talk]]) 01:16, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
: {{ping|DareshMohan}} I'm sure you did. You are among a great many editors who keep trying to add and/or change the order of actors in a cast in South Asian films. This has been going on for more than ten years, and has become highly disruptive. You'll change it, and soon enough someone will come along and change it to their preferred version. Over and over and over and over and over again this happens. Did you know there are frequently different versions of a film based on where it is distributed to? What ''you'' saw is not what someone else will necessarily see. If you're going to change the case, then please...PLEASE...find [[WP:RS|reliable]], [[WP:SECONDARY|secondary sources]] to support the change. That's really your only chance for your preferred version to remain the accepted version. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 01:21, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
: {{ping|DareshMohan}} and I have undone your edit again. Provide a reliable, secondary source. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 01:22, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
::Per [[WP:FILMCAST]], we order cast members based on the credits or any official source. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">[[User:Kailash29792|<b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b>]] [[User talk:Kailash29792|<span style="color: black;">(talk)</span>]] </span> 14:00, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
::: {{ping|Kailash29792}} Hey that's great! Ok, which release of a given film would you like to use? Which one is authoritative? The film gets released in one region, it has one order. It gets released in another, it gets another order. So, which one? It's not enough to say put it in order the film puts it in. Barring consensus on what is considered the authoritative version (and we'd need proof of that via [[WP:RS]]), then [[WP:NOCON]] sustains. I.e., we keep it the way it was. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 15:51, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
::::I do not think American films have different credits orders by region... within the same nation! But if there are changes made for other English speaking nations, we still go by the de facto, ie the country the film was produced in. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">[[User:Kailash29792|<b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b>]] [[User talk:Kailash29792|<span style="color: black;">(talk)</span>]] </span> 16:00, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
::::: I am referring to South Asian films. Within that sphere, it is common for different regional releases to have different cast orders. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 16:23, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Indian films even with overseas DVDs maintain the same print so the cast order doesn't change. Can you show an example where the order changed? [[User:DareshMohan|DareshMohan]] ([[User talk:DareshMohan|talk]]) 17:38, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
::::::::See the various threads regarding cast order changes at [[Talk:Twenty:20 (film)]]. That's as good a primer on this subject as anything. I've seen similar disputes on the IMDB community forum as well. The constant changes in cast order is highly disruptive. When does it end? Why...WHY...does it matter so much that people have to keep changing it? As an example, see the IMDB entry for this movie's cast. It claims it's in credits order [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt23846664/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm]. Except, their credits order doesn't agree with what's here. On YouTube, Aditya Music India (who has rights to the music so should have some authority) shows a different cast order [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnO4cOx_wFQ]. So, whose credits order is right? And on it goes. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 18:28, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
::Okay that film is an ''extreme'' multistarrer. I guess your right. Saying that the Aditya Music one matches the end credits is original research. [[User:DareshMohan|DareshMohan]] ([[User talk:DareshMohan|talk]]) 02:30, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
::: Saying that any of them is authoritative over another is as well. That's one of the many reasons this cast order business keeps happening over and over and over and over again. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 02:32, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

== Message from yesterday regarding edit ==

: @[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] You messaged me yesterday regarding an edit I made to [[Richard Sands (businessman)]]. I'm new to Wikipedia but was looking to correct an error that I found. Would any of these articles be sufficient for you to change it back to Jennifer Burns or just to Jennifer (as opposed to removing his wife's name entirely which another user did last night)? I could not find a way to add citations to the info box that I tried to edit. Thanks for any help you can provide!
: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/17/realestate/with-five-children-and-eight-grandchildren-the-nest-wasnt-empty.html
: https://www.rit.edu/news/sands-studios-dedicated (see picture caption)
: https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/fltimes/name/marilyn-sands-obituary?id=35666661

[[User:Lreg4414|Lreg4414]] ([[User talk:Lreg4414|talk]]) 16:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|Lreg4414}} First, welcome! You're doing fine. Nobody expects you to be an expert! As to the sources, none of those sources indicate a name other than "Jennifer Burns" (well, I couldn't read all of the NYT source as it's behind a paywall). Could you add "Jennifer"? Yes. Add a maiden name based on those sources? No. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 16:31, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] Thank you! That makes sense. Could you let me know how to add a citation to the info box so the change gets approved or is that something that you are able to do as an administrator? [[User:Lreg4414|Lreg4414]] ([[User talk:Lreg4414|talk]]) 16:39, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
::::In your editing window, there is a link in the upper bar that says "Cite". Click on that, then in the left drop down menus where it says "Template", select "cite web". In the resulting pop up box, paste the URL of the citation into the URL box and click on the magnifying glass to the right of it. That will populate some fields of the template (not all; it depends on the website being used and how compliant they are with markup standards). Click on the little calendar to the right of "Access date" to add today's date. Click "insert", and the citation is added to the text you're wanting to support. More help is available at [[Wikipedia:Citing sources]]. You don't have to be an administrator to edit things here, including adding citations. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 16:52, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

== Disney ==
That may well be one of our returning nuisances. Thanks for taking care of it; I upped the blocks as CU-confirmed. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 18:26, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:Very well could be. I figured it was an attack name when I saw it while patrolling the user creation log. Their edit confirmed it. I probably should have blocked on sight. Oh well. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 04:01, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

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== February music ==
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Today I am happy about [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#7 Feb|a singer]] on [[Wikipedia:Main Page history/2024 February 7|the Main page]] (at least for the first hours), after [[Wikipedia:Main Page history/2023 February 7|TFA the same day last year]]. -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:15, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

[[User talk:Gerda Arendt#ITN recognition for Seiji Ozawa|Thanks]] to [[Seiji Ozawa]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:55, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

The image, taken on a cemetery last year after the funeral of a distant but dear family member, commemorates today, with thanks for their achievements, four subjects mentioned on the Main page and [[User talk:Vami IV#Rose of missing|Vami_IV]], a friend here. Listen to [[Music of Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky|music by Tchaikovsky]] (an article where [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Milashkina|one of the four]] is pictured), [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogfi4R0529Q sung by today's subject] (whose performance on stage I enjoyed two days ago). --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:10, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
:I think of family as not being defined by either physical or genetic distance, but rather emotional distance. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 17:11, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
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:: Good. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 09:18, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
:: Listen to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMuIv3ocl0Q music from Ukraine] if you like, - I [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2022#November|heard it in 2022]], and the November concert (at a different church) raised a truckload of winter clothes. My story today is also from my life: I heard the singer in 3 of the 4 mentioned musical items. I [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#23 Feb|sang in yesterday's]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:41, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
:: more music and flowers on [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#29 Feb|Rossini's rare birthday]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:32, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

== [[Sean Taylor]] ==

Thanks for [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sean_Taylor&diff=1204997746&oldid=1204997348 this revert] but the editor, previously an IP, made [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sean_Taylor&diff=prev&oldid=1204994883 earlier changes] that didn't get reverted – I can't because I'm at 3RR. Would you be willing to? [[Special:Contributions/81.187.192.168|81.187.192.168]] ([[User talk:81.187.192.168|talk]]) 15:55, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
:I've reverted it to stable, prior to all the revisionist changes. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 16:05, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

== Hello, Hammersoft. ==

This is the last time I’m trying, if this isn’t good enough, then Wikipedia isn’t for me, could you please look at my draft? [[Draft:Benji Krol]] if there are any small errors, please just help me and fix them instead of declining it. [[User:Joshbanana|Joshbanana]] ([[User talk:Joshbanana|talk]]) 04:16, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Joshbanana}} I've done some clean up on it, cleaning up section heads per [[WP:MOS]], adding a section head for references, correcting a minor typo, removing birthdate per [[WP:DOB]] (no reliable secondary source supporting it), and re-added the afc submission base template. I also removed four references to International Business Times, as this source is not considered reliable. See [[WP:IBTIMES]]. I'm not going to review it for acceptability as an article, as I find I am biased against the subject given the history of this draft production. It would not be fair for me to assess it. It is, at least, in better shape than it was. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 13:34, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

== Indian Online Classes ==
<small>(ref: [[Draft:INDIAN ONLINE CLASSES]]), {{user|13iehpatel}})</small>

While patrolling the recent changes feed, I noticed that user who created this draft twice has now recreated it again. [[User:Flux55|&#39;&#39;Flux55&#39;&#39;]] ([[User talk:Flux55|talk]]) 14:40, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Flux55}} Deleted, [[WP:SALT|salted]] since it's been created in essentially the same form and deleted three times, and [[User_talk:13iehpatel#Advertising_on_Wikipedia|editor warned]]. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 16:22, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

== Admin action requested ==

Greetings. {{noping|Jamarr81}} is back to blatant sockpuppetry [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Masculism&diff=prev&oldid=1209196175 here]. They [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rramaj18&diff=prev&oldid=1209199254 don't even try] to hide it. Thanks. —[[User:Sangdeboeuf|Sangdeboeuf]] ([[User talk:Sangdeboeuf|talk]]) 07:58, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Sangdeboeuf}} Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I've tagged the sock, blocked the sockmaster indefinitely, and placed an explanatory note on their talk page. Thanks, --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 14:03, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
::Hi Hammersoft. This was a confirmed [[joe-job]].[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3ARramaj18] I'd encourage you to reverse these actions. Thanks. -- [[user:zzuuzz|zzuuzz]] <sup>[[user_talk:zzuuzz|(talk)]]</sup> 09:21, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
:::Forgive me, but I don't understand what it is you want me to do. If there's some admin action you think should be taken in regards to my admin actions, please feel free to do so. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 10:56, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
::::Um, I was asking you to reverse the actions. Sorry if I was unclear, and more apologies if what I'm about to say is checkuser-xplaining. Technical evidence makes it clear that {{userblock|Rramaj18}} was an account created and operated by {{userblock|Architect 134}}, an LTA and troll, in order to trick administrators into blocking {{userblock|Jamarr81}}, indefinitely, for something Jamarr81 did not do. The complaint above by [[User:Sangdeboeuf|Sangdeboeuf]] was reporting a deception. Your action in extending the block was based on a false premise. There's no blame to be assigned here, as Architect 134 has trolled many others before and they're pretty good at it. However you have been trolled, blocking Jamarr81 for "Abusing multiple accounts" is a mistake, and I'm asking you to fix your mistake in light of the new facts. I've pointed out many other joe-jobs to many other admins before, and they've always been happy to learn from it, undo the troll's work, and correct the record. Thanks. -- [[user:zzuuzz|zzuuzz]] <sup>[[user_talk:zzuuzz|(talk)]]</sup> 11:36, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
::::: Well, I don't feel I've been trolled. I'm not going to give them that recognition. If they want to waste their lives doing stuff like that, so be it. Thanks for telling me about it. I'll clear the block. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 23:55, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
::::::Thanks. -- [[user:zzuuzz|zzuuzz]] <sup>[[user_talk:zzuuzz|(talk)]]</sup> 02:24, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

== Another admin action requested ==

Hi, I noticed you blocked the user I reported to UAA. There was another user in the log that was created by the same user with an offensive username. Both offensive summaries were the same. Could you revdel? Thank you. [[User:ClumsyOwlet|ClumsyOwlet]] ([[User talk:ClumsyOwlet|talk]]) 20:55, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
:I picked up on that username not from UAA but from the user creation log. I did see the other two. The other two are not inherently problematic with regards to the username policy. I will continue to monitor. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 21:47, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
::The summary in the User creation log probably is, though. [[User:ClumsyOwlet|ClumsyOwlet]] ([[User talk:ClumsyOwlet|talk]]) 21:55, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
:::Done. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 04:13, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

== Administrators' newsletter – March 2024 ==

[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (February 2024).

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== Continued edit warring on [[Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh]] ==

In spite of your clear warning to not edit war, {{No ping2|Brusquedandelion}} has again [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rashtriya_Swayamsevak_Sangh&diff=prev&oldid=1212922043 added the label of "Far right"] that they had been edit warring for prior to your full protection of the page. They have been edit warring for it for quite some time previously [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rashtriya_Swayamsevak_Sangh&diff=prev&oldid=1209301916] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rashtriya_Swayamsevak_Sangh&diff=prev&oldid=1211614840] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rashtriya_Swayamsevak_Sangh&diff=prev&oldid=1211721276] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rashtriya_Swayamsevak_Sangh&diff=prev&oldid=1211804942] and dont seem to have any intention of stopping after multiple warnings from multiple users. Please do look into it. Thanks, [[User:CapnJackSp|Captain Jack Sparrow]] ([[User talk:CapnJackSp|talk]]) 19:24, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
:Looking at the article history, there have been multiple times when it's been referred to as right wing and as far right. Right now the article disagrees with itself with the lede and the categorization. There doesn't seem to be a consensus one way or another as to how to label this organization. That's not a ticket to edit war. If you can find sources supporting it being "right wing" as opposed to "far right", then produce them on the talk page and try to work it out. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 20:25, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
::Im not sure if I understood this correctly, or if I explained myself correctly. Are you saying its okay for them to continue edit warring to introduce the contentious label they want (on which a TP section is open where they dont have consensus)? And FWIW, I have raised sources on TP, they have continued edit warring despite that. [[User:CapnJackSp|Captain Jack Sparrow]] ([[User talk:CapnJackSp|talk]]) 17:37, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
:::I have never said it's ok for ANYone to edit war. I am asking for people to seek and get consensus. From what I can see from the article history, there IS NO CONSENSUS at all on what to label the group. Nobody is more right than anyone else. Follow [[WP:DR]] if you are not satisfied. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 01:40, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
::::They've just continued their edit war, no? They reverted to their preferred version after you explicitly said that edit warring would lead to a block. I just want to confirm again, are you saying that<br>1) You don't find an issue with their edit highlighted<br>2) The onus is now on those seeking to remove the claim of "far right", and not on those inserting it<br>Because to the best of my understanding, our policy would say no, but the way I understood your responses that's effectively the advice here.
::::If there is no action (not even a revert on their reintroduction for which they know they lack consensus) we are effectively encouraging their edit warring. Simultaneously, it is also wrong if instead of following [[WP:Onus]] and [[Wikipedia:ECREE]], I have to go and disprove their exceptional claim (or seek DR). If you agree that there is no consensus to assign the label of far right, then obviously the exceptional label shouldn't be there. I know I might have sounded a bit rude, but I'm very perplexed by your handling of this.[[User:CapnJackSp|Captain Jack Sparrow]] ([[User talk:CapnJackSp|talk]]) 03:48, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
::::: What you're asking me to do is to assert that the correct answer is not to label the group as far right. The person you are in disagreement with I am sure would be very happy to assert that labeling them as far right is the correct answer ({{ping|Brusquedandelion}} correct me if I'm wrong). My job isn't to assert what the correct answer is. My job is to stop disruption to the article. As I've noted, I've looked at the history of the article. There is no answer that is the consensus answer. Changing it to say it's not far right isn't any more right than changing it to say it IS far right. There is no correct answer from the material provided. There is no point in the article's history to go back to and assert as "stable" until such time as a consensus to change it exists. I'm happy to be convinced otherwise. Asserting they are wrong and you are right isn't a sufficient answer to that. I'm not going to start issuing blocks because one or the other party isn't happy with the state of the article. So let's just trial this out, ok? You're asking me to block Brusquedandelion from the article. Let's say I do that. After they do that, you go and change the article to your preferred version. Since there's no consensus, I would then be obligated to block you from the article. Move into the future, two more people change it back and forth, so I block them from the article. Repeat ad nauseum. It would never end. It's NOT an answer to the disruption. Find a better answer. Come up with sources that prove one side is right over the other. If you can't do that, then come up with compromise wording that everybody is dissatisfied with (since being satisfied is unlikely to happen). --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 10:14, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::Its not relevant what is "correct" here. What is relevant is that you told all of us to not edit war or else you would be issuing blocks, but youre now telling me that someone can happily continue with their edit warring and you wont do anything about it. {{pb}}Anyway, that does clear up the confusion. Im not happy with your descision, and IMO its a wrong way to treat disputes, but it does clear the confusion.(In my opinion, it amounts to encouraging disruption. If you justify edit warring by placing the onus for consensus and burden of proof on the constructive editors, it makes it pointless for anyone to actually bother discussing. Far easier to just edit war for their preferred version and then stonewall on the TP) [[User:CapnJackSp|Captain Jack Sparrow]] ([[User talk:CapnJackSp|talk]]) 17:25, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::: {{ping|CapnJackSp}} I'm unclear as to what I can do to explain this further to you. Likely from my own gross incompetence, I have been completely unable to convey to you what the situation is and how to resolve it. From my chair, my interpretation of what you're saying is that I am somehow condoning edit warring, and I've taken a position supporting the group as far right. I've done neither, but my woeful capabilities have proven incapable of expressing that I've not done this. Since I am so obviously incompetent, I strongly encourage you to take just one piece of advice from me, since the rest of what I have said is utter gibberish; go to [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution]]. Your answers lie there. Thank you, --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 17:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::My intent was not to insult, but to express my frustration with something I find unjustifiable. What you said wasnt "gibberish" or anything, but it was essentially the chamberlain way - advising to avoid conflict even if the other side is patently edit warring. It has never worked.{{pb}}Theres nothing to explain, I got your point. The reason for writing my post was to just leave my opinion on this clear, since I did not agree with the point you were making. Anyway, I hope you got what I mean. [[User:CapnJackSp|Captain Jack Sparrow]] ([[User talk:CapnJackSp|talk]]) 17:39, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::: Comparing my methods to Chamberlain is not lost on me as I am student of history. I find such comparisons to be insulting, not least of which is it essentially assigns people you disagree with in this dispute as being Hitlers. It is perhaps ironic that this is over a "far right" designation. Yeah, I get what you mean. I'm not doing what you think I should be doing. From my chair, I'm doing ''exactly'' what I need to be doing. I am not going to take sides in this conflict, no matter how incompetent you or I think I am. It's not going to happen. I will say it one more time and drop this conversation; if you don't like what I'm doing, then your salvation lies at [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution]]. If you're not willing to do that, then please... please... [[Wikipedia:Drop the stick and back slowly away from the horse carcass|drop it]]. I concur with ARoseWolf below. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 18:57, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::Once again, there is an open discussion about this, open for more than a week now mind you, which you refuse to engage with. [[User:Brusquedandelion|Brusquedandelion]] ([[User talk:Brusquedandelion|talk]]) 00:14, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
:As Hammersoft has already pointed out, the article already refers to the organization as far-right, long before I ever touched the article, and there has been a general consensus that the body of the article, as well as the categorization, should refer it to as such. I did not touch the first sentence in my recent edits. The categorization has been this way forever, and it has been the consensus to keep it that way. Please don't confuse the issue of European Fascist influence with the categorization issue; K3 and you have unfortunately managed to piggy back the categorization change with the latter issue, where there actually is contention, but these are separate issues. Anyways, there is an open discussion about this on the Talk Page; as Hammersoft says, if you have reliable sources arguing the RSS is not far right, please discuss there. I have provided a veritable laundry list of sources indicating that the organization is, in fact, (referred to as) far right (by numerous reliable sources). I have received no response for close to a week now. [[User:Brusquedandelion|Brusquedandelion]] ([[User talk:Brusquedandelion|talk]]) 10:21, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
{{tps}} Just following this from a distance but wanted to weigh in some thoughts. An edit war is not started until until there are two reverts to a change. While BRD is not the end all to how content disputes are resolved it is the framework for how best to resolve. There was a bold change. There was a reversion. There has to be, at some point, discussion. The fact that there was another reversion was the initial "salvo" in the edit war. No fault, at that point, can be placed on the opposite side. However, when it was reverted again the other side became equally at fault. While it does not take two to initiate an edit war it takes two or more to continue it so if an edit war continues at the article that means there are two sides, not editors, continuing to revert each other. As an intervening uninvolved administrator, Hammersoft, can not enter it with the approach of determining which side is correct but how best to stop the disruption (edit war) and that can involve issuing warning's to both sides up to temporary blocks to cool the situation. I don't see where Hammersoft has condoned any edit warring and I think it would be best for both sides in this to heed his advice to seek some form of proper dispute resolution before sanctions are handed down. --[[User:ARoseWolf|<span style="color:#b76e79">'''A'''</span><span style="color:#be4f60">'''Rose'''</span>]][[User talk:ARoseWolf|<span style="color:#b87333">'''Wolf'''</span>]] 17:58, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

== [[User:Ballsdecexalt]] ==

Hi

Regarding a user that you blocked. Would you consider removing their talk page access as they are abusing their own talk page.

Thanks - [[User:TLJ7863|TLJ7863]] ([[User talk:TLJ7863|talk]]) 03:07, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|TLJ7863}} Done. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 03:18, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

== How do I add custom badges on profile ==

@[[user:hammersoft|hammersoft]] how do I add custom badges on my profile like the this user is from and this user visited? --[[user:paytonisboss|paytonisboss]] ([[user talk:paytonisboss|talk]]) <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 14:16, 11 March 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{tps|br}} {{replyto|paytonisboss}} You can find a bunch of templates at [[:Category:Wikipedians by location]]. Using the categories listed at the bottom you can navigate to other templates regarding who you are. <span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:copperplate gothic;">[[User:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">Chris Troutman</span>]] ([[User talk:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">talk</span>]])</span></span> 14:22, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|paytonisboss}} Honestly, heck if I know. If you see my userpage, I obviously don't use that stuff :) A potential place to start: [[Wikipedia:Userboxes]]. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 17:00, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you bro I appreciate the information [[User:Paytonisboss|Paytonisboss]] ([[User talk:Paytonisboss|talk]]) 12:47, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

== Sockpuppet to be blocked ==

Hi, I see that you blocked my dear friend (irony) Piermark. Can you do the honours to the other dirty sock? [[User:EWTN Eternal Word Television Network 5817 Old Leeds Rd. Irondale, AL 35210]]

Thanks! [[User:Kirham|Kirham]] ([[User talk:Kirham|talk]]) 02:41, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
:action/message passed each other in transit. Already blocked. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 13:01, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for blocking [[User:Communitypitisan]]. I was just about to submit an SPI report but noticed you had already blocked them in the meantime. – [[User:DreamRimmer|<b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b>]] ('''[[User talk:DreamRimmer|talk]]''') 13:50, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
:Yeah, I have some familiarity with them. I was just trying to get my ducks in a row to make sure. Sorry it took a bit. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 13:51, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
::I think they belongs to [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ramkripalyadavgeo]]. – [[User:DreamRimmer|<b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b>]] ('''[[User talk:DreamRimmer|talk]]''') 13:55, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Probably. I'll untangle it later. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 13:56, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Looking into it, yeah it's possible but I'm not 100% convinced. Let me know if you see anything else supporting this. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 14:31, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
::::The page they were requesting to create for [[Ramkripalyadavg]] is about the same person and was previously created by socks of this case on both the English and Hindi Wikipedia. I'm aware of this because I've reported these socks multiple times on the Hindi Wikipedia. – [[User:DreamRimmer|<b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b>]] ('''[[User talk:DreamRimmer|talk]]''') 14:38, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, I'm aware of it too and have been involved in it since last year. I'm just not 100% convinced on behavior it's the same person. It doesn't really matter; they're all blocked anyway. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 15:28, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::No problem at all. It's possible I made a mistake there. Thank you for taking the time to help. – [[User:DreamRimmer|<b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b>]] ('''[[User talk:DreamRimmer|talk]]''') 15:33, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
{{ping|DreamRimmer}} I'm curious; why aren't you an administrator? I did a very cursory review of your editing history, and it seems like you might be well qualified. Interested? If so, I can dig into your contribs deeper and give you some more complete feedback. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 13:56, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
:I have no plans for an RFA for now, maybe after six months, but I would appreciate your feedback. – [[User:DreamRimmer|<b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b>]] ('''[[User talk:DreamRimmer|talk]]''') 14:03, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
::Ok I'll take a deeper look. But, I'll need some days/week. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 14:04, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
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== Administrators' newsletter – April 2024 ==

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* An [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: Converting all current and future community discretionary sanctions to (community designated) contentious topics procedure|RfC]] is open to convert all current and future [[WP:OLDDS|community discretionary sanctions]] to (community designated) [[WP:CTOP|contentious topics procedure]].
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* The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. ({{Phab|T313405}})
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*An [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management|arbitration case has been opened]] to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".
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* Editors are invited to '''[[Wikipedia:The Core Contest/Entries|sign up]]''' for [[WP:The Core Contest|The Core Contest]], an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve [[Wikipedia:Vital articles|vital]] and other core articles on Wikipedia.
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== Dispute with Taylor Russell page ==

User Bettyboots12368‎ has been deleting relevant edits to the personal life section with no explanation except that “information was not relevant” but it is and is properly cited the edits were not made by me but more senior members of the wiki community. I only reverted the edit once to the revisions users JeffSpaceman and bloopyfloop originally made. User jeffspaceman even got the assistance of an user Spanneraol‎
‎to override Bettyboots12368 deletion. I’m requesting a block on user Bettyboots12368 from editing Taylor Russell’s page and revert back to revision made by user bloopyfloop. 3 different users including myself believe the revision is necessary and relevant despite Bettyboots12368 insistence on deleting the information. [[User:Sharpeye33|Sharpeye33]] ([[User talk:Sharpeye33|talk]]) 04:13, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
*There aren't any "senior" editors on this project. I have no more standing here than you do. See principle #1 on [[User:Hammersoft|my userpage]]. To your points; I'm not interested in debating the issues on the article. The problem I saw was editing warring, and I put a stop to it via protecting the page. Your next course of action here isn't to involve me and convince me or you're right and other disputants are wrong. Your next course of action is to begin a discussion on [[Talk:Taylor Russell|the article's talk page]] and attempt to move forward towards [[WP:CONSENSUS]]. That's how we do things here. See also [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution]]. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 11:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

== Non-free Australian flag files in list articles ==

Hi Hammersoft. Would you mind taking a look at [[:Special:diff/1219014994|this]] and [[:Special:diff/1219014608|this]], and perhaps the other recent additions to [[:List of Australian flags]] and [[:List of proposed Australian flags]]? There is an edit notice at the top of the editing window for "List of Australian flags" regarding the use of non-free files in the article, but the person adding the files might've just overlooked it. FWIW, [[:File:ASeaCadetsFlag.png]] seems to have been discussed at NFCR and [[:Special:diff/654816464|was removed by you]], but a {{tl|Non-free reviewed}} template was never added to the file's page. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 08:55, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
:I removed the files, removed the rationales, added orfud to the waffle flag, and notified the person trying to use them. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 12:44, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for taking a look at this. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 12:59, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

== Extend protection period for taylor russell page ==
Hi Hammersoft would you be able to extend protection period for this page? It will keep being vandalized. Thanks [[User:Bettyboots12368|Bettyboots12368]] ([[User talk:Bettyboots12368|talk]]) 17:05, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
:Per [[WP:PREEMPTIVE]], we don't generally do this unless there is a strong, compelling reason to do so. I've been seriously tempted before, ''knowing'' vandalism was going to happen. For example, for any high profile coaching position there's bound to be all kinds of vandalism as soon as the job opens up. Hopeful, wishful people plug in their favorite candidate to claim they are the new head coach, never providing a source to prove it of course. It's ''going'' to happen. It always happens. Yet, we don't preemptively protect those pages. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 19:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
::Alright, will keep you updated if it does occur again thanks anyway. [[User:Bettyboots12368|Bettyboots12368]] ([[User talk:Bettyboots12368|talk]]) 20:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for the explanation as well. [[User:Bettyboots12368|Bettyboots12368]] ([[User talk:Bettyboots12368|talk]]) 20:38, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | I've owed you one of these for some time now, and today is the day that I send you what I feel that I've owed you for much too long.

''Dang, you beat me to it... '''TWICE NOW''' ''(because I'm writing this to you)! '''Well done.''' I want to thank you for being here for us, volunteering your time, energy, and your diligence to this project. You've been around pretty much as long as I have, and we've interacted many times. We're becoming a rarer and rarer breed; people who have this long of a consistent service to this project. So much has changed over the years that we've been here. From getting [[WP:RBK|rollback]] and [[WP:ACCR|account creator]], to seeing [[WP:RCP|recent changes protection]] level 2 rights to come and disappear.... We're dinosaurs, Hammersoft......

I'm happy that you're still among us. [[User:Oshwah|<b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b>]]<sup><small><b>[[User_talk:Oshwah|<span style="color:blue">(talk)</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oshwah|<span style="color:green">(contribs)</span>]]</b></small></sup> 00:35, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Oshwah}} Thank you :) Very much appreciated! It was sheer luck I saw that, as I hit the log and saw it right on top. I dare say though your admin actions far outstrip mine :) So thank YOU! --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 00:37, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
::I appreciate the kind words. ''"Sheer luck"?'' Nah... You were doing your job, you made the exact decisions that I would've, and by God... I absolutely ''love'' that! :-D [[User:Oshwah|<b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b>]]<sup><small><b>[[User_talk:Oshwah|<span style="color:blue">(talk)</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oshwah|<span style="color:green">(contribs)</span>]]</b></small></sup> 00:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
:::The biggest compliment; somebody does precisely what you would do :) --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 00:47, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

== April thanks ==
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Thank you for improving the project's quality in April! -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:22, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

== Administrators' newsletter – May 2024 ==

[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (April 2024).

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|[[Special:Permalink/1218467362#Handing in my mop|MelanieN]]
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[[File:Green check.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Guideline and policy news'''
* Phase I of the [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review|2024 requests for adminship review]] has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 3b: Make the first two days discussion-only (trial)|creating a discussion-only period]] (3b) and [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 13: Admin elections|administrator elections]] (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 2: Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA|creating a reminder of civility norms]] (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I|full report]].

[[File:Octicons-tools.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Technical news'''
* Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. [[phab:T280531|T280531]]

[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
* The arbitration case ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management|Conflict of interest management]]'' has been closed.

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* This may be a good time to reach out to potential nominees to ask if they would consider an RfA.
* A [[Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Backlog drives/May 2024|'''New Pages Patrol backlog drive''']] is happening in May 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles in the [[Special:NewPagesFeed|new pages feed]]. Currently, there is a backlog of over 15,000 articles awaiting review. [[Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Backlog drives/May 2024/Participants|'''Sign up here to participate!''']]
* Voting for the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C)]] election is open until 9 May 2024. Read the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024#Voting|voting page on Meta-Wiki]] and '''[[m:Special:SecurePoll/vote/396|cast your vote here!]]'''

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== Deletion didn't take? ==

Apparently a bot adding tags to this page at the same time you deleted it made it so that page wasn't deleted. [[Draft:Nicholas Vibes]]. [[User:TornadoLGS|TornadoLGS]] ([[User talk:TornadoLGS|talk]]) 02:43, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
:Wow. Weird. Thanks for the heads up. Deleted. {{ping|Qwerfjkl}} this was your bot that did it. Any ideas what happened here? I deleted it, the bot apparently somehow edit conflicted and recreated it after I deleted it. Thoughts? --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 02:46, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
::Probably the bot retrieved the page data before it was deleted, but saved the edit after it was deleted. I've updated the code to use nocreate so it'll throw an error if the page already exists, instead of creating it.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1714921132116:User_talkFTTCLNHammersoft" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span>]][[User talk:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span>]] 14:58, 5 May 2024 (UTC)</span>
:::Awesome! Thank you! --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 16:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

== A matter I need your assistance with ==

Please look into the current situation on [[User talk:Hateglitter]]. They have said that they have/had at least two other accounts (one they claim they have deleted). They have stated they have edited Wikipedia using the other accounts but have thus far refused to disclose those accounts despite saying that they would. Perhaps it is just a language barrier or a lack of understanding. I am trying to assume good faith. Could you give me your opinion. Tell me if I need to disengage or what the next step is. Sometimes an outside perspective is needed. --[[User:ARoseWolf|<span style="color:#b76e79">'''A'''</span><span style="color:#be4f60">'''Rose'''</span>]][[User talk:ARoseWolf|<span style="color:#b87333">'''Wolf'''</span>]] 14:52, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
:Good to hear from you! It's been a bit. You are correct of course that accounts can not be deleted. They can be renamed per [[Wikipedia:Courtesy vanishing]], which reduces the possibility of discovery but does not eliminate it. As to disclosing other accounts; it is not ''required'' to disclose alternate accounts. See [[WP:SOCKLEGIT]]. To quote, {{tq|"Alternative accounts should always be identified as such on their user pages, unless where doing so would defeat the point of the account."}} Reading over the discussion at [[User talk:Hateglitter]], I would recommend dropping the request to identify alternate accounts unless you have strong reason to believe they are being misused. In that case, it might do to present evidence at [[WP:SPI]]. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 16:24, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you for your objective view, as always. I will leave it where it is. The user has stated they are not using this current account again so if they continue then there may be cause for a SPI. --[[User:ARoseWolf|<span style="color:#b76e79">'''A'''</span><span style="color:#be4f60">'''Rose'''</span>]][[User talk:ARoseWolf|<span style="color:#b87333">'''Wolf'''</span>]] 17:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
:::It has been some time. I received a compliment that I think should be attributed to you, as well, on my [[User:ARoseWolf/Guestbook|guestbook]]. The principles you've shared are being noticed by others and I am so appreciative to you for the time and effort you have given to the encyclopedia and the community. I've thoroughly enjoyed listening to your Song here over the past going on four years, Hammersoft. --[[User:ARoseWolf|<span style="color:#b76e79">'''A'''</span><span style="color:#be4f60">'''Rose'''</span>]][[User talk:ARoseWolf|<span style="color:#b87333">'''Wolf'''</span>]] 17:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
::::I wouldn't attribute it to me. Ok, you posted them on your userpage. But, choosing to embrace something takes on a bit of ownership of it. If you follow the teachings of Gandhi, you are choosing to embrace those teachings. In part, you ''become'' those teachings. It is you. I'm glad you found value in the principles! I wish more people did. The project would be a better place if it were so. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft#top|talk]]) 19:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

== Knock ==

Hello and greetings from all strata.
Before I proceed, is it morning or night where you stay? Answer me quickly or I will go and complain. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:SafariScribe|Safari Scribe]]</span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/SafariScribe|'''''Edits!''''']] [[User talk:SafariScribe|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 21:03, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

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