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Vix Grave interlanguage links

Hello- I undid your revert of my changes to the interlanguage links you introduced. Can you explain why you reverted my edits? Have you familiarized yourself with the {{ill}} template and its usage? Do you find my use of that template inappropriate? Your edit summary "edited links" does not provide any explanation of your reasoning. Eric ^talk 21:58, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, sorry I thought the link didn't go anywhere but I can see that clicking on 'de' or 'fr' leads to the German/French-language pages I originally wanted to link to, because there was no equivalent English-language page. Ario1234 (talk) 22:02, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No prob. That ill template is a nice improvement on the old way of doing those links, because it handles multiple scenarios. Eric ^talk 22:28, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Layout changes

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Re: copper metallurgy. The reference (The rise of metallurgy in Eurasia: Evolution, organisation and consumption of early metal in the Balkans. University College London, Institute of Archaeology. 2010) has a dead link. Also I think the cited text is actually from 2021: https://www.archaeopress.com/Archaeopress/Products/9781803270425. And the reference is placed in the 'Population' section of the text for some reason instead of next to the relevant part of the text about copper metallurgy. I also added another reference, a book from 2020: https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Archaeometallurgy_Materials_Science_Aspe/5LIKEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0 but you deleted this.

So, 1) can I put the relevant references next to the text about copper metallurgy, 2) can I replace the old reference (which has a dead link), 3) can I add new references?

Thanks. Ario1234 (talk) 15:53, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

More sources are always welcome. The reference in the population section seems to be indiscriminate WP:REFBOMBing because the archived version of that page doesn't say anything about settlement size. It might be better to talk about this at Talk:Vinča culture. – Joe (talk) 18:15, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

April 2022

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I changed the photo to a better photo, how is that not constructive? Ario1234 (talk) 23:53, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Indo-European topics collapsible list is one of just a few templates with Misnested tags. I wonder if this can be fixed. —Anomalocaris (talk) 21:58, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how to fix that, sorry. The template seems to work without any problems so it doesn't appear to affect it. Ario1234 (talk) 14:47, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Somogyvár-Vinkovci culture moved to draftspace

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Hi, I made some changes to the draft. Thanks. Ario1234 (talk) 10:59, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry, but why do you think there is a freely-licenced alternative available? What led you to this conclusion? Are you a human or a bot? Ario1234 (talk) 08:53, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nordic Bronze Age

Hi, I was wondering why you are changing the order of the "Preceded by" section of the infobox? Is this not something that should be quite straightforwardly established? Thank you for all the work you do on these articles, it's just a bit unclear what you are doing sometimes. Edit summaries are great. TylerBurden (talk) 17:19, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, my thinking was that the Pitted Ware culture doesn't directly precede the Nordic Bronze Age, rather it ends a few hundred years earlier and merges into the Battle Axe culture. Ario1234 (talk) 17:43, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see, thank you for the explanation, again it would be helpful if you include these reasonings in edit summaries so it's clear what you're doing. TylerBurden (talk) 17:47, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks. Ario1234 (talk) 17:48, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

November 2022

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Silbury Hill, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. you don't seem to have read the source as your edit contradicted it. That wasn't the only error and I fixed the others as well Doug Weller talk 12:11, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The volume of Silbury Hill is given in the main text as 248,000 cubic metres, whilst the pyramid of Menkaure is listed as 235,183 cubic metres. The first reference (Malone 1989) actually gives a volume of 350,000 cubic metres for Silbury Hill. However a more recent (2018) study gives an estimate of 239,133 cubic metres, which is still larger than the given volume of Menkaure. https://historicengland.org.uk/research/results/reports/154-2002

Which other errors did I make? Ario1234 (talk) 19:01, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The other errors weren’t yours. English Heritage says “ compares in height and volume to the roughly contemporary Egyptian pyramids.”. Doug Weller talk 19:29, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Gumelnița–Karanovo culture

You should have explained your blanking. Xx236 (talk) 12:50, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I moved the page to Gumelniţa–Kodžadermen-Karanovo VI complex and gave Gumelniţa culture a separate page. For some reason the links weren't working so I blanked the Gumelniţa-Karanovo page. Now I've put a redirect on the Gumelniţa–Karanovo page, redirecting to Gumelniţa–Kodžadermen-Karanovo VI complex. Ario1234 (talk) 12:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks, I tried to do that following your advice but I'm not sure if it worked. Ario1234 (talk) 18:49, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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"the caption itself is misleading."

How is it misleading? Ario1234 (talk) 19:52, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Ario1234, The caption is misleading because it stated: The Bronze Hand of Prêles, Switzerland, 16th-15th century BC. yet it is not a photo of the Bronze Hand of Prêles; it is a single illustrator's digitally produced illustration of such artifact, and that illustration. (Which BTW, does not represent the object very well at all.) When I first saw it, I thought it might have been a very overly-sharpened, colorized and heavily retouched photo, but on closer examination of the original file and after viewing multiple photos of the object online, I saw that it is one person's version/interpretation of the artifact. It misrepresents what the artifact looks like, and captures none of the three-dimensionality of the object and misrepresents the colors.

If you really think it's needed, you could try sending a request to the museum or institution that owns the artifact to see if they would release a photo of the object (this is sometimes done with artworks) or you could try contacting one of the many photographers that have photographed the object, such as Philippe Joner of the Archaeological Service of the Canton of Bern, Switzerland, or or Guy Jaquenod of the Archaeological Service of Canton Bern, (both of whose names I found in the photo captions of photographs found via a Google image search.) Museums and other non-profit institutions are often quite helpful with providing images to Wikipedia and to Creative Commons. Perhaps someone at the Archaeological Service of Canton of Bern, Switzerland could help with this or with putting you in touch with one of their photographers.

Hope that helps, and happy editing! Netherzone (talk) 20:56, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for all your great work

Lest you get discouraged from classing up so many of the archaeology articles around here for whatever reason 🙄, I for one want to congratulate you on all the improvements you've made. I'd give you a barnstar but I don't really have the time right now. But you probably deserve one. 😁👍 Tewdar 17:48, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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+::Hello Ario1234, The caption is misleading because it stated: {{tq|The Bronze Hand of Prêles, Switzerland, 16th-15th century BC.}} yet it is not a photo of the Bronze Hand of Prêles; it is a single illustrator's digitally produced illustration of such artifact, and that illustration. (Which BTW, does not represent the object very well at all.) When I first saw it, I thought it might have been a very overly-sharpened, colorized and heavily retouched photo, but on closer examination of the original file and after viewing multiple photos of the object online, I saw that it is one person's version/interpretation of the artifact. It misrepresents what the artifact looks like, and captures none of the three-dimensionality of the object and misrepresents the colors.
+::If you really think it's needed, you could try sending a request to the museum or institution that owns the artifact to see if they would release a photo of the object (this is sometimes done with artworks) or you could try contacting one of the many photographers that have photographed the object, such as Philippe Joner of the Archaeological Service of the Canton of Bern, Switzerland, or or Guy Jaquenod of the Archaeological Service of Canton Bern, (both of whose names I found in the photo captions of photographs found via a Google image search.) Museums and other non-profit institutions are often quite helpful with providing images to Wikipedia and to Creative Commons. Perhaps someone at the Archaeological Service of Canton of Bern, Switzerland could help with this or with putting you in touch with one of their photographers.
+::Hope that helps, and happy editing! [[User:Netherzone|Netherzone]] ([[User talk:Netherzone|talk]]) 20:56, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
 == Thanks for all your great work ==