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Requests for permissions

Request permission for Msh210

I have no problem with giving him the EFM bit for viewing the edit filters. Reaper Eternal (talk) 18:23, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
...ping? Reaper Eternal (talk) 14:36, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
msh210, I presume you must be conversant with the AbuseFilter extn and rules format. If so, I have no issues with your being granted the filter access. Wifione ....... Leave a message 06:08, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think he only wants to be able to view the antivandalism filters, not edit them. If he does want to edit them, I'd be concerned based on the filters I saw at English wiktionary. Basically, my position is support giving him EFM for view only, and oppose letting him edit the filters here. (He doesn't seem to know much about regex, hence his request to be able to add some filters to Wiktionary. Correct me if I'm wrong. Reaper Eternal (talk) 12:20, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ditto... Maybe one could give him the right for a temporary period (a fortnight perhaps? and extend it on further request?). Wifione ....... Leave a message 14:20, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. I'll remove it in a fortnight. (Unless he still has need of viewing the filters, of course!) Reaper Eternal (talk) 18:42, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks.—msh210℠ 18:56, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I do know some regex, but am not great at it; my request was both to be able to see optimization (regex, etc.) and ideas of what to filter.—msh210℠ 18:56, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you need help with regex, feel free to ask me on my talk page or on IRC (nickname: kudu). — Kudu ~I/O~ 22:27, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks.—msh210℠ 00:19, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Removing right post msh210's confirmation here. Wifione Message 08:10, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Request permission for Porchcorpter

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

 Not done Competence issues still remain. 28bytes (talk) 01:04, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would like the edit filter flag and help with edit filters whenever I can. I am a bit of a computer programmer, and am experienced with regular expressions. I was somewhat declined the last time "because of my ban" (which is entirely unrelated to the EFM), well now my ban has expired. -Porch corpter (contribs) 20:51, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Question: Does the string bang match the regular expression b(?=a)ng? — Kudu ~I/O~ 22:29, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, while I am pretty much an intermediate. But at the end, since there is one g, yes (it only matches if there is one or no "g"). But "(?=a)" only matches if it is single, but it does not match if is this. I think it does not fully match. I mostly do regex at Java and Javascript. -Porch corpter (contribs) 23:04, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just to clarify, would this match succeed or fail in a program or an edit filter? — Kudu ~I/O~ 23:37, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Request permission for Sole Soul

 Done. 28bytes (talk) 21:49, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I'm a Wikipedian since 2005.

  • I've suggested the idea and provided the code for 2 filters:
  1. Filter 346 (Large non-English contributions) initial version, final version.
  2. Filter 384 (Adding one bad word and nothing else) here.

I've experimented with the Abusefilter feature in a test wiki in the past, and I know very well that mistakes can be easily made, so testing numerously is very important (one trick I use is to set the filter initially to work only in a subpage on my user page). If in doubt, I will discuss changes with more experience users in their talkpages and privately. Thank you. Sole Soul (talk) 03:13, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think he'd do fine with EFM. Reaper Eternal (talk) 13:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Seeing endorsements from two EFMs and no objections after two days, I've added the flag. 28bytes (talk) 21:49, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Request (Adrignola)

As you may be aware, the edit filter is now enabled on all wikis. en.wikibooks admin/'crat/CU here; I was hoping for emailed content (or temporary access) for:

I'm hoping these additional/updated filters will reassure thosewishing they could block unregistered users from editing. – Adrignola talk 02:51, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Adrignola is a bureaucrat, admin, checkuser, editor on enwikibooks, apart from being an editor and a reviewer at en_labswikimedia. Adrignola is also a sysop on outreachwiki and commonswiki. I have no issues on Adrignola being provided the abusefilter right. Wifione Message 17:38, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    In the interest of full disclosure, you can add editor/reviewer to yourself at en_labswikimedia. Outreach added all trusted users to the administrators group, so it's not a whole lot better than my status as automatic administrator assignment on the checkuser wiki (but I guess it should still indicate a level of trust). I suppose since we're discussing my various hats, I'll mention also that I am an OTRS volunteer clearing images and text of copyright issues through confidential emails. Should any access be provided, whether permanent or temporary, I don't plan to do any editing to filters, instead benefiting from the knowledge others have to share through their hard work on the above filters and the extensive testing that Wikipedia provides through its massive amounts of editing. A long time ago after Wikibooks requested the extension, I had asked for email copies of some filters but I had not asked for all of the ones that would have been useful to limit the inconvenience of the request. Since then some have been updated and it would be useful to have the rest and of course private filters here would remain private at Wikibooks. – Adrignola talk 20:42, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    In the interest of moving this along, no objections to this request from me. To keep things tidy perhaps temporary permission would be most appropriate, without prejudice to asking for it again. -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:41, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Request for views

Not meant to be an RfC; that's why titled the section as RfV. Recently, the sysop right was removed from various inactive sysops, with a note that they could have it back in case they wished. Should we (or should we not) take up the same exercise for inactive sysops and other inactive users with respect to their abusefilter-modify/abusefilter-view-private rights? Wifione Message 07:15, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Other discussion

Why wasn't this stopped?

See contributions for User:60.52.43.195 -- this should have been caught by three different filters (17, 58, and 264), and is showing as a hit for each of those filters, yet the edit was allowed. The condition limits don't seem to be a problem right now. Any ideas? Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 14:56, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Same for User:60.52.122.210 - should have been stopped by 17 and 264, shows as a hit, but not stopped. NawlinWiki (talk) 02:19, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Filter 420

Filter 420 may cause many false positives. I think it might be best to just tag the edits, removing the rate limit. — Kudu ~I/O~ 22:43, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Filter 58

Am I being dumb, or is this a bug? Black Kite (t) (c) 23:34, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's a false positive but not a bug. I will send to you by e-mail the part of the edit that matched the filter. Sole Soul (talk) 23:48, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New filters

I recently designed this edit filter who's code is below 

(article_text) 'User:ClueBot NG/Run'
&(removed_lines) rlike "{{TrueItrue|False|false)
! (added_lines) rlike "{{TrueItrue|False|false}})

The filter is designed to run on the page User:ClueBot NG/Run and block vandals from changing the page to something other than "True" and "False." The page is the "switch" for ClueBot NG. While the bot can be blocked if it malfunctions, from this discussion, the users in this discussion seem to draw that if administrators can already block this bot if it malfunctions, than this page is intended for non-admins to turn off the bot in case it malfunctions. If this filter goes into effect, the action taken should be "disallow". 

(article_text) 'User:ClueBot NG/Run'
&(added_lines) rlike "{{False|false}})

This filter should warn editors that they are changing the filter to "false" that they should only turn it off if the bot appears to be malfunctioning.

Now, I do not have access to Edit Filter rights so I have no idea if these codes would work as I cannot access the Batch testing page. Hopefully the people that do, will fix the codes up and test it out and run it live. Thanks. OpenInfoForAll (talk) 00:11, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Wuss-rock"

I requested here the addition of the words "wuss rock" (a degrading way to call pop rock/punk rock/power ballad/soft rock music) because of the long-term abuse of an editor from Columbus, Ohio. The filter worked for months, but now s/he decided to add a "-" between these words. The filter is not working as desired with this little change and now s/he returned with "wuss-rock". I know that as now there have been only two attacks with this, but there are enogh evidence that this user won't cooperate and will continue. If it is possible to add to the filter 384 would be appreciated. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 21:06, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look. 28bytes (talk) 21:08, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like this might have been moved to a different filter. I'll ping the EFMs who've been working on that one. 28bytes (talk) 21:15, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Vandalism filters are generally divided into two categories: 1) filters which combat common types of vandalism, usually committed by pass-by vandals. 2) and filters which combat specific types of vandalism by persistent, tireless vandals.
Filters of the first type have characteristics which allow them to catch most of vandalism, but ironically, these same characteristics allow a persistent vandal to pass them easily. The second type filters are harder to pass and they are changed frequently as vandals adapt to old filters (that's why they are private).
Filter 384 was intended to combat vandalism of the first type. NawlinWiki and MuZemike are maintaining many filters of the second type and I think it is better to ask them to add this word to one of these filters. Sole Soul (talk) 00:02, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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